How come animes went to shit after the 90s?

Sure you're not, samefag.

People who talk about anime don't realize how much of it is constantly being spewed out every season. 20-40 anime every season, 4 times a year. Constantly. Most of it is trash, not even worth watching the first 3 episodes. But every once in a while something good will happen. It's statistics. With all the people involved, one good writer will happen to work with a good director for a studio that puts at least a little effort into the animation. I'd say there's probably one anime every other season worth watching, so like 2 a year. I don't really think it was ever better tbh. For every good anime from the 90s, there are countless shit that nobody ever bothered to upload to the internet because it's fucking shite.

For example this last season had something amazing come out that wasn't even anime. It was chinese fingerpuppets.

Wew

user, you could screencap posts all day but as long as an autistic sperg believes you're samefagging, you're just going to be accused of shopping out (you)s.

Why so retarded?

GITS is shit, but you are wrong "most popular 80s and 90s anime" being terrible. Some popular things are terrible and are only popular because they were meme'd that way by critics and the like. GITS fits right into that slot of pretentious bullshit that is made popular because most of the people who like it don't understand it or understand what's wrong with it.

Feminism and joos

Like Lain?

Consider stuff like Dragon ball Z and tell me it's good again. 99% of the super popular anime in the west from that era was utter shit. It was the cheapest stuff to license that some how found a market any way.

I enjoy old anime, mechas my pet genre and all the good stuff is in the 80s. But I can't take violence jack or fucking Akira. It's just not good.

It's the same way everyone jerks off over FF7, it's not a good game, it's just your first game.

Akira is good though.

95% of anime is shit just like 95% every other category of entertainment is shit. Nothing special there. The smell or consistency of the shit varies as time passes but it remains fundamentally shit.

Ta fuck

Dragon Ball Z is good, it's just not thought provoking, art, or well written. It is good for sating the need for action and raw determination in young boys and teenagers which is who it was originally aimed at.

Nah m8, I would say something like 98% of anime is shit while only 95% of movies are shit.

But it's not, it's got too much filler that doesn't go any where productive. The resurrection Z film is DBZ done right, it skips all the filler and just tells a DBZ story that's enjoyably masculine and actiony.

The original DBZ is like 500 episodes of which 400 is filler.

b8

Hey faggot. Go tell me what Dragon ball super is if this isn't true.

I kind of agree with you as a whole DBZ is too long and has too much content that is not entertaining and just downright badly written. But a lot of television is like that, it's something that is expected, to have a lot of filler, because of the nature of broadcasting I guess. The good parts of DBZ are really creative and good. Perhaps long running series should be graded differently than standard 12-26 episode series.

The original DBZ is like 300+ episodes of which maybe 40 are filler . That's including bits of filler added to non-filler story and the Garlic Jr. saga which sucks.

Bitching about the filler stopped being relevant when we started having free instant access to episodes and no longer had to wait for "Next time on Dragon Ball Z". None of DBZ's filler ruins the actual plot, and very little of it interrupts actual plot. It only ever seemed to drag or waste your time in an episode because you remember a time when you had to wait to see the next episode. You don't have the luxury or right to bitch about it now.

DBZ is 97 hours long not including opening/endings. How many of those hours are just people standing there glowing with a wum wum wum noise or screaming for powering up?

The wait between episodes is not the issue. The fact that it moves at a snail's pace and hours of your life are dedicated to reaction shots of the cast gasping over and over occupies that time.

perhaps the worst part of DBZ is that fans dismissed any attempt to recapture the adventure of the original dragonball
Saiyaman was quickly shoved aside, an entire episode was cut from the American run (Gohan befriends a robot which then sacrifices itself to save him. Can't have manly tears in a children's show), etc etc. Ironically, travelling to Namek and everything leading up to Goku's arrival was actually pretty good on re-examination compared to the constant fistfghting and ki charging
hell, the filler arc created entirely for the anime where Garlic Jr. turns everyone into vampires was fucking badass and more true to the original show's spirit than anything that followed

Fuck this liberal studies definition of what art is.

No one cares, samefag.

Yu Yu Hakusho was good for like 10 episodes and then it turned into Dragonball garbage.

A lot of people also believe modern anime is "worse" because they believe SJW manginas on websites like ANN are actually wroth more than two shits as "critics." Thus you produce this result where shows have to either be artsy fartsy crap or pander directly to American sensibilities and prudishness to get good reviews.

