Shin Godzilla

it's some fag going through every thread accusing people of samefagging because he's a butthurt faggot who wants IDs

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Stupid Shinji! Why do you have to fuck everything up? Anta baka!

Asuka check'em!

i wonder if a {{{jew}}} posted this? and this?

I never saw this in the movie, does anyone know what it's from?

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Looks like Gamera got his face melted. Though I could be wrong.

funny user.

oh ok. Thanks user.

Oh, I forgot. Shirō Sagisu's score was nothing special. It even reused some stuff from Eva.

Ok, so Anno was a being a depressed faggot, and Shinji can't into CGI.

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I saw it a few hours ago

It's very anno, but not as much anno as I would have liked. Wish they also went darker/bleaker with it. Not that it's not dark/bleak, and it takes itself more seriously then even the heisei films, but I wish they would have gone even further, like Giant God Warrior levels (which this does remind me of quite a bit though) or cloverfield levels.

A lot of the criticisms people have of too much political talking is actually somewhat well founded, even compared to other godzilla films there's a lot of it, but there's enough scenes of city destruction/godzilla intermixed that I don't think in the end it detracts too much. Also, bureaucracy and politics seems to be a major theme in the film, though since i'm not Japanese some of the message there flies over my head, and some character moviations were lost on me as a result on that and I think some translation issues

I wish the start of the film had a little more buildup, because it's litterally just "oh shit godzilla" like 20 seconds in, but then what felt like the next 30 minutes took took long to get going and wasn't very interesting. If they had just cut out like a solid 15 minutes there and re-placed that time to later in the film and devoted it to more Godzilla destroying stuff with a sea of flames in the background it would have been better because as I said it needed a bit more of that anyways.

Definitely the coolest version of his atomic breath ever. I love that it's just a giant gas stove plume that he can focus into a beam or widen into a flamethhower, but I also feel like the beam spam segments weren't as hype as they should have been. Maybe it's because I was spoiled on them?

The camerawork was very good, not very typical toho. It has lots of "interactive" shots, like seeing things from the perspective of a security camera or from a laptop webcam, which are cool, but like with the tone I wish they went even further with that.

The CG is a mixed bag

When it looks good, it looks fucking amazing the lighting and surface detail as well as the sense of weight looks almost like it's an actual suit or physical prop, which is great, since that's where CG usually falls short, but as it's CG it also doesn't have the con of practical effects where they look unogranic/the scale being off. It's like the best parts of CG and a suit put together with none of the drawbacks. Almost all the CG shots of military equipment look great and indusihable from the real thing and most of the faraway shots of Godzilla in his final form look this good. The CG explosions look great and I hope all toho godzilla films moving foward use those because the miniature gunpowder charges/smoke they used in older films get BTFO here.

Sadly, when the CG looks bad, it looks fucking awful. A lot of the close up shots on godzilla have extremely blurry textures or bump/normal/parallax maps (whatever they use) which remind me of 80's/90's CG. The blood looks awful. I'm not sure why the level of quality the the CG is so polarized that it looks amazing sometimes and so bad other times. Were some shots by a really good VFX studio and some by another and they didn't share assets?

Overall, it's pretty good, especially as a sort of reimagining of the original 54 film through a modern lense, but it's not SO good that it's amazing, and it's sort of at this spot where while it's good, but not amazing, so it makes me wishing it was better that much more painful.

Putting my response in spoiler tags even though i'm not saying any more spoilers then what you said just in case somebody sees this post but not yours to save them from it

The main issue with the transformations is the CG on the first form looks terrible.

Back lasers are really cool but I think knowing it ahead of time makes it less hype. I hope you've only heard that it happens rather then having seen images/video of it

How could it been "more anno". What do you think constitutes "anno".

vimeo.com/64987176 This?

