Here we go again

>>507913627Not putting the new tutorials in Normal mode was a huge fucking mistake. Nobody who likes action games is going to start with Easy mode, but this game is so novel and weird that even guys that are quick on the uptake are going to need some help.They should've also shown newcomers some footage of what high level play looks like so they have something to emulate/aspire to. Maybe contextualize it as P-Star showing Wonder-Red footage of the other Wonderful Ones in action when they're first recruited. I bet a lot of people who beat it and tossed it aside didn't even know you could juggle enemies.

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This is the game that Nintendo fans made such a huge deal about? Really?Lmao. U R Mr. Gay game

>>507911719>NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!>SOMEONE HAS A DIFFERENT OPINION THAN ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Get over yourselves. Literally none of you would be doing this if they rated TLoU2 the same score. In fact, you'd be celebrating.

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>>507914440We can laugh a bad opinions.

Who was in the right?

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>>507914702You can, but not to the point where you need to constantly make threads about it.also half the replies in the 8+ threads are obvious butthurt.

>>507914440>Literally stating multiple factually false claims is an "opinion"stop being retarded user

People are going to see that reviews for this are all over the place, with GameSpot's utterly shit review, and IGN's glowing 9/10 review, and hopefully makes them wonder "What is up with this".Though I guess I'm being stupidly optimistic.

>>507914880>opinion>a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.Yes. Sometimes, opinions can be wrong. Just deal with it. I never understood why you lot are so fixated on what other people think.

>>507912991They literally admit that they never finish games, why do you think Dark Souls only got 3 GOTY awards when it came out whereas Skyward Sword got over 30?

>>507915098Probably because Skyward Sword is better than Dark Shit

>>507914881I think Joe Normie is more interested in playing universally critically acclaimed games than take a risk on a purchase. That’s why AAA titles are such bland soulless design-by-committee paint by numbers derivative garbage. Taking a risk by supporting the new means alienating potential customers, after all.

>>507912507>There’s no Witch Time equivalent, either. That's a straight up fucking LIE.

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>>507915231Skyward Sword is the worst 3D Zelda by a fucking mile and deserves to be remembered only as a cautionary tale.

>>507915712>Skyward Sword is the worst 3D Zelda by a fucking mileYet it's still better than any Dark Souls. Huh.

>>507912507>Yet your moves are limitedi think i just had a stroke

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>>507911719>2013+7>Having any faith left in game journalism

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>>507912507>Wonderful Stinger and Wonderful Rising. These requrie careful left stick inputs to perform.>There’s no Witch Time equivalent

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>reviewers name is Epstein

>>507911719Game journalists used to have taste, there used to be 150 different publications for every AAA game. So it was way harder to get high scores, only the revolutionary games were rewarded with a 97 like this game.

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Why are Games Journalists the absolute bottom barrel?

Can someone actually tell me how lock on is supposed to work in this game because it is not explained at all and fucking instruction manuals no longer exist.

so uh has anyone called them out for this

>>507916058This just kills me

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>>507916342Lock on works with team attacks. Once you get a Wonderful One to latch on an enemy, you're locked on to them and will automatically snap to them if you try to attack.

>>507916470Thank you. I think that was how it was working but I wasn't sure.

>>507911719so does it actually play well without a second screen?

>>507912507>There's no Witch Time equivalent, either.Did this fucker even look at the shop?

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>>507916646I haven't played the new port yet, but wouldn't they just use the picture in picture option the original had?

>>507916646It played just fine without a second screen on Wii U, I played it with a pro controller, can't imagine it's any worse now.

>>507912507>>507911719This is Mike Epstein, the guy who wrote the review Say something nice about him

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>>507914705Wii U reviewer, no question.

>>507916925I hope he gets Epstein'd

While Wonderful 101 is a great game. None of you people gave a shit when they shat on Anarchy Reigns even though it's one of the best Arena Fighters.

>>507916925>Movieblob>This bozoWhat is it with fatfucks and sucking ass at this game? Can't wait for the Jimquisition rant about Unite Guts being an insult to fat people.

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>>507917085What did movie blob say about it?Source on it?

>>507916925I don't believe you.

>>507915516Yeah... maybe that's why I'm so attracted to niche titles. Because the big games are mostly garbage.>>507912507What review is this? It's not the shitty Gamespot one (that one doesn't mention Witch Time)>>507916342It's the team attack. Press it multiple times to "lock on"

>>507917179Don't know, earlier today anons were freaking out over him hating the game. Haven't looked it up myself because I tend to stay away from lardasses Other M apologists.

>>507911719>new retards review old good gameI already 100% the original so I know the game is based.

>>507911719>your moves are limitedWho wrote this shit? A pinhead?

>>507917295gamespot.com/profile/mikeepstein/

>>507917396I tried looking. Searching "moviebob wonderful 101". Didn't find anything. In fact, second result was a Holla Forums thread from this morning.So your guess is as good as mine.

>>507912507>there's no witch timeYOU LITERALLY BUY IT IN THE FUCKING SHOPTHE UPGRADE IS FUCKING CALLED WITCH TIMEJesus fuck fuck journos

>moves are limitedThis is one of the most move heavy Platinum games, what the actual fuck?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gamespot>The same guys who gave the Wii U version of Tropial Freeze a 6

>>507917764You don’t get the option to buy it until around 005. You don’t seriously expect a reviewer to play halfway through a game, do you? Don’t be so entitled.

>>507918250What's messed up is they gave the original version an 8. Different reviewer I know, but it really reflects badly on them.

