/got/ GENERAL

/got/ general -
A tale of Two Sansas edition

Previously - on /got/-


June 12: “No One”: Tyrion (Peter Dinklage) finds cause for concern. Cersei (Lena Headey) prepares for the worst. Sansa (Sophie Tuner) takes control. Arya (Maisie Williams) is not alone. Written by David Benioff and D.B. Weiss; directed by Mark Mylod.

June 19: “Battle of the Bastards”: Ramsay (Iwan Rheon) surprises his audience. Jon (Kit Harington) retaliates. Dany (Emilia Clarke) is true to her word. Written by David Benioff and D.B. Weiss; directed by Miguel Sapochnik.

June 26: “The Winds of Winter”: A queen comes forth. Euron (Pilou Asbæk) reveals himself. Brienne (Gwendoline Christie) meets a friend turned foe. King’s Landing awaits justice. The Night’s Watch gathers. Written by David Benioff and D.B. Weiss; directed by Miguel Sapochnik.

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first for Queen Dany

Second for MOPHIE

This version is better.

Rightful king coming through.

her eyes are pretty mary sue without violet contacts tho

June 19: “Battle of the Bastards”: Ramsay (Iwan Rheon) surprises his audience. Jon (Kit Harington) retaliates. Dany (Emilia Clarke) is true to her word. Written by David Benioff and D.B. Weiss; directed by Miguel Sapochnik.

Ramsay surprises -
Wildlings by Oshas naked flayed body
Davos by Stannis flayed body
Jon by letting Rickon go, then shooting arrow into him

Jon is angry at dead Rickon, retaliates by attacking instead of waiting which Sansa told him to do, thus losing almost his entire army

Dany return to Meereen, and stays true to her people by killing all evil white men slavers. All chant Khaleesi. Episode ends.

Will it really be another Dany finale ending?

Of course!

daily reminder that GRRM is a shit writer and a shit person

angrygotfan.com/2016/05/29/the-winds-of-winter-the-damphair-part-1/

Is he gonna be okay, guys?

doesn't matter, the ironborn won't have any role in the endgame other than Victarion bringing Dany a navy

nice double dubs
AYY LMAO
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You sure about that?

yes

Wonderful eyebrows

I don't think any of the maisiecucks are Americans tbh

The Best of Live Threads for Episode 6 is here!

Are my eyes getting even worse or can anyone else not read shit?

Open it in another tab, because it's bigger than Dany's dragon

dl it then zoom in

Didn't even notice the resolution, thanks. I'm not blind yet

so he won't be killing anyone?

is there a board or thread for GoT nudes?

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No, the synopsis writers think that we don't expect that he will parade Rickon before the other Northern lords and shoot him to death.

Right here

jk, D&D's idea of surprise is a comically evil character doing comically evil shit
muh gurl power
but will they there be ebin uplifting soundtack and dragon noises when the credits roll in?

yeah, Ramsay killing and flaying people will be a real shocker

Can't wait until we get the full clip of the Mad King.

I'm going to splice it with footage of Dany's stupid crazy speeches this season and her burning innocent people alive and feeding them to her dragons with the uplifting Mhysa music that plays.

Then I'll end it with THIS IS WHAT HBO WANTS YOU TO ROOT FOR - DADDY'S LITTLE GIRL

Just in case showfags still don't get it. I am that triggered.

r/asoiafr34

kill yourself

Hey, nobody is forcing you to root for her. There are lots of other characters still left in the show.

But answer me this: Why is Meera so dedicated towards Bran? So far she lost her beloved brother because of him, also she witnessed Hodor's gruesome fate, also caused by Bran, not to mention the death of the forest ayys and Max von Sydow, also caused by Bran. Is she so dedicated to the agenda of her brother? Or she is so willing to risk everything, because somewhere some prophecy told about someone who could be Bran? Or I'm missing out on something here?

Rape him to death, Ramsay.

Well, you have to understand the culture she grew up in.

When Jojen told Howland that Ned died, Howland wept because he knew it was true. He nurtured his son's gift of greensight, and presumably told his daughter to guide his son, and that these prophecies and dreams were no laughing matter.

Then Bloodraven and the Children presumably have told her that Bran is the key to ending the Long Night. Additionally, the context is slightly different in the books; Meera does love Bran as something of a little brother and doesn't blame him, because he's a little child. But she is also slightly scared of him and resentful; she all but runs out of the room when it's implied Bran tries to enter her.

am i interpreting this wrong?

No, I left that in there because it reads like a rape allegory. He tries to enter her mind - albeit accidentally because he likes her - and she doesn't want it.

Wow, if Bran keeps it up he might just grow into a man.

>implying she doesn't secretly want it

Is she a lesbyte or what?
I've deducted that he is the father of Jojen and Meera, but otherwise I had no idea
Is that Old Man Max?

Because you probably asleep when this is posted.


I am not the guy you are talking to and I have not been posting on Holla Forums for months. But I decided to make one post to you because I cannot hold it any longer.

YOU ARE A CANCER. YOU ARE A RETARD. YOU ARE AN OBSESSIVE PEDOPHILE WHO CANNOT TAKE CRITICISM, UNDERSTAND CRITICISM. MUCH LESS GIVE CRITICISM.

You may have formal education in the area of fiction, you may have an occupation as a tv reviewer, but you are too stupid to understand the mistakes, inconsistency, poor or lack of judgment an artist had made or did not made. Your defense of your masturbatory fantasy' acting skills is laughably clueless and not going to convince any adult with a critical eye. The levels of your criticism is a reflection of why your professions has lost their value in society. You are a perfect example of the idiots who worked for Kotaku and io9 or just a random fangirl commenter in the internet. You can sprout the literary and artistic theory but you can do that simply because of your education and here is your problem: GOOD critics and artists came up with their own theory of what made an art work great or terrible, they did not rely on their textbook or what other thinkers had said, they use their brain more. (Well your brain is shit anyway so using it won't help).