I'm not sure if that was conscience on Godzilla's part. It seemed like it was gradually gaining power as Godzilla got used to projecting it, then it died down gradually as it ran out of energy. I would of liked if it actually burned people alive, showing burned survivors like in the original nuke attacks, and that one video of burnt children running from a napalm attack in the Vietnam war. And short cutaways of piles of dead people on the streets as well.

The color and lighting on the tanks was just off at some places, same with the cars and other assorted things the 1st two forms moved I cannot describe them other than looking wrong. I actually heard other audience members laughing.

I'm under the assumption that it's either budget or inexperience issues with Shinji Higuchi the VFX director. Darkness would of been suitable to hide the bad VFX.

This is OP, I think the major problem I had with this film was that I didn't emotionally resonate with it at all. I didn't with Eva either come to think of it, but I did with the Giant God Warrior video.

I also think describing how Godzilla worked as a animal served too detract from "the force of nature" aspect of Godzilla but added too the "government bureaucracy is inefficient too help the people" aspect of Godzilla.

Dammit.

Shinji Higuchi worked on this, and it also looks like shit.

I'm glad to hear that it's not terrible, but I knew the Japs were just jerking themselves off with this. Still going to see if soon. How crowded were the theatres for you guys? The last thing I want to deal with are children or sniveling plebs who stumbled into the wrong movie.

I've seen blurry pics but its out of context of the movie.

Is it me or are Japanese better with practical effects than CGI. With the older Godzilla movies there was a lot of detail in the practical effects. I'm not trying to bash CGI here its just that from the Japanese movies I've seen they suck at CGI.

Yeah they tend to have poor or questionable 3D effects. But that's probably usually the case outside of American productions.

Well Satan, because I'm a lazy cunt I only thought to buy tickets the day before. I got on fandango and there where two theaters in town showing it. the 1st one had all of it's seats taken and the 2nd was "general admission" not having anything to tell me if the ticket's were sold or not. I called the theater and they said there was 16 seats taken. so me and my dad bought them when we got there. Outside the theater there was a autist in a trench-coat, inside it only got about 1/3rd full. Somebody brought there kid (aged somewhere between 5 and 8) who thankfully was completely silent. My only complaint was some fucking faggot who kept turning on his cell phone.

It might be a user taken screenshot of a model similar to this, notice the tail on this one.

Best girl trips, checked

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Well, quads don't lie

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Yeah, the origami thing was pretty dumb.

Anyone?

I'm an idiot, why did they origami that stuff? What did it do?

I want to see this.
Is it getting a U.S. release?

It showed the pattern.

Still a better review than the sperg-out that Norman England gave it

From what I've seen the effects in the movie actually looked pretty good, or at least on-par with most American movies given its $10,000,000 budget, the movements might seem rigid to some but they're refreshing compared to most american CGI which looks like its putting the entire body behind each movement and bounces around like jello

Who?

Csn you give an example please?

This is why I hate discussing Kaiju with yanks. They always complain about the transformers movies by Bay but that's exactly what they keep asking for from godzilla.

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>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godzilla–Kong_(film_series)
It…might be cool, in a action movie sense.

Cam rip when?

startpage.com/do/search?q=shin godzilla camrip&lui=english

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Torrent for it? Not trusting random ass sites.

Fucking google it.

The CGI is fucking garbage. With practical effects, no matter how bad it is, at least it looks tangible and entertaining. Bad CGI is just bland.

Needs to become a reaction .gif with a computer like this one.

googled it, found a 5 minute clip only

Please go back to reddit, you don't belong here.

Not him, but not everyone with a good idea has the agency to act on it, so it doesn't hurt to mention it.

not an argument

You who can't keep their trap shut about reddit? Redditors like you.

t. redditor trying to fit in

wow the atomic breath doesn't look so bad.

For some reason Brits and Aussies get mad as shit at us even when we didn't do anything.

Is it because of the Bush era? I remember they were pissed at us back then.

Nice try yank, stop acting like a nigger and just fess up to how shit you are.

