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>>507929557yes

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>>507930869

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>>507929557That, indeed, is the ticket OP.

>>507929557WoFF is pure kino

What makes VIII so damn comfy lads?

>>507932254The music and the setting I guessYou're a mercenary but your base is like a nice hotelTriple Triad

Can someone explain how we still have access to the cafeteria, training area, dorms and whatnot when the garden starts flying?

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>>507932813I cannot

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>>507932254It's basically Harry Potter with swords and guns.

>>507932254Quistis

>>507933239Patrician Choices:>Quistis>Fujin>Edea>Adel

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But does your school have fuckin' JETPACKS???????

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>>507933337>AdelWe have to draw a line somewhere

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>>507933207Shit.. you're actually right

>>507933207....and magic

A friend of mine killed himself because he was convinced he would wake up in Balamb garden in his next life.

>>507934807I'm a hardcore fan with FF8, so many times I would even try to escape reality with lucid dreaming, I would be in Balamb Garden where I would often train with Zell in the training center and help Selphie with the Garden Festival, but one day as I was talking to Selphie, we went to my dormitory for a private talk. She immediately said, "You know you could live with us forever.." I gave her a confused look and she continued, "We understand that you live on earth and you REALLY wish to live here". I then said "How..How did you know?" She then giggled and said "Because we've been watching you, silly!"This was a dream come true and I almost cried right there. She then said, "I talked with Headmaster Cid and he agreed that you would be PERFECT for SeeD, you just have to do...one thing". She then held my hand and looked deep into my eyes and said "...You have to kill yourself for the transfer to work correctly." I then gave her some questions, "How long do I have before the deal expires?" She then said "Cid said 3 months.." I added by saying "What's the most painless way?..." She giggled again, "Suicide will require pain buuut...if you want it quick...Get a gun and a nice shot to the head works.I then agreed and she gave me a kiss on the forehead, "I know this will be tough but once it's over and done, you'll get to live here!" I then woke up and this was last week and i purchased a gun. I might actually kill myself because that dream just felt too real to be fake and my life isn't doing so grand.

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>>507934807Literally based

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>>507934807based and deadpilled

>>507934459Did anyone else get turned on by this? I think it gave me my transformation fetish.

>>507934868This will never fail to make me laugh.

>>507935317I only remember being annoyed by the mechanics of the fight

>>507929557OP's mommy' bedroomHome

I just finished FF8 for the first time. It sucks. It is bad even by Final Fantasy standards. Almost every single aspect of this game is subpar to terrible. The only reason I even pushed myself to finish it was so I could say I beat it and have an informed opinion on it.Not shitposting or trolling. I consider myself an FF fan and this was one of the worst I've played.

>>507935895every mother's day needs a mother's night

>>507936542I liked it.

>>507936542What were your major complaints with it? Story? Gameplay? It's my favorite FF but I completely understand why some people don't like it.

>>507936542You did it wrong. You don't "play" FF8. You live in FF8.

>>507936542Whatever

don't mind me just being best girl

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>>507937151on replay I was surprised to remember that she is only 18

FF8 deserved a remake more than 7, because at least 7's story was complete and clearly not rushed to shit or possibly rewritten last minute.

whoever came up with direct trade rule is a total asshole

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>>507937151she got friendzoned and is irrelevant after disc 1

