Thoughts?

So you're really this retarded.

only a moron who'd never set foot on a boat would think a fucking actor invented the salty sea dog voice

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Fags leave.

Can't wait for a bunch of CURRENT YEAR shit in a pirate movie taking place centuries ago.

My nigga

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Only a moron would think there were recording devices in the 18th century. Only a moron would think Treasure Island is a work of history.

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do you need to hear a fucking phonograph to know what a boston accent sounds like? no you dont because the typical bostonian still uses it

its the same fucking thing for sailors. go to a bar at a pier. you'll hear the fucking pirate voice from people who live a life at sea, it comes from the goddamned ocean weather and smoking copious amounts of tobacco not from a fucking douchebag hollywood performing onkey

Figures.

…Why didn't he wait until they buried the treasure before executing them?

Good song though.

"People aren't cargo, mate." - Jack Sparrow, Nigger Liberation Front.

Only a moron would think that an actor in the 50s invented West Country accent

Didn't the last one suffer from this? In fact, didn't they ALL suffer from this?

not really. in fact, the first film implies slavery, with the little black kid following the old white man around the port.

also, considering that the villains are actual ghost pirates, it makes sense to bring bloom back, seeing as how he ferries the dead into the afterlife, jack would be like "the fuck m8".

I don't know if I'm mad at disney for taking a risk and rebooting the franchise into something new

Or that I know for a fact nobody would see it without Johnny because it "wouldn't be the same"

$$$$$

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Looks edgy as fuck.

At World's End was the edgiest by far, it tried way too hard to take itself seriously. The opening to that film remains, to my opinion, one of the top 5 edgiest scenes of any film in history. This movie looks more like it knows it's campy as fuck, just take the exchange between the kid and the ghost Captain.

Considering pirates had 'gay marriage' (anachronistic to call it that) and 'prison gay relationships', CURRENT YEAR for that side of things wouldn't be so bad.

They, however, were most assuredly not feminist.

So… Richard Spencer basically?

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And we wonder why masculinity is dead

Why then exactly?

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Pretty much.

In France, they tried to get them to stop having buttsex by introducing prostitutes, but they just ended up fucking both and being bi.

'Matelotage' was basically when you have such a good m8 that when you die, he gets your stuff. But because months and years at sea get lonely, they'd look the other way when they'd fuck (if they wanted to fuck). 'Matelotage' partners would share bunks (no homo)

books.google.com.au/books?id=480BBURkreYC&pg=PA308&dq=matelotage&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj5l_WyuL7PAhUBl5QKHcUDABAQ6AEIJjAB#v=onepage&q=matelotage&f=false

I just pretty much lost interest in most modern films enough that it didn't seem worth it to pay the increasingly outrageous prices, I'd rather just either torrent the odd film that looks interesting to me every once in a blue moon or wait for it to come on Netflix.

Have you seen the 4th part? Because this happened already. Penelope Cruz looks like a woman in it, and now they will throw her out for this overrated flat bitch

Thanks! Was there a particular movie in 2005, that made you realize this or it just happened tehre randomly?

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I love that she had to defend her character by saying she's totally not at all like Elizabeth. Why? Because every single strong woman character in film is the exact same fucking character with a different name and appearance.

This, at least give us something decent to look at, why is every single fucking female lead in film now an Alicia Vikander clone?

I meant written.

The last film I saw in theater was Revenge of the Sith, but it wasn't really that movie in particular as much as it was I just felt that movies had lost their magic, I just didn't feel the same as I had used to when I went as a little kid back in the late 80s, plus with the rising prices I just started spending my money on other things. I'm not "boycotting" theaters, mind you, it's not like I woke up one day and declared "I will no longer attend the theater!", it just kind of… happened.

You must go back.

I honestly forgot they were even making another one.

Y'know what, though? I actually like this trailer. Yeah, it's a Pirates of the Caribbean movie and will probably suck, but it will suck in the same way that the second and third ones did, which is that it will be a derpy, grim-dark shitfest with actual funny bits, as opposed to sucking in the way the fourth one did, which is being a gay, unfunny and thoroughly dull shitfest that I switched off after twenty or so minutes.