Oh, wow, it isn't like the average person wastes more than that a week. If it doesn't entertain you then it doesn't. I'm not going to lie and say the filler was awesome, but you are exaggerating. These same exaggerations have been popularly used to shit on DBZ since early Toonami and stems from exactly the shit I said. Waiting for a new episode and bitching that there was too much talking. You can fucking skip any shit that bores you now.

The problem is actually that DBZ is produced in a way to stretch out scenes and spread serialized chapters into several episodes. Also most people have only watched DBZ when it used to be aired, and networks would routinely restart arcs, re-air the same episode all throughout a week, and generally make the viewer believe that the show is taking longer than it should.

Toonami in its original run is the most notable example of this. They managed to make DBZ seem longer by airing a new episode once a week, showing the same episode monday through friday, then repeating that pattern for the next episode the next week. Then once they reached a point in a saga - not even at the end of it - they would restart it from the beginning of the arc. There are only 52 weeks in a year and even if they didn't take breaks, this is what resulted in DBZ taking several years to finish airing. And that's years after the dub was completed. Although people bitch about it now, Toie in its prime knew how to maintain the hype and continue to add buildup.

Talking is fine but a lot of DBZ is just white noise and you fucking know it.

It didn't.

People can conflate 80s and 90s anime with as few as four anime (Akira, GitS, Bebop, NGE), and rarely more than ten to twenty. But the number of TV series, OVAs and movies that started between 1980-01-01 and 1999-12-31 is 760, 938, and 662 as listed on AniDB (TV specials not included). The number of anime shown on Adult Swim in 2000-2005 was about 25, and for 1998-2005 Toonami it was about the same. People saw a tiny slice of anime pre-selected by distributors and networks, and out of that slice only a few works are commonly known today. It's not just that people are cherry-picking; they also have a distorted understanding of what anime was like before the 2000s and 2010s, and have false expectations of what anime is supposed to be like. Bebop is an outlier by a director who's into American pop culture, not a representative example of what anime is meant to be. Cyberpunk was a phase that receded in popularity in both Japan and America.

After 2005 Toonami petered out, anime programming declined on Adult Swim (Death Note and Code Geass were shown in 2007 and 2008, and what do you know: they are some of the most commonly cited anime of the 2000s), and after a 2006 peak the foreign anime market crashed and the anime boom ended in America. Right after that came the smartphone and social media apocalypse and everyone got on the internet. Many headed to 4chan after all the Internet Hate Machine and Project Chanology coverage, and caught a glimpse of the bigger picture of anime as filtered through /a/. People went to other places too, and the social mediafication and consolidation of the internet made it easy for them to spread (dis/mis)information and memes, and build consensus.

People were working with what they knew of anime based mostly on Toonami and Adult Swim and what they knew of it based on fragments they saw on the internet. They understood little but thought they understood everything, and a lot of misconceptions started to develop and spread. They jumped to conclusions instead of learning anything, and didn't have a clear picture of what anime was coming out or what that anime was even like, who it was for, how well it sold, and so on. There are also significant and very complex differences between Japan and America in culture, society and media that people aren't even aware exist, and the flow of information from Japan to America is not great. So the situation was like blind men studying an elephant and relying their impressions to each other through a game of Chinese whispers in an echo chamber where the loudest voices win.

It's commonly believed that light novel adaptations have taken over, but they are actually outnumbered by manga adaptations and even original anime (there are a grand total of two LN adaptations this season, or three if you count shorts). It's believed that shows like K-On have taken over, but there have only been a few per season, sometimes none (very few of which have sales numbers even a quarter of K-On's). It's believed that shows like K-On feature pre-pubescent characters, but they are usually in high school or middle school (anyone with basic anime literacy can tell the difference). People can't decide if shows like K-On are ones where girls act cute and nothing happens or ones where a male protagonist sexually harasses the female characters and there are panty shots all the time. Shows like Girls und Panzer, Flying Witch and Hibike are conflated with K-On even though they are very different. Everything KyoAni has ever made is conflated with K-On. Fanservice is accused of being rampant and existing only to drive up sales, when in fact fanservice-heavy shows aren't made that much and don't have strong sales (fanservice has also been around since the 70s). The number of harem shows is overestimated by an order of magnitude. Every isekai (alternative world) anime is thought to be identical to Sword Art Online, even though that isn't true at all. People complain bitterly about isekai and light novel shows being intrinsically terrible even as they vote Re:Zero and KonoSuba as the best of their seasons, oblivious to the contradiction. They get excited about Erased saving anime because it's finally a mature and serious show, even though Concrete Revolutio, Iron-Blooded Orphans, Sakurako-san and The Perfect Insider had aired just the season prior and there's nothing new about any of them. Almost every single show that you would expect Americans to approve of or be interested in is ignored while people sit around complaining that there just aren't any American-friendly shows being made anymore. And so on. The gap between what people believe is happening and what is actually happening is enormous. It seems like they should often be able to sense that something is wrong, but evidently they've become experts at tuning out cognitive dissonance.