Allow me to be of-topic for one paragraph The level of intelligence in your posting are very similar to David S. Goyer and by explaining him, I hope to enlighten you.

Goyer with his connections, his writing skills and luck was able to get the position as the main writer for the DC Cinematic Universe. In an interview, he gave the opinion that HULK-GIRL is a porn star and the MARTIAN MANHUNTER is a goofy, terrible superhero. When the audience refuted these notions, he mocked their intelligence by imply that they lacked sexual experience. Goyer also gave an opinion on how the Manhunter could be better by changing the character backstory. Then he proceed excitingly to tell the audience how much better the backstory he came up with. (It was the same backstory a hundred hacks in the movie industry had written before). Here is the conclusion: Goyer believed his ideas are intelligent, he believe the source material is stupid, he think that the audience who enjoy them are not very smart so he did not took their opinion to heart. When BvS failed their potential at the box office and damaged the entire prospect of the DC Cinematic Universe, it was too late. While BvS had plenty of interesting ideas (a common defense), it did not explore any of them and only give shallow and stupid answers. Goyer disregard the opinions of what make people drawn to the characters he was adapting and expected people to praise his "original" work. It backfire on him and all of his employers.

Now you. You did not like the source material, which is fine. You failed to see their virtues because you are too bothered with what you believed is its flaws, still fine. Now most of Holla Forums can see the flaws in the tv series. They gave their opinion of why it was flawed, you defended it with saying, nope it is them that is clueless not the producer. When they gave an examples on how it could better based on what already been done in the books, you countered that the books is already shit and the bookfags are simply fanboys who can see no wrong in the works of the old fat man. Like Goyer, you have a grandiose view of your intelligence thinking that other poster is not as smart as you are. To make matter, you keep on replying to other post, sprouting your retarded view without once gave a non-shallow defense. I have seen people in this board or in this thread with unpopolar opinion and is able to convert others by giving excellent reasons for their opinions. Or at least provoke an interesting debate. You on the other hand gave none. For all your education and your professions, you never any good reasons at all. You existed like a troll with wax in his little ears.

I wish you luck that the next time you went to sleep, may you never be awaken again.

Yes, he's their father. He sends them to Bran specifically once Jojen tells him of his greendream of Ned dying. This man has been to the Isle of Faces and spoken to the Children of the Forest there about the world. He likely knows everything.

It is also all but stated he has told them some very important secret about Lyanna/Ned.

I've read that already in the previous thread and
1. I am not that guy who is the critic
2. It has 0 relation to what I've asked here.
So you are threading on the wrong path, m8

How do I know? Only one of you is not Tripfagging anymore and it happened to be the one I have no ill feeling against. Anyway, while you may not be a retard, you are still a cancer and an obsessive pedophile. Good Bye.

She is 19, and in my country, 16 is legal, and 14 year olds are already fucking. That's a fact, not an excuse. I just want to know, why am I a pedophile, for finding a girl attractive who is
1. Considered ugly by everyone else
2. Is legal in every country
And if we go that way, then the Patrick Stewart poster is a homosexual gerontophile and the Anonymoose is a beastiality lover. They are not "cancer"?

For Heaven's sake, I was even ontopic itt…

I'm definitely straight for Iain Glen.

Look, I am not going to derail this thread or your discussion any further. I think that you (Gifmaker I assume) is kinda nice. ( am honest in this statement. But your infatuation with this ugly terrible actress and your constant posting of her is a cancer to this board. And I call you a pedophile is because while she is 19, all of you maisiefags keep posting her images when she was much younger, in some places where I do not think that appropiate for grown men to see. The world is large, do not be so obsessed with one soon-to-be-forgotten actress and good luck being on-topic.

Thank you for the kind words, but
We are on a chan. We are on the website that hosts waifuist, hebe and cuteboys. What kind of a mentality is this? If seeing pictures of girls under 18 bothers you, why are you on an imageboard anyway?

But he is handsome, Sir Phantasm, there's nothing wrong with finding him hot

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The answer to your questions is this:
It did not bother me one bit, and I brought that up so that you understand why I labeled you and the other cancer as obsessive pedophiles.

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Hello :) Guess who I got in the character quiz?

Ep6 #LIVE: Moose edition

(Me)
Forgot to turn spoiler image off

Is the chapter any good?

just one more reason to add to my list

I thought the new leaders got rid of /hebe/ or something

On topic for a second, I find it funny that she's transcended art. Like, in the books she's this legend that may or may not be real; people don't know if she's really Cat, people don't know if she's just Beric's wife, or if she's another outlaw.

This mirrors 1:1 her inclusion in the show, when you think about it. She's this constant legend that we make shoops about, she might be replaced by Thoros or Beric in the show, or she might never even exist!

Isn't that hilarious? Life imitates art, lel.

Hi there! I bet you cheated


Okay then. The thing I don't get is, why is it important to call us pedophiles, while the topic was about something else twice?

Did she make an appearance on the show or something? I don't understand what you just said. What is hilarious? What is life imitate art?

I've heared a rumour that they will nuke waifuist.

No, she hasn't, but all the pieces for her to be there keep coming up. They keep referencing her, she keeps being this legend. Just like in the books.

Isn't that some meta-textual funniness? Maybe I'm just a sperg.