>>507912507>He didn't get Guts and SpringEvery timeEVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME

>>507918263reviewers can actually ask for certain save points

>>507917872It’s also the most restrictive on a fresh save. It fucking sucks at the start in the remaster since you can’t even play with Multi-Unite Morphs while waiting for Unite Gun’s stinger to unlock.

Imagine being such an Npc that your opinion of a game is a review written by some dumbass who was so brainlet that he couldn’t land an actual job in actual periodism and now is a wagecuck writting for a “gamer” site that clickbaits people with buzzfeed bots, and the idiot didn’t play the game either.Seriously if you judge a game from what a journalfag “played” of it you deserve to get your thumbs cut offThe bare minimum required to consider buying a game should be watching a Lp, but not the screaming soijak’s ones, a mute one, no comentary, only gaming, those are based

>>507916925

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>It's another reviewer who didn't know all the move mechanics were in the shopSpring and Guts really shouldve been defaulted

Is he a guest writer? Sad.

>>507918250>Game reviewer>Is absolutely fucking shit at games and hates on genuinely good gamesCan't they envisage a career change writing for a medium they actually enjoy or understand?

>>507914705Neither because all reviews are retardation but the one that Nintendo wasn't counting on and therefore didn't pay for is obviously the one you can trust more.

>>507918520You're fucking kidding. For real?

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What even is the point of IGN “reviews” these days. Back then they were the only ones reviewing newer games so it made sense, but these days you can find YouTube channels dedicated to this shit.

W101 was always a divisive game, the remaster wasn't going to change that.You either play enough to realize the mechanics are key or you get tired too early

>>507918702It's a Gamespot review actually, just saying

>>507918628They can’t, they are literally too dumb to write about other subject

>>507918702That's Gamespot in the OP.IGN actually gave the game a glowing 9 out of 10. Bizarre I know.

the comments about the camera and drawing do make sense though. The game was designed for the wii u and the ports suffer for it

>>507918702IGN review was actually 8

>>507918520You can't make this shit up>Paid game critique has not finished a single fucking gameReminds me of>Big Earthbound fan excited to play it for the first time!Though I'm sure even that guy should have finished Earthbound by now.

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>>507911719>weeb trash comes out>gets labeled as trash by people paid to label shit>weebs get madpathetic subhuman mongos, stop playing children games and creating echo chambers online

>>507918859>Big Earthbound fan excited to play it for the first time!I still think this was him saying "I'm really into what this game might have to offer."

>>507918837??? you can literally draw commands fine, in fact even back in Wii U it's much better to draw with the right stick

>>507918874Western games are always awful, the only people who defend them are retarded journalists & trannies who deserve to be killed simply for existing. Join the 41% faggot.

>>507918859>>Big Earthbound fan excited to play it for the first time!Who said that? Was it one of these stupid Miiverse posts?

>>507918989im not saying you cant draw them fine I am saying it was easier with the wiiu touchpad, it is larger and lighter than the switch.

how does the switch version run

>>507919148thehardtimes.net/harddrive/huge-earthbound-fan-excited-play-first-time/

>>507919148hard times article, basically onion/clickhole for games

>>507911719do you still get a joke ending if you play on easy? have any journos accidentally exposed themselves as babby yet?

>>507919148It's an article from satire site The Hard Times.

>>507918859Tbf gaming journalism rarely requires people that had played games, they only care about traffic for ads money, the dude could have written 8 paragraphs of the word cock and they would have still published the review, as long as there are idiots clicking links they don’t care if the review is written by a fucking chimpanzee

>>507918520Are we pretending that they would legitimately fill this thing out? Don't be stupid Holla Forums or at least that stupid. W101 was mediocre on release and still is just like most of plat games

>>507916925>Epstein

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>>507919221played through prologue and missions 1 and 2. So far just some dips in cutscenes during the prologue, nothing during gameplay or in the other missions

>>507919008all games are (hence why we're here) except 2 or 3 per year but no comes out of gookland - they stopped trying long time ago

>>507919332t. Epstein

>>507919251>>507919291>>507919306thanks

>>507919332Wonderful 101 is the best game in its genre though.

>>507919251This is a satirical website you dink.

>>507917085Last I saw Jim Sterling actually liked Wonderful 101 a lot and seems to like Platinum Games in general.

>>507918837>>507918989>having to either waste time or pulling out the stylus, or using your finger on the screen like a fucking ANIMALRight stick was always the way to go.

>>507919332>if you like x game you are stupidOh please, enlighten me with your superior taste then, post your top 5 faggot

>>507919549no one is saying it isnt...

>>507919302There’s a fucking joke ending? I’ve never heard of this. Do you have a link to it?

>>507919603Unless you are a thumblet

>>507919181Switch has a capacitive screen. Wii U is resistive. Switch screen is far better to draw on than Wii U.

>>507916925No surprise that his reflexes are slow with all of that MSG flowing through his veins and arteries.

>>507919645Then I guess that went completely over my head didn’t it, you nimrod?

>>507914705Neither, game is 2013s best game by a wide margin, but it's probably one of the years lowest rated titles.

>>507919603> using your finger on the screen>a touchscreenthe horror!dont tell me you honestly used the stylus every time you had to use your DS

>>507919783switch is awkward to hold due to no ergonomics on the joycons and it being heavier. Also nothing in the game requires much precision so the type of touchscreen is irrelevant really

>>507911719Wonderful 101 is officially the God Hand of generation.