>>507936692>Story? Gameplay? Both.- The junction system is bad, it encourages you to farm spells (which is boring and shit) and then punishes you for casting those spells.- The combat is broken effortlessly by overpowered junctions and limit break manipulation (don't know why they didn't just reuse FF7's perfectly fine limit system).- Level scaling in a JRPG (possibly to try and counter how broken the game is).- Almost no difference between the party members and since there's no exp sharing and you can switch all their junctions with one button, there's no real point even touching half your party, they're just pack mules for excess magic.- World map is enormous but 99% empty. What locations there are have little to do in them. The map itself also serves basically no gameplay purpose since you get access to vehicles almost right from the start.- The story is borderline incoherent, important context for plot-critical setting stuff is hidden as text dumps in the tutorial menu instead of delivered by the narrative.- The writing is bad, nothing sets up or pays off in an interesting or satisfying way. The main villain has no motivations. Squall (and maybe Rinoa) is the only character who has any kind of arc. None of the characters are likeable. The dialogue is almost childish. lol GF memory loss.- The music is only okay, but it's not even used effectively. The music feels like a tonal mismatch for most scenes.I could go on but frankly, I disliked almost everything about this game. The only time I remember where I was genuinely enjoying myself was figuring out the art gallery puzzle in Ultimecia's Castle. FF8 feels like Square was just flexing their CG cutscene budget, and on the game side they focused all their efforts on subverting genre conventions and trying to do everything differently, regardless of whether their ideas were good or not.

>>507937918most of the additional rules do nothing but degrade the game and it sucks

>>507937396the ages don't make sense, rinoa shouldve be 17, quistis 30 and squall 22

>>507939121They probably did it so she could conceivably have grown up together with all the other characters in the same orphanage, but it's still retarded considering she's clearly meant to be a "hot teacher" older woman character. This game is really the epitome of JRPGs having a fetish for having absurdly young casts because I don't think any of the party members are out of their teens.

>>507939404Yeah, they're all like 16-18 I believeSome of the background lore in your terminal at the beginning says all students leave Garden by age 20, wether they've become SeeDs or not, and you have to achieve SeeD status by 20 or you'll never get it

>>507939404you are right, the orphanage dumb conection made them all have the same age, God what a stupid twist

>>507929557its home for a bunch of faggots

>>507939404they look like college students I agree

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I am a FF8 fanboy and even I want you to stop reposting this thread.

>Try to do side stuff>Get punished with docked pay

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>>507934459>long dick clothlmao how have I never noticed this?

>>507934868Is it bad that I would like a mod to keep Selphie in her SeeD uniform because I think her regular clothes are boring and also panty shots in her uniform are better

>>507934459is she the first ftm villain in videogame history?

>>507929557>FFVIIIlol

>>507939874The SeeD rank system is so arbitrary and weirdJust take the hit and then use the written tests to get it back up

>>507939404>>507939654Did the orphanage stuff add anything to the game?

>>507939883how does that part not go under her when she walks forward

>>507940772No. As far as I can tell the only reason they made all the characters grow up together is for the "power of friendship" moment near the end when the time compression starts, which itself wasn't necessary. The only characters who had any real reason to be from the orphanage are Squall, Ellone and Seifer.

>>507929557IS this the new meme? I like it.

>>507940772It explained why Irvine hesitated shooting Edea and why Seifer fell for her but other than that, no. I think Irvine, Squall and Seifer shouldve been the only ones in the orphanage. Quistis shouldve been an older teacher, Zell had a mother in Balamb and Selphie was from Trabia, these three had no business being in the orphanage.They make this dumb conection and yet Squall never asks Laguna if he's his father or ever visits Raine tomb in Winhill.

>>507937151fact

>>507937151shouldve kept the glasses in his other outfit, also a shame we never get to fight with squall in his seed uniform, that uniform fucking rocks

>>507929557WHOA BLACK BETTY, BAM BALAMB

>>507941338Ellone knows that Squall is Laguna's child yet never bothers telling either of them. In fact it's only ever implied in a single line of dialogue in the entire game, not even directly stated, so it's a fact that's incredibly easy to overlook unless you know about it in advance.

>>507941825I will never unhear this for the rest of my life

>>507941628Her skirt with pants does look kinda weird.

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>>507941859we never get to see the existence of raine tomb or that Laguna promised her until the last cutscene, the game was rushed

>>507942095you are right, I thought those were boots

the point of quistis is that she's a dominatrix teacher, making her 18 and not using glasses made her less interesting

>>507942325She's also a complete mess and failure of a person who disappears into the background of the plot in the first 3 hours

>>507933239The right answer

>>507938587I don't know man, while you do make a point, ff8s world is tremendously atmospheric and easy to be immersed. the art and music are god tier.and while most of the gameplay feels kinda strange and ridiculously breakable once you know how, at least it took risks, tried to make something different than every other JRPG in existence. the execution is good? well, no. I can't say it is, but they tried

>>507942716what wouldve you done though? make her redeem seifer in the pandora or something like that? after being rejected by squall she does lose her purpouse but I don't know what else to make with her.

>>507938587It all makes sense (except the music, maybe). So why is VIII my favorite FF? Is it because it is the first I played or there is something good?

>>507943436the art is god tier

>>507943173I couldn't really get into the art and music because I was too busy being annoyed by the crappy gameplay and story. I also think the music is only okay, it is FAR from Uematsu's best work and even the good tracks aren't really used appropriately. Some of it is just straight up not good, like this fart symphony: youtube.com/watch?v=l75zjpDpAWsMaybe the most frustrating thing about the game is that I can kind of see what they were going for, I can kind of see how the game could be changed to be made good, but they didn't do it that way. It's bad forever.

>>507942095>>507942215Omg, you are right. Turns out my early developed boot fetish is completely unjustified. I'll have to nurture a skirt and pants fetish now...

>>507943790You can do it, I believe in you

>single handedly stages a successful prison break.>Is the only one of the orphans who actually gets adopted.>Only one known to actively search for food. Rest of the party confirmed for androids.>Punches shit.>Only one who is knowledgeable about the affairs of the rest of the world. Political situation in Galbadia? Check. History of the Deep Sea Research Facility? Gotchu senpai.>Has a shrine to his grandfather. He knows respect.>As a matter of fact, his grandfather was probabbly doomguy. Ever noticed his shotgun on Zell's room?>Rides hoverboards.>Alpha as fuck, is the only one who actually has girls swooning over him.>Master jeweller. Can make a copy of a ring with just some materials.>Is the source of Squall's tactical genius. Denying the enemy of resources is a valid strategy, even if said resources are hot dogs.>Is a master martial artist who can learn and create deadly new techniques just from reading magazines.>Blows so precise he can even swat flies by punching.>Can run around the world in mere seconds just to punch the shit out of someone.>Has the strongest Limit Break in the entire game. Lionheart? Get that weak shit outta here.>A single punch of him is strong enough for people to think there was an earthquake.>The greatest wingman, helps Squall on the way to getting some puss puss, even strong arming him at least once into progress.

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Are there any good mods? Mostly interested in rebalance or graphics mods.

>>507944324>Gets Trabia blown up by ICBMs

>>507944324>almost taken out by hotdogs

>>507944598Why didn't Galbadia dominate everything apart from Esthar when they had that kind of capability

>>507944860my headcanon is that they needed the dollet tower to guide the misiles

>>507932813I alwas just assumed those outside compartments just retract into the main building when it takes off.

>>507945592they do, after it goes air mod the passages between them no longer appear

>>507945153As a kid on my first playthrough I missed the background dialogue about how there was a worldwide signal interference where nobody could use radio waves. I was always confused why the tower was a big deal at all.

reminder

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>>507944860Galbadia Garden, and all the gardens, are technically neutral. Galbadia didn't act until it had control of the Garden and was being run by the Sorceress.

>>507944860They pretty much did though. But you can't occupy places with missiles and they already had their hands full with one little town.

>>507938587The junction system main problem is how much freedom it gives you, unfortunately full freedom is not always good as most people will hover towards the best setup.All world maps on JRPGs are almost empty and just serve the purpose of giving the world a shape, especially the first 9 mainline FFs.The story is dumb yeah but don't see the part where plot elements are hidden in the tutorial menu, which plot element the loss of memory? At your graduation Cid mentions it.The villian does have a purpose as convoluted as it might be, everyone got that she wanted to kompress time.

>>507936542agree with this post reallyexcept i'm not sure i'd call myself a ff fan, i am a jrpg fan tho

I kinda want a hot dog now

For me, it's Gilgamesh

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>>507948585

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>>507946967FF8's map is especially empty since it's also especially large. There are huge parts of the Centra and Esthar continents which have absolutely nothing on them. The game has like 7 towns/cities but 4 of them are on Galbadia for some reason. Also even though most JRPG world maps are mostly empty, the map still serves a purpose as you have to traverse the map and deal with its monsters. In FF8 you are almost never forced to actually walk across the map because you get access to cars almost immediately and then partway into Disc 2 you get the mobile Garden which lets you go almost anywhere.Things like the Lunar Cry/Lunatic Pandora/Crystal Pillar, the Sorceress Wars, and the concept of Sorceresses are not really properly explained in the game's story and are instead in the information section, although even then not to a really adequate level. I'm not asking for the game to just demystify everything but it should at least tell you enough to give you a good idea of what is happening and why. There's other stuff that is just never explained anywhere like why Ellone (and only Ellone) has special powers. It's not crucial for understanding the story but it'd at least help make it more credible.Ultimecia wanting to achieve time compression is made obvious, but that is her objective, not her motivation. Why does she want to compress time? For power/control? Why does she want that? Not just in a broader sense of "because those things are desirable", why does this specific character Ultimecia want power. This might sound like I'm being pedantic, but well written characters have reasons for their actions, ideally believable/relatable reasons that contrast with other opposing characters and thereby explore some kind of greater theme. Admittedly, this isn't really Final Fantasy's forte.

>only SeeD use GFs>you need a GF to use the Draw and Magic commands>Galbadia soldiers and many other non-SeeDs are still are able to use magicwhatever

>>507949462You need a GF to drink potions apparently.

FF7 was more memorable, with higher highs, but somehow FF8 is the one I always return to. The world feels so connected (railroad system alone is maximum comfy), so many little tidbits of information that pay off later not serving bigger story, but just to enrich characters or locales (like Seifer being a fan of Laguna movie and copying his stance). It's a goddamn labour of love put in AAA product that could only be achieved during that time. Everyone cared and put the best they could.

>>507949462the GF restriction is only for gameplay purposesLorewise, regular people can use something called "Para-Magic" which is described as controlling energy in a way that resembles magicIn-universe, GFs just allow you to junction magic and become stronger through a kind of symbiosis with the GF. Other gardens don't use GFs for the obviously very-real memory loss rumors. Early in the game one of the Garden faculty tells you "dont listen to all that anti-GF propaganda"Sorceresses are able to use real magic, which exceeds para-magic

>>507949462>Rinoa becomes a sorceress>Still needs a GF junctioned to use magic

I never understood why Internet blowed up the orphanage twist so much. Its effect on the story is so miniscule, it basically amounts to nothing and could as well not exist at all. The only undeniably bad story point was Quistis returning to Rinoa to apologize to her at the end of disk 1, that was really out of character.

>>507949387>Why does she want to compress time?The game literally tells you it it doesn't matter, via Dr. Odine :^)

>>507949946It's exactly because it hardly impacts the story at all - it's completely pointless. There was no reason for it.

>>507938587Take notes chlidren. This is what being filtered looks like.

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>>507950616At this point "pleb filter" is just code language for "shit game".FF8 was the first FF where Sakaguchi wasn't either director or producer, which probably has something to do with why it's so shit. (He is credited as "Executive Producer" which everyone knows is basically just a dicksuck title for people who had no real involvement but need to be in the credits for seniority/political reasons)

>>507949537apparently yes

>>507951015who give shit about sakauchiit all kitase, daily remainder all good ff is kitase6 7 8 10

>>507949387Ultimecia want power to defy fate, sorry you got filler

>>507933207more like Harry Potter is FF8 without gun and sword

>>507953550Harry Potter came first though

Post Quistis.

>>507933207But they graduate before first disc finish

>>507934868Please understand that Final Fantasy VIII is a work of fiction, it's fine to love the game because of how it made you feel, but you have to remember that Selphie as well as all of the characters in the game were created from the minds of game developers, it's not like there's an alternate reality where Balamb Garden and everyone else are real, because they just aren't. I do hope that you seek help, as I feel that you have some form of depression if you've ever considered suicide. Just take a step away from Final Fantasy VIII, and experience other things besides FFVIII. If you don't have a lot of friends you can depend on, I am willing to be your friend and help you out since you could end up making the biggest mistake of your life. Whatever you're going through in life right now, just know that things always get better after a terrible time, and that you must stay strong, either for other people or for yourself. Don't give up.

>>507949387your first point is nitpicking, not to mention you confirm that other jrpgs world maps are empty, and no, their purpose is not to throw you random battles it seems you are just desperate, also you can get encounter none, repels, etc in other games, hell even in FF you get access to chocobos early.The sorceresses are explained and all events and landmarks are explained, if you are saying that talking to npc as text dumps or tutorial then you certainly have not played enough jrpgs.Her motivations are shown throught the game, SeeD were always there to fight her and was destined to lose to them so she wanted to escape that fate, it is really not better or worse than the typical achieving godhood for "reasons".

>>507933207Harry Potter with GF

>>507955603shit they graduate in the first 2 hours

>>507936542You must at least born in 1996 and below to liked FF8

FF8 should be fucking Remade. Its benefited from it.

>>507953234Shhh don't let the FF "purist" who never really played the first games hear you.FF is only about kings, knights, princesses and dragons. Totally original concept unlike any other RPG of the time.

>>507950056Originally only Squall and Seifer were childhood friends

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>>507956117I don't like this trend of remaking old classic JRPGsI wish they could just make new, good games People are like "oh they should remake Chrono Trigger"fuck off

>>507956327>make new, good gamesWe already running out of Story to write. Example : FF15.

>>507956624Remake Breath of Fire 2, how about that

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>>507932813concept art is not accurate. The size of the central building is more than enough to accomodate everything.

>>507939782Don't post that shit here, you dirty animal

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Best girl.

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>>507956624>running out of story to writeThat's you laughable post-modernist ideology, not reality. If something there is no stories being written at all and way too many stories that could be written, but aren't.

FF8's story isn't interesting when you look at it as a whole, but when you're playing through it, I think it's pretty fun since it keeps surprising you and has unique set pieces>Student in a military academy>Defending a city that's under assault by some other army>Derailing a train to kidnap a politician>Planning the assassination of a politician>Infiltrating a missile baseOther JRPGs were still - and still are today - putting you in Forest, Cave, Volcano, Tower and so on.

>>507958042

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>>507958047Apply yourself at Square enix as a writer then.

>>507958131FF8's first disc is amazing. The game goes off the rails after that. It's still my favorite though.

>Forced romance interest is the worst girl in the party

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>>507960098It's kino when you realize it's literally forced because she's using sorceress powers.

>>507946186So that's where it was.

>>507958912Replaying recently I've been surprised how fast paced Disc 1 is.>SeeD exam/Dollett Mission>Immediately sent to Timber to kidnap president, meet Rinoa, train mission>Seifer is seduced by the Sorceress>Immediately sent to Galbadia Garden, get orders to assassinate Sorceress>Sorceress assasinationit really doesn't slow down

Remaster or original PS1 version?

>Riona was all over Seifer in disc 1>Squall "dies" at teh ending of disc 1>on disc 2 Rion never mentions Seifer againabsolute shit tier story and writing

>>507958373sauce me up senpai.

>>507961541What a mystery, as if spending time with someone wouldn't make you closer to them

>>507961541When Rinoa thinks Seifer is dead early in Disc 1, she just says stuff like>He was nice, I think I might have been in love but I don't knowShe moves on pretty quick, she assumes he's dead for a good while after that. Hearing her talk about Seifer in the past tense so casually like that is what makes Squall freak out

>>507961541Squall dies at the end of CD1. The rest of the game is just his dream.Meanwhile in the real world Seifer is dicking down Riona every night.

Played it again a few months ago. The older I get, the more I like Laguna's development. Eyes on me and the man with the machine gun are the best songs

>>507933337>>507934459>>507958042>>507958373why are sorceresses so sexy bros

>>507961640LazyProcrastinator

>>507961968As much as the "Squall is dead after Disc 1" theory might seem to hold up, apparently it was never the intention of the creatorsso my real question is how the fuck did he recover from the icicle through his chestthat's never explained at all

>>507962153someone casted Cure 2 on him idkthe whole FF8 is a plothole shitshow so don't worry about it

>>507961987She's the best.

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What's the Holla Forumserdict of FF3? Which version is superior, the remake or the original?

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>>507961987Because of all the MOMMY possibilities

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Posting actual best girl.

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>>507962153>chestit is shoulder, why people so blind

>>507962324I have only played the remake but had a very good time, one of my favourites. Can't really picture the original being better.

>>507962770my first vidya crushshe is so cute

>>507962153>As much as the "Squall is dead after Disc 1" theory might seem to hold upIt doesn't, it never did. The second you start thinking about the Balamb teachers, or the Laguna "dreams", or Ellone, or the Timber screen message, it all falls apart.

>>507963073squallsdead.com/

>>507962770how is she best girl? show interest in Squall just because hes fuck up and is secretly in love with Seifer.

>>507956285Where is that from? Google is failing me.

>>507963196>a retard made a web pagewooooooow

>>507929557So it'sSquall: BritishQuistis: GermanSelphie: Nordic? I keep thinking Finnish for some reasonZell: American (Eastern Coast)Irvine: American (Midwest/Texas)Rinoa: Japanese

>>507963374It's from the Ultimania Archive, more than half of the things in that map ended up cut.

>>507963474>cowboy >midwest He’s clearly from the west/Texas. If he was from the Midwest he would hve a beer belly and be a loser

>>507963474Visually sureStorywise every person on the planet is descended from the Centra civilization that existed 4000 years before the game

>>507963268>hes fuck up and is secretly in love with SeiferFuck off fujo.

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>>507963959i ment she is in love with Seifer, not Squall

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Disc 1 of FF8 is probably the peak of JRPGs. It had everything you ever wanted. Cool cast, cutscenes, plot, setting etc..then disc 2 came and game went from 10/10 to a 5/10 at best

>>507964320she isn't

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>>507965042keep telling yourself that NTR fagshe was lusting over Seifer so hard on CD1, she would get wet just by mentioning his name

>>507965630>makes up cuckold fantasies that secretly makes him hard and calls others ntr fagsProjecting hard.

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This is the cutest FF8 picture. Prove me wrong, you can't.

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people say dollet is best but lunar cry is better

>>507949387>Why does she want to compress time?So she could meet Squall again and have him kill her like they promised

>>507937151>blocks your path

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>>507966291I really really like this one.

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>>507933239best girl

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>>507960098Dumb WHOstis tard

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>>507929557FF8 would have been 1000% better if it had just been about Laguna, Ward, and Kiros and their adventures in the Final Fantasy Vietnam War.

>>507962770based, Quistiniggers still seething

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>>507968561Not really

>>507968561FFX-2 should've been FF8-2

>>507969905why the story ended, no point. unlike X it still needed x-3 lul

Why is FF8 so cringe compared to other FF games

>>507968893Plus she has a fat dog

>>507967886I can't be the only one that thought Kiros was a woman when they were kids, r-right?

>>507970797A very useful dog... with a male name despite being female for some reason

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>>507971836>Angelo (male name)>Female dogChinks are retarded and think they are smart like Kojima and genes on mgs1

>>507929557Reminder that FFVIII is pleb filter and if you don't like it, that means you are a double digit iq brainlet

>>507967712>Robin Williams smashed that

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