Post yfw The Faith Militant's champion will be Lady Stone Stark

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These two posts are only further evidence that what you consider "acting" is actually some bizzare combination of your sympathies and expactations of the character they're portraying and your personal feelings toward the actor
None of these have anything to do with Maisie and don't qualify as acting criticism. Your only argument is "she's only making the same face since S1" and that's obviously false. Arya went through rather distinctive phases in S1 (Winterfell, training with Syrio), S2 (travelling with Yoren, interactions with Gendry, being Tywin's cupbearer), later with the Hound, oyster seller etc., all with their corresponding and varied expressions. It's ironic how you mentioned Iain, because his performance has been far more monotonous (relying heavily on Khaleesi pls face) and Maisie showed wider range, as far their work in GoT is concerned. Iain's acting is still absolutely fitting and good for the role, because that's how the character is written in GoT script. That's the aspect you haven't realized yet, you judge the actor based on how you like the character.

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The long post is directed toward the critic, his poor skills of taking or understanding criticism and tendency to destroy reasonable debates.

If you are bothered by being called a pedophile please leave Holla Forums and never came back.

You being a pedophile is not an importance. You being cancer is. And you already heard that words many times and it will not going to change your mind, habit and nature.

Do you have siblings, Sir Phantasm?

Haha, only in one obvious question (the spirit animal), I'd have chosen the platypus :) Otherwise they were honest answers, Arya is the same personality type as me ISTP so that's third time out of four different GoT personality tests I got her.
Is she okay?

Isn't there only one god of the seven but the uneducated masses don't understand that the seven aspects are of one god?

Y-yes a sister and brother I'm close with

mods ehlp


It's 1 but 7 depending on the context. Often when they need to show a personification of an aspect of the faith, characters will split them up in the mind.

However, note that Aeron does not follow the Seven, and therefore would not know much about them. He probably literally thinks they're 7 gods, and thus the hallucination is tailored to his mind.

I know, because I read it
1. You are the one who is bothered by people posting pictures of a girl under 18 years old ON A BLOODY IMAGEBOARD.
2. You didn't say pretty please.
3. Who are you to say who stays here and who must go? Why do you think you have power over me?
4. "You being cancer is." So far as I see "cancer" means "something I don't like". More precisely "something someone likes but I hate and it infuriates me that they dare to like it". My only question here is: Why do you feel a need to tell others what to do at a place where you are just as common folk as anyone else?

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Guys, is the new released chapter any good? I asked Sir Phantasmagoric but he didn't reply.

no, just further proof that Euron molested Damfair

UUUU
There is one more but I can"'t find it

what the fuck is going on in this thread?

But that's pedophilia! It's inappropriate!

*likely high on weed ravenous fat asshole

that is the ugliest bitch I've ever seen

the one on the left isn't much better either

Sorry, didn't see it.

It's…very messed up. It's like the Reek chapter in ADWD, only poor Aeron dies, presumably.

It also seems to confirm Euron will marry Dany.

That was already implied strongly in AFFC I think
Or something. Nothing else?

Wow, this much Butthurt. I guess I struck a nerve there. Cancer is something that when allowed to grow will be a huge ugly sight and terrible disease. Maisieposting is one of them.

Why do you feel a need to tell me to stop?

yeah, but this is ASOIAF, so we need to be beaten over the head with it in at least five chapters

choose one and only one

Did I tell you to stop? Where?

Oh wait, I get it now… Because we post Maisie's pics of when she was udnerage, you are afraid that other people come here and also post underage girls and we turn into waifuist. Well, that's a real danger, but our intention is not that. We just want to Maisie around

Wonderful :) Her hair doesn't seem blue much there
No Twitter account, unfortunately. Sometimes I visit the Russian facebook-type thing dedicated to Maisie pics…

Yeah, those are the same guys. I don't know where or how, but they have aquire all the rares

Wait, so it's
Another bravo GRRM?

pretty much

Yeah, it's a mixture of Dany's House of the Undying chapter and Reek I in ADWD.

So anons, what Chaos God would Maisie serve in 40k?

Nope. You still don't get it. I am not bothered by pictures of clothed underage girls. However, the amounts of Maisie pictures is a big ugly sight that had deterred many other users to this thread. Maisie Williams is a part of GOT and will always be around. What I wish gone is the absurdly large amounts of her images. You knew what else is cancer. our discussion and I can acknowledge that it is a disgusting sight and should either be stop or removed.

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*deterred others from this thread

Well…

But that was an excellent chapter, I might give the new bit a try later tonight. Is it a problem I haven't read the other preview TWOW chapters?

Slaanesh or Khorne

They hake 10 other threads on the day of the new episode and guess what, they either die or turn into a pol outpost. Is that better? I don't mind them not being here…

Nah, though I wonder just how big tWoW will be if we've already gotten


Chapters already

Although if we consider her real life personality and not Arya, she seems quite chaotic.

we've gotten 11 chapters in total. Dance was 72, so we've probably already gotten about 1/7 of Winds, and the plot has barely moved forward at all

this series will never reach a conclusion, even if GRRM lives to be 120

What is the point of releasing chapters before the book is done? Will be make 70 chapters and release only 69 and then you have to buy the book to know the end which will disappoint everyone?

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the days after an episode was aired
there were about three or four different living threads discussing different aspects of the show including the general ranging from 20+ to 200+ replies
,…………….

(Checked)
Trips confirm Chaos and Blood

pirate wizard and Daenerys forcing Tyrion and Penny to fuck.

Poor Aeron had to see it first.

Never understood this as well, that's why I didn't read the TWOW preview bits. You basically know nothing major will happen there if it's a preview, and it will only ruin the experience of a whole new book.

Books are better than any other entertainment. I'm a huge book collector

Is Maisie checking her prostate?