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>>507919603>using your finger on the screen like a fucking ANIMALAnd what the fuck do you use for your phone? A fucking stylus?

>>507914215How do you juggle enemies?

Nothing really changed about the game in the remaster, if journalists hated it then of course they'll hate it now.

>>507919840Yes. I'd rather not dirty up the screen.No matter how clean your hands are, you're still going to leave smudges on your screen with prolonged touching.

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>>507920003>he doesn’t have gripsThat’s your damn fault

>>507920152First you need to stun them with team attacks then use a Wonderful Rising move on them. You unlock each weapon type's Wonderful Rising by leveling up Wonderful Ones of that weapon type (so keep using the weapon)

>>507920186The real crime is not having a screen protector, you have no right to point out what’s acceptable and what isn’t

>>507912507>There’s no Witch Time equivalent, either.That is an outright fucking lie.

>>507920035It's even the same devs kek

>>507911719I don't even know how to properly express my fury with this one, moreso when looking at the comments and several seem to buy into it. This is some fucking garbage and I don't understand why these people get these jobs. What even compels them to work by playing video games when they're barely good enough to have any fun with them? These reviewers are a fucking blight and I'm glad I haven't referred to them within the last decade. There needs to be some outrage over this or I won't be able to stop seething.

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I kinda want to make a collage of 101 false statements and dumbass moments made by journalists about this game. think it can be done?

>>507921187Do it. Make sure to include evidence on why they're false statements too.

>Upset everyone can see how garbage one of the few exclusives their dead console had actually waslol

i thought that was ign so i watched their video reviewthey gave it 9/10 with glowing praise and pretty fair critiques

>>507913518>>507913728Anon I watched a lets play of it before I went back into W101 and reignited my love for henshinIt's that good

>>507921187do it

youtube.com/watch?v=V6xFveKMBpEHow about this for a Let's Play :D

>>507921697>Its a pair of soijaks screaming and exaggerating This is why the only acceptable LPs are those without commentary, everything else is autismo bait

>>507921187Make a youtube video where you demonstrate the falsehood as the quote appears on screen

>>507922352Geek and Sundry is for kids.

>>507919181>it was easier with the wiiu touchpad,No it wasn't. That's asking to get fucked because you've taken your grip of the face buttons. The stick has always been more intuitive and this rhetoric about the touchpad being better is only being spouted now by people who don't know shit about the game. SEVEN FUCKING YEARS of people saying use the stick and you still don't learn.

>CRITIC SCORES DO NOT MATTER WHEN I DISAGREE WITH THEM>CRITIC SCORES ARE THE GOSPEL IF I AGREE WITH THEM

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>>507923735because I actually play games and I can tell what's bullshit and what isn't.

>>507923735It's not about opinion

>>507916925He's called Epstein, I don't think I need to add on to his suffering

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>>507923735this but unironicallyanyone who disagrees with me is a faggot by default

>>507923735Any time a game critic gives a game a positive score, it's either because they're paid to or because they think that giving the game a good score will give them better press. They don't actually give a fuck about games

>>507918520As funny as this screenshot looks lets be real, he probably just was too lazy to put stuff there. who even would look at it

>>507921697that guy has a nice chin. otherwise this is cringe as niggers

>>507911719what the fuck does he mean about the drawing mechanics? you're supposed to use the stick and it always worked fantastic on the wiiu version. did they fuck it up somehow or was this retarded reviewer wanting to use the touch screen?

>>507920035Ironically though

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>>507926880Assuming the touch screen controls are how the game was meant to be played and then complaining about them is par for the course for 101 reviews. There's a review out there that says the analog controls were added for the remaster as a concession for the absent gamepad touch controls.

>>507927186>Villain redeems itself at the last minute

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I remember using and even preferring the Wii U Pro controller on the Wii U version.Takes me back though, I remember propping the gamepad up and using the Wii U Pro in Mario Kart, Pikmin, Xenoblade X, and this game. Pretty comfy.

>>507912507This is one of the worst reviews I've ever read

Reminds me of that dogshit review of the Wii U original from Blistered Thumbs; basically the reviewer went "lol the controls are so bullshit I played less than 2 hours of the game and that's it. 4/10"

>>507912507witch time bit from another review

>>507911719This is godhand all over again

>>507926127I wanna fuck Yukiko.

>reviewers have fucking garbage taste in action games Didn't we all learn this with DmC? And failing that, GoW 2018?

>>507924315sh-shut up! y-you’re s(o)y! S(O)Y!!!!1!1!1

>>507920618I bet they're people who failed to make it into "real" journalism and are now stuck writing about a topic they deem beneath them.

>game designed for WII U pad>ported to different systemThis was never going to go well. This port is just a cash grab to squeeze some more money out of an old game by throwing it out on a console it was never meant for and controls worse on. Of course Holla Forums will defend it because they're Platinum shills.

>>507929823I don't think gow 2018 is that great of an example. It got like what, 3-4 score points too high? It's impressive that reviewers managed to be somewhat close on that one.

>>507930019>It got like what, 3-4 score points too high?Please play better action games.

>>507911719They didn't even mention anywhere this game was coming to steam. I swear they want it to fail twice.

>>507930014Worth it just to not have the game shit itself on Vorkken battles.

>>507930164I have played a bunch this generation, I don't remember any better ones. But it's also 7 AM and I'm dead tired, so who knows what I'm forgetting right now.

