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>>507730234When will Konami start making games again? Good ones at that?
>>507730234>hides snake and cv
>>507730234I only recognize bobmer man
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>>507730415When they quit the pachinko business.
Vic-Viper kino
>>507730821I guess wanting your favourite popular franchises not be outsourced and have more games is too much to ask
>>507730234Riou being front and center pisses me off so much. Fuck you, Konami.
>>507731002Just started Sky Girls, it's okay.
Is that a love plus gril dead center?
>>507732070Yeah, Manaka Takane to be exact.
>>507730234>Simon and Alucard imitating their forward jumps from their gamesKonami are hack, but A for effort for the artist(s)
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>>507730234>konamiThe best company in the NES/SNES/PS1 era. Then completely went to shit in the PS2 era. Literally overnight they changed their logo and then cancelled all their IPs. This is a perfect example of how management kills companies, not developers.I will never forgive them for killing Suikoden. Let alone Castlevania, ZOE, Goemon and a dozen other good IPs.
>>507735585They shit the bed in 2008 after which they pretty much produced nothing noteworthy other than MGS5. DS/GBA still got us some good Contra and Castlevania games
>>507735585What about Suikoden Tierkreis?
>>507736737>spin off game set in another universeWhat's the fucking point? It was bad enough when Suikoden IV and V were self contained prequels. They completely got rid of what made Suikoden interesting and unique.
>>507730234>Power Pro up frontIt's that popular?
>>507737934In Japan, the series is pretty popular, outside of Japan, not so much. Didn't it get a localized Wii game with the MLB teams?
Um, Riou? Where's your other leg? For the life of me, I can't find it. Also, it's great to see so much Suikoden representation. But it also makes me remember how much they ignored it.
>>507738375Yeah, on the Wii and DS.
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>>507730234>a montage of characters that will never again appear in a videogame
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>>507730415Best-case scenario is that they license their IPs to either Sony or Microsoft.
>>507739782>>507739848>>507740046>>507740119It's curious how Konami was considered a big videogame company in the 90's like Capcom, Namco or Sega, but unlike those never really got into the fighting game scene.
>>507740667>Outsourcing to americansWay to see your franchise pozzed/ruined. We would never get a 2D Castlevania from them
>>507730234bros....
>He will never get a game again.>And if he does, it'll be slow and suck like the last one.
>>507741028They could still subcontract it to a Japanese studio, and that's the only way we'd get a proper high-budget title, developed by an experience studio. Unless Konami fixes their public relations, or is able to poach some talent desperate for cash.
>>507730234I hate this image. Many of my favorite games are there, trapped in a company that doesn't make video games.
>>507740667Giving their IPs to those companies would be the worst case scenario. The best case scenario would be giving them to middle man studios who actually care about games. Like Treasure or Vanillaware or Armor Project.
>>507740925No kidding, especially since they released at least a bunch of fighting games (Yie Ar Kung Fu, Martial Champion, Dragoon Might, Lightning Legend, Kensei: Sacred Fist)...
>>507741638At least your characters are there. >>507741638 might as well not exist.
Best Konami game is Zone of the enders 2, and Castlevaia Rondo of BloodProve me wrong
>>507741778Linked the wrong post.>>507741408
>>507741795and contra hard corps
>>507741795No need, you're clearly retarded. The best Konami game is Contra Hard Corps.
>>507741609I'm pretty sure they can hire the old teams again, though they do need management changes for it to work smoothly.
>>507741795>>507741954and snatcher
>>507741795Suikoden II and SOTN exist. But those games are also some of the best.
>>507730234Look at all those dead IPs, you guys! They're just falling out of the sky! It hurts.
>>507741408Loved the first game. Never played the sequel or the one on the SNES. Are those worth playing?
>>507742213What I hate the most is how the prominent ones at the center are a bunch of literally whos, and all their classic franchises are hidden or missing. There's like 2 hudson reps, also.
>>507742334They are.
>>507730234>konamiRIP
>>507730234>Vic viper is there>no Lord BritishIt hurts guise. Why do they hate Salamander?
>>507742334Sparkster SNES is great. Sparkster Genesis... uh, not so great.
Which Konami series are even alive now?Bomberman? Metal Gear? Castlevania?I really don't know because the only games I played from that company are Frogger, Parodius (both dead), and Bomberman (technically Hudson).