No, it's the "a GRRM book in my hand" face

wew lad

desperation. GRRM wants people to think he's making progress

I've tried that, and it usually cost more than buying the actual book

you might wanna re-take Biology 101

You should send some book tips to Maisie's Twitter, she said she wants to start reading more in 2016 in her NYE youtube channel video. Do you think she read one book since then?

does the latest issue of Cosmo count as a book?

Do we know what kind of books she is interested in?

At least the book would have some value :(

Haha

Wow guys, Sam's dad is such a biggot for wanting to kill all the muslims wildlings who dindu nuffin !
Open the gates !

See →
And porn magazines

It's current year user, that's such a misogynist attitude to have! :^)

To be fair though, he was quite an asshole towards Sam.

Wildlings Welcome?

Those are not my cup of tea, so I can't recommend anything like them

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Randyll is a good guy who loves his wife. His other two kids are fine. The problem is that Sam liked eating too much and couldn't scare up a nerve.

Randyll's a hardass because that's his job. The Reach is full of poncy faggots, and the Tarly's are expected to be the fighters who protect the crops and gaylords.

Whilst that would be horribly hilarious, the dwarves are a metaphor for Westeros' political state.

We see this imagery of the House of the Undying, as the dwarves in the vision fuck and claw and rip at the beautiful women (Westeros); this is a metaphor for the War of the Five Kings, as there are five dwarves.

So what this vision likely means is that Euron will marry a woman (probably Dany) and be King, and that this union will bring about further high lords destroying each other but also 'fucking each other' (nepotism and corruption) to please the King/Queen whilst they laugh and enjoy their position of conquest.

Westeros will be driven into the ground whilst the only people capable of saving it Jon Snow's crew battle hopelessly to restore it from the Others.

Also, it's not like he hates Dickon; they seem to get along well, enjoying each other's company as father and son.

He just has medium expectations, and Sam could never live up to them. Sad, really.

So you admit you drive people away from /GOT/. GoT is a mass event, guaranteed to have many responses unlike the ones that died. But you were very successful in driving many them away and wondered why some people are not willing to raise a topic discussion and others hated your kind so much. Anyway, I already what I have to say. I just have to accept that you have the rights to post here and prefer to read and respond to the people who posted on-topic discussion.


Give Gurm some credit. He's not making such obvious metaphor, is he?

Just don't tell them I am here and they will flock here
On a personal note, be careful, because you are missing out words from your sentences!

That's true, but one would expect him to come to terms with how Sam turned out already. He was disinherited, showed no intention to come back to Horn Hill permanently, and was on his way to become NW's maester, a position reasonably respectable on its own - the best Sam could have achieved with his personality. What was the point of making such a scene over a dinner? None, just Randyll being butthurt and refusing to accept something he can't change.

They are not that dumb. However, Williams being dead would certainly do that.

MY GOD SHE IS UGLY

That's the only explanation I can think of as to why there are five dwarves in The House of the Undying in the midst of the War of the Five Kings.

Whilst it's a simple metaphor, it's cool that he's carried it over from book 2.


Because D and D need you to hate the evil old white patriarch, even though it's more complex than that.

That's not what I was talking about at all, I liked the way Randyll was portrayed and was written well for the role he was supposed to fill in the scene. The point was that within show's context, Tarly senior hardly dindu nuffin, like two previous replies stated. He's a hard and respectable man, but obviously a sh*tty father to Sam.

This is 100% true. And being a soldier he should not fault Sam for doing what he was ordered to do (be a maester).

I honestly thought Sam's biggest problem would be his hardnosed father pointing out he violated his vows by fucking a woman.

What the explanation is for a character behaving so illogically (aside from shit writing) is beyond me.

My guess is GRRM's longshoreman father wasn't too thrilled with his fat hippie son's writing career.

Yeah that's the nuance of the thing. He's a mixed father, good to one kid, bad to the other.

It makes it realistic. He's not evil, he's…grey.

It's similar to Tywin.

That scene is not in the book.

Randyll does make an appearance, but it is to adjudicate smallfolk in the Riverlands. He's pretty good at it, and rightfully tells Brienne to go home or something terrible will happen to her.

The Sam dinner scene is 100% show OC.

It hasn't happened >yet< in the books. I think Sam and his father will meet again.

The scenes of Sam fearfully telling Jon he can't be a maester are in the books. Randyll chained him in the dungeon when he said he wanted to be a maester.

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>It hasn't happened >yet< in the books. I think Sam and his father will meet again.
So do I, but in the context of battle.

This was before he disowned him, and it's also old-fashioned ideas of getting rid of fear/effeminacy. In Randyll's mind, he was trying to save his son, as horrible as that sounds.

We absolutely cannot have that in the TV series. How could a strong woman like Brienne, a role model for the feminism, able to stand such mansplaining? When you said rightfully. are you saying that oppressive medieval torture is justified? Are you saying that the Randyll Tarly a father who rejected his son, threatened to kill his son for the honor of his family had any redeeming feature?

I agree. I think GRRM was exaggerating his father's own efforts to make him more manly.

Only idiots think he did anything wrong. He was going to take in a wildling woman and her son that had no connection to him, why?
Probably because it was the right thing to do and he couldn't turn her away. But, y'know, its D&D so all male authority figures are inherently evil and sexist unless they're otherwise emasculated.

It's actually pretty funny, because you get the impression that whilst Randyll is a hard-ass, he was being uncharacteristically kind (at least for him). He pretty much is all

>Several chapters later she's had half her face chewed off and is facing death by noose the latter ironically from a women

Like the show, we're supposed to root for Briene, sure, but it has way more nuance than D and D's portrayal of the character, where there is the notion that straying outside your gender confines has a cost that might not be worth it in the end. This is again echoed when another character in her retinue offers to genuinely propose to her so they can have a decent shot at a happy life, but she turns him down, despite a small part of her wanting to be a mother.