Just got back from watching it. Shit was lit. Incredibly flawed, but all in all, it was still a solid Godzilla movie.

Engrish Girl was fucking annoying and is the reason I will probably watch this movie dubbed from here on in.

More annoying than Engrish Girl was the usage of Decisive Battle from the Evangelion soundtrack. I was fine with a cameo. Not 4 fucking remixes of Eva music in the context of a Godzilla movie.

A lot of backhanded political commentary which may or may not be the viewer's thing.

Godzilla's 2nd and 3rd form looked goofy as shit, but charming. 4th form was terrifying and unpredictable.

Overall this film is basically the Super Castlevania IV to the 1954 movie's Castlevania 1.

8/10 would watch shitty hong kong tier dub, would buy figurine.

It was shit tbqh fam. I don't get how people like this. The CGI is shit, the cinematography is a kind of disgusting, the military porn isn't operatorkino enough, the music is really unfitting and pretentious, the actors are lame, and the monster design is just beyond suspension of disbelief. I know it's a work of fiction, but it's one of those things that are so absurd they're shit. Is this supposed to be a parody sequel or some shit?

I thought it was a masterpiece.

Suck my kaiju dick

Just saw it yesterday. After a night of drunken theory making, I have come to the conclusion that Godzilla, atleast in this movie, is literally God's mortal form

Oh, so you know we're better than you and you're salty about it. lol

What? There was only 3 forums.
1. and right
2. Left
3. [1st 2 videos], and

First form is off screen, my bad.

What films are "operatorkino" too you?
How so?

The Judeo-christian God, or some nip god?

Do you think it intentionally followed the kaiju-filmmaking conventions?

Not God that is known for any religion. Just God. Think about it

In the movie, the name Gojira comes from some island and the word means "God Incarnate".

Protesters early in the movie chant "Godzilla is God!" unless it was some translation fuckup

massive humanoid skeletons frozen in time as they climbed up Goji's tail, reaching out as if to worship it

It's an Anno film. Meaning it's chock full of religious stuff

Other than what you just mentioned, what is there? I saw no religious symbolism anywhere.

Not gonna lie, it's weird looking but the action is interesting.

I'd say it was an 8.5 for me, but all the points I take off are at the end. That whole final encounter felt rushed and the way it ended was jarring and didn't feel natural at all. Still, I had a lot of fun with it and liked it a lot. The first encounter felt disturbing even if it looked silly, and the second encounter was downright terrifying.

It was the sequel to the first movie I always wanted but never got.

This looks actually pretty good. I was pretty worried because of his design and the back lasers but they managed to make it work.

For example look at animated Disney films or even the 2014 Godzilla film. any time the monster would move it felt like the movements were too fluid and dynamic, to me this is what makes effects no matter how real they look feel fake, the movements of the models always seems to be too fluid, almost hyper-realistic, it feels like they either have no weight or too much weight when they move

CG isn't nearly at the point where they should use it so liberally in live action movies. It still doesn't look real and people have just gotten so used to it that they can ignore that it looks like they put actors into a videogame.

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I want to believe you guys can tell the different between practical effects and CGI, because scrolling up there's at least a fag who was calling all special effects, "CGI".

Gojira>Shin Godzilla>Gojira vs. movies>Godzilla(2014)

Just came back. I was surprised by how packed the theatre was, and people were clapping and hollering at the end. That was unexpected and I thought was pretty cool. Hell, there wasn't so much as a whisper when I saw Godzilla 2014. Speaking of unexpected, that fucking beam. I loved the scene at night. Completely blown away. Overall a good movie that bogs down in the bureaucratic stuff, but it all works out in the end.

so what were those things coming out of Godzilla's body?

is that the same finnish retard from lukka pippa video? sauce?

Godzilla vs. movies >>>> everything else
faggot

sounds like you have a case of shit taste.

Sounds like you have a case of dick up your ass, faggot.

Has the artbook been released yet?

