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Nothing. The trophy list didn't ask you to do autistic shit like every other Yakuza game. That makes 6 the best game in the series.
>>507731698She's a FUCKIN WHORE>>507732107I love cheevos and trophies bro
Dragon Engine
>>507732524This.
>>507732524/thread
>>507731698Kiwami 2 is better in every single way.
no arena
* Dumbed down fighting system, somehow even worse than 1 on the PS2 * Maps are small/closed off too much content* Disappointing amount of side stories, some neat ones but there's maybe 3 of them. * The story is fucking boring and the twist is just stupid. Not that Yakuza has ever been 10/10 with stories but it's just so goddamn stupid.* Ending and what happens with Kiyru is really really stupid.oh yeah and remember all those loveable cast of characters from the other games? enjoy seeing them for only 5 minutes total!
>>507731698They rushed it. Also dumb writing even for a Yakuza game (I like the series but it will never win best screenplay).
>>507731698The decision to make another game with Kiryu past 5. Holy shit, there was no chance for a good story after that ending.
nothing, it's the comfiest yakuza with y3 and the characters are wonderful
Y6 Kiryu is kind of like Vaan in FFXII. The majority of the game story has dick all to do with him.
>>507731698Waifufags and loliscum seething over Haruka getting pregnant.
>>507738385Yep. The combat may be weaker, but the game is peak comfy. Hiroshima though small was an enjoyable town. Really liked the baseball minigame for some reason.
Reminder that 0 and 1 are the only good stories and that everything else has been complete shit. Also from a pure game play perspective, 0 has >best combat>best bosses>best side missions>best minigames>best world
>>507731698Combat is trash. It wouldnt even be that bad if your combos didnt completely stop when blocks but somehow they do an enemies dont give a fuck when YOU block gheir attacks. It's completely retarded, less so in K2 but still fucking dumb. What the fuck were they thinking?
>>507731698The combat change and a bullshit story I could give a dead niggers last shit about
>>507738385>>507739181>using a stupid buzzword to defend an awful game
>>507738997
>>507731698Having a non-sexualized woman on the cover. I am serious. It never works.
A disturbing lack of POCKET CIRCUIT
>>507738997Nobody really cares don't hey? She was already ruined as a character in 5.
I've never seen more varied opinions on a series' quality game-to-game than with Yakuza.I actually like it better than unanimous praise/hate, tbqh
Why is Kiryu such a cuck
playing through kiwami 2 right now after playing 0 and kiwami 1 and man the combat fucking sucks compared to those twoeverything else is great though
>>507740056Because the pocket circuit fighter a tofu cuck
No playable saejima
>>507740143because NTR is the most popular genre in nippon
>>507740354Ryuji is still the greatest antagonist in the series.
I'm glad the series ditched the combat. A decade and they still couldn't make good combat. Sega had always made awesome JRPGs, so this is a welcome change.
>>507740849Why?
>>507739938I CAN EITHER TAKE DAT SHITOR YOU CAN GIVE IT TO ME WILLINGLY
Worst combat in an otherwise pretty enjoyable beat-em-up series.
>>507740849Why? He's barely in the fucking game.
When you write the same series for too long, it eventually goes to shit. Look at trails.
>>507740938>>507741291it's not like there are better antagonists not even nishiki
>>507740938>charismatic>funny>kicks ass all over the place>doesn't give a shit about family politics>challenges Kiryu to a fist fight even after being pumped full of bullets
>>507741458Yakuza's story was shit from the start.
>>507741465Nishiki is a bigger cuck than Kiryu.
>>507741509>charismatic>funnyNever got either of these from his character in the original or remake.
>>507738695based
>>507732524low fps dragon
>>507731698kyriu is the chaddest incel I've ever seen
>>507739938Kino
>>507731698Kiryu didn't impregnate his daughterwife.
>>507731698combat felt sluggish and slow probably due to different engine, only game that felt like kiryu didnt kill anyone in it
>>507731698No playable characters other than Kiryu. Playing as Yuta and actually seeing the romance between him and Haruka would make the whole thing feel a lot less forced. Would make the old guy’s betrayal and death hit harder too.