As you can see, I am not a fan at all of show Brienne. They take all of this nuance in the character and turn her into the opposite of what she actually is in the source material.

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She's a qt


This, it's painfully obvious Randyll is supposed to be his own "abusive" father who never appreciated his effeminate son's "scholarly" pursuits.


If they ever have a Brienne-Randyll meeting in the show, and he told her to go home, lest she end up getting raped, they'd probably have some scene where they reveal she's somehow killed more men in battle then he has or some shit.

Randyll is undoubtedly great military commander (even Stannis acknowledges this in S5), presumably a good lord and a good father to Dickon. All I was saying >>354604 is that he's a bad father to Sam, nothing else. The only reason to sperg out and bully him in front of everyone is to ventilate his own frustration, Sam's course was already set. Not exactly fatherly behaviour.

>Sam couldn't swallow his pride and tell Gilly to come up with a decent cover story
He did, Gilly revealing her origin was her own initiative.

It depends how relevant she is to the books, I don't think they'll do it because all this Riverlands stuff has to be wrapped up not unwrapped.

Show Brienne is the worst character in the show. Yeah, I said it. She's worse then the Sneks.

Why? Because the Sneks were never good to begin with, they weren't as bad as in the show, sure, but they still kinda sucked. Book Brienne was actually a really good character. She was actually a genuinely honorable, sweet, and benevolent person for one, and her journey was one of growth and development.

Show Brienne on the other hand only exists so she can kill problematic sexist men and grunt a lot, and boast about executing unarmed, injured men in cold blood.

What are the chances he's too sensitive and just experienced some assertive behavior like almost everyone else?

lel

Show Brienne is meant to be justified in killing Stannis but wasn't it Renly who started all the shit by trying to usurp Stannis as King?

They handled religions terribly too. In the Damphair chapter, while we get the impression that this guy is insane, he was able to unite a people and avoid a civil war. In Brienne chapters, we saw that the religions of R'hllor gave hope and spirit to a long-suffering people and we saw the septons of the seven feeds and heals anyone they could. These are the aspects of religions that always been benefited to humanity. But Dumb and Dumber only see extremists, homophobia and politicians,

Brienne in the books is annoying but

This is why she is much better in the books, she is not just a warrior, she is a naive youth who started to experienced life and self-understanding. But in the show, she always been right so what's there to explore.

I agree completely, and textually, the exploration of her wanting to enter the confines of her gender roles deep down inside, but being unable to due to the hand nature dealt her is compelling and moving. I unironically think it's one of the most nicely done themes/arcs in ASOIAF. It's a nice subversion of the stronk womyn archetype, because Brienne is still a woman deep down; she's gentle and kind, and even nurturing (to her own surprise).

Note the difference in the way show Brienne and book Brienne handle Pod. Book Brienne is a bit exasperated by him, but she still takes him under her wing and nurtures him like a son or younger brother. Show Brienne seems to spend half her time yelling at him.

This is the woman who viscerally has a reaction to her first kill, even though the man tried to rape her.

Just like Stannis was an usurper himself, for all he could have proved with hard evidence.

According to D&D, Renly actions is justified because he did this to prevent people suffering from Stannis misrule.

I want to add that I firmly, firmly believe that if Brienne were to have to choose between going to protect Sansa, or killing Stannis, she would choose Sansa EVERY TIME.

Whilst I love Stannis, Stannisfags really ignore the character assassination of Brienne in that scene. If Brienne would rather kill Stannis 'than help the man who would save the daughter of the woman she is sworn to by OATH then I fully condemn GRRM's writing for inconsistent characterisation. But she wouldn't.

And what about Gilly herself? She is not a killer, she is not a cannibal, and she is cute. So just because she was born northern from the Wall, she is considered a villian?

All people that far South know is that they are killers and rapists and etc.

Do you expect Randyll to be the saint exception in his entire ethnicity?

Do you wanted Stannis, one of the most monstrous character in the shows and books to be killed by Ramsay another monster?
No, it had to be Brienne, one of the morally best character to do it. It is a deserved justice for Renly, the very nice and thoughtful king who prepared to sacrifice the lives of ten of thousands of families to protect them from his terrible brother.
If you consider that Brienne actions as character-assassination, then you are wrong, the characters is always grey, this is just another dimension we added to it.

No, but we viewers know that he is unjust in this case

I'm fine with that route, I can make peace with that if it weren't for the fact that nothing bad comes of it; she still finds Sansa anyways and doesn't pay for her decision. She gets to have her cake and eat it too, which is some bullshit right there.

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With such a strong female character, what is there to gain by making her pay for her unyielding honor in keeping her oath? No, stop mansplaining. Enough already. Brienne character is fine.

Man, if this show was given to a better showrunners, far greater things would be done. HBO should have given it to the guys who did Rome, instead GRRM gave a couple of simple minded jews.

God Damn, reaction videos always piss me off. What's wrong with me? Why do I always watch this shit each week and piss myself off?


Is that what most people usually do when confronted by a character they dislike? Because I just sit back and drink whenever Dany is onscreen, but hey, maybe I'm just a sociopath for that.

The more important question is, why do you embed horseshit like that here?

You're a masochist. I can be your sadist, babe

Still better then Burlington Bar or whatever it's called

YAAAAS

SNAPS FINGERS

Are you ready for RADMURE /got/?

Sansa meeting the Glovers? Hope they don't fuck this Northern house up too.

Is that the baseball team of King's Landing?