I didn't see them long enough too tell exactly, they looked vaguely humanoid but with Godzilla back-plates.

I'm guessing they were the missing crew of that boat from the beginning. Why they are mutated is beyond me though,

I capitalized God and god differently user. Nip "gods" are more akin too nature spirits often-times.

You're going too have too provide an example .gif or video, I still don't understand.

No idea, I downloaded it from here.

What's that?

What did he mean by this?

The same building was also in the final scene.

samefag

Are we getting traffic or something? It seems like the quality of posts has gone down considerably.

Examples please.

what id he mean by this?

Some anons seem to be a bit more aggressive than usual, and you also have one running around calling people samefag in various threads for no reason.

samefag

Gojira (1954) > Godzilla vs Destroyah > Tristar Godzilla > the rest of heisei Gojira vs. movies > Godzilla(2014) > shin godzilla > shitty godzilla vs movies

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Why do you like 2014 so much? Besides composition that movie didn't do to much right.

hey now don't knock Godzilla 2000 user. That shit was good.

Here's the last shot of the movie.

Yeah, they are definitely humanoid… I would say they are just debris caught in his tail, but you have the mutation going on with them as well. I stand by it being the missing people from the boat.

What's that?

Where can I pirate this? I'm dying toy see it but no EU release.

I don't, but it's less shit than annozilla. The composition is pretty horrible at 80% of the shots, but still, they tried better.

It's not heisei? It was made in 1999 if I'm not wrong, so it's supposed to be heisei.

Godzilla 2014 was a really enjoyable film after the first 30 minutes. It was a traditional Godzilla movie but from the perspective of a soldier pulling off all the dumb shit to stop him.

Godzilla 2000 was made in 1999 but the heisei series ended with Godzilla vs Destroyah. Godzilla 2000 started the Shinsei/Millenium series.

The scenes with breaking bad guy were a kind of decent. The rest of the film is shit. Then, the shots with godzilla are way too dark. The jumpcuts are annoying too. But still it looks better than annozilla, which cinematography looks like an asylum monster flick with slightly better cgi. The military bits are lame and the plot is absurdly bad. If they would've gone with a suit and 100% practical effects, at least the movie could be fun to watch. But it's just laughably bad.

Completely and utterly disagree.

Brain Cranston was fucking boring as a character. He was MUH WIFE over and over. Seeing a Godzilla movie from a grunt rather than a scientist perspective was an interesting take on things.

People don't seem to understand that Godzilla is always the sub plot in his own movies. He is never the main character and it's about telling a story in a disaster situation.

True. Though I felt the 2014 film was a big budget version of Gareth Edwards previous film Monsters.

I thought Monsters was boring, but the 2nd Monsters is good. Monsters all over Sand nigger land and an American military unit caught in the middle of it. Not a fan of military movies but I enjoyed it.

wait there was a 2nd monsters?

I just looked so disregard what I just said in the previous post. The film looks interesting.

I enjoyed it a lot. But it's a military film in the monsters world which makes it interesting. Prepare for Kebab and HOORAH

That sounds awesome user.

The plot was shit, but his performance was decent enough to keep me watching. The rest of the cast was like a walking plank compared to him.

Well I do. Somehow, the only movie that did it right other than the 1954 one was Tristar's Godzilla. The military sequences are done well compared to other godzilla movies, and I find Ferris Bueller to be not as annoying as what people are saying.

Zilla is not goddamn watchable unless you're a retard.

The plot was exactly what it needed to be. It's a giant monster battle and the military ineffectively trying to fight it. One man trying to do his duty when no one else is in a position to do so.

The CGI is pretty good, the lighting is great, the practical effects blend very nicely, the military porn is fun, and the human characters the most watchable among all godzilla movies. It's just a flick like any other entry in the series and I can't see why it's any more retarded than your standard godzilla flick.

Nah, the muto shit and "godzilla is a good guy" shit make it a lame plot.