>>507741946>incelkiryu is a volcelhe could slay puss if that was his goal
>>507731698The game that made all the incels seethe
>>507742646how does not liking a shitty writer taking a beloved daughterfu and making her some stupid cunt who gets pregnant as a teen to some random hoodlum make you an incel
>>507741465
Dragon Engine.
>>507742982I stand corrected.
>>507742949let it go user, women like confident men, not beta males like you
fuck this trash series they should've never went dragon fuck 6 fuck 7
>>507731698didn't end of a good note for Kiryu
>>507742982Based
>>507742982>60 year old man with a grand canyon face>takes his shirt off>body of a 22-year-old adonisFunny as fuck, impossible to take seriously.
>>507743685Try having a point.
>>507742982
>>507731698I actually liked the new characters and story.
>>507744768I want Yotsuyu to call my name as I pound her.
>>507742167>>507741854>>507741130>>507739692>>507732524>>507732619>>507732665But K2 uses the same combat system and everyone loves it. 6 hate makes no sense to me. What exactly did K2 do so differently?
>>507741465Judgment somehow manages to have a better one despite not revealing him all the way till the end.
>>507746431>and everyone loves itCool, show me these stats.
>>507746431K2 isn't as clunky/stiff, and actually has weapons. Still not great, but nowhere near as bad as 6.
>>507746750So your claim is K2 is as hated as 6? That is clearly not true. Look at any ranking made by anyone.
>>507746869>isn't as clunky/stiffBut it's exactly the same combat system. They've added a few moves but it's exactly the same core system. Also storing weapons is basically cheating so not even sure why people do that, that's just lame. Games are easy enough without carrying weapons with you
Im about to play Yakuza Kiwami. What am I in for?I plan on playing the rest of the series, the collection is on PS4 right?
>>507731698>what went wrong?A penis into Haruka's vagina.
>>507747378I hope you're not one of the retards that doesn't start at 0.Kiwami is 0's expansion pack.
>>507732107>The trophy list didn't ask you to do autistic shit like every other Yakuza gameGoing after trophies to begin with is autistic.
>>507747521Oh yeah, I beat 0 already. Great game, absolutely loved it.
>>507746431You can taunt
>>507740056Pocket Fighter...had a hard life...
>>507747151>But it's exactly the same combat systemIt's nowhere near as stiff as 6, and the combat isn't seemless so you can't keep dive kicking enemies right off the bat for easy wins.
Dumbed down combat, shitty framerate, blurry mess.Over all watered down Yakuza game and Kiwami 2 was nearly the same way.Really hope Sega finds it in themselves to fix the combat and give you the same amount of options you had in 4 5 0
>>507747935>you can't keep dive kicking enemiesB-but that's the fun part...
>>507746583Judgement made some perfect antagonists. I wanted to cave the head in of each and every one of them.And then they flip the script and make Homura a G right before the finish line. Excellent game.
>>507747984>same amount of options you had in 4 5 0They all had multiple characters though, you can't have all that content packed into 1 chara. And multiple character stories suck, so let's not do that again ever
>>507748042having weapons is vastly superior
>>507748247Just use the shit you find, I never ever carried any weapons in yakuza. Just doesn't seem right
i really liked the new city, the story and just how comfy it is.Combat and part of kamurocho were obviously unfinished, like the game was rushed as fuck. Still, i loved playing it.
>>507748172I still kind of wanted Kaito-san to be the protagonist instead of Yagami. I just like the idea of a bullheaded tough guy taking on a bunch of scientists and politicians more than a charming detective/lawyer.
>>507731698Recently started on Yakuza 0 on Game Pass, liking the Rush styleIs it a good idea to start from Zero for someone who never played Yakuza before?What game would you recommend after Zero?
>>507748578I'd say you should play Zero after 1 & 2, just because so many characters you meet in Zero are easter eggs to later games. But most people who start with Zero seem to like it the most, so stick with that if you're already well into it.
>>507748527I wish Onomichi was at least 50% bigger. By the end of the main story it felt like I explored every little bit of it, never had that feeling in any Yakuza city
>>507745543Kuze no aniki......