>>507930014>Wonderful 101>cash grabNigga, if Platinum wanted a cash grab they could have easily just remastered Metal Gear Rising.The fact that they went with Bumfuck Literally Who Wonderful 101 instead shows that the team are genuinely proud of the game and believe that it deserves more recognition than it initially got, due to being a Wii U exclusive that releases in the same week as GTA V.Anyone who downplays the amount of passion and soul poured into The Wonderful 101 has not played it, no questions asked.

>>507930461>could have easily just remastered Metal Gear Rising.The game Konami owns?

>>507930343>In a world where DMC5 and W101 exists this gen >In a world where Bayonetta, DMC4, and NG2 existed last gen >GoW 2018, a fucking movie, is the best action game stop being dumb

>>507930516Konami is know for pumping money out of Metal Gear’s dry corpse.

>>507930582I haven't played W101 and I consider gow 2018 to be better than dmc5. Also >I have played a bunch this generation>In a world where [...] existed last gen

>>507930742>and I consider gow 2018 to be better than dmc5why?

>>507931098Because the fun for me in dmc comes from playing as dante with different weapons. Nero felt like a budget dante, V was absolutely shite to play as. Basically I disliked playing 2/3s of the game.

>>507917169That review felt incredible. Actual high quality combat using multi unites, gun stinger, juggling, it's like someone who puts the time into playing the game enjoys it more!

>>507931228And Nero and Dante still have way more going on than Kratos does in GoW.

>>507930718Sure, because after MGSV they released like one MG game, lmao.

>>507931452Good for you. I disagree. I prefered playing god of war over nero missions any day of the week.

>>507931367>someone who took the time to learn the mechanics has a better time with the game than someone who did not give a shitFor once IGN was based. I remember IGN Italy giving it a 9/10 also when the game launched on the Wii U.

>>507911719They were right

>>507930171It was a stretch goal on the kickstarter that was met within the first hour and I'm pretty sure all promotional material that follows and listed platforms mentioned PC. People just naturally assume Switch because it was a Wii U game and the Switch is a port machine

>>507930019>3-4 score points too highOut of 10, sure.

>>507931627Well then you just have shit taste and are easily drawn in by style over substance. To each his own.

Literal children could understand this

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>>507931749Kickstarter is a bubble. 95% of buyers aren't even looking at kickstarter. Hell I did and they they've advertised so poorly I - a person that likes the game and is pretty plugged in - still forgot.

>>507931957Sorry, I'm not interested to get into autistic internet fights. Especially not if you get so angry that you immediately resort to insults as soon as someone doesn't share your opinion.

>>507913297>W101 has a fucking horrible first few hours even if you go into it mentally primed to like it.As a relative W101 expert who has beaten the game a dozen times or so, I'd love to go back and see what my first run was like. I remember dying a lot, but having a great time regardless, and wanting to figure out how to manage the wealth of combat options at my disposal. I think by 002 I realised the game was much, much better than I initially thought it was going to be.If nothing else this re-release has shown that reviewers just don't get on well with games that demand investment on behalf of the player, and faith that they're in good hands.

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>>507932086Its fine. I get that you can't defend your opinion so don't bother trying.

>>507914414Huh?

Man that gamespot review is just insane. Reviewer literally says objective lies and neglects to mention non gameplay factors that make the game fun, like variety of scenarios, music, writing, voice acting (especially wonder red who is just PERFECTLY acted) and the sense of scaleAll of these points need to be brought up and it's crazy to me that they aren't.

>>507932190Defend against what? Your opinion? That's not how it works. The only difference between is that I don't insult you just because your opinion is different than mine. The only statement taht would resemble anything close to an argument would be this>style over substanceWhich I find frankly ridiculous to say when you compare literally anything to dmc because it would entail that any other game would trump dmc in style which is by far one of it's strongest points. I don't see where you are coming from, I find your behaviour abhorrent and I don't plan on trying to change your opinion by insulting you like you did.

youtu.be/pWa0dZMHYeE

>>507916227>Game journalists used to have tasteGame journalists used to be gamers, now they're faux-geek chic normie career fraudsActually they always were, they just don't have token gamers in the office anymore to tell them what's genuinely good anymore

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>>507932595>“won’t get into internet fight“>freaks out and starts whining over minimal debate starting banterIf you’re going to be a baby and refuse to discuss your opinion in detail, why bother posting on the fourth channel at all?

>>507911719what website is this?

>>507911719Why would it be a 4 if it's a paid review? Unless you just mean because they didn't like it.

>>507932558>says something's wrong with the game's save system on a technical level>says there's some sort of problem with hit detection>never explains what he means by either of these or gives any examples of them causing him problems

>>507930742I can't fathom having this bad of an opinion.

>>507933186Game journalists get paid to write the shit they write.

>>507913297>W101 has a fucking horrible first few hours even if you go into it mentally primed to like it.Fuck right off you stupid apologist. Slicing Laambo in half was one of the best moments in a video game in the last decade.

>>507933351I don't agree with him, but had DMC5 just been 20 Dante missions I would have liked it alot more.

>>507932595Imagine being this assblasted lol

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Surprised that Polygon didn't complain about Wonder Pink and Immorta's fanservice moments.

>>507933776They probably will. Every woman is treated in a horny matter, even Alice who clearly wants to crush my dick with heels.

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>>507933776Maybe it's because most people genuinely don't care THAT much about fanservice (especially in a game like this)

>>507934017Polygon notoriously gave Bayonetta 2 a 7/10 along the lines of "I think this game is incredible but something something objectification of women 7/10"

>>507933495Whats the point of the third eye?

>>507934309Link?