No, the North. They're 0 and 1. Manager's head is on a wolf.

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How many pushups can you do, /got/?

facebook.com/healthbath/posts/1001999816520520

The only pushups Emilia can do are the ones her breasts are doing in that photo.

Those noises
Why is she so fit?

she can also push donuts up to her fat face

Such a cute little piggie.

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Saw Maisie in Bristol. Bitch likes her MDMA

I ENVY YOU VERY MUCH!
What is a MDMA?
You're an Englishman or a person from abroad living there?

Ecstasy.

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britbong candy

almost one

I'm sure you can do one whole, user, just like me!

how do I get a seat?

You have to become an easily identifiable pest whom others call cancer. Fastest way is either by tripfagging and/or avatarfagging, but I can also suggest recurring themes, like the Moose guy or the Spankanon

if we're talking about your mom, I can do all holes

My mom is actually pretty

she won't be when I'm done with her

I'm gonna take that with a grain of salt

Luckily you are really far away from her

Is Emilia Clarke watching? Can I see up her skirt? ∞ amount. Nobody around? Around fifty. Maize in my presence? I refuse to do any.

Just because I find a hobgoblin pretty, that doesn't mean I find only her and only girls like her pretty

Do they look similar to Maisie?

I think the quality of /got/ threads have declined along with the writing of the show. Now that we're in full OC mode these threads have been really shitty.

Oh come on, you just love bashing every tiny detail that's different from the books

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>mfw people think Renly had any justification for any of the shit he did
>"oh but Robert rebelled, that's totally the same thing, right?"
I wish I could rip your fucking throat out with my bare teeth.

It's not like there's anything to talk about.
Maisiefags will blindly defend the show because of their waifu and the rest of us put up with them consuming 60% of the thread with shit pulled from an actresses' fucking Instagram.
At the end of the day, nobody's happy.

just like real life

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Unlike in real life, it's much easier to simply ignore Maisieposts, as well, due to their inherent worthlessness.
I don't even have to pretend like I care about what they say.

what's this then?

Don't talk to it, it'll just drag you down to its level.
Treat it like you would a leper.

Renly had a lot of confidence in himself then, that's meant to be a positive?

I expect Ramsay to make his skin into a puppet and make a puppet show out of Rickon and the corpse of shaggydog.

Because Ramsay is such a humorous prankster.

But I'm a human being, user!

Renly was full of himself and nobody mattered to him but Renly.
It takes a real piece of shit to know your brother's been cucked, and rather than tell him, you scheme to put your allies' daughter in his bed so you can use that to slide into a better position of power.
Fuck Renly.
Fuck. Renly.

He's such a humorous prankster, he's on the wrong show!

That joker.

And this can't be said about Stannis, huh?

>L8R BRO

I don't pay attention to silly showfags.
Come talk to me when you have something of depth to discuss. I refuse to talk about the mess D&D made of the Baratheon family. They couldn't have misunderstood Stannis any harder if they tried.

Stannis is Donald Trump

A shit ruler worshiped by retards

Renly is Obama

A fantastic leader who's benevolence is ruined thanks to Stannis/Trump.

>murdering the brother whom has expressed his desire to kill you and your daughter
Get fucked, asshole. Either Renly dies when he charges Stannis or Melisandre takes him out.
The latter option netted him an entire army while the former would've decimated him even if he had won.
Fuck off, faggot. Don't try me again.

This thread is about the show, on a board that's about tv-shows
And in the show, I repeat: IN THE SHOW, he did that, so who cares what's in Holy George's tomes?

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That means murdering your own sibling is okay? Also by saying strong words, you don't sound any more believable

That's what I don't understand:

it's basically sunken cost fallacy

when you've spent 15+ years on a series, it's hard to give up even if you've grown to hate it

ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID?

WHAT DOES IT MATTER IF STANNIS KILLED HIM WITH A SWORD OR A SHADOW? RENLY WAS GOING TO DIE. MELISANDRE SAW RENLY DYING. RENLY WAS FUCKED, 100%, NO WAY AROUND IT, HE WAS NOT GOING TO LEAVE STORM'S END.
MELISANDRE TOLD STANNIS "YOUR BROTHER IS GOING TO DIE", AND THEN STANNIS SAID "DO WHAT YOU GOTTA DO".
STANNIS DIDN'T EVEN FUCKING KNOW WHAT MELISANDRE WAS GOING TO DO. FIRE MAGIC? SHADOWS? WHO GIVES A FUCK AT THE END OF THE DAY. HE EXPLICITLY MENTIONS WATCHING RENLY DIE AND HOW HORRIBLE HE FEELS, AND YET HIS HANDS ARE CLEAN ANYWAY.

FUCK YOU, FAGGOT.
THINK ABOUT THE SHIT YOU FUCKING READ BEFORE YOU GO SPOUTING OFF STUPID BULLSHIT
THINK ABOUT THE RAMIFICATIONS OF YOUR STUPID FUCKING POST, NIGGER

Nicely put, thank you

GOD FUCKING DAMN IS SELF DEFENSE TOO MUCH OF AN INTELLECTUAL CONCEPT FOR YOU FUCKING IDIOTS TO WRAP YOUR HEADS AROUND?
CAN YOU SIT HERE AND SAY YOU WOULDN'T HAVE DONE EXACTLY WHAT STANNIS DID IN THAT SITUATION? WOULD YOU HAVE RODE OFF TO FIGHT AN ARMY TEN TIMES YOUR SIZE?
IF YOU SAID YES, THEN KILL YOURSELF, BECAUSE YOU'RE A FUCKING DIPSHIT

You think I remember all these tiny details about characters that already died, which are happened like 4 years ago?
And you guys call me an autist? Just look at his post, he is so angry

WHY DO I EVEN HAVE TO EXPLAIN THIS SIMPLE SHIT TO YOU IDIOTS?
YOU DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO ANYTHING AND THEN YOU COME HERE AND GET OFFENDED WHEN OTHER PEOPLE CALL YOU OUT ON HOW FUCKING UNINFORMED AND IGNORANT YOU ARE==
''THAT IS NOT SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF, YOU FUCKING CUNT.

WALLOW IN YOUR OWN SHIT AND IGNORANCE YOU FUCKING PLEBS
I HOPE YOU ENJOY BEING RETARDED BECAUSE YOU'RE NEVER GONNA STOP IF YOU KEEP THIS SHIT UP

THIS THREAD NEEDS MORE ALL-CAPS REDTEXT!!!

YOU'RE THE REASON D&D'S GOTTEN AWAY WITH THE RIDICULOUS SIMPLIFICATION OF THE POLITICS AND BATTLES IN THIS SERIES
THEY COULD ACTUALLY EXPLAIN WHY HALF OF THE SHIT IN LATER SEASONS HAPPENS, BUT THAT WOULD BE TOO MUCH FOR THE SHOWFAGS TO HANDLE, BETTER RIP ALL THE CONTEXT OF THE SETTING OUT
YOU'RE TOO FUCKING STUPID TO REALIZE IT'S YOUR OWN FAULT THE SHOW'S GOTTEN AS BAD AS IT HAS, BECAUSE YOU ACCEPTED IT. YOU WANTED IT TO GET MORE SIMPLE BECAUSE IT WAS TOO FUCKING HARD FOR YOU TO GET

WELL GOOD JOB YOU FUCKING CASUAL, YOU GOT WHAT YOU DESERVED.

I CAN'T STOP YELLING AT YOU FUCKING IDIOTS
I'VE HAD IT!
I'VE HAD IT WITH THIS RETARDED FUCKING BOARD AND THIS EVEN MORE RETARDED GENERAL. I HOPE YOU VOMIT AND DROWN ON THE NEXT COCK IN YOUR MOUTH, ESPECIALLY YOU STUPID GODDAMN MAISIE-OBSESSED NIGGERS

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FIGHT ME GODDAMMIT!
CHALLENGE MY WORDS IF YOU DARE, PRESENT YOURSELF TO ME SO I MAY VERBALLY BEAT THE UNLIVING FUCK OUT OF YOU
Or run from my posts like the cowards you are.

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Your anger only makes me wetter.

Nice to see you're putting that feudalistic knowledge to good use.

I hope anyone who supports King Baratheon, Brother Killer edition fucking dies.

Its really fucking hard to get into a show when it fucking has this fucking piece of shit in it.

One minute he's burning his daughter, the next he's putting leeches on his nephew.

Don't get me started on the treatment of Renly.

FUCK THIS SHOW


I wish there was a kill button to kill anyone who likes Stannis. I'd press that shit in a heartbeat.

don't come back

>now he's King Baratheon, Brother Killer
Are you too fucking blind to see this?
It's bad when Stannis kills Renly, but totally acceptable when Renly tries to do to same fucking thing? Seriously? How do you not get this?

No, but Given the choice between a daughter murderer or someone who's only fault (If you can call it that) is liking cock, guess who I'd choose.

WHEN I SAY I'VE HAD IT, I MEAN I'M DONE LAYING DOWN AND ACCEPTING THE RETARDED FAGGOTRY THAT RUNS RAMPANT IN THESE THREADS
IN FACT, I REFUSE TO LEAVE. THESE THREADS ARE ONLY IMPROVED BY MY PRESENCE. I WILL RAISE THE DISCUSSION HERE TO AN ACCEPTABLE LEVEL WHETHER YOU FUCKING LIKE IT OR NOT.

I love it tbh

haven't had a good laugh like this in quite some time

>he knows Robert is getting cucked, says nothing
>he knows Stannis is king by right, tries to kill him
>calls Shireen ugly and says it would have been better if she died
NO
==I WILL NOT STAND FOR YOUR BLATANT BIAS. STANNIS WAS NOT PERFECT, BUT RENLY WAS A COMPLETE SHIT WHOSE RULE AS KING WOULD HAVE COMPLETELY DESTABILIZED WESTEROS.

DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HISTORY? DO YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A KING WINS HIS SEAT BY RULE OF ARMS AND THEN DIES? EVERYTHING FUCKING FALLS APART DUE TO PETTY POWER STRUGGLES.

WHAT YOU ARE ADVOCATING IS NOTHING LESS THAN THE DESTRUCTION OF WESTEROSI SOCIETY AS WE KNOW IT

Did Stannis really posed any threat to Renly, from Renly's view? Aside from traditional oldest male relative right or something like that

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The Lannister kings' reign brought peace and prosperity?

What?
I don't understand the question. Renly can never be king while Stannis is alive. Period. He could be king if Stannis was sent to the Wall, but we both know Stannis in ACOK would rather die than join the Watch.


Open a fucking book, nigger. Ever heard of Alexander the Great?

What are you talking about? The Lannisters have never sat the Iron Throne, only Targaryans and Baratheons.