>>507748568I figured we got enough of that with Kiryu, and he's plowed through at least one official per game. I liked being a man who operated in the confines of the law (to a degree), means we got a tighter, more well-planned story and more traps to impede the protags. Usually Kiryu just broke through issues by punching them and "yakuza honor", so a nice change of pace.
>>507748578Don't listen to this retard.>>507748676Zero references a lot of Yakuza games, according to his shit advice you should only play it after 4 because it references major 4 plot points
>>507748704Yeah. I wish it was bigger too, but i loved every second of it. It's just a change of pace that worked really well imho.
How much better would 6 be if this was still the intro song in the westyoutube.com
>>507748676Just play what you have, user. Some autists will ask you to play 500 games before getting to this one, but really, if you only have this one, play it and see how it works for you. After that play in order if you can.
>>507749598Is Mine a meme character or what? How is he popular?
No online play for VF5: Final ShowdownNot having a PC port yet
>>507749756They had a ton of songs by that guy in japan throughout the game, all removed by western cucks
>>507749939he's a combination of a decently sympathetic antagonist and the last time the mainline series had a final boss who was kiryu's equal.
>>507749939He was an actual villain.
>>507750330>daigo isn't kiryu's equalSad...
>>507731698nothing
>>507749598I hate how Akiyama is both a great character and barely has a place in any Yakuza story, he always feels shoehorned, even in 4
Why do people mastrubate so much over 2's plot. It honestly just felt very confusing till the end. And I didnt like the Terada reveal much. Imo it had too many villains. Ryuuji was cool though wish he had a bit more screentime
>>507750593it is sad because Daigo honestly is pretty solid, hell he's the best aimbot in the franchise too, sadly instead of being an hitman, where he'd be truly a legend, he's stuck being a chairman position because Kiryu kept wanting to run away from the responsibility that came from it.i actually do appreciate this being addressed in 6.
>>507749598>Yuki based
>>507750823Man, Kiryu really did fuck up a lot of people's lives with his sense of honor, didn't he?And how hard did you laugh in 6 whenit turned out that the letter was meant for Daigo and not Haruka?
>>507746431By Kiwami 2 they were much more experienced with the Dragon engine and had re-added some missing key features like the coliseum and weapons in your inventory.It's why they did the spinoffs, to get used to a new engine before doing a mainline game with it but for some reason they didn't with 6.
>>507744401I fail to see the issue.
There was alot of gripes i had for 6. But the biggest one was Kiryus send off. I understand he had to essentially erase himself to get out of the world he was in, but after spending so long and being so invested in this one mans story i wish he had a happy ending. Even the post game is sad. You cant visit any of his friends :(
>>507750719Akiyama always seemed like the kinda guy who would go great as a spinoff protagonist, and I wonder if that was the plan at some point, cause I could see a lot of him in Yagami's character and backstory.
>>507747570cringe
>>507731698It's kinda unrealistic that a man that chad and muscular haven't had sex with a woman and gets cuked constantly. I know that a lot of fujos follow this series but still.
>>507749939Little screentime but a very heavy commanding screen presence. Probably the best villain of the series.
>>507751156i laughed pretty hard yeah.but yeah Kiryu's life is one of those things where at first it looked like he was doing the right thing, but he kept ending up being the indirect cause for future conflict because he wasn't in a position to prevent future conflict. Daigo's not a bad guy but he just can't fill Kiryu's shoes, which also hurts when the entire Tojo Clan's been in a power vacuum that lasted until its destruction ever since the 3rd chairman died.
>>507731698it was pretty kino desu
>>507751772I do love how Kiryu's logic for putting him in the seat is that he's good at making street gangs, and how much that cost the Tojo in the long run.His recruitment strategy was funny, too:>Be the chairman>No, fuck the Tojo>You're pathetic>Yeah, but at least I'm not Tojo>You owe the Tojo everything>My dad died on Tojo time and got me put away for five years, it's not worth shit.>...Ok you're right but what if I punched you very hard.Also, can anyone explain why Dojima's wife was still so into him when the man was an abject troll-shaped piece of shit? 2's plot was so bizarre.
So boys for a newcomer it’s 0 into K1 into K2, then play the rest if I really want moreRight?