>>507934521google.com/search?rlz=1C1SQJL_enUS833US833&sxsrf=ALeKk02qtoATXBel4PT9metnQl6tKDgEcQ:1589435076343&ei=xNq8XsWlFJGu0PEPnOSM4A8&q=polygon bayonetta 2 review&oq=Polygon bayo&gs_lcp=CgZwc3ktYWIQAxgCMgIIADIGCAAQFhAeMgYIABAWEB4yBggAEBYQHjoECAAQRzoECAAQQzoGCAAQChBDOgcIABCDARBDOgUIABCDAToKCAAQgwEQFBCHAjoFCAAQkQJQ3QlY8x9giipoAXABeACAAVWIAeEDkgEBNpgBAKABAaoBB2d3cy13aXo&sclient=psy-ab

>>507934521use a search engine my dude

>>507934810But link SPECIFICALLY to the part where they say this

>>507911719How did Kamiya go from making great games like Okami, DMC, and Viewtiful Joe to trash like W101?

>>507933354Whoa

>>507912507>>507911719let me guess, ign

>>507911719>NOOOOOOO MY SHITTY BADLY DESIGNED CONFUSING GAME IS NOT PRAISED!!!!

>>507912507>>507911719>Mike Epstein>Epstein

>>507935593Gamespot.IGN actually gave it a 9.

>>507911719I loved it on the Wii U and while I find exclusives good for each platform I'm glad other folks get to play this gem. Nobody could have thought game "journalists" would be able to give this a fair score. I love games like DMC, Bayo, W101, but I'm just not good enough to get SSS ranks across the board especially on harder difficulties. I don't mind though as I still have fun doing what I'm capable of and I tend to still be able to do ok enough to unlock some of the higher difficulty things. These people were never going to be good at the game nor even try to learn. Stringing multiple weapons becomes really easy after you actually get used to it which you're probably not going to do until like mid to late game which is around when you get your last weapon types. Hell you can get by just spamming the two simplest weapons in the game, a fucking line and a fucking circle, one after the other, for combos. I hope nobody passes up the game because of these shitheads who can't grasp the mechanics of any game other than push forward and watch a cutscene of a golfing tranny. Fuck them.

>>507934958Yeah, my point is it's the very first thing that comes up if you google Bayonetta 2 and Polygon. There you Cntr+F and type 'object' and you get the very quote.

>>507935727he will kill himself

>>507931962>Expecting game journalists to be as smart as children

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>>507927350Wiimote and Nunchuk was still vastly superior for Pikmin 3 though, it won't ever be the same.

>>507914705NINTENDO BONUS

>>507916227It was better back then, but not by as much as you're trying to claim.There was still very much an attitude of "well, gave them a high/low score, so ours shouldn't be too different or people might think we're incompetent reviewers".

>>507931962

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>>507914705>Nintendo exclusive vs multiplatUnironically, Astral Chain was shit tier and got super high too.

>>507938281>this ability is mandatory, but we won't give it to youTalk about shit game design

Im not defending this, but I will say I dont understand why they didnt try to avoid this by just including those moves by default.

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>>507938590Sorry you got pleb filtered

>>507938793>implying I'd buy this garbage

>>507938793The game is fucking garbage m8

>Game only got middling reviews before>Rereleased>People expected it to suddenly get reviewed betterWhy? What did you think would change?

I'm going to give the W101 to one of my best friends, but I'm afraid that he'll just quit out of how overwhelming the game can be. Does Easy Mode in Remastered remedy this outside of just being easier? Does it have more tutorials and the like?

>>507938590>Hey there pal, you sure you don't want these two abilities?>Oh doing a no shop items run? Go gettem champ! We believe in you!

>>507939035>Filtered so hard he didn't even get the gameDamn.

>>507940551How about giving me those abilities at the very start if there are so "mandatory"

>>507938418shouldnt Nier Automata and MGR have gotten 4/10s then?

>>507939928>Does Easy Mode in Remastered remedy this outside of just being easier? Does it have more tutorials and the like?I've heard it does, but I really doubt anyone in this thread could tell you for sure what Easy Mode includes.

>>507940747They're not mandatory, you can just never get hit.

>>507939546>An 8 and a 4 are the same scoreI guess math isn't your thing

>>507911719This is what people mean when they say the Nintendo Bonus. Now that the game is no longer a Wii U exclusive the review scores will be far worse. I'm not saying that most exclusives don't have this effect applied to them - they do - but nowhere near the effect that Nintendo games do. For e.g. if Breath of the Wild didn't have the Zelda name and was a 3rd party release it would nowhere near the 97 it got. It's a fantastic game though.

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Quick question, how long is the game? Is it single player? I might get it when it's on sale

>>507940747because you should learn how to interact with the shop while you're at it. A lot of idiots bitch that they can't do the cool combo moves in DMC and Bayonetta, and every time it's because the mouth-breathers haven't checked the store for moves. So here you go. Moves. In the store. Try buying it now.

>>507941518Are you sure? >>507927186

>>507941518I'm waiting for Genshin Impact just to see people shit on it because 'muh, zelda botW clone' and 'muh, anime game' to proof this. I tried the closed beta and game was dope

>>507941552>Try buying it now.How about trying to buy a better fucking game LMAO gottem

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>>507941536The game is about 20 hours long, but clearing it unlocks NG+ and harder modes that revamp the entire game with new enemy placements and so on. It's very much an arcade-y type of action game that focuses on level mastery through replayability.There's a local multiplayer mode but it's nothing to write home about. The meat of the game is in the single player campaign. Think Metroid Prime 2 's multiplayer as opposed to its single player content.