They don't even try to. Like what the gook actor said…

Because it isn't Godzilla. It's a weak Jurassic Park wannabe from a less than mediocre director who so desperately wanted to be the next Spielberg or James Cameron.

I don't care about your manchild formula.

It's nothing like JP, save for godzilla's feet.

Of course he is. Still better than most godzilla directors, including anno and gareth edwards though.

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It looks more like an iguana with female body and t-rex hind legs.

It's like the japanese gojira isn't a ripoff of t-rex with the outdated vertical posture. They only updated the design.

Friendly reminder that they turned down Stan fucking Winston's design for that shit

>those curves

also, it's sad because Zilla as his own thing probably would have been received a lot better, and watching the animated series really showed a lot of potential on where they could have taken it. Hell, if I remember correctly even the Japanese liked Zilla jr.

… on one hand, it's good that it wasn't wasted on the movie… on the other, that's a god tier design.

I want to fuck that lizard

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is this official concept art? If so, they made zilla oddly feminine. I wonder if it was to go with the whole egg laying thing.

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that humping scene made me think Godzilla got pregnant from the building as a kid.

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I'm surprised someone still remembers that one.

lawl

It looks very bland tbh. Definitely Stan's worst design. I prefer the final design.

But it resembles the old godzilla

don't ever let anyone tell you Meme Magic isn't real.

also some mememancer seems to have misplaced the picture I'm remembering, because I have other tsunami-related pics from 2ch but not the one my mind's eye is showing me.

this thread is quickly rekindling my interest in sculpting monsters. Shot in the dark, but would anyone happen to know if this series was uploaded anywhere or if something similar is?

it looked a lot like the picture on the right here, but I remember it being a better photoshop job than that.

this is going to drive me crazy.

so the Japs were doing meme magic before we did then?

The internet has always been doing meme magic, we just didn't realize it until recently.

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Has anybody that points out samefags ever actually been correct?

samefag

I literally can't even find anything but fakes.

give it a couple more weeks. I believe Crunchyroll will be hosting it online soon so there's no way it won't get ripped.

I do highly recommend seeing it in theaters though. The second encounter has quite a bit of weight to it on the big screen.

Europe doesn't have a distro so they can't put it in cinemas here.

ah, that sucks man. I don't imagine you have a friend with a projector or have one yourself?

if not I'm sure it will still be good, but it was a lot of fun watching it in a theater with a bunch of people and seeing a larger than life Godzilla on the big screen.

Is this a part of his genius?

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It's to bad we don't have a decent sculpting board.

what did he mean by this?
aside from the pottery is all according to keikaku

…Well, I'm glad I didn't waste my time or money to go see that. The original 1954 film remains to be the only decent Godzilla things ever produced.

either you forgot "one of" or…

what are the other good Godzilla movies? Godzilla vs. King Kong, Godzilla vs Mothra, Godzilla 2000.

That scene made me tear up.

If you like the 1954 film then this is the real sequel. I don't mind the monster wrestling movies, but I was always sad that they abandoned the themes of man dealing with this massive force of destruction they created and couldn't stop. This movie went back to that, took it to a larger scale, and added another perspective. The derpy first/second form is the calm before the storm and can still be a little disturbing.

kind of reminds me of the scene.

I saw it in a completely sold out theater. Everyone in the audience was so into the movie, they even clapped at the end. Which is pretty rare around where I live.

The night scene makes it worth the price of admission. And I really liked all the characters and the main story held my interest. I liked how even though it was political satire they still didn't let that overtake completely and make all the characters inhuman farces.

Go see it if you can. I felt like that design looked bad in the movie but really liked the idea of it in theory. Like seeing it stumble out of the water when it first walks on land is great, and kinda cool. The whole fish eye thing makes total sense since it is a deep sea dweller, a lot of thought went into the aquatic nature of it and I like that aspect.

The arrogance of man is thinking that nature is in our control

Can you give examples of meme magic we did before we realized it?