>>507739332Judgement is good
>>507751156>>507751772Why would you laugh, it was a great dramatic twist. For the first time in the series Kiryu looked Daigo in the face rather than acting like a faggot and turning him away over and over again the way he did in 5. This was a great moment in 6. Kiryu owned up to a thing we all knew he needed to own up to but nobody ever said it out loud
>>507752242Yep. K1 will be the weak point here so be prepared.
>>5077393321 is a shit story. 5, 0, 6 and Judgment are good. Arguably 4 as well, it was just a bit rushed in the end there
>>507752662i laughed because i've been waiting for this and i was glad it actually did happen, sadly it happened far too late, but better late than never.i actually did like 6 a fair amount, granted its because of my mindset when i played it (playing it shortly after my own mother's death so the whole family theme hit me pretty hard)
>>507739332>best world>PS3How would you even attempt to justify such a blatantly false claim?
>>507751278KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN
>>507740849Goda is an amazing Kiryu rival. As a antagonist he's okay.
>>507752242You already fucked up. Emulate the PS2 versions of 1 and 2, play the PS3 versions of 3, 4 and 5, then play 6. NOW you can go back and play the Kiwami remakes (and PS4 remasters if you really want to). The PS4 remasters of 3 - 5 remove content that is vital for your enjoyment, play the originals, same for the Kiwami remakes, don't be an ignorant piece of shit like most of these nuYakuza fans are who jumped on the bandwagon because of 0 becoming popular with normies. I've been with this franchise day one since the beginning, I'm fed up of 0fags shitting up these threads thinking they have anything of value to add to these threads when they haven't played the original games. PLAY THE ORIGINAL GAMES FIRST.
>>507752662For me, it was the pacing more than anything else. It's Kiryu's last communication with any of the characters when most of the game has been Haruka's show, and he just right turns into Daigo at the last second.It wasn't undeserved, per se, just ill-timed. Especially when Daigo has been in prison the entire game.
>>507753165Don't listen to this fag. I'm an oldfag who started with PS2 and I can confirm Yakuza only got good with 4. 1-3 are skippable, thankfully 1-2 are remade so you don't need to skip them
>>507753165I have a ps2, I have every console. I’d rather buy the physicals if they aren’t too expensive, and if playing the originals is the way to go. I’m bad with computers, even tho my computer is 9nth gen tier
Chinese Pandering
>>507731698a self contained story makes for an annoying final game of an MC. i actually enjoyed the story but it doesn’t even act like its about kiryu until the finale.
>>507753378You're not fooling anyone, you're a fucking zoomer who jumped on the hype train with 0. You twats immediately killed the series and shit up the fanbase.
>>507753682Nah, I played the original on PS2 in 2006. Dropped it like 5 hours in. Does this make me more or less legit in your worldview? What can I say it wasn't that good. 1-3 just aren't.
>>507749939Mine is great, he just didn't get much screen time and so his progression came and went abruptly. I do hate how he killed himself in the end, that was a cheap Nishiki throwback if you ask me. Mine never came across as impulsive like Nishiki so it felt totally out of place.
>>507753934You sound cringe and low IQ as fuck.
>>507732095FPBS
>>507754432First post bull shit?
>>507754349And you don't sound old enough to have played Y1 on PS2 if that's the best comeback you can come up with.
>>507752884>1 is a shit story. 5, 0, 6 and Judgment are good>5 is goodIn your dreams.
>>507749939Compare him to the other final bosses.>nishiki- tragic but also barely shows up and is pretty pathetic>ryuji- cool and also made the fan poll>munakata- a joke>aizawa- we all forgot him even if the actual fight has some great QTEs>Iwami- same as munakata except he can actually fist fightAlso Judgment is the only one that actually does a proper build up with its final boss.
>>507754889>unironic reddit postYeah 5 is good. Choke on the power of the dreams that I inherited from Kiryu, faggot
>>507751278>Ric Flair man-boobsHaha, no.