>>507941518If this was true than more review sites would have slammed W101 remastered, everyone else seem to really like the game now with its improvements.

>>507941697to be fair Genshin Impact is phone game with timers, microtransactions and made by a communist state, I wouldnt put my money on that game getting good scores at all.

>>507940747You never play a game where the tutorial forces you to go check out all the menus? It's basically the shop tutorial>HEY YOU CAN BUY MOVES IN THE SHOP YOU SHOULD GET THESE ONES FIRST THEY'RE USEFUL>CHECK OUT THE OTHER SHIT AFTER THE NEXT STAGE

>>507941697>to proof thisNice job ESL chink shill.

>>507941823I see, good to know. It's one of those game worth picking up down the line I guess then, same as DMC5 and other productions where prices dropped really fast in a few months.

>>507941697>Chinkshitlmao no

>>507941921I was talking about the one that's supposed to come out on consoles and pc too I think. I dunno much about it, but I think it was single player? I.e. genshin impact on the phone was ok, but it was on the phone and it is gacha shit, so...

>>507942113The game's already 40 dollars and I'd say that's more than a fair price for its content but yeah, it''s likely going to go on sale sooner rather than later because sadly it's gearing up to flop a second time.

>>507941697When does it release? I didn't get picked for either beta...I really wanted to play Beidou, Mihoyo really has a way with making greatsword characters I like and that everyone else hates cause they're slow and have shitty damage

>>507931962I played wonderful 101 when I was twelve and still did better than these professionals lol

>>507938590It's clearly a shop tutorial.

>OH NOES LE CRITICS HATE LE PATRICIAN KAMIYA GAME LE UNAPPRECIATED MASTERPIECEIt was obnoxious from you cunts seven years ago and it's obnoxious now. No one gave a shit when it was on a dead system and no one cares now.

>>507942624There is no data yet, aside from a generic 2020

>>507943230how does it feel to have brain damage?

>>507943230>LE LE LEAnd here comes Reddit with its unwarranted opinions yet again...

>>507943230>No one gave a shit >no one cares now.They why are you posting?

>>507922352>This is why the only acceptable LPs are those without commentary,You mean longplays?

>>507915697>>507916151>>507917764I'm seriously getting sick and tired of reviewers who don't do a proper job reviewing games and just do a shallow playthrough.

>>507911719A grand total of one, maybe two cons (camera and drawing) are valid criticism. The rest is just proof that game journos are too retarded to function.

>>507944512>drawingYou wouldn't consider that one valid if you had read his review.

Remember back then when an IGN reviewer tried to catch a rose that showed up on screen with his hand

>>507944946holy shit I remember that. where does the time go. I cant belive this game is 7 years old

>>507914705>exclusive vs multiplatHmmm

>>507947830Guess this proves Wii U gamers are more hardcore and overall better at video games.

>>507915029You didn't understand. Idiot.

>>507911719>Switch game gets a bad review>Nintodlers through their tendies out the windowThe cosmic ballet goes on

>>507941518IGN’s Wonderful 101 score went up from 7 to a 9 with the remaster.

>shitt game is exposed for being shitty and Holla Forums contrarians are madmuh kamiya can do no wrong!

>>507948041>Switch game>It's on PC and PS4>throughWhy are ESLs always dumb as hell console warriors?

>To put things in perspective, that chapter 6 boss fight, he hit me three times to die. Not a single time in around 8 games did I even manage to successfully land a single hit. I played using a controller and I just kept struggling with controls even more than 2 hours into the game at that time. I have now played a total of 5 hours and have been stressed for 4… I guess that says it all.I die happy knowing I'll never be filtered this fucking hard.

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>>507949172>I guess that says it allYeah it really says how much of a fucking shitter this retard is. It's like he really wants to impress us with how bad at the game he is, like he's proud of it or something. If I was shit at video games I wouldn't boast about it.

>>507911719I can't help but think that Bayonetta reviewers all play on easy based on the praise they give those games.

>>507938590It's fine hereIt was retarded in doom eternal, the game absolutely requires air control so I don't know why they didn't just make it innate.

>>507950213It reminds me of the reviewers who got mad at Astral Chain since it doesnt give grades on the easiest difficulty, outing them as only have playing the game on easy mode.

You have to remember that Games Journalists are what happens when an english major fails at making it into movie, book or TV writing.Please be understanding. It was never their calling in life, but they still have to do it to afford their lifestyles in NY, LA, San Fran and etc.Please be understanding.

>>507911719>7 years later>journalists still dont know how to play W101

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>>507950368I wish games that grade performance only scored big far crimson F on easy and F+ on perfect runs with a small remark somewhere that read "you want a better grade? now you're ready to play on a real difficulty"or something along those lines just to see the rage on journos

Where's the real W101 thread? This one and the other one are garbage

>>507934314want to make an alien race but don't want to commit and keep is extremely humanoid. Do they ever explain it? I don't remember if in my playthrough I read all the lore.>>507951542>so butthurt you come to complain in a unrelated threadholy shit user what are you doing

>>507951873What are you talking about? I left that other thread because you had that one rampant autist feeding the other autists

>>507951997i thought you were the user going into a frenzy because some anons started to criticize. My mistake. I didn't want a restart of that here with constant baiting back and forth

>>507952752

>>507911719100% accurate review, though. Was exactly my experience with the game, and I liked Bayonetta a lot and love Kamiya for Okami and Viewitufl Joe.I don't know what it is with some action games causing this weird autism in their fans and makes them fail to understand that other people can't don't love the highs quite as much as they do and therefore can't gloss over all the flaws, and you are retarded if you don't admit there are flaws with W101 or God Hand.The only thing that makes no sense is why they rate other reptitive action games like Bayo and especially DMC so high in comparison.

