>15,860 HPBravo Miyazaki - a true video game visionary

>>507939073Then you have to time them nearly perfectly for 10 or 15 minutes straight.The pacing of DS3 just gets fucked up with some of these bosses.

>>507939378large health doesn't matter when the attack pattern is easy to deal with

Git gud fag

>>507938709pestilent mercury

>>507938709You fucking suck. You are dog shit. Stop playing video games.

>>507939540yeah the same case in midir, OP is just a retard.

>>507939378>>507939540*farts in your general direction*

I love this skinny little heretic like you wouldn't believe!

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>>507939378Don't you do a billion damage in dark souls 2

>>507938709How bad are you?I got it first try (although I finished with 0 estus and 2hp left)Your fault for not having a decent build or weapon

>>507940449only if you are a sorcerer or overleveled bastard. when i fought this dude he does like 1000000 damage to you on default.

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>>507939378Player damage is much higher in DaS2 than it is in DaS3.So that 19,000 hp isnt as big of a number as Midir.Dark Souls 2 Fume UGS - 430 base AR w/ S/D scalingDark Souls 3 Fume UGS - 260 base AR (lmao) w/ S/E scaling

>>507940449Yes, player damage is much higher in DaS2 than 3.So big HP pools in 2 mean less.

>>507940695you wouldnt normally have the fume UGS when fighting the ancient dragon lol

>>507939540It one hit kills.

>>507940695FUGS ends up doing more damage in DS3 because scaling is worthless in DS2.

>>507940786Why wouldn't you?>>507940898No

>>507940992Check on soulsplanner, dummy

>>507940992why would i have the fume knights sword when you can easily get to the dragon area by chance way before you are meant to fight the fume knight?

>>507941021Go hit Midir in the head with Fume UGS with 99 str, then go hit Ancient Dragon with Fume UGS and 99 and tell me which does more damage

>>507938709He was playing too much monster hunter

>>507941257Why would you fight Ancient Dragon upon arrival to the Shrine?Also you can actually go to Fume Knight much sooner in both Scholar and Vanilla than you can go to Dragon Shrine

>>507939427>perfectlyThere's a lot of room for error really, and he's easy to get away from for some healing too. Not much pressure on you in this fight - personally, when I first fought him I had a feeling of "wow yeah this is impossible" more than with any other boss in the whole series, which makes it all the more satisfying to beat him again and again later.

>>507938709Did he really have that much health? I played through the DLC once and it was on NG+3. Didn't seem that long a fight, or hard for that matter. The fight with the ice bitch and his friend was much harder.

>>507941763His hp doesn't scale super high in more cycles.He starts with very high HP and scales slowly up

>>507939427>10 or 15 minutesWhat kind of fucked up build are you playing to make it take that long

>>507938709Hes not even hard just stay in front of him

>>507942249Is that why another dragon, Seath, remains pretty easy on every playthrough?Because he's scaleless?

>>507942286Shut up, my SL1 broken straight sword build is perfectly valid

>>507940583he cute

>>507938709Friede is worse than this slow ass shit dragonI did struggle on Midir for sure, but not nearly as frustrating as Friede was Ive also heard that Friede is a BB boss of sorts, and I havent played BB yet, am I in for a world of hurt here?

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>>507940583you just know

>>507940583cute

>>507938709blind took me over 20 attempts for fred and gale but one shot midir

>>507939745I play melee only.

>>507940507lvl ~ 110strength dex stamina vigor+10 longsword refined (great scaling with strength and dex) - does about 450 damage.

>>507942670battle mages are still melee

>>507940829I think you can cheese the Ancient Dragon though. I haven't seen a cheese Midir video.

>>507939540It does when you have to cycle though the same pattern of dodge/roll > attack boring shit for 15 minutes straight.

>>507942427Friede is more chaotic than Midir because of the Father's stomping and her AOE attacks.Midir is hard because figuring out which way to dodge takes a while and his laser AOE is an instant kill. YOU HAVE to dodge them perfectly or run like mad to stay under his legs.Midir wouldn't be that tough if his HP was a bit lower. I got him down to like 25% health a lot, but it took a while to finish him off.I like good bosses, but some of them are just too fucking long. I never had those issues in DS1.

>>507942858I keep my int and faith really low.

>>507938709the orphan of kos has nearly 20k hp

>>507943093Yes, but some bosses are more forgiving with the timing and roll direction.eh, I never really like the way Dark Souls games handle dragon fights - too much waiting around and rolling around waiting for it to land and present itself for an attack.

>>507943403It's all relative to how much damage you can do.My weapon was doing about 450 physical... that's over 40 good wacks at a dragon that won't stand the fuck still.

>>507938709Gael has a similar amount of health

>>507943623Gael is a much more fun and fair fight than Midir, but Midir is the harder fight by miles so it feels worse with Midir

>>507943623Depends on the move set if he's hard or not... I haven't gotten to him yet.

>>507938709it's a secret boss for the last DLC for the last Dark Souls game; they wanted to make it a big challenge for veterans

>>507942427Some of her attacks are indeed resemble to a boss in BB Lady Maria, but it's not to the "reskin" degree that the faggots on Holla Forums usually seethe about

>>507943591>>507943698I don't really see the problem with the hp, in practice they are even less because one third goes away with the finisher, the problem comes from the dr that both midir and gael have on all their body except the head

>>507938709>>507939216>>507939427>>507942427Become proficient.

>>507942427In Bloodborne you're much quicker, a lot of the bitching about Friede was that she was a Bloodborne boss in a game with Dark Souls movement. I thought the complaints were a bit over the top though, she was as tough as you'd expect for the final boss of a DLC.

>>507944096conceptually it's a reskin, fast dual blade attacks that leave aoe trails with her weakness being lack of poise, on top of that they slapped priscilla and smough there too

That's like what, 20-30 hits with a lightning buffed LKUGS? Not too bad

>>507944613>conceptually it's a reskinwhat the fuck am i reading

>>507942427Friede at least is a fun fight, the camera on Midir makes me want to drop kick the TV.

>>507945129a reverse reskin, the actual skin is different but the rest is the same

Ayo wandt the fuckers health like 50k if you were on NG+?I was barely able to beat him with that bitch alive.I ended up cheesing it using that FROZEN MIST JUTSU, which eats him alive.Took them like 3 weeks to nerf him.

>>507942365Midir dies pretty quickly even on SL1, dragonslayer axe shreds him.His HP count is irrelevant since he takes double damage to the head and can be riposted for ~20% health.

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>>507941257The Ancient Dragon is a peaceful NPC, retard.

>>507942427Yeah friede is know as the hardest boss in vidya history for a good reason.Even on my other alts i still have a tough time dealing with her.

>>507942427Friede literally gets stunlocked half the fight in all forms if you spam r1 with a decent weapon.

All I can hear is sound of my Blessed Dragonslayer's Axe and Blessed Lothric Knight Greatsword.

>>507938709I don't see what's wrong? It's only 100 hits :)

>>507945375The only "conceptual reskin" that you mentioned about is Maria's jumping attack and one or two fire attack, also a lot of bosses in dark souls and bb use the same weapons and have the same double gimmick and hundred of games out there are the same like that, the best you can say about it is inspired by, not "conceptual reskin"

>>507938709>not going morion blade and tearstone ring on him without taking any dmgpleb

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>>507943403>Comparing HP values across 2 different gamesCome on now

>>507942339Underrated

>>507938709I think Midir was one of the better dragon fights

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>hurr durr gut gidI DID THAT'S WHY I FIND THE FIGHT A MASSIVE FUCKING SLOG THAT ISN'T EVEN FUN TO PLAY AND LASTS WAY TOO LONG

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>>507938709by the time you reach him, you should be doing like 300+ damage per attack, more if you use buffs or, like a real man, you two hand your weapons. cry more about it desu, you need to hit him maybe 50 times max before he's defeated, and he only has one or two really dangerous attacks that can one shot you (provided you're at a high enough level to avoid taking boatloads of damage, anywhere around lv80+)

Test

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>>507946373His godzilla laser was cool as hell

>>507945909She stuns easily but not for long, at some point she'll just breakthrough>>507946039I used the greataxe that the Dragonslayer armor dropped>big damage with the weapon artbasado

>>507946373It was. The biggest problem with fuckhuge bosses in games is that the camera goes to shit and you get stuck in their body, but Midir usually plants itself in such a way that you're most advantaged by staying in a reasonable position.I love Bloodborne but so many of the bigger bosses have the issue where the camera spergs out and you roll blind like Ebrietas and Camerabeast. They sorted it out with Ludwig though.

>>507938709Never bothered learning him solo, since the run back to him takes like 80 seconds + loading time.Also i like to roleplay in these games and a bandit knife does jack shit against him, so i always summoned.And here's a big redpill: Midir is made and designed for summoning. No better feeling then celebrating with your bros after slaying that huge dragon together.

Those people who have no complaints about Midir probably beat him with pestilent mist.

>deal 450 per hit with my UGS>account for the fact that u can riposte at 1/3 health>just over 20 hits on his headseems fine to me

>>507946715I beat him with my big sword and thought it was fun, I thought the fight would be a huge pain in the ass but it only ended up taking like 5 tries

The first and only time I ever fought and beat Midir was on NG++.I think the people who call bosses like Midir easy never bothered to go to NG+ and just make new characters endlessly.

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>>507946412The fight is only a massive slog if you're a massive shitter who can't grasp the concept of HITTING THE DRAGON ON THE FUCKING HEAD where he takes double damage.>>507946701>Midir is made and designed for summoningThis is literally the opposite of truth, coming from someone who spent hours fighting him as a summon. He become so much more frantic in coop, and survivabilty rate for hosts is very low.

>>507938709Just bonk him on the head, he takes like triple damage there. And if you’re still struggling then use a lightning weapon, he’s retard level weak to lightning. I beat him on my first try yet on every subsequent playthrough he’s fucked me raw repeatedly.

>>507945636>raw DSAWhy even do an SL 1 run at that point?

>>507946412If you got good it wouldnt last long, its like most chunky souls bosses, if you are good the fight lasts a couple of minutes at best, if you suck it takes 10 minutes at minimum.Some people beat Isshin by hitting and running away, they took 20 minutes to beat himOthers deflected his shit, it took them 2 minutes.git gud

>>507938709Took me 25 minutes with MLGS because of mresist. was hitting his head for 200s. midir is very simple but the fight takes a long time since theres not many windows to attack. compared to Gael who has similar health but you can deal damage to him way faster since hes always near you and doesnt one shot you. also 20% of midirs HP is pretty much free damage at the end

>>507942427Play with a warrior = pain in the assPlay with a sorcerer = killed on 1st tryI fucking hate that. It's not about the equipment you use; it's all about the class you choose.

>>507946569>She stuns easily but not for long, at some point she'll just breakthroughYou missed out on a basic mechanic in Dark Souls 3 (which is actually a mechanic from Demon's Souls). You have to learn how to delay your R1s so that the boss "gets out" of your spam only to get caught on your delayed attack.

Best answer is Wolf Knight Greatsword if you are a quality build. Blessed LKGS/DSA for faith builds, Pestilent Mist for sorcerers. Pyros need to respec or use Pestilent Mist tough.

>>507947013For fun? Why would you not use the best tools available to you?

>>507946926I AM NOT A PATIENT MAN

>>507939378This guy has much simpler attack patterns despite all his attacks being one hit kills unless you’re way over-levelled, you do more damage by default in 2 hence the higher HP on enemies, and there’s even a ring that nullifies damage taken from behind that affords you a few fuckups against his OHKOs (and it doesn’t disappear after breaking, you can repair it as much as you want). Ancient Dragon fucking sucks compared to Midir but comparatively that extra 4K HP is meaningless since he goes down way faster than Midir.

>be Dark build using either chaos or dark infusion >Gael and Mildr both resist my main damage typesJUST

>>507938709He loses a fourth of his health to a scripted riposte

>>507947098>midir is very simple but the fight takes a long time since theres not many windows to attack.Not to mention he has a habit of running ALL the way across the entire massive boss arena.

>>507947368>be pyromancer build using demon's scarlol

>>507946623yes that's a general problem in their games, I had the same thing happen with a few bosses in Sekiro, when you are against the wall the camera sometimes spergs out on you

>>507942427About 50% of her attacks in the final phase are ripped directly from Lady Maria in the Bloodborne DLC. Her moves in the first and second phase are new, not that she has many in those phases.

>>507947118I was using Vordt's mace and that shit anhiliates my stamina after 3 times despite shitting damage, even if I delay I don't regain enough stamina to stunlock Friede

>>507938709i only ever cheese him with mercury clouds. fuck that noise.

>>507947368>be Dark build using either chaos or dark infusion >>507947195>Pyros need to respec or use Pestilent Mist tough.My main build is a Pyromancer but since I had 45 Dex for cast speed anyway I just used a Washing Pole and buffed it with Gold Pine

It gives you a free visceral to the head at like 20% though

>>507938709Best DS3 boss, actually had to learn his pattern instead of just rolling on reaction.

>>507938709el video kojima de los videojuegos

>>507947674>you can't react to that boss' attacksThat literally sounds like the opposite of good design.

>>507940829You really just have to stack up fire resistance and you'll be fine.

>>507947368Uss sunlight blade/darkmoon blade

I may be a dirty mage, but the screenshot is great.

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>>507947790of course you can, are you retarded? how else would that work?

>>507938709Midir is a 100% predictable boss fight. Once you learn his move set he's a cakewalk.

>>507946715Beat him twice with two different build, first was strenght build, second was faith build, both alone and no summon, you are just an impatient shitter with no dedication and willingness to learn so you blame it all on a fucking spell

there are no good boss fights in soulsborne that are "big monster thing"only humanoid fights are good

>>507938709youtu.be/0Zis0ljqkYk

>>507938709>stay in front of his head>can hit the head for bonus damage>can see every tell he does for his attacks>can now easily roll back when he swipes for free punishes after his combo ends>can EASILY avoid the breath, beam, and humanity attack>can punish the command grab hard>can see the tell for the insta chargeThis fight is not hard. Stop going under him like a retard and bop his nose.

>>507946623>They sorted it out with Ludwig thoughEx-fucking-cuze me?

>>507948008>he doesn’t think Ludwig was the tightest shitI’m talkin’ both phases.

>>507948021>red tearstone ring

>>507948021Bull fucking shit.

>>507948149Not him but I usually don't unlock against Ludwig unless he does that one jumping attack in the first phase (which is only because the game forcibly unlocks you)

>>507948210ludwig and m'anus are finethe others? no

>>507948315Not that guy but i like some big monsters bosses Abhorrant beast is cool, Demon Prince is cool, Guardian Ape is cool, etc...Normal sized ones like Sanctuary Guardian are cool too and i honestly never had a problem with any of the 3 dlc dragons, they are all nice with one annoying thing about them, but thats valid for a bunch of other bosses i like.

>loses more than 30% of his hp from the riposte and the free hits you can get in before and after itAnyone complaining about his health pool is most likely a faggot who spent 20 minutes chipping at his toes thinking it was the intended way.

>>507948008>>507948315Abhorrent Beast.Ebrietas.Amelia.Bloodstarved Beast.Basically any beast fight aside Paarl and BLB

>>507949580Love fighting abhorrent beast, bloodstained beast is annoying poison cloud gimmick + parrying

>>507938709>Best boss of Dark Souls 3>15,860 HPYou're right, he could have used more HP.

>>507949580Amelia suffers from camera cancer, thankfully she isnt hard enough where this is an issue but having your screen filled with fur is annoying, Ebrietas on the other hand is a terminal case, the best way to damage her and be safe is being behind her and when you do that all you see is squid ass.BSB is mediocre and medium sized while Abhorrent is also medium sized but a pretty good fight (such a crime to be stuck in chalices and side quests while fucking BSB and Paarl are main game).>Basically any beast fight aside Paarl and BLBCleric's camera also sucks thanks to the tiny bridge but its the same as Amelia, too easy to be an issue, Laurence though...

>>507939540>>507940449>>507940695Kek, ds2 faggots are quick for rebuttals

>>507946412So you're lying. Ok.

>>507938709Try to stay in front of his head, if he does his fire fly-by run away and to the right. You'll need to memorize his 4 melee combos and be satisfied with 1-2 hits to his head. If your damage output is consistent enough he literally breaths out his soul for a moment and you can free kill him.

>Fight him first time>Struggle so much and genuinley think he's the hardest boss in the dlc>Years later do another solo playthrough with friends>First try his scaly ass with the GreatswordSo fucking satisfying ngl.

>>507947875>crown of ducksshame

>>507940695I used the Dragonslayer greataxe and it fucking melted him. After beating him once with Friede's scythe it was pretty hilarious.

>>507948315Demon Prince is overall the most solid fight of its respective game and other fights ought to be judged against it

>NK needed 4x HP just to actually stand a chance against Midir>Gael needed phase 2 right from the start to kill Midir>only Yhorm can stand up to Midir in an even matchDragons are fucking scary

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>>507951084>solo playthrough>with friendsthe absolute brain rot of a summoning-reliant scrub

>>507951112Well, it's not recommended to wear it while you're fighting enemies such as Crystal Mage lol. Jesus Christ, I hate that boss.

>>507951465I played a pure int build on release and I'm pretty sure I had to use a bandit's knife for not-pinwheel

>>507951447not him but>reee stop using a feature the game was designed around

>>507951447I think he meant they were all soloing concurrently

Who were the bosses that you struggled with the most, lads?

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>>507951680>designed aroundthat's a bit of a leap isn't it, "included" does not equate to "designed around"

tfw no midir bf

>>507951839Orphan of Kos all the other didnt give me nearly as much trouble.

>>507951839Predictable ones really, Friede, Midir, Orphan

>>507951839Defiled Loran Darkbeast. Seriously, fuck that shit. I barely even made it through with summons(they all died).

>>507947118>You missed out on a basic mechanic in Dark Souls 3 (which is actually a mechanic from Demon's Souls)explain?

>>507951839Midir at first, but after a few tries there was a "click" point at which it became easy.Kos took a while, and still takes a few tries. The hardest boss without a doubt is Lawrence, especially on later play throughs (i first fought him on NG+ 4) Not to mention the fact that it's such a boring uninspired boss (reskin of an earlier boss with another boss' moves thrown in, PLUS ridiculous AOE fire attacks all over the shop) that fighting him doesn't feel fun and beating him offers zero reward. Hardest boss is also the worst in the whole of fromsoft's catalogue.

>>507951648One user... (sorry for bad english, am ESL)Let's start this again. I had a short discussion with one user on Holla Forums and he/she trold me that playing pure INT in DS3 was kinda boring. Or annoying. I can't remember which term he used, but long story short - he/she wasn't having fun. Trying INT build after the same run in DS1 and DS2 was definitely a different experience because>magic charges vs FPIt wasn't that hard, but I gotta say, Farron Flashsword helped a lot. Without that spell I'd probably have to run to bonfires more often. (to recharge ashen flasks, of course)>>507951839From my latest (sorcerer) run: Crystal Sage, Lothric Faggots and that wolf in Ariandel DLC.

>>507951839The chalice dungeon giant in BB with the spinning chains, but I think I got to him a little early

>>507947875lv 60 intlv 1 character creation

>>507939427I did it in 8 minutes, whats your hang-up with the fight?

>>507942427Honestly I fear Gael more than her.

>>507952108>>507952141The struggle against these two was real until going full arcane and using Hunters Tools. If you even feel like pushing bosses faces into the dust you should go back and just cheese them with Blacksky Eye or Executioner Glove from where they can't reach you. They may not be kin but it still helps keep a good distance, which is especially useful in Laurence's final stage.This goes doubly for bosses that are actually kin, like Defiled Amygdala.

das3 > shitborne

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>>507952669Das3 = Bloodborne :)

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>>507952814sometimes Das3 > Bloodbornesometimes Bloodborne > Das3 it varies :D

>>507947080I did a little of both really, mostly because due to the nature of his fight I learned his first phase much better than his last.

>>507947419Almost all of his attacks tire his dumb ass out, leaving you plenty of windows to bop him on his soft head.

>no mention of the fact that the last 5th of his HP gets deleted by a semi-scripted stagger and crit animationIn reality his HP is closer to 12k or so.

>>507952669Is your feminine penis cut or natural?

>>507951368He is probably the closest thing that we had to an everlasting dragon (unless you consider Kalameet one which i dont remember if he is).

>>507952225Costing both FP and Stamina is really annoying for spells compared to melee. Spells like Soul Greatsword, Pestilent Mist, and White Dragon Breath give it enough variety to be fun though. You can also just do 40 INT Dark spells with the murk staff but that's better for pairing with a melee weapon since there are like 3 actual dark sorceries at all

>>507952669>playstation>white skinsomething's wrong herealso stop doing that thing with your sleeves

>>507938709Just stay in front of his head. At no point should you be underneath him. Can be killed in under 2 mins and I’m not even good at these games

>>507951839Gael for DS3, Ludwig for BB (only boss that made me run out of bloodvials)First Owl in Sekiro (before I learned to be aggressive)Isshin was tough too, but he never felt undoable like Owl did at first.

>>507952860Then you probably took something in-between. Like i said, the better you get at these fights, the faster the bosses absolutely melt in your hands. Holla Forums needs to realize these bosses werent balanced for good players, but for stubborn casuals that stay with the game until they get good or brute force it, its the reason why after you beat one of the games the others become really easy.

>>507938709Just don't get hit? Beat him first try. He telegraphs his attacks quite a bit, just slowly chip away at his bloated health bar.

What are the most OP builds in DS3?

>>507953020>In reality his HP is closer to 12k or soHis effective health is half of that if you're hitting the head.

>>507953308Friede and Demon of Hatred did feel easy due to Bloodborne training.

>>507951839Pope Sillyman and Aldrich. Honorable mention to 4 Kings back when I first played DaS1

>>507939427>PacingYou making a YouTube video essay? Fuck off.

>>507953401Oh definitely. But whenever people bitch about his HP nobody ever mentions the big visceral attack thing at the end of the fight.

>>507953484some folks miss the chance to get it. Poor them.>>507953401I'd say its more like his HP is effectively doubled if you hit anything but the head.

>>507953432Yeah, at worst you get a bump of difficulty or 2 while adapting to the new game, but any veteran after getting their groove going will breeze through it.Its a shame that we will never get the equivalent of SMB2JP or Kaizo Mario for a souls game, something actually designed with veterans in mind, oh well at least we can pretend with sl1 and wacky challenge runs.

>>507938709I legit had 0 problems with this boss as a faith caster. I had way more difficulty soloing the twin demon fight in the same dlc.

>>507939378Now THIS was a dragon boss. Get hit by just one of his abilities/mechanics and you're pretty much dead.

>>507940583Small sized dragons are cute af.

>>507953080The problem is... I'm so used to pure INT characters now, I'll probably suck a massive dick when I turn on Lord of the Fallen and The Surge lol. They were on sale, so.... I had to buy them.

>>507942427Friede is extremely weak to bleed, use the tools you have instead of repeatedly beating your head against a wall. This is literally the 3rd game in the series, you should know this by now.

>>507942427>boss that can be backstabbed and parried>hard

>>507942427>SL1 Friedethe worst thing I have ever done in a game

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>>507954087I've never tried faith character. Is pure faith run (no weapons) even possible?

>>507940583>*ting* *ting* *ting* *ting*>*inhale* REEEEEEEE>*ting* *ting* *ting* *ting*>*INHALE* REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>507954410>That one girl who bullied Gundyr with blind parries.

>>507945786>Yeah friede is know as the hardest boss in vidya history for a good reason.not by a long shot

>>507954513no, your first damaging miracle is lightning spear on the bridge above farron keep.Being a spearchucker is kinda fun though, you can stack a silly amount of buffs

>>507954513Oh of course, pure faith builds have been a thing since forever. You should find a low requirement melee weapon you're comfortable using in a pinch though. I myself have used the estoc since ds1 and stand by it as a solid caster weapon. You'll have to put a 1 or 2 points into dex but thats about it. In DS3 I really like using the DLC flail, not just for the buff it gives with its special attack but also because it staggers the shit out of anything it touches.

>>507954759Apparently I can't read, sorry.

>>507954513You need to use the starting mace for a while, until you can get to Farron Keep and get Lightning spear.Other than that it's doable; Lightning Spear + Lightning Stake will take you quite far already, and you can get Dorhy's Gnawing to complement you spell set

>>507943253>his laser AOE is an instant killIf you have 40 vigor and ember it doesn't one shot even naked.

>>507953042kalameet is an everlasting dragonThere's also that dragon in ash lake, but that might have been just a creation of Seath

>>507948315You laugh but Manus is a portmanteau of Manu and Anus (Latin for ring).

>>507954982The one in the lake is just a close descendant, Midir is 2nd generation.>kalameet is an everlasting dragonMan he sure as fuck doesnt look like one.

>>507940583Source?

>>507954745>>507954759>>507954869Thanks for replies, anons. It kinda sucks you need to wait until Farron Keep.

>>507954869My lineup as of TRC was Lightning Stake, Sunlight Spear, Lightning Arrow, Great Heal, Darkmoon BladeBuffed up with Sunlight Straightsword Oath and Lothric Banner it's pretty shiny

>>507951839Manus the Slap-Happy Spastic Gorilla in DS1.Raime the Coping Seethe Knight in DS2.Friede the Teleports-Behind-U-Nothing-Personnel Edgelady in DS3.All three are among my favourites. Even Friede after my second playthrough.

>>507954186I don't know what you're talking about, it's one of the worst dragon bosses ever. The fight is just boring and not engaging at all.

>>507938709The fight was just a slog thbq. Kalameet and Sinh were more funCall me a boomer but the fights in 3 felt too fast/long for my liking. Every boss having 2 and 3 phases got old fast

>>507956296>every bosstwo bosses in the dlc did. Unless you're counting the gravetender and wolf in Ariandel? Gael's hardly count when it's still all part of the same healthbar.

>>507954512BL4 Laurence/Kos was harder desu

>>507956603Gael's count most of all given that his moveset changes on a new phase more than any boss in from software's history.

>>507956603Almost every boss in Dark Souls 3 had at least two phases in the same health bar you jack ass. And The Nameless King had straight up two health bars

>>507951839FRC chalice bosses easily

>>507956603nameless king, friede, twin princes, abyss watchers, all did the "well I'm not actually dead, here is phase two". Tbqh the only one that's really bad is Friede in that regard but I think they reused this trope a lot.

>>507956603Gael is the worst boss in history, with a million hp, so he should xount

>>507956725SwordSaint Isshin.

>>507956784That first bit is nothing more than a warm up, if you use a single estus there you're beyond hope>>507956725Yes but they don't draw out the fight anymore longer than it would be if it was all the same phase, which the post I'm replying to seemed to be complaining about

>>507952669I like DS3 more than most people, but anyone who says it's better than bloodborne just hasn't played BBBB is so much better. I wish they would port it to PC already. it's one of the only games I own for this stupid console

>>507957071>worst boss in history I mean I'm not one of his super fans like some people who claim he's the best boss ever, but the worst? Are you sure you think that?

>>507938709>15,860 HPHow do you think they come up with these numbers?I mean they obviously do some testing and look at how many hits it would take with a certain loadout but still. Why 15,860 instead of 15,500 for example?

>>507952669Stupid tranny

>>507957095changes less than gael. Your point?

>>507942898Pestilent Mist.

>>507951839>DeSFlamelurker, very tough as melee>DaSManus, those dark magics in the end are hard to avoid>DaS2Only the Ancient Dragon gave me serious trouble tbqh but he's easy, only difficult thing is his OHKOs. Fume is probably the hardest "traditional" boss, first time I killed him I remember having no HP and he had like 10% left so I cheesed him with a bow>BBOrphan of Kos is the toughest boss in the franchise, in his 3rd phase he's way too fucking fast. Defiled bosses are also difficult but they're cheap as fuck (OHKOs like the ancient dragon)>DaS3Midir easily, his laser beam killed me like 10 times>SekiroSword Saint is tough as fuck, you gotta do a lot of things right to kill him

>>507957334His fight is 4 phasesGael is 3 phases.

>>507957181It's probably a multiple of, say, the street giants or ringed knights, who themselves are multiples of something like darkwraiths or ghru who themselves are multiples of hollow undead.

>>507957434Correct.And his moveset in those phases is 70% the same moves as in the previous phase.Gael, however, shares not even a single move across the entirety of his phases.I wasn't discussing number of phases, I was discussing how significantly the moveset changes, you fucking dumbass.

>>507942479I think Midir is female

>>507957536>Gael, however, shares not even a single move across the entirety of his phases.Phase 2 and 3 of Gael are entirely identical except for the addition of the soul orb -> leap attack.How disingenuous can you be?

>>507938709>>507939378Both are shit fights, but ancient dragon is more shit, however pre nerf ancient dragon was kinda interesting just because of how stupid it was. It's a shame it's impossible to fight that version of Ancient Dragon unless you have a ps3/xbox360 version of the base game and don't patch it.

>>507951839Nameless King, Champion Gundyr, Laurence, Ludwig, goddamn Watchdog of the Old Lords

>>507951839Darklurker and twin tigers in DS2. I will never beat them, and I don't care. That game is shit and I don't care about it anymore.

>>507957536>Gael, however, shares not even a single move across the entirety of his phases.lol

>>507951839Cleared every fight BL4/SL1 EXCEPT 2Kats from DaS2.I want to be able to say "Yeah, I killed all Soulsborne bosses without leveling:" but I fucking cant because I have to add "except 2kat from ds2"I lost my save data building a new computer and so I have to start over a SL1 run and I don't know a lick about Dx11 SoFTS to do a decent run. I'll probably just stick with Dx9 SoFTS.

>>507951839>Demon'sBosses were the easy part desu>Ds1Manus>Ds2Darklurker in base game, Fume Knight in dlc>BBNothing but I haven't played the dlc yet>Ds3Pontiff and Nameless King>SekiroIsshin

>>507938709>>507939216Why don't you do MHW and try Lunastra then. I've beaten Midir solo on NG+7, many ways to do that. If you want to cheese then there's Pestilent Mist or Lightning Arrow + weapons to face. I've never bothered learning his moveset because it's not necessary. All you really need to watch out for is the fucking lightshow and the "what looks like melee but is actually AoE flame faster than you can run out of the way" bullshit. Still, a few tries and I beat him every time. Even fucking Gael NG+7 took like 10 tries, not a bad deal.But Lunastra in MHW? Not the AT version, the regular one. There's a thing that has three times Midir's relative HP. Is small, so fucking fast she can be on the other side of the arena while you shoot her in the ass, and then she can turn, rush over to you, and take 80% of your hp faster than you could fire another bullet. All that in the span of ONE fucking shot. Not to mention she constantly burns AoE for massive dots all over the fucking place and has a literal I win button that for over the span of 10-15 seconds or so just kills everything in a 360 degree, 100m radius (does so much dmg through block that's not an option either).I've never had to do any boss for dozens of times before. Midir? Pontiff? Everything in DS3 is a fucking joke compared to MHW solo in general, especially cheap fucks like that. Not to mention you need to waste so much money, prep time and ingredients to even try that you're going bankrupt just playing the fucking game without grinding extra every other match.

>>507958168just use the hammer

>>507958168>gem wind resist>gem heat proof or use fire blanket>use baby blanketWoooow so hard.Why do you mhfags always try to hype mh as something challenging and difficult. Especially when world was designed around being marketable to the lowest common denominator.

>>507954904This. His stagger-inducing fire breath is leagues worse.

>>507958307>Especially when world was designed around being marketable to the lowest common denominator.world has the hardest fights in the series

>>507940583>play the webm>hear tings outside my house that match perfectly with the hammer

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>>507958168I actually struggle quite a bit on Souls games on some of the most retarded shit but I can tell you Lunastra is a breeze you just need to take cool drinks and astera jerky as well as a fire mantle and you're gucci

>>507958403EX Boltreaver and Bloodbath are harder than anything your game has to offerHell MHW has nothing over GQ140 GarugaOr even the Dual Rajang arena quest in FUMHW 's equivalent of the 2X Rajang is conveniently hold the 2nd one off until the first one is almost dead instead of throwing both at you at once.

Are there any Souls bosses you haven't killed yet lads? For me it's 3:>Lud and ZallenAttempted it once, realized its not worth it. The frigid outskirts were too awful.>Loran DarkbeastDarkbeast Paarl is an atrocious boss, and this was basically a jacked up version of him. Tried like 5 times, got my ass handed and gave up. The chalice dungeons overall were terrible and a slog.>Gravetender and greatwolfOnly boss I haven't even faced. Didn't enjoy AoA at all, I got eaten by the wolves before like 2 times and didn't bother checking the entire area out.Also I haven't faced Emma and Old man Isshin from Sekiro but I may do it someday.

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>>507951839Dancer & Friede

>>507958720Sword Saint Isshin was the only boss of any souls like game I didn't beat. Sekiro was such an uphill slog that after Demon of Hatred I just wasn't having fun anymore

>>507951839Laurence, the First Vicar. I killed Orphan on my first try but it took me like 20+ tries to put down that screaming son of a bitch.

>>507958720>Also I haven't faced Emma and Old man Isshin from Sekiro but I may do it someday.Sekiro isn't a Souls game just because you died a few times and/or because it was made by From Soft. Should we call Tenchu and Ninja Blade ''Souls games'', too?

>>507958589>Dual Rajang arena questThe one that has dual F. Rajang is hard, but can be cheesed.With Final Invitation you can quickly burst down first Rajang with trap spam then deal with the second one.

>>507959094Tell that to Lobosjr

>>507959094well I see many people struggling with sekiro bosses so thought I might add it

>>507959245Fair enough.

>>507958307>Suggests using endgame items I don't have>"Why do you mhfags always try to hype mh as something challenging and difficult"I'm not a MHW fag, only reason I play it is corona and nothing else to do. And it IS insanely hard. Too fucking hard, to the point of me considering quitting. The movements are inredibly simple. Like with a Bow, you have like 3 moves and 3 combos worth shit, all you do is rinse repeat them. With HBG? Literally one fucking move, besides the special. It has unrewardingly stupid simple controls making the gameplay boring, and at the same time demands fucking absolute, intimate knowledge of every single monster with 0.1 second perfect timing, because most of the shit can effectively 1-shot you with their constant fucking stunlocks.Every time you point this out someone goes "oh hey well if you get earplug 6 or whatever shit you've never even seen yet and won't have access to for another 1000 hours, then issue 1 out of the 1000 issues is not a problem anymore".In Dark Souls you don't need to grind endgame 500+ hours to get the bare minimum items to get your first fucking cosmetic armor. In MHW I do, which is fucking ridiculous. MHW is objectively a fucking hundred, or a thousand times harder than Dark Souls. And it's starting to teach me that where I loved Dark Souls difficulty because it was rewarding, you made progress in a reasonable amount of time, MHW does not. It literally expects you to keep dying a week in a fucking row, waste all your assets and money on consumables and alternate weapons trying to find some way, any way to win, until you need to spend another week grinding that shit back just so you can return to step one. How the fuck can any self-respecting person with a life even play this game?

The hardest boss to overcome in DaS 3 is the boring ass combat lmao. But seriously, DaS 3 has the most unappealing selection of weapons and poise just being a threshold for hyperarmor makes the effective weapon selection narrow. The combat overall is a step down from DaS 2. WAs and roll spam doesn't make up for no power stance and a worse poise system.

>>507939216lmao I had more trouble with the outrider knights this boss is a joke

>>507959353DaS3 has the most refined combat out of every Dark Souls game. 1 and 2 are very clunky in comparison. My issue with it was that it encourages a rolling playstyle too much while the other games gave you more possibilities. But DS3's combat is the greatest mechanically, that's undeniable.

>>507938709>>507945636I was doing a sword and board only playthrough and had to break build to handle midair with the dragon slayer greataxe. I feel nothing but shame. The fucker was just not taking damage.

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>>507959209>LobosjrRemember when that nigger shat the bed playing DMC?

>>507959631Yeah, he also shits himself playing Nioh 2 and people to this day think that's a souls game still.

>>507959323Try using proper weapons instead of ranged shit lmao. And defensive skills exist for reason. I beat Lunastra right after finishing the story, it wasn't anything special.

>>507959353>no power stanceWhy did they get rid of this. It was the best feature of 2

>>507942427She's piss easy, the only trouble comes from the second phase and how useless as fuck gael is but you need him to distract friede otherwise you get raped AND he dies in like 3 hits.

>>507950065>Best boss of Dark Souls 3That's not saying much.

>>507959938DaS2 and DaS3 were both developed by the b-team. Miyazaki couldn't have worked on DaS3 because he did bloodborne at the same time, not to mention that it doesn't follow the design principles of his games.So the b-team try to do their thing for DaS2, but after the outcry they just decided to copy DaS1 and play it safe for 3. And it worked.

>>507950636Noooo you can't like a game I dislike reeee!

>>507951680>designed aroundDs3 wasn't designed around summons. It completely breaks the game.

>>507952669BB is probably the best game in the franchise, Ds3 is definitely the worst game in the franchise.

>>507942898dodging and hitting is cheesing. by memorizing the AI you've exploited it therefore cheesing it im just joking but i imagine someone actually thinks like this

>>507938709

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>>507960394BB's bosses were kinda shit though, excluding the humanoid ones. Great soundtrack though>inb4 filteredit was the easiest game of the 6

>>507947249like levelling up?

>>507960575don't make me slap you with yo-yo placenta, faggot

>>507938709This was clearly designed as a last hurrah multiplayer fight and anyone who rages at the mechanics is an autist carebear who plays with his internet unplugged.

>>507960575at least orphan is a fun and challenging fight, midir is just a boring slog that flies around too much, has too much hp, breaks the camera if you lock on and has bullshit resists for some builds

>>507960650>it was the easiest game of the 6Credibility lost. Anyone who pretends that DS1 is a difficult game is a nostalgiafag

>>507960650>t. filtered by bloody crow of cainhurst

2>1>3>bb>sekiro

>>507961078this list is fucked fren

>>507960997Yea but orphan is super unrewarding, like you only get 60k BE and a weapon that only scales with arcane and have to have a special rune to use it

>>507953042there's also Seath the scaleless

>>507938709>cast mistWew, that was hard.Stop spamming Souls trash.

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Can you explain your obssession with Souls? You played all the Souls games, and they were all the same corridory, streamlined experience with gameplay that boils down to "target-lock enemy, dodge button when enemy attacks, retaliate--rinse, repeat". I am not breaking it down. These are the exact inputs for 95% of encounters. You can't say that about Ninja Gaiden or even Monster Hunter without breaking it down.You can't even expect a learning curve from From Software that would finally culminate in something new. It took them like 30 games to add basics like verticality; climbing and diving to their games. CDPR achieved that after only two games in Witcher 3, plus 1. villages, 2. decision making, 3. puzzle solving and actual open worlds. Meanwhile Cyberpunk gets a lot of hate from a lot of you. And no, I don't even like CDPR.They can't figure out archery to this day, which is clunky and feels tertiary. What should daunt you instead is that they finally added new mechanics to Sekiro, and nine out of 10 and especially the tools and arts (you had like 50 and could only pick one of those to use on the go instead of incorporating a bunch of them in the combat). They won't push off from the very limiting input layout for their games. And the terrible framerate is emblematic for how little they care about good gameplay.Souls games are overrated (especially by Reddit and NeoGAF types) to a degree that will never cease to baffle. Though I have a theory as to why it gets such high review scores and barely wins any GotY awards. I think it's possible that most reviewers actually dislike the games and are scared of the autistic "HURR, YOU ARE CASUAL!" shitstorms which would occur if they were to give it low scores. Remember Famitsu gave Demon's Souls like 20/40 and then suddenly even Souls 2 40/40. I understand finding them OK, but what's up with your obsession?

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>>507939427>Rewarded for consistency and endurance. Hmm...., what did Miyazaki mean by this?

>>507938709I've seen worse playing Monster Hunter

>>507938709I've always seen the core of getting good in Souls as being your ability to find when you should doge an enemy, and when you should attack. Is Midir's HP bloated? Yes, but that forces the player to get his patterns locked down, making you master this balance. I've always considered Gael to be the final boss of the """lore""" part of Souls and Midir to be the final boss of the gameplay element, so having his HP that high will filter anyone who can't grasp the core of the gameplay, and for that I like him. Just my two cents.

>>507963187MH monsters are actually very dynamic with lots of attacks, many different hitzones, different modes and often even states now with gameplay that has more focus on positioning, though.

>>507962824> target-lock enemy

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>>507962824>okRent free. Ds1 is an amazing adventure in an unknown handcrafted world. Its story is nothing amazing but it is told in a way that really captivates the player on ocassions. Tl:dr the game is amazing. If you like it or not its up to you.

>>507963315>Is Midir's HP bloated? YesMidir has as much HP as Gael, but takes double damage and can be riposted for 1/5 of his healthbar.

>>507964642I might be retarded

>slap on Havel's shield>Almost nothing Midir does can even scrape you nowI'm almost positive that 90% of people who struggle with parts of 3 forget to can block. I think the devs did too since the bosses and enemies are so heavily designed around punishing rolls, that once you have a good shield it just makes everything fall apart

>>507938709OP here, Just beat Gael... easy as fuck compared to Midir.Got him down two half on my 3rd attempt. Down to 25% soon after.I think I beat him in about an hour... going in blind, no research.IDK, I just don't like Dragons in Dark Souls. Sihn gave me issues too.

hope elden ring has kino dragon fightssomething around as challenging as midir would be nice

>>507960997>midir is just a boring slog that flies around too much, has too much hp, breaks the camera if you lock on and has bullshit resists for some buildsYes, this sums it up nicely. The huge hp pool just exacerbates it.

>>507966660You mean the HP pool that takes massive damage due to having a large weak spot and a scripted riposte? Midir really does not last that long.

>>507967687Stop calling it scripted, retard.You can easily go through the entire fight and never see the riposte, it's a poise break, not scripted.

>>507967802Even worse. You just ousted yourself as a retard that didn't attack the head. It's nearly impossible not to get the poise break if you attack the head.You are absolute botton of the barrel trash. Kill yourself.

>>507938709>Takes double damage when you hit his headlmao

>>507951839Freide, always Freide

>>507957662I think dragons are immortal unliving beings from back when the world was gray so many cycles ago

>>507969265Speaking of retarded things, what was the dumbest thing(s) you folks have done in your soulsborne games playthroughts?I have two:1) Destroying oil barrles to prevent enemies from detonating them... with a fire sword.2) Killing Ancient Wyvern in DS3 by hitting it's head with vertical attacks from a greatsword from below. I knew something was amiss since a) it was taking way too little damage b) not all weapons would be able to reach it's head. I assumed there was some puzzle with the bell that was nearby that I was too stupid to solve,

>>507938709Its a dragon.

>>507951839Artorias on SL1

>>507938709Midir is a piss easy fight, you can just walk away every time he raises his head to do breath attacks, then just simply walk back in and continue hacking him to pieces. You barely have to roll at all.

>>507960575YEAARGH

>>507965815Dragons are much more slow paced fights, they rip you to shreds if you try to go full hyper aggression.If you just take your time and punish them they just fall over, since their recovery times take forever to finish.

This is how I beat him.>+5 Farron Great Sword>15 Estus>Fire Resistant Armour (Fallen Knight Armour)>Save a Ember for when you run out of estus>His stamina is vulnerable for knocking if he does is super ultra attack in the second stageDat's it mane.

>>507969265that still doesnt make it scripted retard