This is one of my guilty pleasures tbh, I'm a sucker for anything this guy is in. Best thing that ever came out of these movies.

In the sense of homosexual? Because this is the only episode, where one of the side plotlines is the heterosexual love between a man and a "woman" (the siren-girl), and this is the only one that has a real woman as a main character.

What is there left to tell in Will Turner's story? Wasn't that pretty much concluded in the last one?

Why didn't they bring back the priest and the mermaid for this sequel? That was the highlight of the 4th one.

In the sense that it looks, sounds and feels gay with fancy faggot fencing, way too bright color scheme, shitty overacting, and the overall feel of being a musical minus the singing parts. Which shouldn't be surprising seeing as it was directed by a homo whose claim to fame was two shitty musicals.

That's every single one of these films, user.

Penelope Cruz is certainly better than Keira Knightley, but if I wanted to watch a movie for tits, I'd watch porn or better yet, have sex and get it out of my system.

Idiot moviegoers didn't understand how great that sideplot was

The previous movies has aged like milk.

I've worded my opinion in the wrong way. Wanted to say that the whole subplot is about the love of a hetero man and a woman, whom neither are main characters.

Fuck off tripfag

Kill yourself.

First one was amazing, subsequent two were enjoyable, fourth would also have been enjoyable, possibly more than 2 and 3, if they had not brought in the fucking mermaid romance.

Drop the fucking romance, holy shit. I want pirates, as few women as possible.

Fuck, well maybe without the ironing board around he won't be as annoying.

So? It's still basically the same thing, a straight romance subplot. How this makes the movie better is beyond me, and so is how this makes it any different than the cancerous romance between Bloom and Knightley in the first three.

You first.

How? It was basically the most lifeless and dullest one in the series. Depp is not even trying, much less phoning it in, Blackbeard sucked, Barbossa was a fucking Navy captain for some reason, and there wasn't a single funny moment.

Honestly the fourth one wasn't as bad as people claimed. Obviously not up to the quality of the first but Barbossa was top-tier and frankly Bloom and Knightley were fucking bland as shit outside of looks.

Never mind, dumped automatically.

Can't tell if this image is cool or gay.

Easily the best part of these movies.

wew. pirated.

Oh man Michael Wincott's voice in that movie still gives me chills. What a great VA.

I think that it was a nice little subplot. They have picked a handsome guy and a girl with an interesting face, and made them both ambigous characters. If you think about them, the priest is "wrong", because he is against the lifestyle the pirates live, and we are supposed to be with the pirates here, and the "normal people" are the antagonists. Also he represents religion, which was strangely missing from the previous movies, despite the age and the setting, and religion is still a touchy subject.
At the end, when he "dies", you can think that the makers killed the religious guy, because believing in God is bad, etc.
Did he really died at the end or the mermaid girl magically gave her the power to breathe under water and they live happily ever after? Is the mermaid girl a beast nontheless - does she kill the guy at the end or not? If she keeps him alive, will she be able to keep the other mermaids away? Also it has the "being different doesn't mean you are lesser" aspect in it, etc…

But guess you have to be a romantic type to be able to appreciate it.

So what is he supposed to be? Another ghost? He surely looks like some kind of undead

So you can bury the bodies in a pre-dug hole.

Yes, an actual ghost this time, not a cursed undead like Barbossa or a cursed immortal like Jones and crew, but a traditional, "Amityville Horror" type ghost escaped from the Bermuda Triangle. He's after Jack, and the only way Jack can defeat him, since he's a ghost, is with the Trident of Poseidon.

He looks like an unfinished special effect.

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Agreed. I'll put up with as much Depp shit as I have to see Rush swagger around as/with a ghost.

At least the last film you saw in a cinema was good. I can't remember the last film I saw years ago but I'm sure it was awful.

It just looks odd, satan. It seems pointless to make him CG when the effect could have been accomplished with makeup.

Ironic.

Why? He's a good actor. This is beneath him.

So is Ian McShane, and he was, unsurprisingly, the best part of that film.

