Fuck the campaign in this is actually so bad in comparison to 2 and 3

I'm enjoying it and I'm getting all the achievements! Hope that makes one of you faggots mad.

>>517518306You weren't alive when it came out.

>>5175199612 ended with the Arbiter fighting Tartarus, leader of the Brutes.

>>517521071Thanks for the blogpost

>>517521295The OP is literally a blogpost.>I don't like thing!

>>517520268Frail white hipster hands with painted fingernails typed this post.

>>517521548It incites discussion though. Yours was just ‘look at meeeee I’m getting all the achievements hehe!!’, you little rapist

>>517521675They have a buzzed neckbeard too and wide rimmed glasses.

>>517518306The weapons were never as satisfying to use after CE, and havok gave the sequels less personality.

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>>517521782>It incites discussion thoughThat's as many as forty keks

>>517518306Ok

>>517518306IIRC the campaign was made in only a couple of months because of pressure from Microsoft or something - hence why a lot of the maps in the second half feel rushed and really repetitive.

>>517521071I'm glad you're enjoying this masterpiece bro. CE is good for achievement hunters since it's so well balanced.

>>517520865halo 2 has a horrible campaign compared to ce. i think in an effort to satisfy people who complained about backtracking bungie made a different game altogether. halo 2 feels very linear compared to ce. very long tunnels to drive your warthog through. the most disappointing seuel of all time. maybe mgs2 beats it. halo 3 felt like an unfocused clusterfuck but things got back on track with reach, only for 343 to fucks things up again with 4 and five.

>>517524452*sequel

Halo campaigns are good until you fight the flood. Fuck those parasitic niggers.

>>517524452Reach is the worst campaign in the series to the point it's not even worth ranking but none of Halo's spin-offs are good.

>campaign3 > CE > 2 > 4 > 5

>>517524893Quarantine Zone is my favorite level in 2 though. I love how they can drive vehicles in 2 and the series peaks whenever there's three factions fighting each other in an outdoors area.

Faggot 343 guilty spark, assault on the control room and Keyes are some of the best missions

>>517520268Then you've outed yourself as to not having played many games, you insufferable bitch.

>>517524893I just wish they felt better to shoot desu.With Covenant soldiers, there's this real weight to them that you can feel when you dome them, and the Flood just kinda lack that.

>>5175252262 ruined the Flood by giving them all head hitboxes

>>517518306>CEFirst half fantastic. Flood are fucking terrible in this game and ruin the second half except for two betrayals and the warthog run on the maw. >2better Covenant levels on the whole but nothing quite reaches the height of Silent Cartographer. Flood don't come in infinite fucking swarms so they're much more bearable this time round>3Feels like a wrap up to 2. Still genuinely great, some of the best movement and weapon balance in the franchise and the flood are kind of fun this time. I wish it was longer and the Arbiter had more lines.

>>517525226>Quarantine Zonebased Quarantine Zone chad. Never understood why people don't like this level. It's the most epic shit and you have Steve Vai playing in it.

Flood are the most fun to fight in CE just because of how godly the flood and covenant battles are, and because the game gives you the greatest shotgun ever in an fps.

>>517525043Why do people hate reach again? It has a bunch of semi-open levels, the Covenant enemy roster is large and there's no flood.

>>517526972Probably people still suffering from some sort of DMR PTSD that they got from Reach's multiplayer.

The series needed more levels like Halo and The Silent Cartographer that gave you huge areas to work through in whatever order you wanted.>>517526972I don't think the levels are particularly well paced or structured - several missions have long dull stretches and the only part where I felt any attachment to the campaign's narrative was in delivering the slipspace drive.

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>>517526972It's multiplayer was shit, but the campaign was great. From a gameplay perspective it really felt like a sequel to CE.

>>517526972>Why do people hateI'm not answering this question.

>>517526458343 Guilty Spark is one of the best levels in the series.

1>3>2

>>517527164>>517527314To be fair I played some multiplayer a couple days ago and the sheer dominance of the DMR was pretty crazy. I still love the gun, but it really shouldn't be the standard starting weapon. >>517527275The ending struck a chord with me, but I admit the character building wasn't prominent enough for me to feel too bad about any of the characters dying (Except for that ending. Fuck)

Floods were a fucking mistake. Absolutely no fun whatsoever to fight against, especially when you have the Covenants in the very same game that are 11/10 fun to fight against

>>517521271on top of a 3 layer cake.

>>517528441The final "Objective: Survive" mission was great but the last few missions prior to that really lacked any real sense of urgency or weight for me. And the combat situations were fairly dull.That said I just took a Ghost the entire way through The Package a few days ago and that made it pretty entertaining.

>>517518306and?

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>>517519961Having just recently played Halo 3 for the first time in years its largely a great campaign. The Storm, The Ark and The Covenant are some of the best missions in the entire series.

>>517529223This. Played through for the first time yesterday. Good combat arenas all around. I wish it had more variation in environments though, plus brutes weren't as fun to me as elites.

>>5175244522 is the best campaign out of the 3 real halo's and it's not even close

sada

>>5175303582 was the worst campaign out of the three.

>>517531885best levels to explore and fight inleast amount of vehicle sectionsonly one that offers a decent challenge to complete on legendarysleekest character/enemy/vehicle designspretty much the best in every way except maybe weapon variety, which is to be expected as a series progressesyeah, 2 is definitely the best

>>517533273>Halo 2>best levels to exploreuhhh

The melee attack in 3 seems a lot stronger than in the previous two campaigns.

>>517533273>best levels to explore and fight inlinear as fuck with too many defend your position sections>least amount of vehicle sections>not liking Halo vehicles>only one that offers a decent challenge to complete on legendaryLegendary is literally broken>sleekest character/enemy/vehicle designsDoesn't save the campaign>pretty much the best in every way except maybe weapon variety, which is to be expected as a series progressesWorst weapon sandbox in the trilogy, terrible campaign, nope2's the worst in the trilogy.

>>517533657>linear as fuckAre you really going to tell me the other games aren't? And all of halo 2's levels have ways to exploit them that allow you to approach the level differently. For instance, in the city section with the sniper jackals, you can grenade jump to the top of the buildings and drop down behind the jackals to assassinate them. Maybe the developers didn't intend it to be that way, but unintentional greatness is still greatness.>literally brokenMe and my 13 year old friends would go through the game collecting skulls in order on legendary. Surely you're not so shit on your mouse and keyboard to be able to do the same.>worst weapon sandboxHow can you possibly say there's a worse selection than CE? You're just factually wrong on this, it's not even a matter of opinion.

>>517534607>Are you really going to tell me the other games aren't?Halo and The Silent Cartographer both come to mind. Halo 2 is extremely linear in comparison to CE's level design.

>>517534883This

It's not really bad, in fact it's pretty good, you just have bad taste and your a cocksucker

>Having to go across a bridge full of flood while two banshees hound you the entire timeThat one section is worse than 99% of the game

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>>517537512Is the remaining 1% that part in Truth and Reconciliation before you board the ship?

>>517518306Not as boring as Reach. You really need co-op to actually enjoy it.

>>517538165>Not as boring as Reachok

Should I play in release order or start with ODST?

>>517538498Release order, starting with ODST is awful. If you really want to I guess you could play ODST before 3.

>>517534607CE might have had a smaller selection of weapons, but they're more unique and situationally useful than the weapons in the sequels, which basically boiled down to the battle rifle being the only weapon required, even against the flood. CE's weapon balance also wasn't beholden to the multiplayer, so you had a useful shotgun and assault rifle.

>>517533347it's got the most visual variety and with the most interesting locations in the series.

>>517539043cant you just not rely on the BR though? That's what I did and the game was more fun for it.

>>517526972I hated the semi-open levels that all looked the same.

>>517539153>Pillar of Autumn rehash>two earth city levels>two mining facility levels>two delta halo grassland temple levels>two forerunner ice levels>two high charity levels>two coastal forerunner facility levels

>>517518306so how do I find games of CE? able to find halo 3 mp no problem but I'm never able to find games for the others

>>517539312Of course, but the fact that there's no real reason to not is a note worthy issue.

>>517533657>>517534883Hahahaha shut the fuck retard. Halo CE has literally the worst level design of all time. Playing through Truth and Reconciliation, Assault on the Control room, 343 Guilty Spark, The Library, Two Betrayals and Keyes is so fucking bad I want to actually fist fight you for saying it's anything but cancer dogshit. Holy fuck you nostalgia retard, play the game again, it's fucking LITERALLY the game most famous of ALL TIME for having almost unbearably bad levels. You fucking cunt, there's two decent levels in CE, and that's Halo and Silent Cartographer. How fucking dare you imply walking for literally 55 minutes through identical hallways is better than anything. I'm serious, I'll fucking stomp your face into a curb for implying CE is good.

