I am Christian and studied the bible for 28 years

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>>364836742how was your day?

>>364836742ARE YOU THE GUY FROM /INT/

>>364836882Fine, thanks !>>364836928Yes

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>>364836742Jews created catholicism thats why its so fake and gaythis is not a question this is a statement of facts return to levitican baptism or russian orthodoxy

>>364837213I am not catholic. These include apostolic succession, worship of saints or Mary, prayer to saints or Mary, the trinity, papacy, infant baptism, transubstantiation, plenary indulgences, the sacramental system, hellfire and purgatory. While Catholics claim Scriptural support for these concepts, none of these teachings have any solid foundation in the clear teaching of Scripture. These concepts are based on Catholic tradition, not the Word of God. In fact, they all clearly contradict Biblical principles.

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>>364836742Thoughts on the following:RaptureZionismDispensationalism

>>364836742favourite parablefavourite character/saint (not including JC)

>>364836742you're Jehovah's Witnesses (or christian) and you keep shitting up /his/. Please stay here and never go back to /his/

>>364836742which one of these posts was the funniest in your opinion:desuarchive.org/his/thread/11629703

What is the real true denomination? With 45k denominations fighting each other, which one is the church that Christ established?

>>364836742Can you convert me?

>>364838485To ash you say?

>>364837398>catholic traditionmore like hapsburg trust funds

>>364836742What does the term "Sleep in the dust of the earth" mean?

>>364836742how to reconcile free will and God's omniscienceis one exists the other can't, and God wouldn't be God if he wasn't omniscient, therefore free will must be fake

How many foreskins to buy a wife these days?

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>>364836742I hate the French. Why are you all smelly pigs who shower once a week? Why do you hate English speakers? Why does your language sound like someone hawkin phlegm?

>>364836742when the Lord asks Moses to sit in the notch and says something like "I will close my eyes so that you cannot see me" and then "I will turn my back to you and you will see my backside" or something like that can you tell if this is meant to be Meritrye Hatshepsut, whose name is not to be taken in vain, (stoning at the wedding of the egyptian) and Thutmose III, and does she really think that she can't be seen if she closes her eyes?

>>364836742It's one book, dude. Why'd it take you 28 years?

>>364836742Why is there something rather than nothing

>>364836742Do you think that the trinity is the one truth ?Also what are your thoughts on Tawhiid(one god one religion to rule them all) ?

has op abandoned us?

>>364837984>Rapturethe Bible clearly shows that “the sign of the Son of man” will appear in heaven and that Jesus will come “on the clouds of heaven.” (Matt. 24:30) Both of these expressions imply invisibility. Additionally, “flesh and blood cannot inherit God’s Kingdom.” So those who will be taken to heaven will first need to be “changed, in a moment, in the blink of an eye, during the last trumpet.” (Read 1 Corinthians 15:50-53.) >ZionismChristians must not advocate any political arrangement, which would include Zionism. >DispensationalismI don't know what this is>>364838028I love the parable of the prodigal son, it teaches us a lot about God's love and forgivenessMy favorite character is Paul !

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>>364836742Are you a promiscuous bisexual?

>>364838339True religion teaches the truth that is based on the Bible, not on human philosophies. (John 4:24; 17:17) This includes religious truths about the soul and the hope of everlasting life on a paradise earth. (Psalm 37:29; Isaiah 35:5, 6; Ezekiel 18:4) It also does not hold back from exposing religious falsehood.—Matthew 15:9; 23:27, 28. True religion helps people to know God, including teaching them his name, Jehovah. (Psalm 83:18; Isaiah 42:8; John 17:3, 6) It does not teach that he is incomprehensible or aloof; rather, it teaches that he wants us to have a relationship with him.—James 4:8. True religion highlights Jesus Christ as the one through whom God grants salvation. (Acts 4:10, 12) Its followers obey Jesus’ commands and strive to follow his example.—John 13:15; 15:14. True religion focuses on God’s Kingdom as mankind’s only hope. Its followers actively tell others about that Kingdom.—Matthew 10:7; 24:14. True religion promotes unselfish love. (John 13:35) It teaches respect for all ethnic groups and welcomes people from all races, cultures, languages, and backgrounds. (Acts 10:34, 35) Moved by love, its followers do not go to war.—Micah 4:3; 1 John 3:11, 12. True religion has no paid clergy, and it does not give high-sounding religious titles to its ministers.—Matthew 23:8-12; 1 Peter 5:2, 3. True religion is completely neutral in political affairs. (John 17:16; 18:36) True religion is a way of life, not just a ritual or a formality. Its followers adhere to the Bible’s high moral standards in all aspects of life. (Ephesians 5:3-5; 1 John 3:18) Rather than being grim, though, they find joy in worshipping “the happy God.”—1 Timothy 1:11. Those who practice true religion will be in the minority. (Matthew 7:13, 14) Those who follow the true religion are often looked down on, ridiculed, and persecuted for doing God’s will.—Matthew 5:10-12.

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>>364838339forget about "The Church". God's religion isn't an organization. It's a guide for humanity. Submit to God as it was laid out in his message, by his Messenger the prophet Muhammad peace be upon him. This way you will be amongst the successful and you will be guided on the right path.

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>>364836742>I am Christian>Jehovah False WitnessNoAlsoHebrews 1:8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.Psalm 45;6 Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom is a right sceptre.7 Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.Jesus is God. Deal with it cult member

>>364836928No, he's the guy from /his/.

>>364836742You are Jehovah's witness shizophrenic satanist aren't you

>>364838485jw.org/he/עדי-יהוה/צור-קשר/ארצות-הברית/>>364838650Jesus said: “The hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.” (John 5:28, 29) These words point to a literal resurrection of dead mankind, and doubtless this resurrection, too, is an extended fulfillment of the angel’s words: “Many of those asleep in the ground of dust . . . will wake up.”—Daniel 12:2.

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>>364839212He is a Jehovah's witness, literally burger incorporated version of Christianity

>>364840373Psalm 45 is talking to God and he says God has a God. And in Hebrews 1 it clearly says it's talking about JesusI'm sorry OP, but you're in a cult

>>364836742Catholicism is the only correct form of Christianity. Anything else is cope

>>364838655God can be omniscient, but he does not have to use this capability, just as he does not always have to use his immense power to the full.Jehovah wisely uses his ability of foreknowledge selectively. He uses it when it makes sense to do so and fits the circumstances.The Scriptures show that on many occasions God did not make use of his ability of foreknowledge.For example, when faithful Abraham went to the point of attempting to sacrifice his son, Jehovah could say: “Now I do know that you are God-fearing in that you have not withheld your son, your only one, from me.” (Genesis 22:12)On the other hand, there were also occasions when the bad conduct of certain individuals caused God to “feel hurt.”Would he have felt such pain if he had long known what they would do ?—Psalm 78:40, 41; 1 Kings 11:9, 10.Thus, it is only reasonable to conclude that the all-wise God did not exercise his ability of foreknowledge to know in advance that our first parents would sin.He was not so foolish as to embark on a bizarre venture, using his ability to know the outcome in advance and then staging a mere rerun of what he already knew.>>364838878I didn't understand anything in your post I'm sorry>>364838948reading =/= studyingYou can study the Bible for a lifetime and always learn something new !

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>>364840993This man is a cultist, just leave

>>364836742WHY DO YOU FOLLOW THE ANTI-CHRIST IN ROME FROG YOU WILL NOT BE SAVED ON THAT DAY

>>364839063consider the principle of cause and effect.Each effect is the result of some cause, and each cause is the effect of a prior causeHowever that chain of causes cannot go on infinitely into the past, or else the chain would never actually start.Logic demands something eternally existent and that is not itself the effect of anything else.Our universe, clearly, is not eternal or uncausedLogic points to God: the uncreated, eternal measure of all other things, the First Cause of our reality !>>364839212You are correct, the God of the Bible is never described as being part of a Trinity. Note these Bible passages: “Jehovah our God is one Jehovah.”—Deuteronomy 6:4. “You, whose name is Jehovah, you alone are the Most High over all the earth.”—Psalm 83:18. “God is only one.”—Galatians 3:20.please read:jw.org/ar/المكتبة/مجلات/g201308/الثالوث/>>364839342Sorry, I changed computers and this one is slow

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>>364840105I am not. The Bible’s standard regarding homosexual acts is clear. God’s Word says: “You must not lie down with a male in the same way that you lie down with a woman.”—Leviticus 18:22. “God, in keeping with the desires of their hearts, . . . gave them over to uncontrolled sexual passion, for their females changed the natural use of themselves into one contrary to nature.”—Romans 1:24, 26. “Do not be misled. Those who are sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, men who submit to homosexual acts, men who practice homosexuality, thieves, greedy people, drunkards, revilers, and extortioners will not inherit God’s Kingdom.”—1 Corinthians 6:9, 10. In reality, God’s standards apply to all people, whether they have homosexual desires or heterosexual desires. The fact is, everyone must exercise self-restraint when it comes to urges to engage in conduct that displeases God.—Colossians 3:5.>>364840213God wants people to gather for worship. The Bible says: “Let us consider one another so as to motivate to love and fine works, not forsaking our meeting together.”—Hebrews 10:24, 25 Jesus indicated that his followers would form an organized group when he said to them: “By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves.” (John 13:35) As a primary way of showing this love, disciples of Christ would associate with fellow believers. They would be organized into congregations that meet regularly for worship. (1 Corinthians 16:19) Collectively, they would form a worldwide brotherhood.—1 Peter 2:17.

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>>364840373>>364840784literally the original NT Greek manuscripts read: “Toward but the son the throne of you the god into the age of the age.”No one should deny that the title theos (NT Greek word meaning “God,” “god,” “mighty one,” “divine,” etc.) can be applied to Jesus, just as it was applied in the scriptures to angels, judges of Israel, Moses, and (according to some trinitarian authorities) even the kings of Israel.But theos is never applied to Jesus with the most high sense that is given only to the Almighty, Most High, only true God.So it could have been used at Heb. 1:8 in its positive secondary sense:“Your throne, o mighty one [theos], is ...”. This seems even more probable when we remember that Paul is really quoting from Ps. 45:6.Psalm 45 is celebrating an Israelite king’s marriage, and the psalmist applies the words of Ps. 45:6, 7 literally to an ancient Israelite king. In fact, the trinitarian New American Standard Bible (NASB), Reference Edition, explains in a footnote for Ps. 45:1, “Probably refers to Solomon as a type of Christ.”So, according to this trinitarian Bible, the words of Ps. 45:6, although figuratively referring to Jesus, were literally applied to an ancient Israelite king >>364840494I browse both lol>>364840496I am not satanist at all. >>364840690Jehovah's witnesses were founded by Jesus in 33 AD during Pentecost in Antioch

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>>364837398You are wrong about everything you said. except not being catholic. That one is pretty true.

>>364840610That's not what it mean. You are taking it literaly, but it's simply a metaphor for people who are doing nothing with their life (sleeping) while spending their time with useless stuff (like sex, alcool, drog, etc..) dust mean : Who has no value

>>364841723which is why you should go to mosque

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>>364840993>>364841272>>364842668I am not catholic. The most crucial problem with the Roman Catholic Church is its belief that faith alone in Christ is not sufficient for salvation. The Bible clearly and consistently states that receiving Jesus Christ as Savior, by grace through faith, grants salvation (John 1:12; 3:16,18,36; Acts 16:31; Romans 10:9-10,13; Ephesians 2:8-9). The Roman Catholic Church rejects this. >>364841107We are not a cult. Rather, we are Christians who do our best to follow the example set by Jesus Christ and to live by his teachings.

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>>364843052Among those included in this particular awakening will be Daniel himself. He was told by the angel: “As for you yourself, go toward the end; and you will rest [fall asleep in death], but you will stand up for your lot at the end of the days.” (Daniel 12:13) Those like Daniel who are resurrected then and who respond to the ministry of Jesus and his brothers from heaven will be raised to human perfection. When they pass the final test, they will have their names permanently inscribed in the book of life. (Revelation 20:5) For them, too, the awakening will be “to indefinitely lasting life.”>>364843073Muslims do not believe Jesus died on the stake. They do not understand why Allah would allow His prophet Isa to die a torturous death. Yet the Bible shows how the death of the perfect Son of God was essential to pay for the sins of the world (Isaiah 53:5-6; John 3:16; 14:6; 1 Peter 2:24).Islam teaches that the Qur'an is the final authority and the last revelation of Allah. The Bible, however, was completed in the first century with the Book of Revelation. The Bible warns against anyone adding to or subtracting from God’s Word (Deuteronomy 4:2; Proverbs 30:6; Galatians 1:6-12; Revelation 22:18). The Qur’an, as a claimed addition to God’s Word, directly disobeys God’s command.Muslims believe that paradise can be earned through keeping the Five Pillars. The Bible, in contrast, reveals that sinful man can never measure up to the holy God (Romans 3:23; 6:23). Only by God’s grace may sinners be saved through repentant faith in Jesus (Acts 20:21; Ephesians 2:8-9).Because of these essential differences and contradictions, Islam and Christianity cannot both be true. The Bible and Qur’an cannot both be God’s Word. The truth has eternal consequences.

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>>36483674228 Years? Damn, frogs are slow readers.Go back to >>>/lit/

why did you waste your time?

>>364836742Do you think you have gotten enough good goy points to get into heaven now?

>>364843961I did not. The more I stidy the Bible, the more I know more about our Creator. As I grow in knowledge of God, my faith will become stronger. Faith helps you to please God. (Hebrews 11:1, 6)It moves me to repent and to make beneficial changes in my way of life.— Acts 3:19

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>>364841342I understand , and you answered my question .

>>364844195God selects a limited number of faithful Christians who, after their death, will be resurrected to life in heaven. (1 Peter 1:3, 4)They will serve alongside Jesus as kings and priests for 1,000 years. (Revelation 5:9, 10; 20:6) They will form the “new heavens,” that will rule over the “new earth"The Bible indicates that 144,000 people will be resurrected to heavenly life. (Revelation 7:4)God promises everlasting life on earth for most good people.—Psalm 37:11, 29, 34.Jesus said: “No man has ascended into heaven.” (John 3:13) He thus showed that good people who died before him, such as Abraham, Moses, Job, and David, did not go to heaven. (Acts 2:29, 34) Instead, they had the hope of being resurrected to life on earth.—Job 14:13-15.The resurrection to heavenly life is called “the first resurrection.” (Revelation 20:6) This indicates that there will be another resurrection. It will be an earthly one.I won't go to heaven and I prefer it that way, lol. My friend's grandma is one of them.>>364844259No problem, may Jehovah God bless your day my friend !

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>>364836742Long live Israel.

No one cares you spent your life studying Jewish myths

>>364843088>belief that faith alone in Christ is not sufficient for salvationYou dont even believe Jesus is God though, therefore you cut yourselves from that one.Also even demons and satanists and many unrepentant sinners believe in Jesus, yet their fate is hell.So clearly more than faith is needed, our participation in His will. "If you would enter life, keep the commandments.” >Jehovah's witnesses were founded by Jesus in 33 ADthen the 144000 are already full by now.

>>364836742There's no god, Jesus didn't exist and half the books in the bible are forgeries.

How do I summon a succubus?This is important.

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>>364836742Christ is King

Post some gud verses for /fit/ bro

>>364838339None. Christ did NOT establish any church.Nor anything in the Bible are his words.Some guys were ganging around, occasionally writing something after someone.

>>364844603Not myths. Where we can check biblical claims against verifiable truth, the Bible proves itself accurate. History, archaeology, science, and philosophy have shown Scripture to be factual and consistent. This correspondence between various forms of evidence is a major advantage the Bible has over the scriptures of any other faith system.>>364844776>You dont even believe Jesus is God though, therefore you cut yourselves from that one.Why ? >Also even demons and satanists and many unrepentant sinners believe in Jesus, yet their fate is hell.To gain salvation, you must exercise faith in Jesus and demonstrate that faith by obeying his commands.—Acts 4:10, 12; Romans 10:9, 10; Hebrews 5:9. The Bible shows that you must have works, or acts of obedience, to prove that your faith is alive. (James 2:24, 26) >So clearly more than faith is needed, our participation in His will. "If you would enter life, keep the commandments.”However, this does NOT mean that you can earn salvation. It is “God’s gift” based on his “undeserved kindness,” or “grace.”—Ephesians 2:8, 9>then the 144000 are already full by now.See: jw.org/pt/biblioteca/revistas/a-sentinela-estudo-novembro-2016/escuridao-luz/https://www.jw.org/pt/biblioteca/revistas/a-sentinela-estudo-novembro-2016/estudantes-da-biblia-libertados-religiao-falsa/>>364844781False

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What happened to Esau? I forgot what became of him.

>>364836742I listened to pastor Anderson for maybe a week, I am Christian now. Or at least monotheistic. And aware of some of the tricks (((they))) use daily. Thanks, pastor Anderson, for boosting morale.

>>364844929Correct !>>364845080Take responsibility for your health.—Galatians 6:5. Avoid making excuses. (Ecclesiastes 11:4) For example, you don’t need to sign up at a gym to start your exercise program. Just find an activity that you enjoy and make it part of your routine. To get ideas, ask others what they do for exercise.—Proverbs 20:18. Have a specific schedule. Set goals and log your progress to keep yourself motivated.—Proverbs 21:5. Find someone to exercise with you. A “workout buddy” will cheer you on and help you stick to a routine.—Ecclesiastes 4:9, 10. Expect setbacks, and don’t give up when you face them.—Proverbs 24:10.

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>>3648367421. Do you think the catholic church was and is inflitrated by satanists?2 - why is the holy Symbol the lord Jesus, dying on a cross, "defeated" by his enemies3 - why do they tell humans to eat his flesh and drink his blood in there Rituals?- why do the Catholic preachers distract the attention much more about the rituals and "the how", than the actual meaning of Jesus words, "the message"?4- is eating animals killing innocent beeings?

5- is Adam the monkey and Eve the human?

>>364843446Angels are hella gay bro

>>364844200you sound like a massive faggot desu m8

>>364836742LOL, get fucked christkike

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>>364836742Why are modern churches basically saying that homosexual relations between men are now A-ok? I thought we were meant to resist the spirit of the world?

>>364845970I'm not catholic so I do not care for what they do or believe>>364846299No>>364847204why ?>>364847308no I don't>>364848498The apostle Paul wrote a warning for the church: “The time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear” (2 Timothy 4:3).

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>>364848756well it really doesnt get more crystal clear than that does it.

>>364848892“Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will.”—MATTHEW 7:21

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>>364848756>>364849398i go to a modern church but i basically ignore them when it comes to the revisionism. I just cant talk about it though because they wont even discuss the idea that they might be wrong about all that. Its really depressing actually because i feel like they arent real christians. They as people, are fine, they mean well but they really dont understand god.

>>364849557Yes you are rightThe Bible gives hints as to how to recognize the true true worshippers of Godjw.org/en/library/books/good-news-from-god/recognize-true-worshippers/

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>>364836742Why do you care about bastardized Canaanite mythology?

>>364836742why are you confident "Jehovah" is the correct pronunciation? besides germanic languages that turn the "y" and "i" sound in Semitic languages into a "j" sound. In no Hebrew bible would the text have been even close to it being "Jehovah".Whatever the correct pronunciation was, it was going to have "YHWH" as it's main base and structure.

>>364836742Jesus is the Son of God,He is the only human ever, that gave us the key to break the circle of revenge and revenge..he taught us we can awake paradise with forgiveness and love, he's right, he has unlimited access to the source...Of course evil spirits needed to distract people from his message, so they founded the church.They founded the church to stand in-between the people and God's words. Archiving it by misenterpretating and distraction...Preachers and catholics go to church, taking care about how they are dressed, how they look, how they smile, if the car is washed...those humans would barely like church if they would be confronted by God's will inside..but no, it's like an alibi, they go there and know, I just have to be kind and that's it...The preacher won't say, sell your watch and feed the homeless...church is a safespace for "pretenders", the people Jesus liked the less...I absolutely Respekt your study of the Bible, but if you can't answer, I think you've just waisted your time, it's not about reading these words, it's about understanding their meaning..Peace

>>364850088Thank you, do you belong to a congregation? It seems like youve researched the bible for a long time.

>>364850273Canaanites are descendants of Canaan the Hamite.Their religion was pagan in nature as they worshipped similar deities than that of the Syrians like Baal, Ashtoreth and Dagon.Their culture centered around abominable acts against nature like child sacrifice, sodomy, bestiality and other such iniquities that made God require their that Israel never mingles with them or adopt their way of thinking.Canaanites later made many colonies in the Mediterranean notably Carthage in Tunisia.Israelites were Semites who worshipped only the true God Jehovah.As God's people, they were chosen for their kinship to the nomad Abraham. After their deliverance from slavery in Egypr, they made a covenant with God and were to show the way to other nations as to how to live according to God's standards, and that was the purpose of the Torah.The Israelites would bless mankind by means of the Messiah who'd come out of one of the tribes (Judah) as his life and teachings would bring light to all and his death demonstrate Jehovah's love for us by redeeming us from our sins.They are two completely different civilizations >>364850303>why are you confident "Jehovah" is the correct pronunciationI am not. Jehovah is simply english for YHWH, just like Jesus is english for Yeshuah. We use Jehovah because that's the most common form in english. Other languages pronounce it differently. For example, in Aranic it's Yahwah. In Japanese it's Ehoba.

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>>364850685Yes I do ! And you are welcome to attend to oneFor two years we've been doing it through Zoom because of Covid, I hope that soon we will resume our in-person gatherings !

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>>364850449>Jesus is the Son of God>He is the only human>God>humanlol you contradicted yourself in the first 2 sentences you typed. why should I even bother reading the rest of the text blocks you wrote haha

>>364850998Getting nervous aintya..

>>364848756You've clearly never met one

>>364850903Thank you, i think there is a JW church in my town, i might check it out at some point.

>>364850998to me it doesn't matter, we are all kids of God, Jesus is the one that cracked the riddle, so he must have been extremely close to entire wisdom..

>>364851582Most importalty, pray to God about itHe will guide you because he loves you.“This is the confidence that we have toward him, that no matter what we ask according to his will, he hears us.” (1 John 5:14)

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>>364836742What does the Bible say about LARPing or daydreaming?

>>364852222nothing

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>>364836742How do we resist sin while coming to 4chan when everything is balanced towards sinning here? Name calling, fighting, instigating suicides, slothfulness, lust and anger?

>>364841938>So, according to this trinitarian Bible, the words of Ps. 45:6, although figuratively referring to Jesus, were literally applied to an ancient Israelite kingWell that's again just copium and I don't get my doctrine from some current Bible like the NASB. And if you want say it's figuratively referring to Christ, that would make sense because Christ is GodAnd then what's even the point in bringing it up in Hebrews 1

>>364836742where is hell?

>>364851999wow, checked. Yes i am not always perfect but i do pray basically every day the lords prayer even if i dont have anything specific to add, sometimes i do ask for other things too. But its the real connection i have with god.

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>>364843088>Church is its belief that faith alone in Christ is not sufficient for salvationThe Jehovah False Witnesses literally teach the same thing

>>364852501Hell is a state of being outside of the grace of God.

>>364852222A lot...There are many moments where they say for example...You Shall not pray outside in front of the people and throw dust on your head and mimikri the ambitious...if you pray, do it on your own, you can connect to god anywhere..don't LARP the ultrareligious...

>>364839737>Dispensationalism>I don't know what this isIt is the theory of this diagram, versus covenant theology, which I don't understand

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>>364844413>The Bible indicates that 144,000 people will be resurrected to heavenly life. (Revelation 7:4)You do realize that was 12,000 men from each tribe to preach the gospel during God's wrath, right? It's not special people that are the only ones allowed to Go to heaven. And literally in that verse it says it's if the tribes of Israel. So I guess if you're not an OT saint then you're screwed right?4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

>fake and gay stories about sand savagesWhy should I care?

>>364852986thank you for the picture. saved no pun intended

>>364836742why are American evangelicals so godamn annoying out of all the denominations?

>>364852381“Do not be misled. Bad associations spoil useful habits.”—1 Cor. 15:33>>364852501The original words translated as “hell” in some older Bible translations (Hebrew, “Sheol”; Greek, “Hades”) basically refer to “the Grave,” that is, the common grave of mankind. The Bible shows that people in “the Grave” are in a state of nonexistence. The dead are unconscious and so cannot feel pain. “Neither work, nor reason, nor wisdom, nor knowledge, shall be in hell.” (Ecclesiastes 9:10) Hell is not filled with sounds of pain. Instead, the Bible says: “Let the wicked be ashamed, and let them be silent in the grave.”—Psalm 31:17; King James Version (30:18); Psalm 115:17. God has set death, not torment in a fiery hell, as the penalty for sin. God told the first man, Adam, that the penalty for breaking God’s law would be death. (Genesis 2:17) He said nothing about eternal torment in hell. Later, after Adam sinned, God told him what his punishment would be: “Dust you are and to dust you will return.” (Genesis 3:19) He would pass out of existence. If God were actually sending Adam to a fiery hell, He surely would have mentioned it. God has not changed the punishment for defying his laws. Long after Adam sinned, God inspired a Bible writer to say: “The wages sin pays is death.” (Romans 6:23) No further penalty is justified, because “the one who has died has been acquitted from his sin.”—Romans 6:7. The idea of eternal torment is repugnant to God. (Jeremiah 32:35) Such an idea is contrary to the Bible’s teaching that “God is love.” (1 John 4:8) He wants us to worship him out of love, not fear of eternal torment.—Matthew 22:36-38.

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>>364836742How many men did King David slay in his life?

For anyone that actually wants to get saved, watch thisyoutu.be/EaQmKNg1Q70

>>364841938>Jehovah's witnesses were founded by Jesus in 33 AD during Pentecost in AntiochSo are you a Jehova's witness or not? Yes or no?

>>364852473if Ps. 45:6 is properly translated, “your throne, O God ...” then that ancient Israelite King (Solomon?) was also literally called “O God” (or “O god”?). In fact, the highly trinitarian New American Bible, St. Joseph Edition, 1970, explains in a footnote for this verse:“The Hebrew king was called ... ‘God,’ not in the polytheistic sense common among the ancientpagans, but as meaning ‘godlike’ or ‘taking the place of God’.”The trinitarian Easy-to-read-Version also says in a footnote for this passage:“God .... here the writer might be using the word ‘God’ as a title for the king.” (Cf. NIV Study Bible f.n. for Pss. 45:6 and 82:1, 6.)(And the revised 1991 ed. of the NAB actually translates Ps. 45:6, 7 as “Your throne, O god.”)The NAB (St. Joseph ed.,1970) goes on to explain, however, that others have translated this verse as, “Your throne is the throne of God” and refers us to 1 Chron. 29:23 “where Solomon’s throne is referred to as the throne of the LORD [YHWH].”Now we’re getting closer to the most likely intention of Heb. 1:8. There is good evidence that the proper translation of Heb. 1:8 (as well as Ps. 45:6) should be “your throne is God forever” or “God is your throne forever.”For one thing, the definite article (“the”) is used in the NT Greek with “God” in this scripture. Not even John (who does, rarely, use theos for Jesus) uses theos with the definite article for anyone except the Only True God - the Father.

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>>364853790Thank you for your time and well thought out answers.

>>364852741Doing good works is useless if you don't have faith in christ, but if you have faith in Christ then you must do good worksI think it's simple to understand >>364852986I don't either, lol>>364853061Although Revelation contains symbolic numbers, some of the numbers it uses are literal. For example, it speaks of “the 12 names of the 12 apostles of the Lamb.” (Revelation 21:14) Consider the evidence for concluding that the number 144,000 should likewise be taken literally: Revelation 7:4 records “the number of those who were sealed [or, confirmed for life in heaven], 144,000.” In the immediate context of this verse, a second group is contrasted: “a great crowd, which no man was able to number.” Those of the “great crowd” also receive salvation from God. (Revelation 7:9, 10) If the number 144,000 were symbolic, referring instead to a group without number, then the contrast between the two groups would be lost. In addition, the 144,000 are described as being “bought from among mankind as firstfruits.” (Revelation 14:4) The expression “firstfruits” refers to a small representative selection. It aptly describes those who will rule in heaven with Christ over an undetermined number of subjects on earth.—Revelation 5:10.

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>>364836742Stop jewing that your not catholic, just answer my questions..1 - Do you understand that your church was and is inflitrated by satanists?2 - why is the holy Symbol the lord Jesus, dying on a cross, "defeated" by his enemies3 - why do they tell humans to eat his flesh and drink his blood in there Rituals?4 - why do preachers distract the attention much more about the rituals and "the how", than the actual meaning of Jesus words, "the message"?5 - is eating animals killing innocent beeings?

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>>364853129Because if there is a larger meaning to life, we want to know what it is and to understand our place in it. After all, if God exists and we are unaware of it, then we are living without knowing the most fundamental truth in the universe.>>364853399I'm not american :(>>364853448a lot>>364853766Yes I am !>>364854012No problem, it makes me happy to talk about God and his Holy Word

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>>364853790You're again just quoting other retarded ""bibles""" like the NIV. And again, doesn't make any sense to bring it up in Heb 1 because he is trying to prove Christ is divine and above the angels (and you literally believe he is Michael (or Gabriel))4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

>>364844413>144,000 people will be resurrected to heavenly lifeany kind of sentence like that were you say that only a set amount of people can go to heaven shows, that you don't know anything>oh sorry my son, heaven is full you can't get in anymore, good people had too many childrenthat's not how it works in any normal religion

>>364836742Why are you gay?

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>>364854406Exactly, ridiculous, there are things you can take word by word, but most of the messages in the Bible are a picture a description, you shall think about it and implement it in your timeline ..

>>364854067>If the number 144,000 were symbolic,It's not. It's 12,000 people from each tribe. Maybe actually read the passage>>364854378and you're only allowed to worship God (Rev 19:10) and yet Jesus always receives worship, but when someone trues worshipping the apostles the apostles stop them

>>364854406I feel like you did not read my whole post. The people in heaven will rule with Christ over mankind on earth, they will serve as priests and kings. They will rule over the majority of humans on paradise EARTH !>>364854378we have to understand what Paul meant here by worship. He used the Greek word pro·sky·neʹo. Unger’s Bible Dictionary says that this word literally means to ‘kiss the hand of someone in token of reverence or to do homage.’ An Expository Dictionary of New Testament Words, by W. E. Vine, says that this word “denotes an act of reverence, whether paid to man . . . or to God.” In Bible times pro·sky·neʹo often included literally bowing down before someone of high stature.

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>>364854067>>364854860What tribe are you from OP? If you're not then I guess you aren't allowed to go to heaven

>>364854803In the vision recorded at Revelation 14:1-3, the apostle John saw “the Lamb standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000.” In this vision, “the Lamb” represents the resurrected Jesus. (John 1:29; 1 Peter 1:19) “Mount Zion” represents the exalted position of Jesus and the 144,000 who rule with him in the heavens.—Psalm 2:6; Hebrews 12:22. Those “who are called and chosen” to rule with Christ in the Kingdom are referred to as a “little flock.” (Revelation 17:14; Luke 12:32) This shows that they would be relatively few in comparison with the complete number of Jesus’ sheep.—John 10:16.>>364855044Jehovah gave the earth to men and women. It is our home. Therefore, the first human couple, Adam and Eve, were not created to populate the heavens—God had already created angels to live in heaven. (Job 38:4, 7) Rather, God took the first man and settled him in a delightful paradise called the garden of Eden. (Genesis 2:15-17) Jehovah gave him and his future offspring the prospect of enjoying life without end on earth.—Read Psalm 37:29; 115:16.>>364854860Consider the parable Jesus gave of the slave who was unable to repay a substantial sum of money to his master. A form of this Greek word appears in this parable, and in translating it the King James Version says that “the servant therefore fell down, and worshipped [form of pro·sky·neʹo] him [the king], saying, Lord, have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.” (Matthew 18:26) Was this man committing an idolatrous act ? Not at all ! He was merely expressing the kind of reverence and respect due the king, his master and superior.

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>>364836742ravioli ravioli i wanna fuck that jewish loli

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>>364855403>Jehovah gave the earth to men and women. It is our home. >Therefore, the first human couple, Adam and Eve, were not created to populate the heavens—God had already created angels to live in heaven. (Job 38:4, 7) Rather, God took the first man and settled him in a delightful paradise called the garden of Eden. (Genesis 2:15-17) >Jehovah gave him and his future offspring the prospect of enjoying life without end on earth.—Read Psalm 37:29; 115:16.That literally says nothing. What tribe are you OP? If you're not then I guess you don't get to go to heavenThe King/Lord in the parable is supposed to represent God. When someone like Cornelius tries worshipping Peter, Peter picks him up

>>364856286>That literally says nothing?But it does. The Bible says that “God created the heavens and the earth.” (Genesis 1:1) He told the first human pair: “Be fruitful and become many, fill the earth and subdue it, and have in subjection . . . every living creature that is moving on the earth.” (Genesis 1:28) The only mention of death was in connection with disobedience. (Genesis 2:17) Thus, God meant for the earth to be the eternal home for mankind. It was to be filled with obedient humans who would care for it and live forever on it.>What tribe are you OP? If you're not then I guess you don't get to go to heavenWell yeah, I've said in my previous post that I won't go to heaven>The King/Lord in the parable is supposed to represent God. When someone like Cornelius tries worshipping Peter, Peter picks him upSuch acts of obeisance, or expressions of respect, were fairly common in the Orient of Bible times. Jacob bowed down seven times upon meeting his brother, Esau. (Genesis 33:3) Joseph’s brothers prostrated themselves, or did obeisance, before him in honor of his position at the Egyptian court. (Genesis 42:6) In this light we can better understand what happened when the astrologers found the young child Jesus, whom they recognized as “the one born king of the Jews.” As rendered in the King James Version, the account tells us that they “fell down, and worshipped [pro·sky·neʹo] him.”—Matthew 2:2, 11.

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>>364855403Fruit and vegetables to EAT..Animals to PLAY with..You shall not kill includes animals, are ya safe?

>>364856756Is is debt and debtors or trespass and trespassers?

>>364836742who or what are the nephilim?

>>364836742Will you like hiding in the wilderness like King David?

>>364836742what’s your take on some of the archaic laws and other content written in books like Leviticus and Deuteronomy? the kind of things most people would just question, why is this even in here? especially if it seems like it shouldn’t apply to today

>>364836742>Jehova witness goes digital>Tries to convert pol/What could possibly go wrong

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>>364856959Debts is referring to sins. When sinning against someone, a person incurs a debt to that one, or has an obligation to him, and must therefore seek his forgiveness. Receiving God’s forgiveness depends on whether the person has forgiven his personal debtors, that is, those who have sinned against him.—Mt 6:14, 15; 18:35; Lu 11:4.>>364856879After the Flood, Jehovah told humans that they may kill animals for food. “Every moving animal that is alive may serve as food for you,” says Genesis 9:3.Most probably, I think that once paradise earth arrives, we won't be eating animals anymore, just like at the beginning. >>364857040jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/nephilim-giants/>>364857399why not

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>>364857571Thoughts on the jew?

>>364857411These laws were only for ancient Israel. They were for a specific people at a specific time. With Jesus having fulfilled the Law, the Old Testament has since been replaced with the New Testament, which is universal.>>364857638none in particular

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>>364857040Helicopters, described by a stoneager on a magic-mushroom-loophole

do you think this is good counsel given by Watchtower in 1974:"Reports are heard of brothers selling their homes and property and planning to finish out the rest of their days in this old system in the pioneer service. Certainly this is a fine way to spend the short time remaining before the wicked world’s end."source: wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/201974163#h=11

>>364837398I can't imagine studying something for 28 years and still not understanding it.

>>364858248It's their own personal decision if they want to do thisI believe that there is no better activity than to dedicate their lives to preach the Good News far and wide out of self-sacrificing love for our neighbors !We want to save lives and bring people closer to God so that they can be happy as well !

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>>364844894>Succubus in trainingYou want the intern?

>>364858584>personal decision blah blahdo not pretend you do not know this was related to Watchtower false prediction for 1975 armageddon

>>364836742The New Testament gospel is greek slashfiction from the degenerate era of mystery cults in rome. It is compiled as a litany of crimes of the Jewish people and as an ironic twist features a prophetical Jewish messiah as the opposition to Jews in general. It is made to draw a strong difference between how Jews and Gentiles understand morality as well as make fun of the idea of a single God, Jewish style miracle worship, the inanity of their financial understandings, their misbegotten ideas of charity, their narcissism and their crooked parables. The amount of seething that it created in those early days is proof that it is correct. Even if christ didn’t exist, even if christ was born of a whore. That’s the point, Christ yet remains king, the Jews pulled every stop to make a religion of, and subvert christianity and they still hate it. Blows my mind, the Christians may be absolute retards about 90% of things. But that’s because their religion is Jewish damage control surrounding an well studied, and intensely Jewish antisemitic writing. Gosh I have so much respect for the gospel writers, and so little respect for the apostles.

>>364836742Is salvation moral or ontological?

>>364855403>JW.ORG nonsense about 144000Can you explain why do you consider 12000 in Revelation 7:5-8 to be a symbolic number while 144000 in Rev. 7:4 you consider a literal one?

>>364836928He shits this board up on occasion too

>>364836742Celestial allegory? Or esoteric scientific knowledge?

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>>364836742Jesus wasn't even a real person, dum dum>pic related

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