He didn't beat his wife when they shot this 10 years ago

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He didn't beat his wife this time, either. She made up the whole thing.

Fuck it, I'll go see it.

Wait, who? That character description is garbage, but if they actually get a hot actress this time…

OH, the hot chick from Maze Runner. Okay, I'm back on board.

-Gorgeous eyes.
-Pretty nice figure (way better than Knightley)
-No evidence of dating black dudes, no black actor to be a love interest int his one.
-No scandals, seemingly a good girl.

Alright, yeah I'm in. The cast sounds great.

What the fuck kind of ghosts are these pirates though? We've had two kinds of zombie, skellingtons, fish people, surprisingly threatening mermaids, what the fuck are these guys supposed to me? And why are there so many "unpleasantly immortal" pirate curses?

…I don't remember anything in any of the Greek myths about Poseiden's trident having any effect on ghosts.

The kind that can pass through walls. See

Dead people don't like it when you steal their treasure I guess, and apparently dead people are somehow more powerful then the living. Though it sounds like the Bermuda Triangle/Devil's Triangle will play a major role in this film, so it probably has something to do with that.

Honestly, they've already turned the franchise into Indiana Jones at this point, just send Jack after the Ark of the Covenant or the Crystal Skull or something.

McShane was the only good thing in that piece of shit movie

Why doesn't he know who to call?

to be fair, it is the weapon of a god, can't see why it wouldn't have an effect on ghosts, even if it is a shitty macguffin, at least the ones in indiana jones make sense.

Oh fuck Jack-Off Swallows and the Paroles of the Carlobeaner

What is some good pirate shit? Film and TV stuff. Is Black Sails decent?

More importantly why would the Trident of a Greek God be in the caribeans? Also wouldn't Poseidon object to someone taking his magical fork?

not really

Just call her fucking "Smith", for fuck's sake, why does every single fucking female lead now have to have a stupid "unique" snowflake name? What's wrong with "Carrie Smith"?

I really like it but it gets quite campy at times, Captain Flint has some great monologues.

Smyth is the historic spelling of the time, and it's even a last name today still.

I'll check out the first few episodes then. See if it hooks me.

Is the Pearl back to normal, or is it still in the bottle? I actually assumed the plot to 5 would be Jack trying to restore it.

It's a 'soft reboot,' according to Orlando Blooming Onions.

That just means they're rehashing the plot of the first film while still keeping the continuity and canon of the previous installments. I.E. "Star Wars: The Force Awakens", which is a "soft reboot". So it still takes place after Stranger Tides, they're just lifting the plot from Black Pearl to "Reintroduce the series to a new generation", same as Star Wars VII.

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I really don't like this "soft reboot" bullshit people are pushing. If it's a sequel, it's not a reboot. If it retroactively retcons a bunch of shit from earlier movies while claiming to maintain continuity, then fine, close enough, but if everything that previously happened *still* happened, it isn't a fucking reboot.

And if they repeat the exact same fucking movie again, that in itself doesn't make it a "soft reboot" that just makes it a rehash. If Jurassic Park still happened before Jurassic World, then it's not a "soft reboot".

The only example I've heard I think actually fits this term is the last Terminator film, because that claimed to be a sequel but changed the entire timeline.

Not pirate but close enough.

Wait, wait, WAIT.

Are they trying to imply that in this universe, Poseidon exists or existed? What about Calypso? Is she Poseidon's daugther? Where the fuck did she go anyway? She will let Will Turner do what he wants?

Again, like with that Daddario bitch, the only thing that makes her extraordinary is her eye color.
After Penelope Cruz? YOu're kidding, right?
Also no evidence of talent
Yeah, suuuureeee. Also who the fuck cares?
Let's add

I'm impressed that they made to make 5 films based on a Disneyland ride that is honestly decent at best, especially when you consider that there's only 1 film based on the haunted mansion, and 0 based on thunder mountain.

You sound like some jealous "delicious brown girl" autist. If you're who I think you are, your post was greeted with half a dozen people saying "and her gorgeous lips, and her huge awesome tits, and her pretty skin" and you sperged out and said "NUH-UH, THOSE THINGS ARE UGLY! THEY'RE… BLAND! I DON'T LIKE THEM!!!! HERE'S A ZOOMED IN PICTURE OF HER FACE TO PROVE MY POINT!!!!!!"

Personally I find Cruz's face incredibly unattractive, and she wears a push-up bra, she's been nude plenty of times, her tits aren't big, they're barely B cups, there's nothing impressive about her figure.

She's got giant horse teeth, a giant, ugly hook nose, and overall a face that's always just looked OLD.

Obviously me, is this an autism thing? A lot of people care whether or not their stars have taken part in trashy hollywood culture. It's not so much whether or not they have, but whether or not they've kept up appearances. She's seemingly kept clean. It matters to a lot of people who aren't you.

I liked her in Bandidas

Calypso and Poseidon are both part of the same Greek pantheon. She's the child of the Titan Atlas.

After the maelstrom she returned to depths to hate-fuck the corpse of Davy Jones and to occasionally queef out the post-coitals storm to fuck up boats.

I dunno, mate, she's a pretty solid package. I would happily shoot my balls into her vaginal cavity.

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Is this supposed to be a counterpoint?

Nope, a statement of complete agreement actually.

It's what you call a fluke

Wait, wasn't 4 already something of a "soft reboot", basically representing a new Depp-focused beginning after 3 gave most of everything closure?

Penelope Cruz made out with her own sister in a music video directed by their brother.

That ride scared the shit out of me as a child. It was the skeleton pirate right at the beginning that did it.

No, four was a stand-alone sequel. I think it's very likely however it was suppose to be the first in a new trilogy, starting with a focus on Sparrow then expanding further like the first trilogy, but the effort would've been canned due to the poor reception. Now they're doing a soft reboot because everyone has to have a Cinematic Universe (4 came out a year before Avengers, sixth film into the Marvel Cinematic Universe) to cash-cow on because that's the trend, planned out way in advance and expected to last for 20-30 years, and you can't do that without a hot success to milk, and the first pirates film is too old to serve as that now. Hence, a soft reboot of it all.

Make no mistake. A dozen pirate films are secretly in the works. Look forward too
And so fourth. All with end-of-credits scenes about that dog that carried the keys to Jacks cell!

Knowing them god dammit they won't do a Sao Feng film. I'd love to see a Chinese pirate film fucking dammit.

I like the first two pirates movies. Fuck everyone who posted in this thread tbh

thank fuck none of that is true.

You best start believing in Hollywood money-making schemes. You're in one.

Interesting stuff Phanty, ty

I liked them both too, user. 3 was trash, 4 was bad, but had some decent moments, mostly just Ian McShane and Geoffrey Rush.

I actually wouldn't mind seeing a Davy Jones film, tbh, so long as they bring back Bill Nighy and don't recast him.

3 may have been shit, but this scene was pure Kino, not even being ironic or joking or anything, it was the best part of the film and probably one of the greatest "villain death scenes" from film. I'll give these movies one thing, in every single one, even if they're mostly bad, there's always at least one or two genuinely good scenes.

I loved this too. It's just good business(kino)

Dunno, user - maybe it's just cool?

If they keep up with these Pirates sequels and spinoffs, I'm holding out for some Lovecratian creatures at some point. That would be awesome!

It's certainly a great scene and an awesome death, but it didn't make much sense to me why he would give up because he lost the Frying Clutchman. He wanted to destroy pirates, and had 300 ships against the remaining 11 of the Pirate Lords including the Crying Brunchman, which was without a Kracken mind you. And he just gives up? Bollocks.

To be fair, isn't the Dutchman supposed to be literally invincible? I don't think it actually can be destroyed or sank, The Endeavor could destroy the Pearl, definitely, but they'd still be destroyed and Beckett would die regardless by the Dutchman, so he simply accepted the fact he had been outplayed and allowed Jack and the Pearl to survive.

Honestly, Davy Jones is probably the single most sympathetic character in the entire franchise. He wasn't even a pirate to begin with, just some ordinary, poor Scottish sailor who had the misfortune to fall in love with a woman who turned out to be a complete and utter cunt and ended up cursed for eternity for it to a fate worse then death, only to then have literally every ambitious and power-mad fucker alive after his heart so they could enslave him and control his invincible ship and immortal crew. Beckett and Mercer even planned on killing him anyway once they had wiped out the pirates, probably by convincing some poor grunt to stab the heart without telling him he'd be enslaved in its place and be damned to the same curse Calypso put on the Dutchman.

TL;DR: Calypso is the most evil character in the franchise, Davy Jones did nothing wrong

It can take damage and repairs by absorbing it's crew into the ship itself, and even then that was the corrupted version, the uncorrupted version likely wouldn't. Immortal or not, she could take damage and if you damage it enough surely it would sink. It may very well come back, but it's not like Will was allowed to use it as his personal warship. He had to ferry the dead, otherwise he'd become a corrupted squidskin or Kalypso would fuck his anus apart.

11 ships against 300. And the thing had difficulty tackling the Black Pearl in one vs one combat. It would sink and by the time the Dutchman rose again the battle would be long done.

if they don't have sparrow and barbossa, they'll tank. those two have carried the franchise entirely.

I want to fuck Koto right in the ass.

Seems a shame they're doing more of these since the original trilogy was pretty nice and that last sequel they did fell flat.

Much of the last movie was actually very nice and enjoyable. Fantastic choreographing for much of the action that took place. But then they fucked it up at the end by just ruining the entire mood of it and having some third party waltz in who had never been presented in the entire movie who resolve the story. There were hints of this kind of problem in the original trilogy, but I suppose because it was a trilogy they got plenty of time to incorporate whatever they felt like into the story to wrap things up a bit more neatly.

I'm very surprised looking at the writing credits for the series, as I noticed both Ted Elliott and Terry Rossio both were responsible for the original trilogy as well as that terrible sequel On Stranger Tides. I would have thought some entirely different people would have to have been involved. They supposedly tries basing Tides on a book, though looking at the synopsis there doesn't seem to even be that much that they lifted from there so they couldn't even claim that the movie was weak due to that. For the latest movie they have Jeff Nathanson who wrote the screenplay for Catch Me If You Can as well as the decent Rush Hour sequels.

I doubt Disney is wanting to waste money on a flop so they probably will make something passable even if the thing feels unnecessary.

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And why don't you link the fucking video here, boss?

I'd love to see that

Even if they make something really cool, the studio will dismiss/rewrite it to fit their agenda.

Are you just going to call every sequel a soft reboot from now on?

Was Back to the Future 2 a soft reboot? It actually even changed the timeline, afterall. If not, why not? If it meets all the definitions of a soft reboot, maybe you're

fucking retarded?

Why does the term 'Soft Reboot' trigger you so badly?

The original Pirates trilogy works as a set of movies. The fourth movie does not fit into the story being told in that previous trilogy. So yeah it makes sense for the guy to call it a soft reboot, especially since they're bringing on a new writer to change things since the fourth movie did so poorly.

No, Orlando Bloom said that it's a soft reboot.

No, because no one involved in it ever said it was and it was never intended to be one.

The first requirement is that someone involved in the production calls it a soft reboot. Soft reboot is an industry term, do you think it's a movie goer-only term or something?

You're the one getting upset at me for what someone else said. You don't get to call anyone retarded when you're sporting the gold record for that.

Now those are films I'd actually want to watch. There's not nearly enough best pirate/east india company/gentleman officer flicks out there.

Only one of the four films they've already done has been good, likely to be one in five soon. Do you really expect them to get any of it right after that?

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clash of the titans sucked.

both the original and the remake.

it's a story that works better on paper than as a movie.

Hey, fuck you buddy. The original was fantastic.

Meh, feels kinda cozy. I for one welcome our new cinematic universe overlords.

Man, how they managed to fuck the 4th movie so bad? It felt like a direct to DVD sequel. Even Barbossa was terrible at it, and he is the best character in the previous movies.