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We need more watanabe in films

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The composition and lighting are shit, there's no terrifying B/W composition and WW2 film reel charm here. There's lack of practical effects or any decent visual effects are all despite 1954 Godzilla was one of the best looking films of it's day, this looks like shit. The monster design is much too absurd to be taken seriously. It's a worse sequel than the American ones.

What made the 1954 film's B/W composition terrifying?

The fact that you had no idea what was going on because everything was so dark and grainy.

Confirmed for no idea what you're talking about. Are you watching some shitty bootleg or something? I can see just fine, and what makes it terrifying is the allusions to the actual fire bombings/nukes and overall violence of man during WW2. I've seen this whole "composition" point several times know, and it's always being tossed around like candy. Are you referring to the overall composition of the scenes or is this just another buzzword you came across? Shin Godzilla does lack a certain aesthetic charm to it in terms of cinematography, but the presence and violent nature of Godzilla is absolutely on point. The night scene everybody is talking about destroys anything the original did or anything we've seen in a Godzilla movie yet.

Up yours Toho

Would Holla Forums be up for some Godzilla movie streams? There are so many and they can be hard to get into on your own but might be fun as a group.

Yeah I'd be down for that

I thought the lighting for the human scenes was really good, and I thought the visual symbolism and overall composition of the human scenes (which is the majority and focus of the film) was really great. Also there are a lot of really cool iconic shots in this, like the one with the drones flying steady in formation towards the camera, or the deployment of the tanks. The whole yashiori plan sequence really showcased the vehicle CGI I thought. Also the story and characters more than make up for any of the less than stellar visuals earlier on. The original had a lot of similar issues in my opinion and the character scenes were nowhere near as well shot as this one.

REEEEEEE (percussion music)

Actually, I find the style adorable; it's not like it wasn't advertised from the very first trailer, that the entire point of the movie was making bullshit for the old fans.

I have yet to see the movie (europe, no torrent), but my sole complaint is that there's no Shinji in this movie. Imagine picking up a random middleschooler to beat Godzilla, then pile up on him as soon as he fails. Or maybe make him a neet, so I can relate.

That user wasn't me.

Shin Godzilla is just lacking in visuals. Even the shots that you were mentioning are horrible. The CGI is bad and the lighting doesn't help it like I said. The shots are not only for perspective, they should also support the lighting and shading, which were nonexistent here. The purpose of mise en scene is not to tell the point of the scene, but to add aesthetic qualities of the scene. So, scratch that visual symbolism argument.

Same as above. The mise en scene is too simplistic in this movie to be good.

The lighting, as seen in this production pic. They actually worked on the details of lighting, shot perspective, and film stock, unlike Anno.

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Most underrated Kaiju ever.

Love the 1954 one. I love the first scene we see him in is a typhoon symbolizing him as a force of nature.

When is this shit going online?

Symbolism can't improve cinema experience.

If anyone wants to watch the movie funimation extended the run by a couple of days.

You sound like someone who's scared of air.

Such as?
Iconic as judged by whom?
The vehicle CGI was noticeably CGI breaking immersion for me.

That music wasn't in the film, that was added later by the youtube uploader.

What's that?

Oh, I forgot about Japan's train autism.

Are you referring to one's 1st viewing in a theater? I think symbolism can add to a film in later viewings.

Just general placement of actors to show power dynamics. Lighting cues to indicate tonal shifts and so on. Nothing overt and noticeable but it added to the experience for me. I could make a full list, but that's autistic as fuck and I don't even have a quality torrent/rip to do it with.

Judged by me, and iconic might not be the right word for it, I just thought it stood out from a lot of other movies, and had some shots I had never seen in a live action film before.

The vehicle CGI was fucking fantastic, don't even know what you're talking about.