>>507742810None of them, they don't develop video games anymore. Pro Evolution Soccer is still being made, I guess.
To think, it's thanks to Nintendo for bringing in Goemon as a Mii Costume in Smash Bros. Ultimate that his series didn't end up being forgotten.
>>507742810Bomberman and Castlevania through the mobage
>>507740925>It's curious how Konami was considered a big videogame company in the 90's like Capcom, Namco or Sega, but unlike those never really got into the fighting game scene.Everyone worth a damn left, high churn rate>>507741609>>507741647>>507742028Leave their stuff alone. They're fine now. Making games will just make things worse>>507742810Actual video games? MGS was the last thing
>>507742334The SNES one is pretty good. Follows the same formula as the original, but with a new move to let you regain control and attack in the air. It's not as tight or polished, but still a good time.Never played the genesis sequel, but from what I've seen of it, the rocket mechanics are way different and the art direction takes a major hit. I wouldn't recommend it, but again, I never played it.And don't bother with the modern sequel. It's terribly slow and feels way lesser then a game developed fifteen years earlier. It's like they tried to ape aspects of what made the games work, but didn't understand how to make it flow or feel satisfying.
>>507742810They make Yugioh and pes, as well as that midget baseball game.
>>507730234maybe Konami should sell their stuff to Sega or Nintendo. It doesn't seem like they want to do anything with their IPs
>>507743125>Making games will just make things worseIt's frustrating when you are a big fan and could get a new game, yet it never happens due to lazyness/incompetence/indifference or when it happens its either a cashgrab or a shitty reboot
>>507743510>SegaThey're the one company with more unused amazing franchises than Konami.
>>507740925Excuse me?
>>507730234>Acknowledging NeverDead and OtomediusAbsolutely B A S E D
>>507743510I know you're ignorant and uneducated but to fill you in, there's no incentive to sell when you can renew the copyright for a few grand>>507743531It's exactly why I don't want a game. Let them be.
>>507743510There doesn't exist a company which has a large library of games and uses them all regularly, though if i had to choose i would give them to Nintendo because of an actual Bomberman game, Goemon and 2D Castlevania
>>507737116Ah Gaiapolis! THE hidden gem of Konami's arcade classicsyoutube.com
>>507743803They had a couple of fighting games, yes, but never an actual big franchise of their own.
>>507744139Well, Capcom never could get into professional sports games, or stealth games. They all had their strengths and weaknesses.
>>507743874i know that they will never sell their franchises. Nintendo should buy them at least we would get good games again>>507743917true but at least Nintendo does not produces total shit like the new Contra game, pachinko machines and the Metal gear game
>>507740925>>507744139They had Bloody Roar as fightan
>>507744253>Capcom Sports gameYou never heard of Mega Man Soccer did you?
>>507743125>Leave their stuff alone. They're fine now. Making games will just make things worseThis is stupid logic. Yes, they could make a bad game. But they already made a ton of bad games that led to the death of most of their IPs. Instead of just saying "they're dead, let it go" we should be saying "get the original good designers back to revive the IPs." The problem here is that 99% of those people never want to work for Konami again, because management was that bad. So you either 1) Dramatically change Konami management or 2) Sell the IPs to other companies who the original creators would be willing to work with. Neither option is likely so yes, the IPs will die. But that's not the fans just giving up. It's shitty management and IP control.
>>507738926I'm surprised that MLB Power Pros. didn't become more popular considering that baseball is thought to be America's favorite pastime.
>>507744316That's cheating, Konami didn't own Hudson when Bloody Roar was alive.>>507744348At least mention an actual good game, like Soccer Shootout.
>>507744302They stupidly outsourced that Rogue Corps monstrosity to a western studio. it's the exact same mistake they made in the PS1 era, which effectively killed the franchise.They're gone and it's a shame.
>>507744349>get the original good designersYou dont realize what Konami is, do you? There's a better chance of sega doing that than them
>>507742460Poor Hudson. One of a few great companies that got totally fucked by bleeding staff and getting WAY too cozy with NEC.
>>507744348Professional sports games like ISS and PES. Megaman Soccer was one game they never repeated. I know you're playing dumb and all, it's okay.
