Ash vs Evil Dead

I'm on episode 1 of season 1… does this show get any better? It's like they got the tone and character completely wrong. Then add on top of that the terrible CG in place of fun 80's props, unlikable characters that can't act to save their lives, his illegal immigrant sidekick, the tough feminist girl, and the ethnic tough lady cop… I mean, it's like they made this show with a check list in mind of things liberals want on TV but also what they thought Evil Dead was without understanding a thing about it beyond the surface. It's like it has Dead Rising syndrome.

The second episode felt a little closer to the source material (Ash enjoys an awkward dinner with the girl character's parents) but it didn't impress me enough to continue watching. Feels too much like a show that appeals to Redditors.

Yep, it's that "quirky" sort of humor mixed with what people who didn't really watch Evil Dead think the Evil Dead series is because "Bruce Campbell is so cheesy lol!!"

As I said, the way the series has evolved into what it is now reminds me a lot of what happened with Dead Rising. There was a silly, cheesy aspect to it, but they took that and dialed it way up while leaving out the rest. Also, Ash just isn't the same character any more. He's like a parody now.

It has it's moments. The episode with the Dinner scene, and the last few episodes where Ash reaches the Cabin were the best parts. Unfortunately you'll never completely escape the CGI and Liberal pandering. There's a particularly cringeworthy episode with some gun nut survivalist types that the show paints as paranoid losers, even though they live in a world where demons are waiting to burst forth and destroy society at any moment.

is… is that steven colbert?

Ash becomes the sitcom husband character in his own series. The diversity (A fucking Jew) take the lead role away from him.

The story also doesn't go any where, every episode is just sort of there. I didn't make it beyond episode 5 or 6 and I was reviewing them for a horror website.

I'm almost done at episode 3 and the only thing keeping me going is that it's Evil Dead and that I want to see just how badly they fuck it up.

The writing is downright deviantart fanfic tier. Also, at least they were treating Ash with some respect in the first two episodes, even if he had become a parody of himself, but that's all out the window here.

I'm just glad I'm not the only one that feels this way, especially after seeing the ratings.

Did you actually watch the original movies? That's exactly what he is in them.

If I'm not mistaken, in Army of Darkness it was revealed he had some greater destiny. Also, he was never the one to fuck everything up, that was usually others doing while he tried to keep them alive.

He released the Army of the Dead by fucking up the incantation. He wasn't a complete goofball, but he does make a lot of mistakes. He also trained the living to fight the dead, so he's still competent.

I've watched uptp s2e1 so far and the short running time and gaga with a few creepy moments keep me tuned in

(I fast forward a little too much)

Y'all are forgetting that ash didn't do shit in the first film, goes insane in the second one, and constantly fucks up in the third. The original ending had him fuck up the sleeping potion and he woke up to the end of the world.

It's garbage. Another old guy clinging for relevance by going back to play a character he was famous for playing before I was ever born. It's pathetic.

Campbell has always been a B movie star and continues to do so. He's a fan favourite because he's an over acting manly guy who enjoys his job and can carry an other wise poor movie.


There is a difference between being a fuck up and making fat jokes every other scene

There's also the fact that the characters weren't in on the joke. In this its just these characters who all seem to be able to see Ash for the cheesy b-movie star he is, including his weird fanboy. His character also is complete shit now and everything he does and says feels forced, like the writers think they are a hell of a lot funnier than they really are.

It's Bruce Campbell playing Bruce Campbell. Ash is simply gone now.

This show is to Evil Dead what the Force Awakens was to Star Wars.

It's definitely not a remake of the original movie.

Yeah I noticed this right away with how they established him in the first episode. In the movies Ash was a working class college student who was a little slow but still respectable. In Army of Darkness the character became a bit of an asshole but it made sense given all the shit he's been through and he still had some dignity. Now though, he's just some pathetic old guy who fucks trailer trash in bar restrooms. The guy built a working metal hand in the middle ages and your telling me that he couldn't get a better job than a clerk in a hardware store? Get the fuck outta here.

I really don't like them adding Xena as some Mary Sue know it all, I assume that happened because she's married to Rob Tapert.

The series would be better off with Ash alone, getting new sidekicks every few episodes.

Who made this show exactly? Who directed it, etc.? Honestly, I was excited until I saw the trailer with the extra cast characters and immediately lost interest and never bothered investigating it again because I didn't have Starz.

he went from s-mart to some other shitshow

dude has never had a normal life since the days of evil dead

produced, written and sometimes directed by sam raimi himself. it's as canon as canon can be.

This show seriously sucks. It's like watching a 20-minute cartoon on Adult Swim. The Evil Dead remake was so much cooler.

I just watched this whole thing, they were 30 years too late on this, I'd rather have had an Army of Darkness 2 because that film was just the right amount of badass action and stupid shit.

I was hoping they'd redeem it by just shoving him straight into another time period forced to fight the undead again, nope it ends with him running away from everything and letting the bad guys win.

Army of Darkness is only 24 years old.

Not really. It is pretty consistent and does feel like Army of Darkness with beans.

But yeah if you really don't like it, I can't recommending continuing.

Why didn't Raimi just make another movie? Why is he so autistic about this? Doesn't he have enough Hollywood money at this point?

What gets me is the part where he's fighting his evil twin and his goofy progressive sidekicks have to choose which one is the fake. They end up choosing by him saying "aw fuck it, just kill us both" and they decide that is the real one. Evil Dead Ash would have never said that and would usually go to extremes to fight for his life. They would have chosen wrong. It just goes to show how little Bruce and Sam actually know about their own movie and character.

Thanks to streaming services TV series are now more valuable than a movie is, you have way more creative freedom and a larger market willing to pay for them (i.e. streaming services)

But user, they did kill the real Ash

From what I've heard, AoD was never directly acknowledged in S1, though they said it was mostly due to legal issues

They're still teasing another movie from what I've heard

Really?

I stopped half an episode away from the last. I just couldn't bring myself to care enough to finish it.

Dankes.

Army of Darkness is the worst Evil Dead movie.

There's a marathon of this RIGHT NOW on Encore West.

I mean, it's a guy with a chainsaw arm, did you think it was gonna be serious hardcore action? The fucking Deadites explode in a fountain of blood in every single episode, how the fuck is that not a dead giveaway that you're not supposed to say 'wow that's breaking the laws of physics', but instead 'wow that was cool'? It has fucking puns for crissakes.

OP is however half right, they added quite a fair amount of bullshit.

What is NOT bullshit is
a spic pushing groceries? who would've thunk!
if you think him accidentally summoning the armies of the dead while high and trying to bang a chick is out of character, what the fuck have you even been watching
from which perspective? because as far as I know, the plot starts and stops at "bad guys, go kill" and everything inbetween is just campy fun that's not meant to be treated seriously; did you think it was gonna be fucking Shakespeare? in a show with a guy that has a chainsaw arm?

And remember guys, if you don't understand something it's always just easier to call it shit rather than rub two neurons together and think, just think, that maybe it's not your cup of fucking tea.

Deadites rarely explode in fountains of blood as they spend most the time sitting in a car talking.

It's nice to see you defending your pet series but AvED isn't camp, it's shit. Being camp requires you still put effort in, not that you make 1 cool scene and consider that being your work load for the season

I can see this Ash being the same guy from Army of Darkness, 20 years on. The main difference is that in Army of Darkness everyone around him thought he was an amazing hero, and only the audience was in on the fact that he's actually kind of a buffoon, bumbling his way through the entire adventure. The show does the complete opposite thing. Everyone instantly assumes Ash is a massive idiot, and only the audience knows he's actually a badass, who at least somewhat knows what he's doing.

That doesn't work as a concept when they diversity hire the rest of the cast. It comes off as social justice pandering rather than a role reversal.

No disagreements here. It's grating to see the young multicultural supporting cast roll their eyes at Ash for being a horrible old racist white man every five seconds.

They made AOD non-canon. As far as I'm concerned this shit doesnt exist. Fuck it and the current year train it rode in on.

someone else owns the AoD license so they can't use it, it isn't made non-canon they just can't reference it in any meaningful way.

Considering the other movies are basically the same movies but with a different approach…

You know Sam Raimi is literally jewish don't you

Niggers, this is the best fucking show in TV right now. It has a masculine man who has saved the planet, and another dimension, all with his right hand cut off. The man is a fuck up, surrounded by even bigger fuck ups, and as a result is the most competent person around. Everyone loathes him (For reasons explained in S02E01), and HE DID NOTHING WRONG. This show is a

NORMIE RED PILL

you dumb mother fuckers, just like Fury Road, but you're all too fucking uptight to realise it.


Raimi has said it's canon, they just can't talk about it.

How was Fury Road a normie red pill? The villain did nothing wrong but he represents patriarchy so were expected to hate him.

Whats the explanation cuck?

Yep. Crap banking on 80s nostalgia.

Was FR about feminism? Yes, definitely. Let's go over it.

There's a man who has managed to, somehow, make the post-apocalypse sustainable. The world has no water, so he rations it out. The population is in turmoil, so he keeps it in check.

Then we have the women! All these great, stronk women who don't need no man! Apart from when the bus gets fucked and they need a man. Or when they walk into a trap, which the man warned them about. Or the countless chases in which the man saves them.

What about the village the women lived in? It was great until they turned up, and then ruined it. They polluted the last bit of green land, because they're women and can't into agriculture.

We make out way back to the citadel, and what happens? The women flush the last of the Earth's water down the drain, while smirking down on the man they owe their lives to, smug in their own minds that they've made everything so much better for everyone. Free from the tyranny of having someone give you a vital resource to survival.

Max looks up at them, in their high castle, and just walks away. There's nothing for him there. They ruined it. Possibly the last bit of Heaven on Earth, and they fucked it into the floor with a single turn of the tap, because they're fucking stupid and thought they could do better.

You, men, are Max. Just walk away.

Interesting interpretation. But I think the implication was that Joe had an infinite supply of ground water, that he redirected away from the green place, killing everything there, and he only rationed it the way he did because he was a meanie.

the tone of the character is the best part of the show.

christ do you fags realize how goofy and ridiculous ED2 and AOD are? These aren't serious movies. It was full of stupid humor that was "reddit" for the time. What the fuck are people expecting?

Oh, they still haven't worked something out with MGM?

How did he create a pipeline that stretched God knows how many miles long?

How did he build any of the shit he had?

Why do people hate Ash I mean you goddamn faggot.

Like what? A pipe with a tap on it? Drilling for groundwater is easy as fuck, people did it hundreds of years ago. Put down miles and miles of pipes with out the people you're stealing from noticing takes either mole men or magic.

Watch the last episode you giga nigger, fuck!

I dropped the series half way through when I got bored of kikes. Just fucking spill it or go get fucked by a blender.

I'm confused. Who said he built a pipeline?

No.


You need a pipeline to redirect water. If it exists and he built it, how, and if he didn't, then it means he didn't know it was happening, so he's not to blame.

Seriously, people were so butthurt about the movie that they missed the fact that it's an anti-feminism movie.

and feminism shit while the show makes racist jokes and killed every stronk female after a few episodes in tragic but forgettable fashion
I can't complain about the quality, the show isn't the best, but it's sure as hell living up to the standards Raimi mistakenly rised, if you people think you can project something serious in a parody like Evil Dead, then you become part of the joke.

It makes jokes about racists.

They can't slap racism on a comedic show, that's for sure, but there's jokes about it.
And that's a problem, because?
The show is in itself a gigantic parody, you don't need to consider it canon or respectable, it clearly doesn't follow an agenda, but does appeal to some invisible "rules" of today's standards to be more acceptable and get a profit.

There's also the part about the paranoid rednecks I didn't touched, the irony of this is the fact that they were right to begin with, I don't see the reason behind the criticism about it, when it's clearly another joke about the world state in the series, the world turned into shit because Ash accepted a deal later in the series, the dudes with guns were preparing themselves to something like this.

Are you retarded?

Again, they do follow some patterns to make it more profitable, but it's not significant enough to make it worth as an agenda, if you can't see this I bet the retarded it's you, they're making the show expecting a profit while having some sort of fun, not aiming to spread an ideal.

Diversity makes a show less profitable not more. No one wants to watch niggers but other niggers and TV doesn't take EBT cards

The show only has 4 fixed characters, 2 females and 2 males, 2 of each are retarded sidekicks which are solid characters because they're there to try to be funny, the others are the protagonist and antagonist, both of them worked in the past with Raimi, which makes things easier. Everyone who isn't these 4 dies or it's ditched because they can't cast more people in this fashion, the show didn't showed a nigger, a jew, an asiac or whatever demographic you aimed to spot, only your basic Taco-Boy, a crazy retarded teenager, a grumpy and stupid protagonist and a demonic antagonist, while trying to make fun with these characters while having somewhat serious moments. There's no space for politics here because it isn't the focus, aside from Females and the Taco there's not a clear appeal, that's why this isn't a proper agenda.

if you ignore the blatant propaganda you are either for it, or not very bright.

Also, the difference is one was written serious but played corny. The joke was there, but the characters weren't aware of it. We as an audience were. In Ash vs Evil Dead everyone is aware of the joke making it a lame, cheap experience.

That's exactly it. Thank you.

This would sound completely awkward if not for "Ash vs Army of Darkness"