(cont.)

People don't watch anime or watch very little of it. They don't understand the limits of what little knowledge they may have. They aren't aware of their own biases and their own thoughts. They judge and develop expectations for anime through the lens of American culture even though it isn't made in America or for Americans, and they frequently employ nonsensical double standards in the process (fucking is ok in HBO shows and European art films, especially if it's violent rape, but get that degenerate otaku-pandering beach episode commercialist fanservice shit outta here). They can't tolerate things that are unfamiliar to them, and even something as simple as watching undubbed anime may be too much. They expect that everything must adapt to them, not the other way around. They're weak-minded, easily manipulated by memes and hardly possess any free will (the internet noosphere tells them exactly what to think). They prefer mediation and abstraction over direct experience (slice of life anime is bad and all the same, according to what they've heard, and since K-On and Amaama to Inazuma are both slice of life they are both bad and both the same). They think being angry and cynical and hating everything is cruise control for cool (90% of anime is shit, Sturgeon's Law lol), or maybe they just enjoy getting outraged over things.

Maybe anime just isn't for them and they should stop trying to struggle with it and go do something else, but I guess nowadays everything needs to be for everyone and everyone needs to state their strongly held opinions on everything even if they really, really have no idea what they're talking about.

It was decent till the mid 2000s and got shit around 2007-2008. Haruhi released in 2006 and started the High School SOL shit trend we've been seeing all these years. Lucky Star (2007) continued it and then finally, K-On! (2009) opened the floodgates of moe/kawaii crap seen so much in anime now. Notice how all of these were made by KyoAni. Notice how shit their recent shows have been, all being moe/kawaii shit too

90% of everything is crap, especially the mainstream crap. And the mainstream shit is what's forced out there to become popular, so you end up thinking "wow all of this is shit".

why do your post arrows look like that?

I love when people get it.
Why is everyone today so obsessed with the idea that EVERYTHING must pander to them? You see it on all sides of every issue, everyone is just constantly mad about nonsensical shit like race, gender, etc in fucking TV SHOWS. They all take fucking entertainment so seriously it's just completely absurd, I can't take anyone seriously any more. This is a thing I've spent ages talking about with the few friends I have left, we can't come to a conclusion. My best guess is that it's just the latest distraction for the masses: bitch about fiction on social media instead of actually going out & stopping the people who own the world.

With a few exceptions, anime is dogshit

Anime goes on /a/.

Butthurt goes on >>>/rulecuck/

Haruhi features time travel, time loops, reality warping, parallel worlds, paranormal abilities, extraterrestrials, and mysteries. The episodes were originally shown out of order and the series opened with an episode that was entirely a badly done amateur movie. But sure, let's pretend Haruhi was just some nondescript SoL show and that high school SoL/comedy/harem/ecchi shows weren't already plentiful before that.

I went through 2011 and 2012 on Anichart (K-On's second season aired in Spring 2010) and could only spot six shows that are substantially similar to K-On, and I'm not sure about two of them. Three of them are also sequels, and two of those sequels are for series that predate K-On or are contemporary with it. During Summer 2016 there was only one show substantially similar to K-On (out of 41), Spring had three such shows (out of 45), and Winter 2016 had none.

Cuteness has been a part of anime for about as long as anime has existed, and Japan itself has often been called the culture of cute.