>>507730234there was a time where Capcom had only 152 Million in the bank. It seems like Konami has to reach this low point until they get their shit together
>>507744591I still haven't forgiven them for making Mario Party, but I do miss Bloody Roar.
>>507740925>>507741747>>507743803Forgot about this game.
>>507744537IGA said he would work with them again, though that's unlikely considering how Konami is
>>507744685They don't need to. They own other businesses which they decided to focus on over video games, and it has paid off immensely. There's literally no incentive for them to invest in video games development.I don't want to blame this on Kojima's trigger happy expenses account, but he really went all in with the MGS franchise, which konami had to divert funds from other studios to sustain.
The best TMNT game Konami has ever made.
>Why won't sega be good againCheck their financials, they want to be a resorts company>Why won't Konami be good againCheck their financials, they want to be a lifestyle company on top of being a casino vendor>what about SONYMovie company>what about MicrosoftSaas bitch>what about squenixRPG farmWake up and realize what we want isn't what they're shifting to become
>>507744762He should feel lucky that they haven't sued his ass for literally making a castlevania game without a license. I like those Bloodstained games but they're just blatant ripoffs, any other company would have sued him into poverty.
>>507745320best Turtles game ever made i would argue
LET'S D D R ! ! !
>>507744978>There's literally no incentive for them to invest in video games development.You do realise how much money the video game industry makes? Shit is incredibly profitable, its stupid not to invest in it when you already have history with them
>>507744537Read the whole post, dumbass.
>>507745780>be in high school>all my friends obsess over DDR and I hate it>high school is long gone>suddenly I'm playing a bunch of rhythm games and wish I could try a DDR game>DDR is dead because Konami
>>507745320This but the arcade version. That soundtrack, goddamn.soundcloud.com
>>507745320Strange looking that boxart compared to this one I'm used to seeing. It's far more... superior.
>>507745515These are old articles, but I can imagine the virus outbreak has hit their casinos hard. Who knows how it will play out, but my guess is AAA development is out of the question.
>>507745817It does make a ton of money, but it also requires a huge investment for AA and AAA games.
X-MEN, TMNT, The Simpsons, Aliens, Bucky O'Hare, even Asterix...I'm just realizing that Konami had a bunch of games based on Western properties.
>>507730234Who is that girl on the left in red who isn't wearing panties?
>>507747243If you mean middle left, that's Ken Marinaris from Zone of the Enders The 2nd Runner. And that's not skin, that's part of her suit.
>>507746756>but it also requires a huge investment for AA and AAA games.Konami doesn't need to make those games. They just fell into the SquareEnix trap. They had two decades where they made tons of small budget games. And that was the era most people consider to be their best. When the PS2 era came along, they started trying to make all their games look like AAA games. But really 90% of the money was going to MGS. While the other dozen IPs got budgets lower than an SNES game, yet were still expected to pass off as high budget games. Suikoden III got the worst of this and that's why the Suikoden creator left, being very vocal about how shitty Konami was. But no one listened as long as their precious MGS was still around. Then Goemon, DDR, Castlevania and ZOE all died. Still, no one cared. Oh, but the minute Kojima was "fired," suddenly EVERYONE woke up...
Your thoughts on this game?
>>507743145Good to know. Thanks.
Is that Rinko from LovePlus on the right?
>>507748498>Konami doesn't need to make those gamesNo, they do. Because when they don't, they license their franchise to the most incompetent studios they can find. This has been a trend with them, it killed contra, it killed silent hill. They're remembered for their in house work because they had some of the best people in the business.Literally the only time outsourcing went well for them was when they hired platinum to make MGR. Luckily they gave them a high enough budget, it could have been one of those D-team platinum games otherwise.
>>507748797Yes, and Manaka in the middle.
>>507730234>Only Pyramid Head,Sexy Nurse and Robbie the Rabbit appeared cause their soo iconic to the Silent Hill series
>>507748889All their "in house" people left them decades ago. They can't do "in house" games anymore. Hiring out to third parties or selling their IPs is the only option now. And they're choosing to ignore both.>it killed contraAs much as I'm not a fan of WayForward, Contra 4 is considered one of their better games. What killed Contra was the games after Contra 4 where 1) Horribly underbudget and 2) They removed the Contra name from them, causing brand confusion. Management fucked the series.>it killed silent hill.No, ignoring the series for over a decade is what killed Silent Hill. Then when they were on deaths door, they quickly tried to get Kojima to start up a Silent Hill project (just like Castlevania and every other dying IP). And then Konami fell apart before it could go into production. Everything comes back to Konami management fucking it up. Not "changing markets" or the talent or whatever other excuse you're going to use next. Konami just mismanaged their IPs for 15 years, all their talent left the company, then they gave up. It's like they let Viki run the company.
>>507749473And Heather Mason.
>>507749710>As much as I'm not a fan of WayForward, Contra 4 is considered one of their better games.Agreed, I do think Contra 4 was a good game. I was referring to the PS1 games, legacy of war and C: the contra chronicles or whatever. It wouldn't be until the PS2 with Shattered Soldier and Neo Contra that they returned to form, but it was too late by then. Those Appaloosa games left a lasting impression due to how fucked they were.And why do you think they "ignored" Silent Hill for a decade? They tried to bleed the franchise dry with dogshit outsourced game after dogshit outsourced game, somehow making them worse with every iteration. People stopped giving a fuck about the series because every game released after 4 was miserable shit.
>>507750513>admits an outsourced game was one of the best for Contra>wah Silent Hill died because of outsourcing!Why are you working so hard to deflect from the true problem? Konami management drove the talent away. They wouldn't have had to outsource their games at all if they hadn't done that. But as you've admitted, there were still some good outsourced games.Everything comes back to Konami management. Which you'd know if you just listened to ex Konami employees, who themselves point to Konami management as being the source.
>>507744316Eighting made Bloody Roar
>>507750773An exception doesn't make the rule. As previously stated, a good outsourced game doesn't compensate for several garbage ones.It seems you're done having a discussion and want to "win" some petty internet argument. My mistake, I didn't notice I was conversing with a hug-deprived child.
>>507730234>Survival Kids aren't thereFUCK this poster.
>>507751334Yeah, but Hudson published the games.
>>507748646It was a pretty decent srw clone.
>>507751386>An exception doesn't make the rule. As previously stated, a good outsourced game doesn't compensate for several garbage ones.You only provided a few examples. And you're trying to put the blame of Konami's downfall on outsourcing when Konami has far more internally made games which were shit. And their downfall started before the games you mentioned.>It seems you're done having a discussion and want to "win" some petty internet argument.No, I want you to realize where Konami fucked up. It was their change of management around the time the PS2 released. As well as spying on their own workers and massively undercutting their own games. As stated by the developers who left Konami.
>>507751997>You only provided a few examplesYou only provided one. I'm not your babysitter, go beg for attention somewhere else.
>>507751948>TakaraThe most random fucking shit I've seen in my life. Was this before or after bamco became a thing?
>final Harmonia game never ever>like 100 characters have unfinished story arcs
>>507753158Before, and having Tyson vs Snake vs Yugo vs Optimus will never not be cool.
>tfw you realize the best Castlevania we've gotten in over a decade is Smash Bros>same for Street Fighter, Pac Man and MGS
>>507730234Any Hudson characters in OP pic that aren't a Bomberman? None are jumping out to me.
>>507730234Celebrating 50 years of making great games! Oh wait they stopped doing that decades ago
>>507756508Atleast its something
Celebrating 50 years. Only 40 of them any good.
>>507749720where
>>507756508Smash is basically a retirement home at this point.
>>507756934Shut up boco.Lilith's the superior succubus.
>>507757704Whats that got to do with Konami?
>>50775693440? I think you mean about 20. 1985-2005 was their good years.
>>507757743They stopped being good in 2008
>>507757738You're rightI am just used to that gag.Guess this bad end Charlotte will do.
>>507757743I'd be generous and give them up to 2010, just for the DS CV games.>>507757917More like best end.
>>507756508I love Maria! And I genuinely wish we got her or Alucard instead of a Simon clone.
>>507750778>>507750856It's impressive how much Tokimemo merch Konami was able to pump out in only a handful of years.The entire existence of Tokimeki Memorial is kinda strange. It was one of the most popular and influential games of its time in Japan, yet it's a complete unknown entity in the West. It doesn't even have a "Here's this massive game from Japan that you've never heard of" cult following.
>>507757995Too bad Castlevania never went too far with bad ends/corruption scenarios.Here's annette.I swear there were some succubus Maria pictures, but they are pedobait.
>>507736737The only noteworthy thing about this game is how sped up the dub is.
>>507758337> Too bad Castlevania never went too far with bad ends/corruption scenarios.There‘s Simon and Soma as obvious examples, Soleiyu too
>>507730234I hope Konami sells every IP they own and then shuts down
>>507758570Meant Richter
>>507758570Closest i've found with adult Maria is this.And you're right, but nothing that extreme or interesting.
>>507758784And maybe Shanoa.But since she can control it...it really shouldn't count.
>>507758632I‘d rather they just sit on their ips than sell them to someone who makes an unrecognizable mess out of them
>>507758632>I hope Konami sells every IP they own Good End.>and then shuts downNah, they won't ever need to shut down. They just keep making passive income from Pachinko and outside investments. They don't need to make a single new unique product and they'll keep making money (like Disney).
>>507758784"Hey Richter, what'cha doin'!"
>>507759205Sell all IPs to Capcom and Nintendo while keeping the rights to Pachinko.
>>507759313"Resurrecting Dracula so the fight can go on for eternity, Maria.Wait...where's Anette?"
>>507759338They'd really need to sell the IPs to specific companies. Selling all their RPGs and Adventure games to Capcom would be stupid. But then selling their Fighting games and SHUMPS to Nintendo would be bad too.Doesn't matter either way though, since they won't sell them. They'll just sit on them like a bitter old man. Just to stick it to the original creators, so they can't ever make new games.
>>507759460"Oh, she got stuck in the Tower. Kept muttering something about hating clocks."
I'm sorry Bloody Roar bros but I'm starting to lose faith about getting a sequel.
>>507730234So is Konami ever make anything not Pachinko, PES or Yu-Gi-OH related ever again?
>>507730234what is the point of celebrating when they just make pachinko machines now?
>>507730234>No Snatcher or PolicenautsFuck this
>>507760889They released some nice Anniversary Collections last year. But thats about it.
>>507730234Give me Mystical Ninja Goemon.IMPACT!!!!!
>>507761095Wish the released a Bomberman anniversary collection with the original NES game, one of the PC Engine games ('93 or '94), one (or two) of the Super games, Saturn, World, one of the 64 games, and even one of the GB/GBC/GBA games
>>507730234is better than capcom
>>507730234why are some of the most soulful properties in vidya stuck with one of the most soulless companies in the industry?
>>507742993>mobageMight as well die.
>>507730234where's my waif?
>>507761713If it's any consolation, every IP will suffer the same fate. Once the original creators no longer have control and the management start milking them to death, or just kill them without making any more. It's happen to every IP I love except Dragon Quest. And you can bet the minute Yuji Horii retires or dies, the series will crash and burn.
>>507750778What was Tokimeki Memorial about and why was it so popular?I remember some magazines talking about it being thee shit way back in the day but i can0t read moon for shit.
>>507751948Why did they decided to make Simon a red head?
Konami secondary hereI have played most of the titles from the entry level stuff: MGS, Silent Hill, Castlevania, and Bomberman I guess.Where do I go from here?
>>507764146It's a dating sim that basically set the standard for the industry. You can think of it doing for dating sims/visual novels what Dragon Quest did for JRPGs. Why it got so popular, I can't really say. Because I personally didn't find it that unique or appealing. But I'm comparing what it is to the games that came after. Which the games that came after imitate it quite a lot. Especially Key games.The big notable thing about it, aside from becoming the standard for dating sims to come, is the head director and writer was IGA. Who went on to take over Castlevania. And it really shows, since after he took over, Castlevania turned into a bad soap opera with fujo designs.
>>507764743Suikoden I-III. Play them in order. You'll know why when you play them. Also, enjoy the best trilogy in RPG history.After that, try Zone of the Enders and Mystical Ninja.
>>507762551So what you are saying is that we should kill every person in the company after the talent is gone?
>>507764464Thats how Ayami Kojima drew him in the PS1 port of the X68000 remake of 1.
>>507765187No, the company should try to get their talent back. And fire the management responsible for driving them away. Which I said in various posts in this thread.