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Reminder that Kamiya said the first playthrough is the tutorial and the game starts with your second playthrough, take that however you will.

>>507915098>why do you think Dark Souls only got 3 GOTY awards when it came out whereas Skyward Sword got over 30?Because Dark Souls is overrated Reddit trash only low-IQ peopel like you like?The fact these games never get GotY awards is literally because reviewers HATE them. They have a deep instilled hate for this franchise incited by having to PRETEND that they like the games and give them high scores all the time because they know exactly that they can expect a shitstorm of autists calling them "casual" if they don't. Just remember Famitsu giving Demon's Souls 20/40 and then suddenly fucking Dark Souls 2 perfect scores.>>507915231It unironically is, and I hate SS. It has level design and also gameplay From Software can only dream of.

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>>507954928>it gets good after you beat it!lmao

>>507938643If you add too many moves right away your average person will get overloaded with options and will just not learn any of them properly. When you give abilities gradually, preferrably at points where the old tricks are getting bread'n'butter, the reaction to a new trick you can do will change from a chore on a list to a one of curiosity, "Oh I wanna try pulling that off!" Then, once that solidifies you throw in the next trick.This is usually done in linear fashion in games with upgrades being given in order over the arc of the game.A store/exp/other point systems, in theory, lets you make the progress non-linear, the pacing of the abilities coming from the time it takes to gather the points for the new skill instead of reaching hard-set story points. It also allows more player control and possibility of different kind of approaches with multiple solutions in level design, where as in linear you usually plan all the levels with just the one new trick in mind.It's also harder to ignore the knowledge of getting a new ability when you first have to "work" for it, then browse, pick and choose it with conscious thought at the store and then lose the "money" you worked hard for, that stuff sinks in far better than a tutorial prompt that Arin will just skip.So my guess is that there was already enough base-abilities and controls to juggle at the start, and they were more crucial, so they just had to drop guts and spring into the progress system even if they are important. And even in the store they couldn't be freebies since then the player just picks them up at the same time with something else and then their eyes glance them over and they might not ever explore using them after they forget all about even getting them.

>>507955070Do you seriously stop playing any hack and slash after one playthrough?

who read reviews ?i only read Holla Forums comments and user reviews when i want a large scope before to play to a game.

>>507912507Someone needs to make a review of this review on youtube

>>507955123if its shit slog during first playthrough, yes

>>507955070OOnly if you are a shitter who got filtered.

>>507912507>careeningThese people really have to put aside their smart-synonyms websites while writing their pseudo-bohemian cuck reviews. This is cringe-inducing to read.

>>507955181fair

>>507955136Faggots don't read reviews, but they look at the scores. Point is, this shit score WILL make some people get away from this game which WILL make the game less popular which WILL make the chances for a sequel even lowerReviews don't matter but they actually do matter

>>507913297>W101 has a fucking horrible first few hours even if you go into it mentally primed to like it.And guess what, the game isn't much longer than a few hours. Considering even you as a fan admit it's "fucking horrible", I'd say bad reviews are more than justified for this overhyped stinker. They were back then and they are now. >noooo, you must go through unfun trash for 20 hours to like it and learn to speedrun!Literally what Sonic autists say.

>>507913518>Still want to buy a game everyone who owned a Wii U knows was DOGSHITMight as well buy garbage like TLOU2 while you are at it.

>>507955382>the game isn't much longer than a few hoursIt is if you bother to finish the story.

>>507955697Considering few hours can mean ~8, no.

I dont give a shit about w101 but>camera issuesVirtually no game has camera issues. Everytime someone complains about camera its a retard who doesnt use camera control, cant make other goos arguments, has no spatial awareness/object permanance, and likely is a liberal boomer who is overly attached to 2D games and still hates games for going 3D.Mayje in some broken ass jank the camera has issues but 99 out of 100 times people complain about camera there is no problen at all. If you bitch about camera in virtually any game you communicate that you're a retard

When exactly is this getting fun, rewarding or in any way stimulating? I'm in that tower for one hour now. The level design is OBJECTIVELY horrible, rancid shit. That's an objective fact. The camera is clunky, you often can barely move it and it's just too close to the wall or inside the enemy, and the worst thing is that for some reason your dodge rolls are linked to the camera angle without set tilt inputs (as you have them in MH, i.e. your characte always rolls left when you tilt to left, no matter the angle). The whole moveset and controls are objectively horrid. Why would you even waste two fucking shoulder buttons on switching weapons? And why are important moves locked behind styles you have to choose at the start of a mission? You literally have only one attack button without a certain style but you have no counter ability, fast dodging and other fun stuff when using it. What exactly am I supposed to emerge fun from here? Tell me, please. And where is the crazy? Do I unlock it when I get all the moves in eight hours (so after finishing the game)?I feel like all these games are overrated autism shit.

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>>507911719wow so it's even better than god hand?

>>507956551>Virtually no game has camera issues.Based tard boy.

>>507914440Is that picture a real quote? What game is that

>>507956584It was the first cuhrazee/character action game'hack and slash/whatever the fuck you wanna call it, so nowadays it feels clunky as hell. Doesn't help that it began as a Resident Evil game and it shows.