Koe no Katachi is a drama about a deaf girl. Phantom World is a fantasy comedy series that leans towards the harem/ecchi direction. Hibike is a drama. Amagi is a fantasy comedy about a guy recruited to revive a magical amusement park, so we're hardly on K-On territory here. Kanata is a relatively dark fantasy story. Free! is about buff half-naked dudes. Tamako Market is SoL, but not the same as K-On. Chuunibyou is a love comedy. Hyouka has a mixed cast and is about solving mysteries. Nichijou is an absurd comedy.

I can't tell if you people don't actually watch anime and only pretend you do, or if you're just completely brainwashed by memes and now only exist to blindly recite them.

Japan's economic bubble popped, so studios had to resort to pandering to the lowest common denominator to survive.

Except after the mid-2000s, 100% of anime became shit. The stories are either incoherent or derivative and the animation is either more rotoscoped than Fire and Ice or just a notch above Family Guy tier. Not to mention, the digital coloring makes everything look more cheap and sterile.

If you grew up watching EVERY anime that aired in Japan in the 80s and 90s, you'd complain about it then too faggot.

>>>/reddit/
>>>/facebook/

It already pooped by the time YYH aired retard.

YYH is also just another shonen series, you niggers are championing it because you saw it when you were 12 on Toonami

Bump

Nigger they aired new episodes every day when a new "season" premiered, and after the season finished they'd rerun episodes into the ground until a new batch of episodes were dubbed and then premiered usually in September.

No, that was because Funimation was actually losing money when they originally outsourced their dubbing to the Ocean Group in Canada while syndicating the show in 1996. In 1998 they got Cartoon Network to broadcast the first edited 50 or so episodes then at which it actually gained an audience. At that point Funi decided to move their dubbing in house while Toonami reran those edited Ocean dubbed episodes constantly until Sept. 1999 when they finally premiered Funi's incredibly shitty and don't you fucking deny it in-house dub of the Freeza arc. From that point on it was basically a new batch of episodes would air in September, then stop, then get reran until Funi had another batch to air. This lasted until mid-2003.

Toei had nothing to do with fucktard

No it fucking wasn't, that arc was fucking poorly animated trash, only a notch above Super in visual quality. It just rehashed worn out ideas like Piccolo becoming evil again.

The pandering meme postulates that Japanese creators do not like anything involving sexuality and therefore only produce works featuring sexuality because they have to or because they are exploiting people who "fall for it." But this would mean that people who do like sexuality (the fans) are incapable of becoming creators, since there do not exist creators who like it. That doesn't make any logical sense, and we have an incalculable amount of evidence to the contrary in Japan's doujin scene. Many people start off doing doujin works and go professional, and may continue publishing doujin works even after that. Sexuality has also been present in manga and anime since at least the 1970s, decades before late night anime. And if sex sells, as people keep saying, then we should be seeing a correlation between fanservice and sales, except we actually see an inverse correlation.

The lowest common denominator would be mainstream audiences, who mostly do not watch late night anime.

Whatever that means.

Rotoscoping is very, very rarely used in anime. Here's a comparison between Family Guy and some anime scenes:

youtube.com/watch?v=_SKdN1xQBjk
sakugabooru.com/post/show/16157/

youtube.com/watch?v=nLvZ1rzHDSQ
sakugabooru.com/post/show/24121/

youtube.com/watch?v=0UUNiRqopcU
sakugabooru.com/post/show/20710/

youtube.com/watch?v=2pNTrYd-4FQ
sakugabooru.com/post/show/22090/

Digital coloring mostly just means unlimited colors and huge labor savings.

WEW YOU LIKE ANIME! But why should anime be confined to yucky /a/?

They didn't. You're just a normalfag who watches whatever's on after Spongebob.

>>>/a/

Do you never get tired of making these posts? Do you have nothing going in your life except patrolling Holla Forums for anime threads? Why are you on an imageboard at all?

>>>/a/

Sage nullified.

Exactly. Americans are brain washed by religion and feminists to hate sexuality, thus the idea that the Japanese freely include it in their works must be some kind of conspiracy. US male nerds are even more pathetic because they want their hobbies to be accepted by society in the mainstream and especially the feminists they think represent all women. I'm glad the Japanese do what they want. If the US is so fucking great, why do we have shit like Steven Universe to show for it?

anime goes on >>>/a/

shhhh it'll be over soon

>>>/a/ is the board for anime

Anime goes on /a/.
/freech/posting goes on /freech/.

99.999999999999% of anime is shit.

No one is opposed to "sexuality". They're mainly opposed to cheapness that intends to quickly and temporarily titillate people.

Constant panty shots are no different from the constant cheap jumpscares in horror films, laugh tracks in shitcoms, and "cool" explosions/slowmo present in action movies.

Anime goes on the anime board, which is /a/.

Sounds like feminist wank. Sexuality is okay as long as it's not sexy and invokes "male gaze." Go back to Reddit, you don't belong here. We don't need undercover SJW traitors here.

anime belongs on the anime board. >>>/a/

panty shots are the same as sitcom laugh tracks
i don't follow
well excuse me mr kino

Sorry that I insulted your cummies by thinking that cheap shit is cheap shit.

They're techniques used in several shows to elicit the exact same response from you. Fine the first time you see them, but tiring after you see several shows doing the exact same thing for the exact same purpose.

I take it that you haven't seen a lot of them. So consider watching film with better acting and editing.

that's pretty vague. i still don't think it's a logical analogy.
a lot of what?

Nothing ambiguous about the same technique being used to get the same response out of you.

a lot of animu, please use your head.

People watch entertainment to be entertained, shocking. Fuck you sexy is off-limits libshit mindset. If you cry over ecchi, don't watch it, fag.

Go back to Something Awful with the other goon elitists, fag.

If it's live action, there's no limit to what people will accept. In fact, the more depraved the content is the more people will like it. America also has the world's biggest porn industry and many of their music videos are almost softcore porn. For anime, however, there is only zero tolerance, and even the most minor display of sexuality makes people chimp out. "Moe" is even more hated.

It's considered far too abnormal to have sexual and especially romantic feelings towards drawn characters that don't even look like real people. Masturbating to rape scenes is fine though, that just shows you have a healthy interest in real women and children.

Sage negated.

Memes like this are shit.

youtube.com/watch?v=LDZX4ooRsWs

You've seen zero, which isn't a big number for anyone to overcome.

it's not, though.
pic related is a stylistic choice. it's aesthetics. just the same as brown and bloom in "realistic" FPSes, black and white in arthouse films, rippling muscles in FotNS, or big chins in Kaiji. to say all aesthetic choices are the same because they elicit a response is stupid.
laugh tracks aren't an aesthetic choice. neither are jumpscares. your comparison doesn't hold up.

anime goes on /a/. not Holla Forums

:-)

>>>/a/

:-)

That music video was trashy too, I don't watch that content in general, but I can see how it can appeal to people who like poorly-animated and poorly-written tripe.

So you think that the use of panty shots aren't intended for sexual reasons, just like how jumpscares aren't intended to scare people, or how laugh tracks are intended to make people laugh?

Anime fans are cancer on Holla Forums. They're worse than furfags since they defend their crappy medium.

This, to be honest.

Enough of the nip cartoons.

It's all about beta male fans. Look at how shit US comic books are right now. It's because the loser male fans enable them and actually bought into feminist arguments verbatim. Animu shares some of the same losers as a demographic in the US, but they thankfully have no power over the content. Also a lot of people embraced that side of anime and this makes the goony libshits even more angry when all they really knew was Coboy Bebop from Adult Swim.

Also I love the fact that goons are making Kino arguments in this thread when the idea of Kino is widely mocked as pretentious and stupid on Holla Forums. Obviously shows they don't understand memes at all.

You know this is just trolling, too.
Goons being goons.

no, but you obviously don't get what i'm saying.
let me ask you this
is pic related also cheapness only meant to temporary titillate?

No.

Why wouldn't we defend it?

I don't see it constantly used in contemporary film like panty shots are used in contemporary anime, so no.

this goes on /a/

Goes on /a/

this is suitable only on /a/

Holla Forums is not the board for anime

so what? is it cheap and only meant to titillate or was it a stylistic choice?

ebin

~ t. goon

anime = /a/

Holla Forums is for live action film and television

Is that what you read on the Internet? That there are "constantly" pantyshots in anime? And why are you so fixated on pantyshots anyway? Is that the only form of fanservice you've ever heard about in anime?

Sage denied.

The fake debate is cute.

goes on the anime board

:-)

this belongs on /a/

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Holla Forums is not /a/

:-)

>>>/a/

no discussion of anime will occur here

Nah.

:-)

every anime thread will be spammed

Most anime "entertainment" is shitty in every aspect though. The bare minimum it can do with it's poor animation is have a good story, but it fails at exactly that.

Not fixated. I just stated that it was cheaply used as jumpscapes and laugh tracks. People are weirdly trying argue that panty shots aren't sexual scenes used in a generic manner though. It's hilarious.

Quit moving the goalposts.

adorable, but you're doing it wrong. stop shitting up threads you don't like

except it's happening right now and you can't do anything about it.

every anime thread will be spammed.

You're more autistic than bronies, good lord.

This meme is shitty in every aspect.

See

Adorable, but you're doing it wrong.

i'm not. i'm talking about your original point. don't tell me you already forgot what you were arguing.

no we're not. we're making good points that you either don't understand or gloss over because you know you're wrong.

gg b.o.

lol, so it's that guy
does this image offend you?

remove anime goons

:)

wow dude ur a puppetmaster

This is one brag-worthy raid

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You do realize that Family Guy was outsourced to Koreans, right? Americans simply storyboarded it. Western animators supercede it. Here's a contemporary example.

Not used in a generic manner like panty shots since it's not used in contemporary film.

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Going back to the fake argument, huh?

Honestly, I don't even watch tv and movies barely anymore, and if I do it's some shit from the 80's or something. I was anime constantly though. If anything, anime is the superior form of entertainment.

Take it to >>>/a/.

of coursh

Yes, and YYH isn't very good.

I don't really like any of the shows I watched on Toonami as a kid. All of the older stuff I enjoy I wasn't exposed to until the past few years.

I'm not talking about sex, I'm talking about how the writing is dumbed down now so that all the retards understand it.

I meant the lowest common denominator in weeb and otaku circles.

Huh, I guess you're right. It still looks a lot worse than anime from mid-80s to the mid-90s.

Doesn't change the fact that it looks like shit compared to ink.

But /a/ is full of normalfags who delude themselves into thinking that everyone else is a normalfag.

The idea of Western animation studios is pretty much a meme at this point and hasn't really been true for several decades. The West has abandoned animation almost completely.

/a/ content does not belong here

Dead for the UK and US? Yeah.

However, it's still live in France and Canada. Check out dem Gobelins shorts.

France sometimes has east-west collaborations.

"Anime was a mistake."
-Hiroshima Nagasaki

so panty shots are only bad because lots of people use them? that's a different argument.

Oh, so that's where the confusion was.

That's what I argued from the start, that they were overused like jump scares and laugh tracks. Sorry about the misconception if you've misinterpreted me.

Did you know there's a board for anime?

>>>/a/

I only use Holla Forums when I feel like shitposting about anime so I won't get banned on /a/. This board is a shithole with no quality anyway so it doesn't matter.

The truth at last.

Just be glad this board has a legitimate use. Being a dumping ground for the last board that isn't complete shit is something at least. Like Holla Forums is.

This board's use is shitposting about live-action TV and movies.

Nearly all American TV animation is outsourced, and the industry already started wholesale outsourcing in the 80s if not earlier, first to Japan and then to Korea. The fact that the animation is done in Korea doesn't excuse the bad character designs, storyboards and backgrounds.

But they don't supercede Japanese animators.

Whatever that's supposed to mean.

Weeaboos are not a target audience and very few people in Japan would even know what they are (very few people in the West know what they are). Not to mention that the term wasn't even coined until after 4chan's founding.

When late night anime became popular in the late 1990s it was mostly because of the enormous success of Evangelion, which was not just a hit among otaku but among the mainstream too. If the anime industry was having problems, Evangelion revitalized it. Daytime anime continued to be made as usual and late night anime was full of "normal" shows in addition to "otaku" ones. Anime based on dating sims and visual novels started appearing because dating sims and visual novels got popular, because there was a place for airing them (late night anime), and because of the production committee system that Evangelion also popularized. Not because some cabal of industry representatives got together and decided they must now appeal to the "lowest common denominator" in order to "survive."

If there is a lowest common denominator among otaku then it is probably attractive female characters, but that can mean anything and they have been around forever and aren't specific to otaku.

Or maybe you're just grasping at straws to find some more excuses to shit on anime that wasn't made before 2000.

Back to /freech/ with ya

Did you know Oshino Ougi is spooky?

You are pathetic

It's hard to imagine the satisfaction someone would get from this sort of shitposting.

Where was I saying anything about taking cartoons seriously?

check out dem french animators homie

I also don't hate animu as a whole, I do it to rustle the jimmies of 5 five users here. Nothing harsh towards u homies.

>>>/a/

;)

Anime goes on /a/.
;)

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Take it to /a/.

No.

:D

blurp

so random xD

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Goes on /a/.

No.

;-)

>>>/a/

HEH NO

heh, >>>/a/

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Anime really doesn't belong on Holla Forums.
Of course, you know that and are just trolling.

Says under the board name that anime is allowed here.

That's a lie, though.

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I know you're not really this dumb.

Anime is officially allowed here whether you like it or not, and was informally allowed even before that.

Are you dumb enough to think your bitching and moaning is going to make anybody leave?
This thread has already run its course despite your autistic manual sage spamming, and it's only being bumped to spite you at this point, but you're too mentally ill to comprehend this I bet.

Anime goes on /a/. The only reason to post it here is for shitposting purposes, as you already admitted.

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youre mom goes on Holla Forums

>>>/a/

nice trips, friendfu

>>>/here\

Thank fucking Christ.

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forgot to thank Jesus for not making me a tard

thanks Jesus

Gee I wonder why the "moespamming" is occuring. Who could be behind this?

Holla Forums AKA /freech/

"no u"
What an acerbic wit.

Feels good man

Or maybe the guy who spends his every waking hour spamming "anime goes to /a/."

Yeah, it's almost up there with your "Yo mama" joke. Talk about wit!

seek help

Please at least try to use your fucking brain.

The anime images are a response to his inane spamming.

The goon fears the samurai.

The saging is a response to the anime thread. It's strange that you need this explained to you.

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Anime threads are officially on-topic, were allowed even before they were officially sanctioned, and are within the scope of Holla Forums's purpose of discussing television and film.

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Holla Forums is for live action.
You've got /a/ for discussion of anime. Only a troll would force the issue where he's not wanted.

See

XD

There is no "spam" going on. There are very few anime related threads.

see

This is embarrassing. If you're going to be a faggot, at least be a high-energy faggot.

Anyway, anime goes on /a/.
Which you know.
You are, of course, just shitposting.

wew

What about it?

How come you didn't go to the Snow White thread to say that Western animation goes on Holla Forums? Could it be because this has nothing to do with what is and isn't on-topic and is purely about you being mentally ill and getting triggered by anime?

More boring low energy. I'm out of animes anyway. Have fun.

Must've missed it. Better question: why are you defending this?

Why wouldn't I defend it? Anime is allowed here both officially and unofficially. Anime is within the scope of the board's subject matter. What the fuck is the problem?

Doesn't belong, has its own board, isn't wanted by most. Why not just take it to /a/?

It does belong and it doesn't matter if it has its own board, and this isn't even 4chan. Holla Forums's boards are all user-created.

You are just mentally ill.

Yeah, nah.

Sage denied.

>>>/a/

Honestly, I think Evangelion was the beginning of the end. Case in point:

I'm not saying that they all just decided to pander one day, I'm saying it was something that happened more and more over time. You have to admit that at some point in the late 90s, with a few notable exceptions, studios became more conservative and less experimental, with the visuals especially. Everything just seemed to have much less energy from that point onward.

You can't honestly think digital coloring looks better than ink. Not just in anime but animation, even illustration in general. It looks significantly cheaper, flatter(both literally and figuratively) and like I said before, more sterile. In a medium like anime, that's kind of a big deal.

Ah, going back to the "pretending to be multiple anons having a discussion" tactic.

You've been doing this for seven hours.

What is wrong with the production committee system and why did it "end" anime?

Pandering is a meme. A Western delusion. Not a real thing.

I don't have to admit any such thing since it isn't true.

Maybe high end cel anime looks more aesthetically appealing than digitally produced anime. It's also significantly slower, less efficient, more limited (you can't do just anything with multiplane cameras), and has fewer colors available. Whatever aesthetic benefits can be derived from cel animation are completely meaningless compared to the downsides.

Most cel anime wasn't high end. TV anime looks much better now, with few exceptions.

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Had to go load up on more troll images, huh?

u fockin wot

I don't have to go "load up" anything, and how the fuck are these "troll images"? Just how stupid are you?

I don't have to go "load up" anything, and how the fuck are these "troll images"? Just how stupid are you?.

goes on /a/ fam

Nope.

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Sage neutralized.

I like the style of anime's made in the 80s and early 90s, where it used to be much 'dirtier' in terms of colouring. When it got shiny, flat, monotone colours, I got a bit bored.

Anime goes on /a/.

This image goes in this thread.

>>>/a/

I'm embarrassed for you.

HHHHMMMMMMMMMMM

Images used for trolling, i.e., troll images. Q.E.D.
I'm embarrassed for your parents.

There is no "trolling" going on here, and if you think there is then why are you responding?

holy shit

Great response. Really shows off your wit.

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stop using troll text

OP here. This is my only response in the thread
Both of you niggas really need to evaluate your life. Spending the entire day just posting the same regurgitated posts is kind of sad brah.

Leave Holla Forums immediately.

Anime goes on /a/.

Is this thread tl;dr or is it worth it to read it?

Sure it is, buddy.

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Holy shit, I can't believe I got baited this hard. This is really embarrassing. 10/10 on your part, man.

It's autism, but not the entertaining kind.

Whoops.

>>>/a/
Heh.

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Anime goes on the anime board, which is /a/.

Not anymore.

Your argument is shit and you should feel bad.

Those bots are a play on the old bond girl trope. It's within genre boundaries the same way a shower scene is in slasher flicks. Without them they would be lacking vital elements.

>>>/a/

animu is cancer.

I've never seen any evidence that production committees particularly interfere in the production of the anime, at least not in the same way the executives would in America. It's actually the original author of the story (if one exists) who has the ability to do that. It doesn't work like American TV production does. And what do you think sponsors were interested in the past? Toy companies that sponsored mecha anime just wanted to sell toys, but that also meant they didn't care what the anime staff did as long as the toys sold.

There isn't. Nobody has ever proven even a single case. You people keep droning on and on and on and on about pandering yet can never produce any evidence. Your theory behind the accusation doesn't make any sense and has been proven false.

Aside from OVAs being gone and movies being marginalized, I don't see any reason to think this isn't true.

What are you talking about?

You didn't get "baited" you fucking dumbfuck. You just encounterd a person who didn't immediately fall to his knees and start sucking you off because you said something.

wut

>>>/a/

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Your fellating of all things Nippon never ceases to amuse.

Except I never did that.

I thought the pigfarmer banned lewd pictures of kids.

I didn't post lewd pictures of kids.

Not the 2D ones.

But the 2D ones are illegal in Canada and Ausfailia.

great Holla Forums thread

for you

What's the bumplimit?

Goes on /a/.

Goes right here.

hey BO, you ever seen a Plad gettin mad?

do
NOT
anger him

you
WILL
be sorry

goes on /sp/

well done i guess

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WEW

I lik plad.

Noice

me to budy

kek
based /sp/

THATS IT TIME TO RAID 76CHAN

Plad is the best I worship plad plad is a god all hail plad all hail plad I love plad plad plad plad plad plad plad plad

EVERYONE DO THE PLADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDddd

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Predictable.

;) tx for the attention bby

Why /sp/ hate anime?

raid 76chan.org/tv tbh

This sure is a great Holla Forums thread.

only came here to check these guys

it's not /sp/, it's the same autist who's been in this thread for eight hours desperate for (you)s

you think the anime guy is talkinig to himself?

Bitch, you don't know me.

I can confirm that /sp/ actually does hate anime. Anime is for nerds.

wtf i love /sp/ now

Checked

you're so tsundere, wade-kun

hey weeb nerd
go draw us an anime Wade
NOW

teevee
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nice to see /sp/ still has their get game going strong, even if 8/sp/ is ded

wew

i'm not even gonna bother reading through this thread full of autism, instead i'll just post what anime i like. you can call me a fag and whathaveyou if you don't agree with any of it.

yuyu hakusho (i swear i'm not op, i just watched this in middle school and thought it was the fucking tits)
rurouni kenshin (same as above, in fact i started watching anime in 4th/5th grade and since then i've only grown more powerful)
big o
g gundam (never cared for any other gundam shows tbh)
shin chan milk
detective conan
trigun
cowboy bebop (probably more for the music, but it's still great overall)
planetes
akira
jin-roh
berserk
cyborg 009

that's all i can think of right now

Look everyone. He posted it once again!

c'mon son

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