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>>517539547I don't think you can read. What I posted was:>Halo and The Silent Cartographer both come to mind. Halo 2 is extremely linear in comparison to CE's level design.And my statement is entirely correct.

>>517539547>343 Guilty Spark>Two Betrayals>badCongratulations on winning "Worst opinion on 4chan", 7/18/2020 edition.

>>517539547>insults>2fagChecks out

>>517539043>CE might have had a smaller selection of weapons, but they're more unique and situationally useful than the weapons in the sequels, which basically boiled down to the battle rifle being the only weapon required,Nope. Battle Rifle, plasma pistol, plasma rifle, smg, needle, carbine, shotgun, sniper, rocket launcher, fuel rod cannon, brute plasma rifle, beam rifle are all extremely useful and have saved my ass on legendary countless times.

>>517539717Two Betrayals is the most consistently quoted as being the second worst level in the game.

>>517539490people seem to only play 4v4 slayer or fiestai find matches in less than a minutei just want to play 2v2 and i've never found a match, even when cea launched

>>517518306I'll take shit that isn't true for 100.

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>>517539972By who, retards who drink paint?

>>517540092People who are fucking sick of replaying the same level twice, backwards.

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>>517540220Even though Two Betrayals is the first time that happens in CE and its superior to the original level, okay retard.

>>517540319Sorry bitch, my favorite game in the series isn't considered as having the worst level design of any major release ever.

>>517539793Several of those weapons are functionally extremely close to each other, and most of them were also in CE in either a more unique or useful variation. Beyond that, the br/carbine is almost always your best bet, power weapons excluded. That's my whole point.

>>517540475So your favorite Halo game definitely isn't 2.

>boring predictable story>must collect muh 8 badges and beat muh 4 leaders >tedious gameplay, basically grinding to death>outdated graphics for its timeWhat's the appeal of Pokemon? Playing it makes me contemplate suicide.

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>>517540573Oh, I'm talking to a zoomer. Please warn people before you spout lies. Halo CE is literally infamous as having the worst level design of any major release, Halo 2 is not. Your personal opinion on this matter means nothing.

>>517540897Anon I'm 30 years old. You should be embarrassed to be resorting to such buzzwords.

>>517540897If we're talking legacies, 2 is well know for being incomplete, rather than rushed to completion like CE. Not really sure that's any better.

1. Halo 22. Halo Reach3. Halo 3[MASSIVE POWER GAP]4. Halo 1

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>>517541248Reachfags are weird

>>517521071k...keep me posted

>>517541295how so

>>517541362Its such a dull fucking campaign.

>>517541197Who gives a fuck about what isn't in the game, retard? We're talking about what's on the fucking disc.

>>517518306I'm going through all the Halo campaigns in MCC since I've played Halo my whole life without ever actually finishing any of the campaigns.Normal was pretty easy on CE so I bumped it to Heroic on the rest of the way through, and I'm getting ready to blow my fucking brains out. I'm on Keyes now but the moment the Flood were introduced the game just wasn't fucking fun anymore.It has been nothing but a brutal fucking slog where something will just happen and I'll be dead and I'll redo the same fight 15 times over.In the room where you find the captain after the flood rush you open up the door on the left wall and the covenant rush the room and on 3 separate occasions I've opened the door and had a grunt immediately sticky me with a plasma grenade the moment they saw me.Or how about the fact that the game keeps dropping sniper rifles for you to fight the flood with and they literally don't do anything. I scoped in and shot an infected elite with 3 full mags and the spurt blood but don't flinch or die.Not to mention infected shotgunners who just rush and even though the shotgun is pointed at the ground they still laser shot you with it, or the infected rocket launchers, or the fact that the rocket launcher has a fucking cool down in between shots, that has killed me so many fucking times. Really, I've played the first 2 hours of this game on loop my entire life but after finishing it I doubt I'm ever going to come back to H:CE's campaign. I just don't think I can stomach it anymore.

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>>517526972The group drop like flies way before you can get any attachment to them while the game tries over and over again to make their deaths look like a big dealIt is also stupid short, if I paid 60 bucks when this came out I would be pissed

>>517542441>Or how about the fact that the game keeps dropping sniper rifles for you to fight the flood withThat happens literally once and its in a section with both Flood and Covenant.

>>517542441It's fucking magically awful. Any time I see somebody claim CE has the best campaign I get legitimately furious.

>>517542441To be fair any difficulty higher than normal turns any of the campaigns into the videogame equivalent of unwarranted CBT.

Halo CE's campaign peaked during 343 guilty spark and immediately devolved into boring bullshit again. 2 was better but only because of the Arbiter

I love the giant AA gun in The Storm.I like how there's a delay between when it fires and when you hear it firing, really sells how big it is, and taking down a scarab is fun.Anyone know if Pan Cam works on the pc version

>>517542441>Heroic>KeyesJesus christ I beat that shit on legendary at 14 and had the time of my fucking life. The problem is you haven't sat down and thought critically about your weapons and what they can do. I mean if you can't handle CE on Heroic I shutter to think how you'd handle other fps games from the late 90's.

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>>517542441Heroic in CE isnt that bad you honestly sound like you suck but i agree the campaign isnt as good as everyone thinks it is.

>>517542817sad cuz bad.

>>517541814How is the absence of an ending not relavent? It's what H2's campaign will forever be remembered for. I'm being baited, aren't I?

>wanna play halo ce on mcc>know about the bugs with the bump mapping and transparent textures>autism keeps me from enjoying itI wish they could have gotten it right, fuck gearbox

>>517543149Every single level with a scarab in Halo 3 is 10/10

>>517540563And your point misses that you likely will run out of ammo for those weapons, so you have to choose from a host of other weapons to use that aren't as good. CE's weapons really aren't any more distinct than 2's other than the pistol being the proto battle rifle. There will always be a hierarchy of weapons, and each one of them are viable in the halo games, so the category of weapon variety simply goes to the one with the most weapons.

>>517542441imagine not being able to beat the campaign on devs normal difficulty. instead of console easy mode. get good

Halo is quickly becoming one of the worst fanbases on Holla Forums. You guys are right next to KH fags and Smash fags.

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>>517543313Braindead. We're talking about the quality of the gameplay and you butt in with how the story is finished in the third game. If you don't have down syndrome I'd be amazed.

>>517543460youtu.be/KShMpOrXhOs

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>>517543283It's piss easy bro. I vastly prefer Halo 2 on Legendary which is twenty times as hard. What I don't like is walking through the actual copy and pasted hallways and same level in reverse for four hours.

>>517543313Who the fuck cares about Halo 2's ending? What a total meme complaint.

>>517543313halo 2 and halo 1's ending essentially did the same thing, which was tease a sequel.

>>517518306A buddy and I are slowly going through it on LASO. We got filtered hard by the third mission but we plan on attempting it again

>>517543486We both know damn well it's entirely possible to run through the large majority of the campaign with a br or carbine in your hand. And the flood are vulnerable to weapons very differently than the covenant in CE which necessitates not just running through the whole game with a pistol in your hand, for instance. There's also the stun lock plasma weapons and far more effective shotgun and assault rifle. I just don't see it being a slam dunk for H2 based on having more weapons.

>>517522175>CE weapons satisfying by any stretch of the imaginationWhat the actual fuck did he mean by this

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>>517544439So your complaint is that you can get through the game with one weapon? I see your point but CE shares a very similar problem but doesn't have the variety of weapon options Halo 2 does. Every covenant weapon is now 1.5 times as powerful as in the original due to dual wielding.

>>517543735This is why I love 343, I divorced the series at 2.>>517543938>20 times as hard means it's good!No, inflated enemy health and deflated character health does not equate good. People have said it to death, hell bungie admitted to it during halo 3 development that 2 was a rush job and it was bad. There was less animations and rigging going on with the enemies and thus they were very one note and designed poorly. Meanwhile Reach which has a helluva animation and rigging pool can do so much more with its AI. It's the same reason why FEAR AI is so good, it's all about how many animations that the AI can string together.Halo 2 is fucking bad and everyone knows it, the only ones who won't give that shit up are the people who had their cherry popped on halo 2 and not games like Tribes back in the 90s.

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>>517544439>We both know damn well it's entirely possible to run through the large majority of the campaign with a br or carbine in your handNo, you can't, not on legendary and especially not with the famine skull or thunderstorm skull on. The difficulty of 2 requires you to use a variety of weapons.

>>517521271*Chieftain of the Brutes

>>517544663>Play original CE for 18 years >Alqays hated the assault rifle, never found it satisfying, couldn't get hardly any kills with it >Play the MCC version of CE, assault rifle is exactly the same, only the graphics are different >Suddenly I can get kills with it and find it satisfying What the FUCK. It was just an visual/audio change.

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>The room with all the invisible swordfags gangraping you What the actual fuck were they thinking?

>>517544967But Tribes is fucking cringe.

>>517544663Plasma stunMassive grenades + damagePlasma rifle headshotAnti-Material rifle multiple penetrationsAR more damage against light armorHigh dps Plasma PistolBest shotgun, good rangeMost of the weapons had a tremendous amount of damage in general. The amount of AOE damage from the needler was outrageous.

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>>517539401I think there's more variety in just one room of Cairo station than the entirety of the pillar of autumn's monochromatic gray hallways. You can even space walk all around the station if you wanted too.

>>517545105No it never was, you were just young and didn't figure it out. Now here is a grand old idea, try shooting it at ghosts and banshees. kill in 3 magazines or your money back.

>>517544967>No, inflated enemy health and deflated character health does not equate goodActually it does. I play Halo 2 the same way I play Castlevania or Ghosts and Goblins or Battletoads. The challenge demands perfection and level memorization, enemy placement memorization, weapon spawns, and I fucking love it to death. It's my favorite game of all time. I understand it's totally subjective but I highly recommend playing through Halo 2 on Legendary at least once.

>>517545429>Japanese skinner box memorization difficulty is goodNo,

>play Halo 3 multiplayer for the first time in 10 years>FFA involves you spawning behind someone and killing them, then dying to someone who spawned right behind you, then them dying to someone who spawned right behind them, etc.I remember this being more fun when I was a teenager

>>517545420>No it never was, you were just young and didn't figure it outObviously part of it, but when I change the graphics to classic I start doing shitty again. The different graphics change my playstyle and it exposes a subconscious reptilian retard part of my brain I didn't want to know existed.

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>>517545429>lumping in Castlevania with that shitew

>>517518306Of all the Bungie Halos CE is my least favorite but it’s still a great game.

>>517545606Congrats, you finally grew up and realized that Halo 3 multiplayer sucks eggs.

Wow so many shit opinions in this thread.

>>517518306The game has both aged horribly and great at the same time.>AI is dumb as fuck but they're often able to exploit the broken mechanics of the game. It's kind of like Bungie modeled the AI after shitposters.>So much of the levels are just copy and pasted. Game got so monotonous I almost got nauseous. Still, some of the level design at the beginning half is cool to this day.>There's way too much enemy spam.

All the ragdolling makes it bearable

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>>517545958>Halo CE>>AI is dumbwhose actually gonna read past this point?

>>517542441Nine year old me could beat this game on Legendary, git gud faggot

>>517545746I bet you prefer Castlevania IV over 1 and 3, faggot. Don't ever speak to me again unless it's an intelligent point.

>>517545854Stfu cringelord your mom sucks eggs

>>517546069I can't tell you how many times grunts killed themselves with grenades in all my playthroughs.

>>517546115The insecurity is off the charts.

>>517518306

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Is this a troll thread? Halo CE has the best campaign.Halo II had the best multiplayer because of xboxlive and good maps.HALO II campain sucks ass.everything II after sucks ass.end of story.

>>517546731>Halo CE has the best campaign.What a fucking amazing shitpost

>NOOOOOO ONLY THIS CAMPAIGN WAS GOOD THE REST WERE SHITWhy are you people like this?

>>517546813Have you beat it in legendary or are you just talking out of your little tight ass?

>>517546731>Halo CE has the best campaign

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>>517546928I have, it was still a mediocre campaign

>>517529223True, I feel that The storm and floodgate should have been one mission though. Floodgate is literally walk backwards through factory, go outside, jump down into broken shit, and walk to grab Cortana's Princess Leia tape. Stupid short.

>>517518306tried playing this again and is it just me or is the sound fucked in CE, everything just sounds so flat.

>>517520268God imagine being this fucking sad.

>>517545318The little spin that spartans did when they got headshotted was great.

Yes, I fornicate with aliens, how could you tell?

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>>517518306I loved the first level until you go outside and it's just a giant green squares, then a guy came bashing on the door claiming it was is xbox so we had to give it back.

>>517518306Great

>>517543187Its still the best.2 is a boring slog by comparison with shit tier enemies and guns

>>517548670Besides broken difficulty 2 is better in every department. From story to level design.

I think we can all agree

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>>517546929>best gund and aiYeah its the best faggot.Fuck the gay ass arbiter story and walking simulator levels in 2

>>517548939Hahaha nope retard.Weapon balance in 2 is nonexistamt and everything feels weak as fuck

>>517518306No, it is the best campaign in the series. It is okay to be retarded though.

>>5175489432fag uses reddit format.Checks out

>>517548943halo 2 should be muscular but still in a wheelchair ngl

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>>517520865>H2 is one of the biggest improvements of any FPS sequel, in large part because its campaign isn't dogshit.lol Halo 2 is the absolute worst Halo campaign, even worse than Reach.

>>517518306Retards just like playing through the same copy pasted corridors ad nauseam for some reason. Halo CE had 3 good levels max. Everything else was forgettable schlock

m.youtube.com/watch?v=ocyYwLCDyCUIf you liked 2 you were most likely shit at halo

>>517549706Copypastef corridors still managed to be better than 2

Pillar of Autumn - Boring introductory level choked with Aliens references.Halo - Time consuming wait for waves of dropships, drive around a bit and rescue some troops. Not too interesting.Truth and Reconciliation - Starts off well enough but then you get to the actual ship and the fun stops. The Silent Cartographer - Also starts quite well and then you find out you'll have to trek around to open a locked door. All the interior sections are dull.Assault on the Control Room - Completely overstays its welcome. You pass through so many similar looking interiors that it starts blending together. The outdoor vehicle fighting sections are a joke.343 Guilty Spark - A decent level to introduce a new series of enemies even if it is a bit cutscene heavy.The Library - Will forever be known as the best worst level in FPS history for its four identical looking floors of fun. I mean even the developers thought it was a joke when they made it.Two Betrayals - Reverse Assault on the Control Room. By this point you're over it.Keyes - Reverse Truth and Reconciliation. Can at least give it some points for those segments under the ship.The Maw - Reverse Pillar of Autumn. The final "boss" is insanely bad.

>>517549996Tldr faggot

>>517549996The Maw barely has anything in common with the first level.

>>517518306Yes.>>517518382Only for grinding those shitty season points. Halo 1 matches as so fucking broken that you can get like 20 kills without even trying and matches last 5 minutes tops

>>517549996>Halo - Time consuming wait for waves of dropships, drive around a bit and rescue some troops. Not too interesting.>The Maw - Reverse Pillar of Autumn. The final "boss" is insanely bad.Hands that weren't alive when Halo launched typed this postAlso at this point calling The Library the worst FPS level of all time is a meme complaint akin to calling the Water Temple the worst Zelda dungeon.

>>517549735Halo: Now with magnetism

>>517518306I loved halo CE, 2, 3, ODST and thought reach was ok but not as good as 3. Halo 4 was dogshit, so was halo 5. halo infinite who knows

>>517550235It's no more "broken" than any other Halo game. It's just faster.

>h2Dude lets spawn 20 waves of enemies while locking you in place.Dude lets spawn more waves of enemies on a moving platform.Dude lets spawn more waves of enemies while you try to kill an invulnerable bullet sponge.

>>517518306Filtered

>>517518306I know it's likely due to nostalgia but I love it. The backtracking sucks for sure but I find 2's to be underwhelming and pretty forgettable, personally. 3's is quality, that's probably the best overall game in terms of campaign and multiplayer balance.

>>5175208652 sucks, only underage memers jerking off over le arbiter like that shit.

>>517518306The flood was really lame to fight compared to the covenant

>>517550249>Hands that weren't alive when Halo launched typed this postI was playing Doom's shareware version in 1994 but okay.

>>517550643This

>>517542441I know which room you're talking about and you're bad. Back off the platform and unload any grenades you have at the covis. The flood come in through two doors straight ahead but they'll mostly focus on the convenient if you're hanging back. The flood does most of the work for you in that encounter all you have to go is be smart enough to realize it and chill out. But if you think Halo CE gave you nothing to fight the flood with enjoy the last third of Halo 2 where you get nothing but pop guns to take down the brutes. The only thing you'll have that drops them is a full needler clip which runs out all the time or maybe a carbine for an encounter and a half if you get lucky.

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>>517550903So did you just take to drinking bleach or what

It was good when released 20 years ago. No reason to play it today, however. Some of those flood levels where awful.

>retards actually think halo 1 had a good campaign let alone the best in the seriesjesus christ I wish Holla Forums had the taste it did when it rightfully shat on this game for its boring fucking campaign. it wasnt good in the first place but it went to absolute shit after 343 guilty spark which was the peak of the game. the campaign in this was never anywhere close to good you faggots stop pretending it was or is.

>>517542441Literally hide under the gravemind platform retard after opening the doors.I could figure this out as a 7 year old

>>517551027Just playing better shooters than Halo. The Library is honestly one of the worst levels I've seen in a AAA shooter. The whole fucking level is almost a parody of itself. I mean one of the segments is called "But I don't wanna ride the elevator." The developers had run out of ideas and just decided to make a filler level that was basically a joke.

Between Normal and Heroic, which is the intended way to play Halo campaigns?

>>517551109This revisionist cope hahaha

How do you faggots play Halo 3 multiplayer with the BR? It's literally worse than the AR. My shots never register half the time and I'm better off using the AR or finding the closest power weapon because of how bullshit magnetism is for controllers

>>517551264>The Library is honestly one of the worst levels I've seen in a AAA shooter.So you have next to no experience in the genre.Just a heads up: Haze was a AAA shooter. Brink was a AAA shooter.

>>517551264Imagine raging at and getting filtered by a 20 yo console port

sprint killed halo.

>>517551109The campaign was fine when it released, it has aged like fetid shit.

>>517551595So has your taste

I just now beat Halo: CE on Heroic.Fuck all the shitposters in this thread, Halo: CE is a great game that shits the bed after the first third.I don't care that you whacked your head against the wall until you were able to beat it on legendary when you were 7, it is just not good.The long repetitive levels start as a drag and become a total fucking shitfest after the flood are introduced. It has good weapons, it has good mechanics, it has good music, visuals, and it's fun to play but the level design after the first 3 levels ruins the rest of the game. You have the skin of a great game filled with 60 percent of fluff.Fuck you, fuck your nostalgia, and fuck this thread.

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>>517521271And it was a really mediocre fight, like all the boss fights in Halo 2 (besides the scarab, which was more of a group of enemies than a boss). They could have at least done more with the moving platforms and enemy reinforcements, or given him ranged gravity attacks like the ones he uses in the cutscenes. Honestly Halo just doesn't lend itself to boss fights very well. Maybe that's why Halo 3 dropped them and Halo 4 went the cinematic CoD QTE route.

>>517551310Heroic.

>>517552225Two betrayals is literally the greatest halo level created.

>>517518306This is like saying the Hobbit movies are better than the LOTR movies

It's actually significantly better than 2 and 3's campaign.

>>517551327face it faggot after 343 you spend the majority of your time walking through and around bland drab corridors making the flood completely lose its appeal. and what came before 343 wasnt hot shit either being able to ride around in jeeps doesnt make your boring slog of a campaign good. which is the sole reason people don't shit on those levels too.

>>517552280Why?

>>517552491People only like h2s campaign for the hd cinematics.Before the mcc it was universally considered shit newfag

>>517552946This and even with those cinematics they still look like shit because Blur's cutscenes are worst than the originals.

>>517552946>Before the mcc it was universally considered shit newfagliterally writing your own version of history you giant faggot

>>517553997Not my fault you were too young to use the internet back then

>>517526972The brooding atmosphere tried too hard to make me care about what was going on. I felt worse for Echo-419's death in Halo CE than I did for any of the boring call of duty men I was supposed to care about in Reach besides Jorge. That, and a lack of distinctive levels/encounters. Every level is the same mountainous highlands.

Went back and played all the campaigns3 > 1 > 2 > liquid shit > reach

>>517552946nigger the shit fits that were thrown about that campaign were almost entirely about the ending and having to play as the arbiter. and people eventually came to praise the arbiter's side of the story. those 2 things arent in the same magnitude as the flaws plaguing 1 which were actually detrimental.

>>517528448They should have gone full Dead Space with flood, have them converge into big shapeshifting blobs of biomass that need to be whittled down piece by piece. Space zombies that drive cars aren't that interesting.

>>517518306Whenever you feel down in your life just remember there are depressed irl losers who's entire existence is predicated on 'winning' fights on an anonymous image board at whatever cost neccesary over new and 20 year old games alike.

>>517551109>best atmosphere>slow introduction of the Flood does suspense and horror better than most suspense and horror games>top tier voice acting and writing, much better than latter games>great level design as far as games of that era were concerned, especially when you factor in open areas with a plethora of vehicles to fight with which was rare for a shooter at the time>the fucking MawI'll give you the backtracking sucks late-game but only a zoomer faggot who compares 1 to games released yesterday would hate on it.>it went to absolute shit after 343 guilty spark which was the peak of the game>he didn't like being in the middle of Flood vs. Covenant fightsPussy.

>>5175546162 recycles shit in different ways as seen here.>>517550383

>>517554616>nigger the shit fits that were thrown about that campaign were almost entirely about the ending and having to play as the arbiterNot really. It's just plain old forgettable and was clearly rushed, like most things about Halo 2. It's just such a milquetoast, watered down campaign. It might not have 1's lows but it definitely doesn't hit its highs, either.

>>517554294Everybody I knew liked halo 2 more than 1. The boy's & girls club I went to had xboxes set up in the game room with both halo's, and everybody would always play 2. You're right that I never bothered talking to faggots on forums with my dial-up internet, but of the tens of people I knew that played halo, they all preferred to play 2.

>>517539401The levels were fucking massive though. If you can steal a banshee you can fly around almost the entire earth city. Nothing to do with the actual gameplay of course, but really fun if you're into exploring levels and accessing secret areas.

Halo 2 easily has the best campaign. it simply filters out anybody who sucks.

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>>517529223>The Storm, The Ark and The Covenant are some of the best missions in the entire series.Agreed 1000000%

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>>517553997>Master Chief? You mind telling me what you're doing on that ship? SIRSETTING UP A POINTLESS CLIFFHANGER

It helps if you use only certain weapons on Legendary. Magnum, plasma pistol, plasma rifle (though it should be switched for a pistol if one is found), shotgun, sniper rifle (only good against covies), and the rocket launcher. This for CE. BR, Carbine, sniper, rocket, brute shot (the blade is great for smashing flood), sword (mostly used on flood or certain conditions. Never attack someone if they have a melee weapon.) For Halo 2. I haven't played Halo 3 in awhile but my best guess is br, carbine, sniper, rocket, sword/hammer, shotgun.

>>517555221Because h2 is babies first online experience.No one liked the campaign

>>517529223I even like Cortana despite all the shit that level gets. It's the hardest level and the layout can be a bit confusing, but in a good way as opposed to CE where everything just looks exactly the same and has all those shitty symmetrical rooms. The worst part is the Cortana/Gravemind interrupts that happen like 8 times in that mission.

>>517555627Precision Weapons that can headshot from range will always be A tier. One shot weapons like Sniper Rifle, Beam Rifle, Rockets, Fuel Rod and Spartan Lazer are S tier. Overall the weapon variety from halo 1 to 2 takes a massive swing in a positive direction.

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Does mcc have online coop for randoms? I dont have friends

>>517555881Why are there so many parts in Halo 3 where you slow down as Cortana or Gravemind talk to you? Are they loading screens? Who would think that wouldn't get annoying fast?

>>517555881Cortana is not that hard especially if you know how to time your invisibility. Gravemind from Halo 2 will and always will be the most ridiculous halo mission on Legendary of all time, of course this halo 2 but it's still yet to be dethroned.

>>517554831>The Maw Not the guy you replied to, but returning to the POA where it all started would have been so fucking good if it was the ONLY instance of backtracking in the whole game. The emotional impact was diminished by the fact that we already returned everywhere else. Returning to levels can be great if it's not overused. Halo 3's return to Halo 1's Control Room blew my fucking mind as a kid.

>>517555881Crows nest is almost entirely copy pasted and has back tracking but no one spergs.Is the 360fag nostalgia just too strong?

>>517556324>Halo is a game that takes place on a ringworld.>the last three levels return (in reverse order) to locales that were from earlier in your journeyI think people just fail to see the poetic brilliance of CE's campaign.

>>517556427The most praised mission from 3fags, The Covenant, literally has you completing 2 identical towers to progress.

>>517556427the first 2 chapters of literally all the halo games are straight trash

>>517556324I do get what you're saying but at least the final driving part of the Maw is new. Before that is a retread, though, yeah.

>>517556003>I dont have friendsYou do now >>>/vg/299879209

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>>5175183061 repeats levels, 2 has firefight for ages almost every level, so clearly 3 has the best campaign

>>517518306>so bad in comparison to 2 and 3Implying 2 doesnt suck

H2>H3 Multiplayer>H1>H3 Campaign=Reach Objective and final list. No exceptions, no complaining, no disagreeing, no condescending. Accept the truth and learn from it rather than shying away.

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>>517520268God, what a whiny little bitch you are.

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>>517555987>All weapons should be lasersYou're the reason 5 is the way it is

>>517538498CE < 2 < 3 < ODST < Reach

>>517556558Sierra 117 and ONI Sword Base are great though

>>517548943Reach is just as bad as Halo 4. ODST is the end of the series.

>>517556558>talking shit about Halonigger you are out of your goddamn mind.

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>>517556558Floodgate is the previous level but in reverse but im hearing nothing about how the entirety of h3 is ruined because of it.

>>517556748Brute Shot is good. Needler is also good on legendary for a hard ping. I just prefer getting headphones since they are more consistent.

>>517556913Does it last Six hours Faggot?

>>517556642Halo 3's campaign is way better than Reach. You don't even take down any scarabs in Reach. That fuckboy Carter cucks you out of fighting one.

>>517556913It's also one of the easiest levels in the series.

>>517518306easily better than 2s campaign, dunno what you're smoking

>>517541248Halo 3 > Halo 2 objectively in every way, metric, and standard.

>>517556981Is the Library not one of the shortest missions in CE for you? Lmao how bad are you?

>>517557089Sorry, Halo 3 is way too easy to have any replayability.

>>517556902Halo is absolutely fucking horribleRun around aimlessly in this warthog until you get to a clearing where carriers slowly come down until the game decides you can advance, then repeat

>>517556981H3 is a 9 level game with 1 entirely recycled level.Ce had 10 levels but 2 recycled ones.It evens out faggot, but you still only moan about CE.

>>517556587So that's a no then

>>517556254Oh, I just meant in Halo 3. Halo 2 is absurdly difficult on Legendary. >>517556427Crow's Nest doesn't even come close to Two Betrayals. A bit of backtracking within a level is fine and in Crow's Nest it's just a few hallways and rooms. Two Betrayals is literally AotCR in reverse and it sucks ass because of the constant bridges, winding hallways, and copy pasted circular rooms that all look the same. Don't kid yourself, they knew how bad it was, they even put arrows on the ground.>>517556532Still does more to change it up than TB and they're relatively small sections with different spawns in both towers.>>517556913Floodgate is extremely short and visually very distinct from The Storm.

>>517557170>Halo 3>way too easy>Halo 2 fag says this unironically when 2 consists of "go sit at x and hold out on position till reinforcements arrives or the enemy gives up" from start to finish of the game on every levelNice try again, 2fag.

>>517557130The library is fucking golden you stupid sexy bastard. One of the few video game levels that gets better every single playthrough. Like listening to Beethoven or BACHHH

>>517557254>Halo is absolutely fucking horribleI was enjoying a nice piece of cheesecake and you have to make me see shit like this

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>>517557170nah

>>517557302>Claiming Halo 3 is harder than Halo 2 Mind bending.

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>>517556558the first level of CE is fine, if not repetitive. i'd rather play it than the first level of 2, 3, or reach, but i guess that doesn't really disprove your point

>>517557298>Still does more to change it up than TBTwo Betrayals has you fighting Flood. The second tower on The Covenant just has invisible Brutes, but Brutes nevertheless.

>>517557348this part is so dumb, why wouldn't he just take cortana with him, it would take an extra six seconds

Anyone insulting Two Betrayals is a low IQ retard as that's one of the best missions in the entire series

>>517557524Because then she wouldn't be plugged into Halo's fucking control room anymore.

>>517557298>A bit of backtracking within a level is fineIts arguably worse because youre just walking back with no goal or anything new.At least ce makes the encounters fresh when you backtrack.

>>517557429>claiming Halo 2 is hard

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>Start up Halo 3 >Interrupted every five minutes by Jen Taylor """""""acting""""""" OH GOD IM GOING INSAAAANE

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>>517518306why's halo one anniversary the only game in the mcc to not have the original sfx and music

>>517557768I look forward to campaign mods that just remove those.

>>517557698Can we just point at this retarded man and laugh?

>>517557298>all of those excusesWhy are 2/3fags on such a campaign to delegitimize CE.Theyre worse than reachfags and 343fags

>>517524452>halo 3 felt like an unfocused clusterfuckhow the FUCK could anyone unironically think this?

>>517557862We already saw you being a 2 apologist so no need to further magnify things worse at your expense.

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explain this shit

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>>517557768It would be one thing if it was just in Cortana, but its in almost every single level, sometimes multiple times. Why?

youtube.com/watch?v=UKMOweOMcys>what could have been

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>>517554481based

>>517557590Based

>>517557963BECAUSE ITS SO MUCH FUN, JAN

>>517557905By not being a 360zoomer

>>517558141Halo 3 feels far more "focused" than Halo 2. Halo 2 is good but it's slapped together. Halo 3 clearly has an intent to gameplay and campaign pacing and sticks to it closely. You can say you dislike the direction Halo 3 went but it's clearly "focused."Learn the english language you fucking mongoloid.

>>517558141you are a retard m8

>>517557981>Destinylets be real, Destiny was ALWAYS doomed to fail/never live up to the hype to the level of Halo, regardless of Activision's meddling or not. A completely generic, unfun story with crappy looter-shooter gameplay that nobody wants. How exactly was Destiny ever supposed to compete with a series legend like Halo?They legitimately would have had a better shot just sucking it up and staying with Microsoft, but they were so obsessed with creating something other than Halo that it irreversibly ruined their brand. Bungie is a hollow shell now.

>>517557698>>517557951What causes men to lie? I'm pretty sure Halo 2 LASO has never been completed without exploits. Possibly under ten times if it has been. Like, what causes you to do this? Why are you like this? Why?

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>>517557590Its definitely a pleb filter. Some of the best encounters in the game.

>>517558332>but they were so obsessed with creating something other than Halosource?

>level design mattering in a fps.Youre all being retarded, FEAR is the best fps and it shines because it has copy pasted corridoors that just work.

>>517557487The second tower has you approach from the air rather than the ground, it's mainly drones on the first level, the brute squad at the top is completely different from the one in the first tower, and it gets invaded by the flood after you hit the button. Even if it didn't do all of that and was an outright copy of the first tower it'd still be better than TB's asset reuse because it's a small section and not miles of walking.>>517557889It's called discussing opinions. What's worse than Reachfags and 343fags is CEfags that can't provide an argument for why their game is so great and resort to namecalling and shitposting when people are trying to have an actual discussion. For what it's worth I love CE but the level design for about half of the game is just god damn terrible compared to literally all of the other Bungie games.

>>517558332>crappy looter-shooter gameplaynigga have you even played Destiny 2? Easily some of the best gunplay in video games of all time.

>>517558318>>517558331360fag cope

>>517558332Destiny 1 had a rocky start but had a clear sense of direction and, had it been properly supported, I think it would have been incredibly well received. But the whole Destiny 2 thing shows a clear wavering of direction.

>>517558318I hate Halo 3 but you're absolutely correct. Halo 3 is a much more focused package and Halo 2 is scattered about with little reason, even though it's my favorite game of all time.

give it to me straight, I haven't played halo 2 mcc yetwhat did they do to the breaking benjamin and incubus songs

>>517558465Get the fuck out, bullet time bitch. I hope you slow motion crash into a highway abutment.

>>517558528Best weapons.Best enemies.Best music.Best atmosphere.Now say why h2 is so great other than that it has 3 colored hallways instead of just one.

>>517558528>Even if it didn't do all of that and was an outright copy of the first tower it'd still be better than TB's asset reuse because it's a small section and not miles of walking.Pretty much every Halo 3 level has you backtracking to some degree.

>>517558732>Best weapons.Halo 3>Best enemies.Halo 2>Best music.Halo 2>Best atmosphere.Halo CE

>>517558732>Best weapons.No>Best enemies.No>Best music.No>Best atmosphere.Yes

I unironically enjoy The Library. It's so hectic and fun.Thanks for reading.

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>>517558715They're intact for Halo 2 Classic but got re-recorded for Anniversary mode. Go look up the tracks.

youtu.be/jgs9sr2XRDA

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>>517558732Wow that's an unbeatable argument. Let me show you mine. Halo 3 is the best game.

>>517558859I wouldn't say that it's fun but it's comfy

>>517558810>best weapons>Halo 3>best enemies>Halo 2Lmao

>>517558879fucking phew, I was afraid to play the game for that reason

>>517558810Wrong.>>517558810Wrong aswellNow say why your favorite halo is so great compared to ce, or do you have mo positives and are only able to punch down?

>>517556003theres no matchmaking for co-op on any of the games. I feel you user I dont have any friends eitherbut if you or any other Holla Forumsirgins here want to play co op I am down

>>517558715They're still there only if you're playing on original graphics and not anniversary. If you're playing on anniversary you get some other music instead.

>>517558332I think it would have been a worthy successor to halo if they actually finished it before releasing it, the gunplay easily outshines halo

>>517558959that is the least controversial part of that post. Halo 3's sandbox is clearly improved over Halo 2 and Halo 2 had both better Brutes than H3 and better Elites than CE and Reach. It's clearly the best enemies in the entire series.

>>517518306is it just me or do hunters in the MCC version feel weak as fuck? playing on heroic

>>517558921H3 is boring.Weak weapons.Brutes are extremely boring and pushovers.3 flood only levels out of a 9 level campaign.Its base gunplay isnt meaty anymore.

>>517559115that's fine idgaf about anniversary graphics

>>517558930For sure.Especially in co-op.

>>517559150no loot shooter could possibly ever beat any bog standard FPS campaign.

>>517557698>>517557862>>517558335I am the Master Chief and have never lost to single "Halo" in all my years in the United Space Marine Corps, let alone one of these "Halo Games" you speak of. I deal in real Halos, and have a perfect 3-0 record against them, Installation 00 (I.e: The Ark) included.

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>>517559156>Halo 2 had both better Brutes than H3 and better Elites than CE and Reach.Imagine being this retarfed, unironically.Even bungie knew they fucked up with the brutes

Halo is great in the early and late game, but the middle sections are awful.

>>517544663>Silent CartographerThe feeling and animations of the guns is top notch. The sounds were also great even for shitty guns like the assault rifle.The sequels never carried these elements for some reason. Despite overall better balance.

>>517559156>Halo 3's sandbox is clearly improved over Halo 2But not over CE>Halo 2 had both better Brutes than H3They were beyond boring, Halo 3's Brutes were objectively more intelligent and interesting to fight even if they were easier>better Elites than CE and ReachYou have to have brain damage to think this, they're not even close to as agile

>>517559208>3 flood only levels out of a 9 level campaign.that's a pretty dishonest comparison. Only Cortana is a long level; The Ark and Covenant take nearly an hour each to complete. Meanwhile Floodgate is like 10 minutes tops and Halo is about 25 mins. Sierra 117 and Crows Nest are long as fuck levels too.

there's some gold lines buried in all this crap

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>>517559190CE Hunters were always kind of weak especially since hitting their skin counts as headshots. You can even one shot them with the magnum.

>>517559450Halo CE had the best grunt lines though>NOT AGAIN>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>517559402how come the first halo is the only one where chief moves the gun around while you aim the camera

>>517559156>Halo 2 had both better Brutes than H3Is this bait? What supposedly makes them better?

>>517559402The Assault Rifle in CE is an extremely underrated weapon and is far superior to how it functions in Halo 3. I used to think the opposite as a kid but playing the whole trilogy with mouse on PC now shows me the truth of the Halo CE AR being pretty fucking based.

>>517550235>Halo 1 matches as so fucking broken that you can get like 20 kills without even trying and matches last 5 minutes topsThats what made it so good though. Shitting on faggots with nothing but the op pistol was so fuckin fun

>>517559010>Now say why your favorite halo is so great compared to ce,More weapon variety, more enemy variety, more vehicle variety, dual wielding, skull, better level design, harder, more combat variety, online multiplayer, better enemy placement, emphasis on vertical gameplay, no more copy pasted levels, no more back tracking, better graphics, bungie jumping, trick jumping, quadshotting, BXB, BXR, fatman, Tower of Power, Banshee Ball, Cat and Mouse, hide and seek, I mean, should I keep trying to think of stuff? God I can't wait to see what dismissive nonsense you come up with to dispute this.

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>>517559596>>517559406youtube.com/watch?v=cL2zFh7cMUc

I bet h2 and 3 fags are the type to unironically enjoy vanilla skyrim

>play legendary >get in warthog/scorpion>marine bros get in>they get instakilled by almost anything

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>>517559190Play against the Hunters on Halo Reach Legendary. You can't cheese them with one shots weapons or plasma grenades since they are the talkies versions ever made, they'll take 2+ direct rockets to the back and they have to be perfect hits. Also their plasma beams and melee one shot you so have fun.

>>517559639Hi Ricky

>>517544663>shotgun is the only one in the series that feels and actually is powerful>assault rifle is the only one in the series to sound powerful >pistol is the only one in the series with noticeable recoil>plasma rifle is by far the strongest in the series and freezes enemies and even does headshot damage>weapons are all viable even on Legendary to the point where this is the only Halo game where you can realistically complete Legendary with just an ARThat's what happens when you have a non meme sandbox>“I would rather have fewer things with more meaning, than a million things you don’t identify with,” he says, sitting in a Berlin bar mocked up to resemble a 1920s Chicago speakeasy. “I would rather spend more time with a gun and make sure the gun’s design is really deep – that there’s a lot of cool stuff you learn about it.”

>>517559737Oblivion > Morrowind > SkyrimHalo 3 > CE > 2Half-life 2 > Half-life 1Portal 2 > Portal 1

>>517559683You didnt actually list why or how any of that makes it better mate. You just sound like a faggot

>>517559748>Play against the Hunters on Halo Reach Legendary"Go out to the ghetto and get gang raped to death." God the horror.

>>517559683>actually lists custom game shit like fat kid.Jesus>dual wielding is a positive.Im not even going to bother making a reply, you dont know what youre in for.

>>517559737>enjoying SkyrimYikes.

>>517559873Well played. I concede to your superior argument, gay man.

>>517559708>shilling your 26 minute long videoNah I'm goodHalo 3's Brutes are objectively more intelligent They have less visual variety and they aren't as challenging or agile as elites but they're a lot better than Halo 2's where no part of them felt satisfying to shoot except the head and the only interesting AI behavior they had was them literally going apeshit

>>517559683Probably the worst post ITT and that's saying something because there have been some absolutely brainlet certified posts here

>>517558752This is so pedantic. When people complain about backtracking in games they're talking about games excessively reusing old areas, not the mere act of going somewhere you've been before. In Crow's Nest it makes sense to keep going back to the command center and the fact that it's a small area and they change up the enemy encounters and the command center itself as the level progresses keeps it from feeling stale.>>517559873>listing things you like about a game isn't a proper argument but just saying CE is the best in every category isAnd you call 2/3 fans insufferable.

>>517559708I don't feel like watching 26 minutes of drivel.

>>517559972>Heh, four of your 23 points are custom games, looks like I win another internet argument... Big yikes, giant oof.

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>>517556897Multiplayer aside, why? It's CE's combat basically perfected. A.I is amazing, there's no flood levels, battles are open and allow multiple approaches. is just Eric Nylund fags mad it's not Fall of Reach? Because the combat is better in Reach than it's ever been before, and it's not 4 hours long either like Halo 3 is.

>>517518306pleb filteredCE's campaign is honestly a magical experience like watching a classic sci-fi movie for the first timeNo other Halo campaign after it gave me quite the same feeling

>>517560175Yes, the post that proves you the most incorrect would make you the angriest, which would be the worst post in your eyes. Haha what a bitch.

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>>517560064>>517560250the video proves you wrong. Stop being a faggot.

>>517558335>el retard

>>517560267>It's CE's combat basically perfected>the combat is better in Reach than it's ever been beforeReachfags are beyond saving

>>517560316very based extremely redpilled certifiably patrician

>>517560064>>517560250>>517560509Halo 2 is my favorite game of all time, but please don't force people to watch half hour YouTube videos. Fucks sake.

>>517560316Based

>>517560245>nooo it makes senseAka its ok when i personally like it.It also made sense for chief to return in ce for the story.Also about players always hating returning to previous levels is not true.Ratchet and clank 1 final level has you returning to the first level and its universally liked.

>>517560316>I played it when I was eight so it's the best Well, I guess that's true for you.

>>517560509Here's a video that proves you wrongyoutube.com/watch?v=WPOlLH8p8u8

This thread is a perfect example of why we need to talk about the flaws in CE more often. Fans of all of the other games (aside from delusional 343 fans that always fall back on "Halo needed to get with the times") are able to accept criticism of their games and at least discuss why they disagree or enjoy the games in spite of the problems. CE meanwhile has been put on a pedestal for so long that the people who play it can't even have a rational discussion about it. Just look at all the people ITT just straight up dismissing even the slightest complaints about CE. It's embarrassing.

>>517560509I skipped ahead a bit and TL;DR it's complaining that the H3 Brutes were disappointing. The H2 Brutes were still boring.

>>517560809>this game feels old me no like

>>517557629why was that still necessary? what if somebody else came to the control room while chief was gone? didn't they establish that it was a big deal for cortana to not be captured by the enemy?

>>517560963I played it when I was eight as well though.

>>517557698halo 2 is much, much harder than halo 3. halo 3 throws useful weapons at you. on higher difficulties in halo 2, you're going to spend a lot of time with nothing but plasma pistols

>>517560472The post that's the most incorrect would be the worst post in my eyes, and that's the one you made my friend>>517560961>let's all have a nice and civil discussion where we admit I'm right :)>>>/reddit/

>>517560961>we need to talk about racist sexist gamers liking old games

>>517547395You need to turn the volume up. CE is meant to be CRANKED >>517557309Based and Truthpilled. Last time I played CE I was worried about doing it again. Ended up liking the Library more than all the other levels. It's perfectly simple, a masterwork of design, just the right variation of enemies to make each identical area feel completely different than the last.

>>517559708What is with redditfags and Jewtube?

>>517561030Well it should be fresh in your mind then so I guess that just makes you a retard

>>517561104>The post that's the most incorrect would be the worst post in my eyes, and that's the one you made my friendEmbarrassing. >Your 23 points are all wrong, I'm not going to explain why so I win the internet argument automatically, better luck next time.

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>>517520268Agreed, nothing about Halo has ever gelled with me. Hate the floaty jumping, weak ass shields, multiplayer try hards who have been playing these games for literally 2 decades. Every FPS it ever inspired is trash as well

>>517560316>CE's campaign is honestly a magical experience like watching a classic sci-fi movie for the first timecome back when you're 18. you faggots need to quit shitting up this board.

>>517525882Exactly. The flood simply are not fun to fight, and completely unsatisfying to kill.

>>517560749>Also about players always hating returning to previous levels is not true.I didn't even say that you fucking retard. My whole point about "backtracking" is that it can be good when done right and that people only use it as a complaint when it's not. And yeah I personally like Crow's Nest but I also think from an objective standpoint it's just handled better than any of the backtracking in CE and gave reasons why. Yeah it makes sense for Chief to go back through AotCR from a story standpoint but from a game design standpoint it's blatantly a result of the game's rushed development.

>>517561312But I'm older than you baby boy?

>>517561104>>517561228Keep proving me right you faggot shitposters. Continue seething as you are unable to form even a single coherent thought about why you actually like CE.

>>517561461>nou :(Lmao just accept that you weren't ready for that insult

>>517561098>plasma pistols>harder by just making you use your brain more somehow makes halo 2 harder; simply for common sensenope

>>517561558Don't bother with them, there's some weird sick mental illness that prevents them from seeing clearly.

>>517560556Fuck yourself, you're not even giving an argument why it isn't. There's no broken sandbox like the effectiveness of the pistol in Halo 1, dual wielding of Halo 2 making every weapon weak as shit except the BR, or Halo 3 just being more Halo 2. It's actually a return to CE but just better. I'd hardly call myself a Reach fag either considering I dropped the multiplayer and that's just as important as campaign. But its campaign and core combat is clearly superior. The elites actually feel like elites again too, but again just more intelligent and better in every way. I mean what is the problem with Reach?

So we've finally reached a point where people who haven't played Halo CE before are "zoomers"

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Shut the fuck up and someone host Holla Forumseekend Big Team Slayer

>>517561603Haha holy shit you are on the verge of tears.

>>517561403Halo's jumping is probably what makes it the most fun shooter of all time. Levels built around it have great verticality and it makes you think twice before spamming the jump key. Halo has very intentional movement abilities; if you are careless you will die. It's a feature.The shields are plenty strong. Strong enough to separate it from cawadooty and other arena shooters. All three have great average TTK.and you being bad at the game is not a criticism.I swear, at some point we need the reconcile the fact that not EVERY boomer who dislikes Halo is also virtuous and intelligent. There are some fucking dumbass retarded xenials out there. Many of them dislike Halo for some very fucking stupid reasons like what you outlined here.

>>517561747you mean time moves and people age?

>>517561274>Ended up liking the Library more than all the other levels. It's perfectly simple, a masterwork of design, just the right variation of enemies to make each identical area feel completely different than the last.jesus.

>>517561764/v/eekend customs WHEN

>>517561558>nooo you just think you like it.>nothing is real you stupid fascistSure reddit

>>517561558You've been dismantled in threads time and time again just go back and find a thread where you got utterly shit on by someone autistic enough to go on a 50 post spree once again dismantling your complaints about CE's weapon sandbox/story/level design

>>517557698Definitely the hardest game in the series

>>517561838But in this case it's actually terrifying

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>>517561747yeah, even if you were a PC gamer in 2003 you would have picked up CE. Just like me when I was 10 years old. If you didn't play the game at all back then as a boomer, you're just a retarded boomer. So if you haven't played CE EVER you are either a retarded boomer or a zoomer. Neither are respectable. Retards don't get respect just for being old.

3 < 2 < CE < ODST

>>517561867We had one on Thursday. Things ran out of steam when we kept doing slight variants of Infection in 3, but having an actual playlist and set games would help greatly.

>>517557698Halo 2 on Legendary is one of the hardest FPS campaigns of all time.

>>517561809>projection after getting utterly crushed:^)>>517561995Change the last < to an = and you have achieved ascendant taste

>>517561747>>517561947Sneed yourself

>>517560809CE actually holds up incredibly well today if you ask meThe combat and AI were ahead of their time and are still way better than many modern FPS certainly better than DestinyThe graphics have a timeless charm to them with an incredible atmosphere due almost entirely to the dynamic soundtrackMoving into a new area and hearing the music pick up still gets me to this day and I think no other game including later Halo games did it as well as CE does It almost feels like the soundtrack is telling the story more than anything else

>517557302>go sit at x and hold out on positionwhy do people pretend this happens more than twice in the entire game? Once in Outskirts, once at the end of Sacred Icon. That's it.

>>517561897Well, even though you're wrong and he's right, I want to leave you with one last thing. Halo CE is the lowest selling game in the series. Teehee. Nobody played your favorite game.

>>517562029Dying randomly to hitscanners is not difficult it's just tedious. Blood 2 would literally be the hardest FPS ever made if we applied that logic.

>>517562001If someone hosts make sure to get Jenga, Tetris and Lava Pit, they're dope game modes

>>517560064Everything in the video is objectively correct. The only time the brutes are ever challenging is when the game decides to put a dozen of them in a room. They have more numbers than the Elites ever did in Halo 1 or 2, but that should tell you how bad they are when 1 or two elites is more challenging than 10 or so brutes.

>>517561897>check the archiveEmbarrassing. The guys that post a video instead of actually discussing their own thoughts even have more credibility than you and yet you still feel superior. Unironically cringe.

>>517557590incredibly based>>517557768>>517557979I think, outside of Cortana, there are less than 10 overall interruptions in the entire campaign, each lasting about 10 seconds. Are you the same kind of autists who complain about the 15 minutes of cutscenes in all of half-life 2?

>>517561957Halo CE is a disgraceful FPS game though. Even at the time.

>>517562064>Complaining about projection and using lenny face Haha this dudes about to smash his keyboard!

>>517562001>>517562165>tfw you're the one guy who actually enjoys Trash Compactor

>>517562268it's not and you have zero arguments to prove otherwise lmao. Especially if you never played it.

>>517520268fag

>>517562132>sales>teehee>>>/reddit/>>>/twitter/>>>/resetera/>>517562128>Oracle elevator>Regret gondola>QZ gondolaOk retard

>>517562353>CE fans so humiliatingly cornered they restort to challenging the fact that the person they're arguing with even played Halo: Combat Evolved Whoa

>>517562268Nice revisionism

>>517562132It just makes it better tb h.COD sold more than 3 so its automaticallybbetter

playing halo ce on legendary and this shit is just impossiblei dont mean impossible as in it literally cant be done but some levels are so god damn difficult and have such huge difficulty spikes its just not fun to play on legendary.

>>517562189>mention in the post that you are responding to that Halo 2 brutes are more challenging but that doesn't make them better than Halo 3's>respond by arguing that Halo 2's brutes are more challengingNice brain damage bro

>>517562451I think we broke his brain

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>>517562128Almost every single level in 2 has some horde moment or a moving elevator part.Cope

>>517562353Heaps of arguments. Its slow pace, its weapon limit, its stunted vehicle design, its poor gunplay, limited geometric detail, its limited enemy types and especially its insanely repetitive level design which in 2001 was definitely not as common. About the only thing Halo CE nailed was the music.

>>517562132Fucking based salesfag. This is why Fallout 4 is the best game in the series unlike faggy ass Fallout 1/2/NV and the Destiny franchise is a thousand times better than Halo ever was.

>>517562482But it's not. It was always bad

>>5175626252 is worse on all parts lmao

So what kind of custom games and forge maps do you guys have saved? I've got a few things but mostly just for Reach, I don't know what happened to all my Halo 3 shit.

>>517562679Haha I know sales don't mean anything, I just wanted to hurt his feelings even more and it worked.

>>517562732Whatever you say, zoomer.

>>517562189>Everything in the video is objectively correct.Why don't you paraphrase points made in the video instead of repeatedly pointing to it and saying "This is my argument".

>>517562625>slow pace>bad>weapon limit making every weapon useful>bad>powerful vehicles and funny physics>bad>CE gunplay>bad>limited enemy types that are all dynamic and move around>bad>repetitive level design when the spaces are open and play completely differently when backtracking>bad

Halo 2 and 3 are just ce with small alterations.If CE is shit the entire franchise is shit

almost 20 years later Holla Forums is still seething over this masterpiece

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>>517562794Why would it hurt his feelings if what you posted was meaningless?

>>517562826Yeah okay. Enjoy it. I'll play some good FPS games instead.

>>517562954Such as?

>>517562750Who mentioned 2?

>>517562929I don't fully understand it. I just know it works.

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>imagine thinking after spending hours driving around and moving through corridor after repetitive corridor going peepeepoopoo halo 1s campaign was good

>>517563034Me since its relevant when were talking about shit halos

>>517563072It looks like the list of things you do fully understand is very limited.

>>517563082>Imagine liking shooting cool guns at cool aliensNooo im going insane

>>517563082I remember playing Two Betrayals for the first time. After going through my 9th set of identical hallways and bridges it finally clicked. There has never been a video game this good.

Polls for Holla Forumseekend Halo 3 tomorrow.>Vote for maps you want to play (including their vanilla variants):strawpoll.com/qow2w1dge>Vote for maps you don't want to play:strawpoll.com/adk29hbp6If you want a custom map or gametype included in the rotation then reply to this post with what they are and a username I can download the files from.

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>>517562873correct.

teambeyond.net/forum/topic/17469-halo-sandbox-balance/

>>517563024You know your little counterargument reminds me a point in time where there was someone in an Aliens Colonial Marines argument defending that game. One of the greatest FPS abominations of all time was being defended by someone who had developed a mindset to accept that this slow, janky and stunted abortion was the the pinnacle of FPS.The first time I played Halo its insanely slow pace and nauseating FOV seriously made me wonder how anyone could enjoy this. Then I just realized I was too old and people had accepted it as gospel and never sought anything else out. Similar line of argument is brought up from praise of abstract art created in a half hour studio session with absolutely no effort or skill being put in.Can you imagine Id Software pouring over insane crunch sessions with Carmack continually screaming at the team for them to strive for absolute perfection and accept nothing less compared to say Bungie saying "Just copy past that section, bro and we'll put some different packs in to make it seem different" Just disgusts me. Bungie is a talentless studio other than Marty. Games like Destiny just cement that.

>>517563236Yeah well, what you don't know could fill a book.

>>517518306Yo anyone want to play any of the campaigns instead of complaining about them?

So what is your guys favorite weapon from each game?

>>517563647Tldr lmoa

>>517526972it isn't as fun, legendary doesnt feel like you have as many options as ce, that weird ass aa that has after images, br > dmr (dmr feels like pistol 2.0 while br feels like an actual different gun), most of the fights are super small scale even if they want to seem big. it 100% got brutes and 1tapping them in the head right, though. ce doesn't feel as percise when you try to hs.

>>517563794No.Im a 2fag and suck cocks for fun

>>517563397>Longshore isn't even thereGuess we know which list that one's going on.

>>517563949I must've missed it. Just consider it on rotation.

>>517563797CE- shotgun (best weapon in the game from the best sandbox in the series from the best game in the series)2- BR (satisfying to use)3- BR (satisfying to use but less satisfying than 2)ODST- Magnum (first good magnum since CE unless you count the broken prepatch Halo 2 dual magnums)Reach- Sniper (best sniper in the series)4- LR (through stockholm syndrome)5- SMG (every weapon in the game feels like trash)

>>517562558you're trying too hard>>517562818 I'm not even the guy you're speaking too because it's the first time i've brought the video up. but..>they're weak>armor can't recharge, removing any sense of urgency the player may otherwise have to finish off a brute before it retreats(which they never do anyway) >melee stun lock is broken>their melee attacks are weak and easily avoidable>their berserk is nerfed and only occurs when their armor is broken anyway, when they're already weak.>their armor breaks apart far too easily>their main weapon, the spiker, is absolute dogshit and won't ever kill you.>they're more passive than their Halo 2 counterparts.

>>517564228>you're trying too hardWtf does that mean? I addressed the fact that they were more challenging in Halo 2, that doesn't make them more interesting Jackal snipers are more challenging in Halo 2 and that doesn't make them better than they were in 3

Okay, I was defending the difficulty of H3 Legendary earlier ITT. Here's a weird question: is H3 easier on PC than Xbox? I just played Sierra 117 solo on my friend's Xbox the other week, and it was grueling. Now, I just finished the level on my PC and it was a cakewalk. The Arbiter stuck with me the whole time, which I could have sworn he didn't at the end of the level on Xbox. I was using a controller both times.

>I would have been your daddy...>sarge hugging it out with an elite>flood filtering out normiesIt really was the best game in the series

>>517563794I'll play H3 Legendary with you. What's your username?

>>517542441>It’s an user is a retard episodeChrist, fall back to a corner, chuck a couple of grenades into both sides, wait for them to kill each other, and then mop up whatever side survives.Imagine being so brain dead you can’t figure out fucking Halo

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>>517518306I respectfully disagree

>>517564689I played CE through 3's Legendary pretty obsessively and you're noticing something that I eventually noticed also, and it's one reason I could never decide if 3 was good or just okay. 3's Legendary difficult is very uneven. Sometimes you'll breeze through a fight, which is normal for H3 Legendary, but then sometimes you'll just die 20 times and struggle like hell. It doesn't feel like earlier games, where you get punished for picking a bad approach or doing something obviously wrong, it just seems to happen and you don't learn anything by it, including why it was so hard that time

>>517564376No you didn't you retard. You said they weren't as challenging as the elites. Not that they weren't as challenging as the brutes. Is your memory shit or something?

>>517565885But then what makes the difficulty so uneven? Random enemy movement, gun placement, etc.? I'm not so certain it's the game rather than how I played it: for instance, that part where you have to fight Brutes and Jackals (snipers across the river) right before the Jackal sniper Vietnam-simulator? I just took them out from a distance with the infinite-ammo turret, which I didn't do the previous time. Still, the uneven difficulty didn't entirely seem to lie with me, so you might have a point. I just wonder why it is.

>>517549234I really, really like this gif

>>517518306The level design was so much better than 2 or even 3. >>517519961I agree with this to an extent; 3's gunplay was so much better.>>517520268This would be the opinion of Holla Forums in its entirety about 10 years ago, excluding call of duty. I'm seriously hoping you never play tacticool shooters.

>>517566140>>517559406You are brain damaged

>>517549234My favorite Halo 2 glitch is that Guilty Spark's bulb dims instead of brightening when he talks

>>517567140Yea, you can't just keep saying that and make it true. I just explained to you why you're a retard and who's actually the one suffering brain damage. You can't even remember your posts.

>>517566429That is the mystery. When I die in CE or 2, I'm like "oh, I played that wrong." When I die in 3, it's more like "Well, I guess I died again, somehow." It's not like that every time of course but it's that way a lot.I think a big factor is that map design isn't quite as tight in Halo 3. Not everyone will agree with that but I think it's a big factor, Halo is always about fighting a bunch of dudes in a particular space and some of H3's spaces felt awkward to me. Also vehicular combat: mongooses were not fun to use in campaign and absofuckinglutely not in Legendary, and also Brute Choppers were cancer because their projectiles were so fast and did such high damage

>>517518306At least Halo 1's campaign understood the limitations of the vehicle physics and didn't try to base huge battles and setpieces around them. Getting fucked by the bouncy/floaty handling is a pretty common occurrence in 2 and 3 and it fucking sucks

>>517567468You didn't explain jack shit, you thought I didn't say what I said I did and just got BTFO. More challenging does not mean more interesting>>517560887

>>517545176you've never played a tribes game in your life, let alone existed in the 90s.

I wish 3 had arbiter levels

>>517567897>They have less visual variety and they aren't as challenging or agile as elites but they're a lot better than Halo 2's i'm actually getting trolled and you aren't really this dumb. And I might as well point to Halo 2's e3 demo for why Halo 2 is the greatest game ever if you think promo material a year+ out from release is indicative of anything. Like wow, Bungie said their brutes are going to be amazing and also debug'd their way into making the Halo 2 brutes look as shitty as possible to make their point. How gullible are you?

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>>517567516I'm about to play through the campaign for the first time in a long time, so I'll keep in mind what you've said. Vehicular combat is indeed AIDS in 3, no matter how much fun it has the potential to be.

>>517569373Unifying player and vehicle health was the worse thing for vehicular combat. You feel like you're made out of paper.

>>517568093I'm glad it didn't

>>517529223Halo 3 has the worst campaign of the Halo games what are you talking about.

>>5175713232 fags need to be shot and gagged.

>>517518306I guess you have shit taste, fuck the arbitrer.

>matchmaking teleporting during swordsMAKE IT STOP, PLEASE

>>517568759Holy shit you retard did you not read the post I quoted Bungie's video objectively shows why the Halo 2 brutes are not fun to fightIf you think the Halo 2 brutes are fun to fight you might as well think the Halo 4 prometheans are fun to fight, they're damage sponges that are more challenging than the Halo 3 brutes after all

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>>517573736actually braindead

>>517573884>you didn't say the Halo 3 brutes are more interesting despite being less challenging>point to direct proof of me saying it>b-braindead!!!Lmao