>>507753165>play the PS3 version of 3There is no argument you have for 3 to be played on PS3 over PS4 unless you can read Japanese and can play the Japanese version of 3. It removes a whole three substories and swaps out some hostesses (Whose content didn't change, just their songs and looks) in exchange for>Bringing back like 20+ substories.>Bringing back multiple minigames.>Retranslates the game so it's not a half-assed 4kids-esque translation with Mame being Rex for no reason.>Removing censorship from the dialogue (Riona not liking black people in the original compared to the line PS3 3 had)>Brings back all the pre-order locked content and multiple post-game modes and minigames.English PS3 3 is objectively the worst way to experience 3 now and you don't even have to bring resolution (576p upscaled to 720p stretched to 1080p) or framerate (The usual 30) into the discussion. Nothing else about the gameplay or anything changed, everything is the same as PS3 3 on the gameplay front.>>507749939>Takes command of every scene he's in.>Bulldozes the orphanage.>Is actually a threat to Kiryu and is basically a fanatic for the Tojo Clan and Daigo.>Is shown to keep in shape and work out so you're prepared for a fight.>First time in the series to have a dynamic intro.>Fly leads into said dynamic intro which is incredible.He was also a great guy in Ishin and a cool captain so take that into account when also looking at Mine in polls.
>>507753670What did Sega do to pander to the Chicoms?
>>507748568Kaito is fun, but he's basically just a dumber Kiryu. Yagami was necessary to make Judgment stand on its own, separate from the Yakuza mainline.
>>507755697Sometimes, even reddit is good at summarizing retarded plots.
>>507755078>munakataNot really the final boss though, all 4 are the final boss. Really it's Daigo and umm that other guy, the tall one, I don't remember his name. Shit he really wasn't very memorable. Starts with A I think. You know, the guy
>>507756023Haruka was fucked in her pusy by one
>>507755945Riona is in her 20s now...
>>507756059There's nothing to summarize. I don't care how little sense a baseball player fighting a triple crossing yakuza spy agent in an idol concert makes, I care that it's fucking epic.
>>507756076Akai
>>507756549DAME DA NE
>>507756549>Seeing all the kids grown up in 6.>Mitsuo is now basically trying to be a baseball star.>Ayako was a better family mom than Haruka ended up being.>Taichi still wants to be a pro wrestler but working a part-time job to keep the orphanage afloat.>Shiro's a stock market master seemingly Akiyama-tier but on penny stocks instead of important stuff that could make him money.I know they didn't focus on some of the others, but it was so nice to see how they grew up after everything.
>>507747378Play the main story (which is Kino as fuck) and a few sidequests. Don't bother going for all the side content, a lot of the substories are boring.Kiwami 2 is way better in this regard
>>507748236Speak for yourself dude, multiple characters is the best shit that happened to Yakuza.>You can't have all that content packed into one character.You haven't played 5, Kiryu's toolkit in that game is the most fleshed out it ever was.And even that is shadowed by having 4 different styles in 0 and Kiwami.Play the games before (You)ing me
>>507755697>Choke on the power of the dreams that I inherited from Kiryu, faggotToo bad Haruka blew them all in the next game for some cheap Chinese dick
>>507731698It doesn't feel as fluid or intuitive as the other games. The combat also feels kind of gimped and dumbed down in ways that make it harder to innovate and experiment with combos and abilities because enemies either run out of health too quickly or are never in any position to pull of more heavy hitting attacks because they just stand around or just go for basic attacks.Those are my more major issues with it.
>>507757910not him but multiple characters was a giant mistake. Yakuza 4 and 5's plots are both giant clusterfucks in part because there has to be 4/5 different plots going on at once to accommodate all the playable characters. Even then, Shinada is completely irrelevant in 5, Akiyama is completely irrelevant in 4, Saejima is boring as fuck in both games, and Kiryu in 4 gets sucked in for absolutely no reason.
>>507759751>Akiyama is completely irrelevant in 4You never played 4.
>>507759751>Akiyama is completely irrelevant in 4He's half the reason why the plot even starts thanks to giving money to Yasuko, he's friends with Arai who is a double agent and is an important part of the main story, and the entirety of the end of the game only happens because of him. Kiryu is the Shinada of 4, until Hamazaki washes up on the beach he does literally nothing, and his story is entirely about figuring out what's going on with everyone else who is important and then finding out Daigo threw Majima under the bridge to keep the Tojo afloat which makes Kiryu beat some sense into him.
Series should've ended at 2.
>>507760474If it had ended with Kiryu and Sayama getting blown up after their kiss, it would've been one of the all-time greats.
>>507760169>he gives a more relevant character money>he's friends with a more relevant characterThat's like 2 steps removed from the important stuff. Think about Akiyama compared to other games in the series>Yakuza 1Kiryu was framed for murder and 10 years later he wants to know the truth>Yakuza 2Kiryu feels responsible for fucking up the clan in the last game so he gets involved in trying to fix it>Yakuza 3Kiryu's orphanage is in jeopardy, forcing him into action>Yakuza 4>Akiyama?????????I guess Arai killed someone and he thinks that's weird???
>>507753165better than your boomer rant>HURR DURR WHY DO PEOPLE ENJOY THING? I DISLIKE THING SO NOBODY IS ALLOWED TO LIKE IT!
>>507747545Delete this bro i 100% all soulsborne games.
>>507746431Fuck no, Kiwami 2 sucks ass.
>>507761414>I guess Arai killed someone and he thinks that's weird???The woman who borrowed his money disappeared and then died, and he has a massive complex about helping these people on top of getting his money back. Because of this he ends up wrapped up in a massive portion of the conspiracy and wants to see it through to the end both to help and honor her and get his money back. He also ends up teaming up with Tanimura to get to the bottom of Katsuragi's conspiracy which will also uncover Arai's conspiracy.He's involved in everything but Saejima's actions specifically. He's got the same "Forced into action" motive Kiryu has in 3, except this is for two separate reasons rather than just the orphanage and the kids there.What does Kiryu have to contribute to 4?>Helps Saejima get to Tokyo after saving him and fighting him.>Helps Hamazaki gets some information on Saejima with Yasuko if I remember right.>Beats up Akiyama and Tanimura just so he can learn what's going on.>Beats up Daigo to teach him that he's managing the Tojo Clan wrong by selling his closest members out.Saejima is the focus character of 4. Akiyama and Tanimura are both part of the big portion of Saejima's story each figuring out things that ultimately intersect and/or help Saejima out dramatically in the conspiracies. Kiryu is the odd dog out who gets brought in at the last minute not knowing what's happening and then doesn't really do anything productive outside of something off to the side that doesn't matter to Saejima's goals.
>>507740056He's in 6 and 7 too
>>507756076There’s also kido who is literally just a final boss because he’s the only other bad guy there. Also his fight is hilarious because from both a gameplay and a story standpoint because saejima is essentially saitama from one punch man in that fight.
>>507755945have you kept up with y7 spoilers? what did you think of them?
I was hoping the panty hunter shit was canon
>>507740076She was always trash except for the first game maybe. I hate that little fucking gremlin and I hated dragging her around and doing her stupid fucking requests for completion's sake.
>>507761951>excellent port of Virtual OnIt doesn't TOTALLY suck ass, user.
>>507762813I've had two major twists spoiled and from what I remember it's just the usual level of twists. Nothing that crazy but they're still twists. Nothing will ever match 4's twists for sheer lunacy happening in such short amounts of time.
>>507746431CHARGE CANCELLING
>>507750802I just found the twists so stupid they looped right back into being hilarious again>SURPRISE! I FAKED MY OWN DEATH AND I WAS SECRETLY KOREAN ALL ALONG
>>507731698cuckoldry
They had a Chinamen racemix with the Idol daughterfu right? Can't imagine the nips would take that lying down
>>507743685That dude was anything but confident
>>507740849Homolust Mine >>> DRAGON AUTISM Ryuji
>>507750593Daigo wasn't the final boss user
>>507749939I'm assuming fujos like how gay he is
>>507766168Yeah, I'll give you that.
Okay lads, was 7 actually good or bad? Or is it the usual yakuza fans pretending they imported the game and didn't just read poorly rushed translations and pretending like the franchise is ruined again?
>>507766928It'll probably be alright but now there's the whole crowd of anti turn based showing up for this entry. Funny enough the new sakura war game did the opposite where it was formerly turned based switched combat genres it has similar hatred.