>>507956647Name 1

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>>507956649Its real. Anarchy Reigns

>>5079568042 is even worse and almost everything I said still applies to 3 in some way and even 5, which has atrocious, generic level design and is braindead.

>>507957370Saved

>>507911719Im so fucking mad that this game didnt get an xbox one port. Literally the only reasons i have my wii u set up still is for mario kart 8 and wonderful 101. I dont even like platinum that much, most of their games are crap and bloated with awful systems, but W101 is one of the best games EVER. Its endlessly fun, the variety is just right, good level design and aesthetics, best final boss ever. I hope this comes to xbox one day

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>>507957163New ones? Because there are entire console generations with shitty cameras from today's perspective. Wonderful 101 is a pretty good exmaple, though.

>>507957919I regularly play pd1, os2, and n64 games with no camera issues. I have not played w101

Finally Holla Forums will realize the game is and always will be shit.>b-but MUH GURREN LAGANN TIER ENDING LMAOOO

>>507956584>posts dmc1 pic>bitches about 3

>>507958540Yeah, Holla Forums will realize because this one journo can't play the game. I guess Cuphead was shit too, wasn't it, Dean?

>no australian release dateWhat. Why.

>>507959710It's European release, Australia count as Europe in game releases.

>>507959992Does the steam store page appear for eurofags?Cause I'm just getting a not available in your region message.

>>507960201Finland reporting in, no steam store page for me.

>>507960334I see. Thanks user.

>>507960201Yes, in my case is does not appear too. It will be up in 19 May for NA and 22 for EUR.

Isn't it the same nigger from Ace Combat 7 review?

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>>507960569This was him too

>>507915029Here is my review of Super Mario Bros.>You can only take one hit and the game could use something like a warp zone for players who wants to explore or get to later levels faster.>Mario is also quite slow. Why cannot Mario run? Also coins don't seem to do anything>The game could use power-ups>3/10What? I lied on my review? It is just my opinion!

>>507960569And what was wrong there?

>>507961456Playing on novice controls and whining about too much story and not knowing about the mission objectives.

>>507961797Man, this guy is a shitter.

Can someone tell me how the load times are on the switch? The long ass loads are the main reason I stopped trying to platinum the game.

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>>507962113Why did you upload a weird bird? What is this from?

I was 101% sure this game was shilled by some sunken cost wiiu anons. Turns out the game is great. WTF

>>507912507>The “tells” to dodge or parry, done expertly in Bayonetta 2, are hard to notice when you’re surrounded by numerous opponents. It feels like you have to activate defensive mechanics a bit early in order for them to work. There’s no Witch Time equivalent, either. Having the action slow down would do wonders after an impressive sidestep, but that’s only reserved for drawing, for some odd reason.I knew it. I always said, all plebs want from action games is to button mash until the enemy flashes red, then press the dodge button for an epic slow mo dodge so they can get back to button mashing. This is the pinnacle of action gameplay for your average normie.Where did it all go so wrong?

>>507962490As a sunken cost Wii U user I wasn't kidding. I really wanted it to get a modern console port just so other people could finally play it, and I'm glad so many people are able to see its greatness. All we need is a Xenoblade X rerelease, maybe Super Mario 3D World, and my Wii U can finally rest.

>>507917169>>507927186Looks like someone wants a job at nintendo hm?

>>507963494Yeah, reviewing a remaster that cut all Nintendo trademarks from the game. Sure.

>>507912507>wail away The dude can't even figure out correct English. Journalist, indeed.

>>507941697isn't that a gacha game

>>507912507How can a journalist be this retarded?

Yeah the combat's not fun. It's just typical Platinum game shit with a ranking code of paint. The camera is also too zoomed out and I can't make out what my character or the enemies are doing. I got memed into believing that this game is supposed to have the best camera in any action game.

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>>507955070Holy shit this, I rather play a game that starts good and only gets better like DMC3Not something that starts out shit/mediocre and may turn out good at the end of a playthrough

I remember I genuinely hated it and didn'T enjoy a minute of it after the first 20 where it still felt fresh and exciting. Everything is so tiny and you get attacked from all angles with that shitty camera and gimmicks, plus repetitive as fuck. Terrible.

Some qte are atrocious. I hope a mod can revove them

>>507966478which ones? just finished the game and had zero issues

>>507966559all button-mashing one

I owned TW101 on Wii U and while the combat was fun, everything else about the game was terrible. The god awful story and qtes interrupt you every 5 minutes.

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>>507966994QTEs are shit, but I thought Wonderful 101 is one of the better Platinum stories.

>>507912507>These requrie careful left stick inputs to perform.OH NO NO A GAME CAN'T REQUIRE SKILL TO PLAY, IT'S LITERALLY WORSE THAN HITLER

>>507962113Near instantaneous from what I played of the demo

>>507964929You only need to track your leader since they're the only one that takes real damage. Once you get used to thinking of the group as a single character you control, the camera is by far the best action game camera out there. You can see several enemies on all sides at once and never have trouble positioning yourself exactly where you want relative to them. It just takes some practice.

>>507915231classic Holla Forums

>>507912991LOOK AT THE COPEPFHAHAHHAHAHAThe game ALWAYS sucked

after playing the remaster, i think i can say i like this game more than dmc, or any other action game

>>507915098Because dark souls is a niche game and zelda appeal to everyone

>>507911719BASED>remaster shitty game>it's still shit>be surprised by thisAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA