It is way past time to acknowledge the words “well regulated” in the 2nd amendment
It is way past time to acknowledge the words “well regulated” in the 2nd amendment
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>>380667138ok fine all gun owners will start forming militias
>>380667138The second amendment was made to protect the people from power grabbing faggots like you.
In historical context that means "well supplied" so the people deserve the best equipment available thus I get a full auto M4.
>>380667138The constitution GUARANTEES our right to own firearms. There does not have to be reasons or regulations. Anyone who says otherwise is a communist and a FAGGOT.
>>380667138post-wall roastie narcissists have no rights, change my mind
The mistake was allowing idiots to exist, let alone vote.
>>380667138in that time period "well regulated" meant something like well practiced/proficient >people who can shoot straight being necessary to the success of any militia stopping people from ever touching a rifle in peacetime is stupid
>>380667138>We changed the meaning of a word so now it means what we want it to mean checkmate!Nah faggot.
Which is the superior pie, Holla Forums? I can never decide if I like apple or pumpkin more, but I am also open to other suggestions.
>>380667138Yes, let's.
>>380667138The militias are well regulated. Not the guns.
>>380667653Ditch Apple pie, unless it’s thanksgiving, then pumpkin.
>>380667138The RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>>380667839Dutch*
>>380667138How smoothbrained do you have to be to think that the literal amendment that says the government has no power to stop you from owning a gun because you might need to shoot the government also says that it's the government's responsibility to regulate what guns you can have.
>>380667653my grandma used to make blackberry pie with meringue on top because she hated lemonsnever seen it anywhere else but it was amazing
>>380667138Its way past time to recognize your dick in your own asshole> its more common than you think
>>380667761And well regulated in this context means trained, equipped, and everything in functional order. For over 200 years, able bodied males between the ages of 17 and 45 were technically obligated to be well regulated gun owners in this country - directly related to the language in the 2nd Amendment.
>>380668131if you arent in selective service you're a traitor lol
>>380667138Lets make this simple, being a female, it is impossible for your brain to be well regulated to form a proper opinion on the second amendment. However your brain is well regulated to make sandwiches.
>>380667138The words of a useless hole that had a boring role in a shitty tv show 20 years ago, still injecting herself where she isn’t wanted in order to stay relevant. Pathetic.
>>380668131I've seen this pic before but i just noticed the manpad behind the little girls bikenice
>>380667138Agreed. The majority of states have outlawed militias and these laws need to be repealed as unconstitutional.
>>380667322WELL REGULATED
>>380667138It is way past time to acknowledge the words "right to abortion" in the...oh wait, it doesn't exist!
>>380667138alyssa milano is what happens when waman who are even dumber than waman are on average arent being told that their only place in the world is to cook, clean and look after children..
>>380667914That sounds pretty good. My grandma made blackberry/raspberry crumble sometimes and it was great, but always best when fresh and hot and gooey with a scoop of vanilla ice cream. It wasn't nearly as good when it got cold. An advantage of apple and pumpkin pies is that they remain good at just about any temperature.
>>380667138without the"right of the people to keep and bear arms" there can be no well regulated militia.
>>380667138nigger you, and she, and everyone bitching on twitter knows what well regulated actually means in this context. shut the fuck up, no one buys it.
She's right. Why aren't we regulating up some militias? The security of our free state is nonexistent. We need more militias everywhere, and we need them now
>>380667247Gun owners are already doing that and glowies have no clue. Most forming now use complicated secret clues or coded messages to identify one another that know they are not faggot fed bois.
>>380667707should post this in all gun threads. dumb uneducated niggers and liberals don't understand these things are already judicated
>>380667138>It is way past time to acknowledge the words “well regulated” in the 2nd amendmentThat doesnt mean regulated by the government, imbecile. The 2A is there for people to protect society from the government. The militia must be regulated among private individuals and the government must have no say, otherwise it defeats the purpose of 2A. Those you have a right to protect yourself from, dont get to be in charge of planning that protection.God, mentally ill woke types are fucking stupid.
>>380668131A well trained and equipped paramilitary group.I believe defending your town and nation is a different mindset from getting a gun for "self defense" 'cause you're scared for you and your property and feel like you're the early responder police. No, you're the military frontline. Lethal force brought to situations that need it. Other situations are for police.
>>380667138They always leave out ..."the right of the People..." part. Memeflag saged.
>>380667138Crime is off the charts. People NEED guns for self-defense no matter what the constitution says or meant. It's just common sense. Who's gonna get drawn into some esoteric legal argument when home invaders are already raping his wife? If this odious spent prostitute wants people to give up their guns, why is she playing stupid word games? Why doesn't she work on bringing crime down to zero first? It can only be because SHE HERSELF is a criminal and needs to PAY for what she's already done and be PREVENTED from doing it again!
>>380667495>The constitution GUARANTEES our right to own firearmsThis isn't a very good argument. Your constitution can be amended. Your argument should be exactly what you need guns for. The government turning against the people is a reason but not a very good one, the chance of that happening is extremely low that it's almost zero and if they did turn against you they would win anyway. Self defense in the home or shooting as a hobby are better reasons, although self defence in the home is again a really low chance of happening.
>>380667138Daily reminder that the Supreme Court has already ruled that there is no need to be part of a militia to exercise your 2nd amendment rights, and that even if you did, all able bodied men between 17 and 45 are the militia
>>380667138>It's way past time to acknowledge the words "Shall not be infringed" in the 2nd Amendment.
inorganic shill talking points are so easy to recognize these days. you just get a list of things to say and you keep saying them until they give you the next list. what a fucking existence
>>380667138She could have had thousands of replies to that message to get more eyes on it, but instead there are only seven because she blocked open responses.
>>380669256The chance of that happening is supposed to be zero BECAUSE the people all have guns
>>380667914Make it yourself. I get my buddy from high school who still lives in Key West to send me real key limes and I make key lime pie with meringue once or twice a year.
>>380669693They block replies when they know they can't argue their points
>>380669809I have never actually had key lime pie. I am deciding now that this is unacceptable, and will seek one immediately for evaluation.
>>380669946You're missing out leafbro. It's fantastic
It is well past time to acknowledge the words "The right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms" in the 2nd amendment
>>380667138Well regulated hollywood
>>380668378>Memeflag trollingYou feds used to try
>>380667138>It is way past time to acknowledge the words “well regulated” in the 2nd amendmentFuck off you 1pbtID shill.
>>380667138Indeed it is. The population is woefully under-equipped and this needs to be addressed.
>a hollywood roastie so far past her prime and washed up that even the fappening pretty much skipper her overjej
>>380669256>the chance of that happening is extremely lowthat's fucking rich coming from an aussieyou deserve to eat the shit sandwich that the chinks are feeding yourest in pieces you gaslighting faggot
>>380669256>self defence in the home is again a really low chance of happeningNot just in the home. On the subway, too. And in school. It may be different down under but up over they actually bussed niggers across town so they could pollute white schools. I mean, what are you supposed to do if you see a nigger in your school, not defend yourself? In my book, school invaders can justifiably be shot on sight.
>>380670042The problem is that most pies I ate growing up and even now are made with local fruits and berries. My grandparents had a huge orchard with apples, pears, peaches, raspberries, blackberries and rhubarb so that's the kinds of pies I got. Time to broaden my horizons.
>>380670383>Indeed it is. The population is woefully under-equipped and this needs to be addressed.When the Aryan man finds the iron in his heart again, he'll find the iron in his hands again.
>>380667138>“well regulated”It doesn't modify the right to bear arms, it only provides the explanation for that right.So basically AR-15s should be provided free by the state.
>>380668887>Why aren't we regulating up some militiasNigger YOU ARE the militia. Theres no "we" to supply "them" - its you buying and training with guns. That's what it's talking about.
>>380669256>the government has bigger guns because they've already infringed>so disarm yourself entirely and throw yourself at their mercyBrought to you by the country of Covid Camps. Feel free to fuck off and die, you worthless dreg. Worms like you are barely human.
>>380670132Woah bud let's cool it with the antisemetic remarks
>>380667138The right of the people to keep and bare arms shall not be infringed, suck my dick op
>>380667138Yeah they mean "properly trained and equiped" congrats now you admit the government is required to train and supply the average person with arms and ammunition
>>380667479>>380667613>>380668131in historical context there was no AR 15 so give it up faggot. see we can play the "Muh context" game too.
>>380669256the government here has already turned against the people you blind and retarded mother fucker
>>380670823please, go on
>>380667613More like in good working order
>>380670823He says, using his free speech over the internet in a way the founders could have neeeever anticipated!
>>380667138Every militia has a grenadier. How are grenades illegal?
>>380670823So the 4th Amendment doesn't apply to electronics. Excellent.
>>380670823
>>380667138>Government regulating a "militia"...
>>380670823See, you're not really making sense. Like you don't understand the word "context".
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>>380670823I have the right to a sailing ship and a compliment of 12 pound cannon, along with pistol and rifle to repel boarders.Fuck you nigger, you don't get to make me a slave like your granddaddy after your masters groomed some faggot shooters to kill kids because they are too fucking cowardly to do it themselves since the last time they killed a bunch of kids themselves they got Timothy McVeighed.
>>380670823>there was no AR 15The most advanced weaponry at the time were muskets and cannons and colonists could own both. >muh figter jets and tanksFirst of all, you can currently own jets, tanks and explosives and fully auto belt fed machine guns - it just requires a lot of paperwork and fees. None of those things are banned, they're just more heavily regulated. But of course you don't know anything about weapons or weapons regulations because you're a disengenuous faggot repeating talking points youre too stupid to dispute.
>>380670823I'm never going to give up my guns.Every time one of you faggots cries I buy a new gun or ammo can.
>>380671191OH MY GOD IS THAT A FULLY SEMI AUTOMATIC ASSAULT WEAPON???! GIVE ME ONE GOOD REASON YOU NEED THAT
The colonists were better-armed compared to their government than the average citizen is today. In 1760, there were no laws against private ownership cannon or warships. The modern equivalent being RPGs and aircraft carriers.
>>380667138america is full of savages like niggers and spics so giving them as much guns as possible as a form of population control is actually the best thing for europe and the rest of the world. guns take care of merimutts so we dont have to
>>380667138Every time someone makes a well regulated militia the feds raid them
>>380672201same reasons
>>380667138We really need to ban twitter screenshots, or at least convince retards to stop responding to them
>>380670823Kys retard It doesn't matter how powerful the guns are. The point is to ensure that no matter what the military has, the people can equal it.SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>>380667138>UN approved
>>380672817Amen. based leaf.
The word "regulated" in the Second Amendment is used in reference to "regular army" in that the Founding Fathers believed any government-employed soldier(regular army) should be met in our land by equally equipped civilians(a well regulated militia).
>>380667653Key lime and pecan
>>380667138"Well regulated" in 1700s English meant "well equipped".
>>380667653Sweet potato.
>>3806671381700's vernacular it means, "working" like "not a broken rifle" This was further described in the federalist papers written by the same guys that wrote the constitution. So stop posting this shit and just kys all ready
>>380670959>>380671173>>380671191>>380671260>>380671872>>380671918not an argument.>muh feefees!!try again.>>380671037hmmm can you yell fire in a crowded room? guess there are limits to your freeze peach eh?>>380672817>the people can equal drones, tanks, and nuclear weaponsgo ahead, show me some guy in bumfuck nowhere who owns a tank as if that helps your point.
>>380674975There's a guy in AZ who has an old Sherman tank on his property. I watched him fire the loudass cannon.
>>380674975heller, and yes that is an argument because its already been discussed about in the courts.
>>380667583Fuck off your opinions mean less than someone else's after 1776
>>380669256After 1776 u no longer matter your opinions even less
>>380671935Dude you also...Kek
>>380675596Good
>>380667138>“A well regulated library, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Books, shall not be infringed.”
>>380677032This part>“A well regulated library, being necessary to the security of a free State,Has no bearing on this part.> the right of the people to keep and bear Books, shall not be infringed.”
>>380670823>in historical context there was no AR 15 so give it uplook up grape and canister shot
>>380667495>>380669256Bombs are arms and they're regulated. It's been working out find. Despite how easy it is to make a bomb, bombings are rare.
>>380677814you literally don't know what the word means, look up regular vs irregular force
Leftoids like to pat themselves on the back over how smart they think they are yet they fail a simple English test like this.
>>380678031Look up the history of 2A. Bombs are arms and they are regulated.
>>380669256The Bill of Rights is unamendable.
>>380667138It is way past time to trashbin all celebrity opinions.
>>380669256The federal government turned against the people and their right to self-governance in 1860
Well Regulated in those times meant that they were not acting as highwaymen or using their authority or power improperly. Small town "militias" were necessary until the mid 19th century to defend the people from indians, in that time it meant what it means today; common men with arms that keep the peace in times of need. Every armed citizen that is willing to risk their own life to save others is in the "militia"
>>380674975I like how you libshits make fun of rights because you're incapable of living a normal life without being told what to do by daddy government. America isn't for your kind. Leave.
>>380667138>1pbtid>memeflag>twatter screenshot and yet, you retards will still take this thread to bump limit
>>380667653French Silk pie is best pie.
>>380678298Mate, the 2A doesn't even make grammatical sense.
>>380679446its very easy parse, to ensure ability raise militias the access to weapons must be secured
>>380679084That's not 'well regulated' though. What if the 2A didn't even contain the phrase 'well regulated' - how would that change things in your opinion?
>>380679617Let me phrase it in a manner that makes actual sense:Due to a well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of citizens to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
>>380669256Says the guy being sent to consentration camps by his government for a meme flu. The only reason that didnt work in America is because the feds knew they would get shot if they tried that shit here. You get what you deserve faggot. Turn over your arms, your freedoms and spread out those ass cheeks for daddy government. You're cattle and your wife and children will pay for it.
>>380679694it doesn't matter whether the mustered force is regular or irregular
>>380667138No legally ineffective red herring clause in any nation's founding document is more unthinking and short-sighted than the one beginning with "a well-regulated militia".
>>380679968So you're saying the 2A is, in part, redundant?
>>380680170who doesn't know the difference between regular and irregular military force? really stretching the limits of plausibility there
>>380680234if people don't have guns and don't know how to use them you can't raise effective militias
>>380678298well-regulated militia = an armed and trained populace
>>380680370That's not what the 2A says though, silly billy. Otherwise it would read:Because any old cunt with a gun will get the job done, the right of citizens to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
ok regulate themyou can't
>>380667138The Supreme Court already did that, whore.
>>380680577I am questioning your ability to parse English language sentences
>>380680828You can question what you like son, just make a point whilst you do it.
>>380674975Actual tanks are less regulated than guns retard, you don't even need a background check And sometimes a machine gun might be more expensive than a whole ass tank
>>380667138you're right we need more armed militias in this country. In fact every neighborhood should form its own militia instead of some faggy "neighborhood watch" or "home owners association"
>>380667138>1pbtid>129 replies and counting
>>380681015They are tacitly regulated by their sheer lack of feasibility, but that's not what 'regulated' means in the context of the 2A.
>>380667839Pecan would like a word
>>380674975>>muh feefees!!none gave an emotional argument wtf user
>>380667653Chess Pie. Sweet, creamy, eggy flavor
>>380680932you need to re-read the amendment again
>>380680577The 2A is meant for the people to be able to take on a government entity or army. It's not for "any old cunt"That's why the "well regulated" is important. The people have the rite to arms that would allow them to be considered a well regulated militia with regards to the government. Meaning they have the ability to become competent through weapons or training if they so chose.Now obviously this isn't how it's exactly played out in modern times but that doesn't change the fact that's the reason the line is included. Blame the modern government from deviating for the founders if you have a problem with them not being consistent.
>>380667138i cant believe i used to jerk off to her in that one episode of charmed. i feel so betrayed.
>>380667138Supreme Court DecisionHeller vs The District of Columbia(1) The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home(a) The Amendment's prefatory clause announces a purpose, but does not limit or expand the scope of the second part, the operative clause. The operative clause's text and history demonstrate that it connotes an individual right to keep and bear arms.
>>380667138Supreme Court DecisionHeller vs The District of Columbia1 (b) The prefatory clause comports with the Court's interpretation of the operative clause. The "militia" comprised all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense. The Antifederalists feared that the Federal Government would disarm the people in order to disable this citizens' militia, enabling a politicized standing army or a select militia to rule. The response was to deny Congress power to abridge the ancient right of individuals to keep and bear arms, so that the ideal of a citizens' militia would be preservedNow please go away
>>380681338I've read it plenty of times, the unofficial version (yes there are more than one) actually makes more grammatical sense.
>>380667138It's high past time to appoint an independent auditor to assess the role federal agencies have in mass shootings.
>>380667138Doesn't say anywhere only the militia can have guns.
>>380681350>they have the ability to become competentSo owning firearms is predicated on being competent?
>>380681696yeah, it says that because its important that they can raise effective militias, access to weapons must be secured
“A militia when properly formed are in fact the people themselves…and include, according to the past and general usuage of the states, all men capable of bearing arms… "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them."- Richard Henry Lee, Federal Farmer No. 18, January 25, 1788"Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops."- Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, October 10, 1787"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."- William Pitt (the Younger), Speech in the House of Commons, November 18, 1783"Besides the advantage of being armed, which the Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation, the existence of subordinate governments, to which the people are attached, and by which the militia officers are appointed, forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition, more insurmountable than any which a simple government of any form can admit of."- James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788"...the ultimate authority, wherever the derivative may be found, resides in the people alone..."- James Madison, Federalist No. 46, January 29, 1788"The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country."- James Madison, I Annals of Congress 434, June 8, 1789
"A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined..."- George Washington, First Annual Address, to both House of Congress, January 8, 1790"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."- Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776"I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787"What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."- Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks." - Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 19, 1785
We should not give up permanent liberties in response to unusual tragedies.
"The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."- Thomas Jefferson, letter to to John Cartwright, 5 June 1824"On every occasion [of Constitutional interpretation] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying [to force] what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, [instead let us] conform to the probable one in which it was passed."- Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, 12 June 1823"I enclose you a list of the killed, wounded, and captives of the enemy from the commencement of hostilities at Lexington in April, 1775, until November, 1777, since which there has been no event of any consequence ... I think that upon the whole it has been about one half the number lost by them, in some instances more, but in others less. This difference is ascribed to our superiority in taking aim when we fire; every soldier in our army having been intimate with his gun from his infancy."- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Giovanni Fabbroni, June 8, 1778“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."- Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759"To disarm the people...[i]s the most effectual way to enslave them."- George Mason, referencing advice given to the British Parliament by Pennsylvania governor Sir William Keith, The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adooption of the Federal Constitution, June 14, 1788"I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers."- George Mason, Address to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 4, 1788
>>380668930>use complicated secret clues or coded messages to identify one another"I'm just a lucky guy"
>>380681758if you hold rifle for the first time when firing a volley at a live enemy you're going to get massacred
"Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined.... The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun."- Patrick Henry, Speech to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 5, 1778"This may be considered as the true palladium of liberty.... The right of self defense is the first law of nature: in most governments it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of the people to keep and bear arms is, under any color or pretext whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the brink of destruction."- St. George Tucker, Blackstone's Commentaries on the Laws of England, 1803"The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms."- Samuel Adams, Massachusetts Ratifying Convention, 1788"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms. . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."- Jefferson's "Commonplace Book," 1774-1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764
>>380667138"Regulated" in this context means well armed and actively training. It's "regulated" as in "regular" vs "irregular" troops. Like all those militias that the feds gayoped in the 90s
>>380667138you guys want to start a militia?
>>380670823>Dude the 1st amendment was before the internet so the government should be able to arrest you for what you say online
>>380670823Nigger
>>380681919Firstly, that happened anyway, but regardless it's like saying 'because we need a logistical infrastructure, the right of people to keep and bear HGVs shall not be infringed'
>>380682114I run a private mercenary company called the Paladin Group
>>380667138It was acknowledged. Just because retards think it wasn't doesn't mean we have to revisit it.
>>380668930I don't even use secret codes. I just went to the HOA meeting one day and started talking to my neighbors and we formed a neighborhood watch militia. We don't really do anything, but if some redcoats move in and want to join our death squad, they can go in the grave too.
>>380682224you're being duplicitous and deceitful
>>380682114yeah, that sounds like fun desu
>>380667138What do you faggot shills honestly think you're accomplishing here? You're clearly not organic, you all show up at once, you all read from the same script, you all use the same database of images, you all use the same VPN's and hide your flags, and you stand out like your fucking heads are on fire. You're not changing anybody's mind, you're not convincing anyone that they're in the minority for their opinion, so what the fuck is the point? Is it just to spam and slide threads your paymasters don't want us discussing? How fucking pathetic are you to get a job where you earn 50 cents a post and sit in a data center all day posting obvious bullshit, with absolutely nothing to show for it? Get a real job. Get a hobby. Get a girlfriend. Do fucking anything besides being an embarrassment on an anonymous cartoon imageboard. Fuck.
>>380682375That's the sort of thing someone says when they don't have an argument to return.
>>380667138I don't know how this could be more simple. Article 1 of the constitution gives Congress the power to regulate the militia including how they are armed. The Second Amendment precludes the Federal Government from banning guns. Somebody asked the logical question "Hey, if you can't restrict what guns people have, doesn't it contradict the enumerated power in Article 1 to regulate the arming of the militia?" The language about well regulated militia is acknowledging the Article 1 powers over the arming of the militia and preventing some smart ass from trying to ban guns under those powers to circumvent the intent of the 2nd.
>>380667247According to federal law, you're automatically in the militia if you're between the ages of 17 and 45. Other things, such as joining the national guard or state guard, etc. also qualify as militia membership according to federal law.
>>380682482computer languages read arguments from left to right and doing conditional comparisons they stop reading at the first false if they're all required to be true
>>380681758Other way around. Being competent at taking on the government is predicated on having firearms. Hence "shall not be infringed"
>>380682594It has already been 'infringed' in New York.
>>380669256>your argument should be exactly what you need guns forJust like I need to justify what I need free speech, freedom of religion, freedom from unlawful searches and seizures, and freedom from slavery? Fuck you. I own guns so I can shoot commie faggots who try to violate my rights. Now go suck napalm out of Satan's firey dickhole in hell, you worthless piece of shit.
>>380682764Cool story bro, in a previous life I was a programmer.
>>380682971I literally stopped reading at>Firstly, that happened anywaybecause it returned a false
>>380680170Would it be better for you if it was spelled out in Swedish-English?>Aye bro, sometimes you need a squad cuh, the homies better have access to gats nigga fr fr
>>380670823Cops and other federal agents just spent an hour jerking off and cowering over a guy with a rifle shooting fucking grade schoolers. You think they're going to be compelled to embark on the bloodiest, most pyrrhic police action in modern human history? For you? Fuck man, go for it.
>>380682889The 2nd amendment was never meant to apply to the states. Any state may bad whatever gun they wish to. Incorporation was a vile progressive doctrine that has ruined the country.
>>380667138>It is way past time to acknowledge the words “well regulated” in the 2nd amendmentSure thing allow people to qualify with their firearms every year and remove all restrictions from them. well regulated guns everywhere then. No more high target zones.
>>380667138well regulated means cheaper bullets
>>380683108Parsers will stop at a syntax error, 'false' returns are perfectly acceptable. You don't know what you are talking about.
Stop replying to shit bait>380670823>380674975
>>380667479>I get a full auto M4.publicly funded ammofull auto gets pricey, thats why we invented burst mode
>>380667138what does well regulated have to do with the right to bear arms
More importantly, we need to recognize the word "free" appearing in the 2A. Clearly guns should be given out free of charge otherwise the word wouldn't be there. Free is free. Now give us the guns
>>380667138Listen up shitdicks.Nobody gives a fuck if you and Skeeter and Cletus want to murder all your local wildlife in bumfuck Idaho with your grandpappy's shotgun. Nobody is kicking in your fucking door to take your fucking hunting rifle. What we, meaning reasonable people with a working brain in our heads, mean when we say "gun control" are measures enacted with the goal of preventing mentally deranged people from owning weapons designed to kill as many people as efficiently as possible.>but muh 2nd AmendmentThere is nothing in the Constitution that says you have some God given right to own a fucking AR-15 or AK-47, which oddly enough are the weapons of choice for every fucking pasty white mass shooter in the last 20 years. Gun control WILL happen in this country whether you like it or not.Enough is enough.
>>380683527it means well supplied
>>380669256It can be Amended, and it has not. Because Americans will not tolerate such European groveling to our masters. The argument is simple. The government protects the rights that a man already has. The government is not there to protect needs or gibs.
>>380683251Makes total sense that a document seeking to form the backbone of your nation comprising 'inalienable' rights can be revoked as and when. Whatever happened to 'SHALL'?
>>380683664Cool, anything else? I didn't read anything you said i kind of skimmed and just thought, wow this guys a faggot
>>380667138So does the first part of the ammendanent or whatever allows anyone to form a militia?Because I'm sure the fbi has killed people that do that many times already
>>380683424function funcA(){ return false;}function funcB(){ return true;}if(funcA() && funcB()) { return true;}return false;//output will always be false
>>380669256You are a retard and your view of “the government” is that of a literal toddler.
>>380683877not only will it always be false, funcB will never even run
>>380674975You can yell fire in a crowded room in America. Supreme Court ruled on that, but you probably only get your talking points from TV. Can you pat your head and rub your own belly at the same time without falling over?
>>380667138but we literally already have
>>380667138It doesnt matter how many regulations, or how many laws you set to prevent gun crimes. Statistically most gun crimes come from federally charged criminals and mentally unstable criminals who will get access to a gun circumventing any law you place. It's not the gun it's the person, we need to reform criminals and abolish private prisons.
>>380683877This will yield a warning from sufficiently capable parsers/compilers (do you even know the difference?) But it will not 'stop'. Just shuffle off now, you are boring.
>>380667138> We need to talk about the words "well-regulated"You're right. Thanks for bringing this important subject up. The government needs to subsidize private militias and gun ownership much, much more with taxpayer money.
>>380684202>But it will not 'stop'yes, it will, the comparison will not run funcB, it stops at first false
>>380670823>in historical contextIn the historical context the smoothbore musket was the assault rifle of the time. The cannon and puckle guns the crew served machine guns of the time. Ergo I have a right to a belt fed medium machine gun mounted on my car. And I'm going to have that machine gun. And yes, it might be over your dead body.
>>380674975>hmmm can you yell fire in a crowded room?Yes.
>>380683754>document seeking to form the backbone of your nation comprising 'inalienable' rightsThe constitution only purports to set the metes and bounds of the Federal Government. It does not grant any rights whatsoever to the people.
>>380683664> Enough is enoughWonder if you said that when Biden's government was threatening to destroy entire business over pharmaceutical corruption. You know why we need more guns? So that faggot trannies like you can kill themselves easier.
>>380679446Looks like we did well l to throw your shitty tea in the ocean. We tried to warn you guys with a letter, but by your own admission you can't read.
>>380684342Let me simplify your program for you:return false;Your program returns false.
>>380667138A clean asshole being necessary for good anal health, the right of the people to keep and bear nigger tongues should not be infringed.
>>380684827imagine funcA and funcB get their values from a database or something, and I just showed you what you're getting with current inputsfuncB will never run because funcA returns a false, its truthiness is not determined at any point
>>380684649A well regulated militia, I liek chocolate milk, the right of citizens to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.That's what I see when I read the illiterate shite your founding fathers scrawled in their own shit.
>>38066713860,000 more people a year die from opioid overdoses than they do attacks involving a firearm
>>380683859he's likely also a Jew, or a jew shill
>>380685038You are autistic, but without the intelligence, congratulations. Here is a ball, you may bounce the ball.
>>380679446Its an oddly structured sentence but the meaning behind it is well documented in the federalist papers
>>380685240you're an idiot and a poor liar
>>380667138It's past time to listen to shall not be infringed
>>380685312>oddlyWorms, being necessary to the condition of the soil, farmers should grow crops.
The SCOTUS literally did in Heller v DC and McDonald v Chicago. You faggot gun grabbers won't win.
>>380681973You are retarded and don't understand grammar. The meaning of "regulated" is irrelevant. Getting caught up in that bs only helps anti-gun rethoric. The grammar is simple: we need a militia, therefore people should have guns.
>>380667896They know it doesn't mean that. They don't care. They're just using that as ammunition to try to completely criminalize guns. They're just very dishonest, conniving people. If these people had any honesty, they would just admit that they don't believe in the constitution or the Bill of Rights to begin with. Some of them actually are honest enough to admit that even if it's just occasional Freudian slips.
the amendment is very clear, to ensure ability to raise (effective) militias, the civilian ownership (and familiarity) of firearms must be secured
>>380685741We've just been through this sven, just now.
>>380685840you couldn't tell a plausible life to save your life
>>380685741You are wrong in the intent. The purpose for including the militia language is to make it clear that congress may not disarm the public via Art. 1 Sec. 8.
>>380684087I just looked that up, lol, no one over 45 is part of the unorganized militia. I'm down with this. Take boomer guns.
>>380683121No, it would be better without the first clause, to read simply, "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
>>380685893I assume you meant 'lie', but that implies I intend to deceive. I am the light.
>>380667138My militia identifies as Well Regulated
>>380686084No one over 45 is required to be part of the militia, doesn't mean they aren't allowed to own guns.
>>380667138What is a gun snow, and why we need to regulate it?
watch any movie about the 1700s there is talk of “regulars” and “irregulars” not just America but Europe….Regulars were the state troops, irregulars were levied soldiers.In light of the distinction between regular troopers and irregular troopers, what do you think “a well regulated militia” means?
>>380686707>what do you think “a well regulated militia” means?It means that Article 1 Section 8 can coincide with the Second Amendment
>>380686707So it means regular troopers? This gets fucking worse.
>>380686286The justification for the the people having any right, even spelt out in the document granting it, is irrelevant legally. It's only ever used as a red herring argument.
>>380669809>>380669946>>380670042Id kill for a real keylime pie again. I haven't had one in 20 years.
>>380686960this "Englishman" doesn't speak English
>>380670823You could own warships as a private citizenIf you want to take away assault rifles due to the historic context, I sure hope you're all for reinstating warships for private citizen
>>380687206Damn son, just looked that up.
>>380687423I know you must be butthurt right now, but it'll pass.