Night scene looks great, and had lots of really fantastic lighting. Rest of the stuff is during the day though, and you're right it doesn't looks as good, but godzilla never looks as good during the day in any of the movies. Once again, this movie is more about the characters, and all of the character shots have great lighting, great cinematography, and just overall are very visually interesting.

And no you idiot mise en scene is not just an aesthetic choice, it can also be a narrative one. Like this is basic film 101 get bent dork.

No, it really can't. What every movie needs is a metaphor, not symbolism. Metaphor is a lot more abstract and simile than symbolism.

They hid the abysmal CGI well, but the lighting is nothing special compared to 54 Godzilla and it's Kurosawa esque lighting.

They talk too much about TV politics, which is also the problem with 54 Godzilla, even though it redeemed itself with a lot of fantastic shots. Films like On The Beach are great because they lack the focus on political narrative, even Armageddon did it more masterfully than Shin Godzilla, creating a better balance between politics and characterization. And explain to me how the cinematography of the characters are visually interesting, because I really see nothing special about it.

Aesthetics and narrative can blend into one, but aesthetics always come first. Aesthetics are a visual metaphor, as in real life they don't tell the purpose of your emotional condition. Unlike symbolism, logically there can't be a connection between narrative and aesthetics, but a poetic link can be made between the two.

I think this movie shouldn't have any music at all. If there should be a music, then it should be an electronic music that is organic to the visual narrative of the movie.

>yfw legendary's Godzilla 2 introduces Miki Segusa

Gayness is pretty subjective, but objectively it was gritty and edgy tbh fam.

please do.

Yes, but you 'knew it was CGI.

such as?

Example please.
How is "simile" a amount? How is something more or less simile?
How is a "poetic link" constructed?
electronic music is inherently artificial.
Organic how?
54 Godzilla is commintary on the Nukes dropped on Japan. This Godzilla is commentary on the earthquake, Tsunami, and Fukushima nuclear disaster. These films are inherently political in nature, even the clothing worn in the press conferences is indicative of the event.

Define "gritty" and "edgy".

Does a rainfall hold a specific meaning beyond "it's raining?" Objectively it doesn't, but sometimes we feel that it can be tied to a certain mood or emotion occurring at the moment.

Something is simile when you can directly understand it. Like in poetry, we make direct connection between two logically different things although poetically they're similar.

By making the film flow naturally like a real life occurrence and let the audience construct their own meaning. By natural and real life, they mean that there can't be any forced harmony such as symbolism. Let everything happen without any definite meaning beyond of what appears on the screen.

But it has the capability of being an uncanny valley, unlike traditionally instrumented music that is just pure artificial sound. With electronic music, you can create sounds of wind blowing, train passing, birds chirping, rain falling, etc.

Instrumental music flows autonomously at it's own rhythm and sound. In the other hand, electronic music can be easily engineered to remain indistinct, subtle, and to flow according to the film's flow.

Yes, it's the inherent flaw of godzilla franchise. Excessive symbolism and blatant political commentary.

It seems to always be raining in sad scenes ofr Hollywood films.
Exactly my point, it would be far superior if you recorded real wind, real trains, real birds, and real rain.
I noticed the political commentary, but what is the symbolism you speak of?

What about period-pieces when knights have a family crest on their shield?,The crest is a clearly symbol but also true to real life as well.

That's what I meant. Rain and tears are usually associated with each other metaphorically, even though there is no logical connection between them. Hollywood flicks are making it too obvious though, a good writer would make the rain scenes feel like coincidence just like in real life.

But there would be no aesthetic beauty of uncanny valley. Electronic music is superior to real sound effects because they're flawed and easily engineered to fit our vision. Like in Stalker, the passing train sound effect subtly plays Bethoveen's 9th Symphony in a disturbing way.

It's practically impossible for instrumental music to sound indistinct and subtle. They're a lot harder to "shape". Synthesizers in the other hand provide unlimited potential.

Force of nature symbolism, the dangers of nuclear symbolism, etc.

Humans do communicate through symbols, but this is art we are talking about. An artist must try his best to destroy and transcend all barriers of symbols in order to give his art a non banal meaning for his audience.

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Here's a better quality version that I made after filming the final scene at the encore showing.

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Still can't tell what the fuck it is.

It's a bunch of skeletons sticking out of Godzillas tail. Since it's Anno, it's probably the souls of his victims or some shit.

I think it works pretty well. It's a perfectly disturbing image and leaves enough to the viewers imagination to be unsettling.

I think they were babies and the tail served as a egg sac, like spiders, thats why they had that metal clink. As for the boat people, 1 commited willing suicide, because of the left behind shoes, and they never stated how big the crew was, wether justs the professor, or a few people. The bot was probably only a no more than 5 person boat. It was tiny.

It wasn't generic moeblob

How come the hollywood godzilla looks so much better?

The Hollywood Godzilla looks fucking awful, what are you on about? This one looks actually scary, that one looks like a teddy bear.

Um I guess that's one way to describe them

Fixed.

98 Godzilla is still the best looking one. Not overdesigned but not bland like the 2014 either. It also stays true to the spirit of the original design by being inspired by theropod dinosaur posture.

I still wish they didn't call him godzilla. He's a fine monster but he isn't godzilla he doesn't act or behave like him.

Did'nt the Nip's make fun of that Godzilla for being fat?

It was three guys on 2ch that said it and everyone assumed that everybody in Japan made fun of it just based on those three people.

Source?

Thats weird since Godzilla has been pretty chunky since the Heisei series.

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I'm not sure if I can find it now. It was before 4chan had the purge.

It's a much more realistic portrayal of godzilla. It behaves like an actual animal, like looking for breeding grounds and protecting her young. I think it's a lot better than the symbolism shit we get in japzilla tbqh.

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You're both wrong.

Does Tripsdubs beat quads?

What purge?

Can you give examples of films that make such scenes feel like coincidences?
Stalker's soundscape broke the 4th wall for me. I don't like to feel like I'm watching a film. I don't understand how you could find beauty in the uncanny valley.
Was the ending scene the only time it was played?
What about shaping a scene around a previously recorded score in the editing and mixing rooms. Stalker's last scene seems to have been shaped around a previous recording of Beethoven's 9th.
how can a symbol be a barrier?

Andrei Rublev, the rain and horses have no inherent meaning or relevancy to the plot, yet they appear frequently and seem to fit the mood. Rain and drizzle in Stalker too.

Like what you said about the breaking the 4th wall thing. This is the psychologically captivating feeling of when truthfulness and artistic distortion merge into one. Mona Lisa's smile can be categorized into this uncanny valley aesthetic, it's beauty is a mystery.

It was played in the opening scene too, when the Stalker and his family were sleeping and the glass moved.

The train sound was made in synthesizer and you can barely hear the music.

You can't instantly understand it's meaning. It's a puzzle rather than an aesthetic.

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When in doubt, poker rules apply.

Does a four of a kind beat 3 of a kind and 2 pairs?

Four of a kind beats a full house. So no.

Exactly.

Bunch of faggy bullshit.

Define "faggy".

You want to know why Toho called 98 Godzilla "zilla"? Because it took the "God" out of "Godzilla."
TL;DR You have shit taste

No, they took out the gorilla out of gojira, which makes sense because it's not bulky at all.

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Is that a real movie or some fan drawing? Still nice drawing user.

It was a promotion Image posted too twitter and the official Shin Godzilla website. They even have shirts. Found some more.

shin-godzilla.jp/
shin-godzilla.jp/gvse/

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Thank you user these pics are awesome.

Wow, autistic.

You're welcome.

How so?

Where's a torrent?

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Torrent: never ever

lol shinji
Holy shit that's cool
dammit Japan
Holy shit that's cool

I've seen images in that artstyle drawn by Anno's wife, did she draw that?
Want.png

pretty cool tbh fampai

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