If I get it right, Renly had a huge, loyal army, and according to Shoutfag Stannislover, Stannis had to kill him, becuse if he was alive, he would have invaded that piece of rock Stannis called home and crushed him like a bug. So if we don't count Melisandre - did Renly knew her? - and we look from Renly's perspective, aside from the fact of the rightful king thing, did Stannis pose any threat to Renly? Maybe I misunderstood something anyway…

Joffrey and Tommen are both products of pure incestous Lannister love. Nothing Baratheon in them. Everyone knows this. That's why I refer to them as Lannister kings

D&D can't write political intrigue so I'm pretty happy that they almost don't bother to try.

this vertical is still the best thing to come out of GoT

Uh, no. If you'd read ACOK, Renly is very explicit when he says that he absolutely thinks he's in a position to crush Stannis. He thinks so little of Stannis on the battlefield that Renly's brilliant plan to defeat his brother was… to take all of his knights, ride them days past Renly's supply lines so they can't eat, and charge right into the rising sun to kill Stannis.
Who has a sword that has explicitly terrified the high hell out of horses. I'll let you think about how that battle would have gone down.

I understand Joffrey and Tommen are both Lannisters, but that doesn't change the fact that, legally speaking, they are both Baratheons. The history books will probably say "Joffrey Baratheon" regardless of how many common people think they're actually Lannisters and it's because of Stannis that so many people believe it in the first place.

Also, Mel was with Stannis when he treated with Renly.

Thanks.

Another issue I have with your post: Renly called Storm's End home. Stannis has been living at Dragonstone since the Rebellion. Renly had to come and stop Stannis from taking his home because losing it would've been a horrible blow to the morale of his army and officers. A king that can't hold his own castle is no king worth following.
Stannis had to kill Renly because Renly was warring against him. Like, how many times do I have to say this? Renly stole all of the bannermen who rightfully belonged to Stannis, and he was going to use those bannermen to murder his rightful king.

You know there is a reason for the laws of inheritance, right? It's precisely for the transferal of power without bullshit like this. When you defend Renly, you defend a world of strength even worse than the one they already live in.

Renly had absolutely no claim to the throne and - importantly - made his claim before the incest accusation was made, and above his brother's own claim. He was totally illegitimate.

The reason he had a large army was because the Tyrells threw in behind him, a move Olenna considered fucking retarded, and he called in his own bannermen from the Stormlands. Nobody cared when he died.

He then lucked out that Joffrey chopped off Ned's head and put the North and Riverlands into rebellion, and spent a few weeks lazily doing tournaments and having fun instead of moving on King's Landing.

Nobody was worried about him - not Tyrion, not Tywin, nobody. They were terrified of Stannis getting his army.

Which they were completely justified in doing.
With the full might of the Stormlands behind him, Stannis was able to take a wildfire attack straight to the face and keep going. If anything else had happened at the Blackwater, anything at all, Stannis would have won.

Tywin shows up an hour late? Stannis is already in the gates and Joffrey's head is on a spike.
Tywin shows up on time without Renly's ghost? Half of Stannis' army doesn't immediately defect and they take King's Landing.
Tyrion doesn't think of the wildfire plot? KL is taken before Tywin even gets there.
Tyrion doesn't destroy all of the homes built outside of the walls? Stannis almost literally waltzes into the city.

There's a reason GRRM wrote Renly out in the second book.

KILL HIM, RAMSAY

Did diaperanon write this?

Interesting. Now I see Renly in a different light. Thank you, user!

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Anytime, my friend. I find that my first impression of many characters isn't quite on the mark.
I can always sperg about someone else, if you'd like.

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I doubt it. it's from way back, probably 2011 or so

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I may have just found the world's biggest GRRMdrone

I'm seriously disappointed in show Euron.
He's so boring in comparison. Euron is retardedly over the top, but I never really got why people had a problem with that. Show Euron is just a dumb brute with a big dick and no presence to speak of.

I didn't get that with him. He seemed normal to me.

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I seriously don't get it.

Come on, man. I like Euron, but normal?

He is talking about book euron being retardedly over the top

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I know people who can lift each eyebrow individually, and am one of those people myself as well, but she is honestly the only one I've ever seen who can turn her eyebrows into tildes

What about him is abnormal?

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I want to lick her eyebrows so much, they're so hypnotizing.

His blue lips?

I'm not the one sperging with their Maisie Williams' unrequited love, and No, you don't know me.


8/10 Nice pasta, those pesky kids could be more happy with their own board /maisie/ just like the bronies have /pone/
Also why the false anger? Who are you trying to fool, maisiefag?

Also
>>>/out/

Physical appearance issues aren't what I am talking about.

You're never on topic

She looks so much better as a brunette.

/thread

her 5head's gonna look like an accordion in a few years

Again, telling someone to go somewhere. That's your trademark
I wasn't angry when I made that post, just thought that pic was appropriate for your behaviour of wanting to push out everyone who is different

What about these posts?

How are these offtopic? All made by me

Why do you always point out the most ignorant posts and claim they're yours?
Why do that to yourself?

I'm back, with a Maisiekiss for you

It's perfect! I could do about 45-50 when I was working out regulary year ago, but now I haven't touched a dumbbell in 8 months, so about 20-25 I'd say

She's the strongest

OH GOD
Tell us more please, immediately! Did you interact with her, who was she with, how do you know she was on drugs??


lmao

Pick 1

Cant you guys just exchange skype contact info already? This shit is severely out of place for a GoT thread or even a imageboard.

Robert
The mad king's son has absconded with my bethrothed, with her consent in the matter extremely qeuestionable. My brother-in-law to be, fathe-in-law to be and many of their banner men were murdered horrifically by the King as punishment for daring to question the prince's actions. The King has demanded my head and the head of my best friend.

Renly
Sure Stannis saved my ass at Storm's End and pretty much ran the kingdom with Jon Arryn for the past 15 years, but he isn't as sensitive as me. He's not so good at empty small talk with the likes of Littlefinger. I should be king, even though I'll never produce an heir because I'm a raging faggot. Besides, heirs don't matter because there should just be a war to decide the new king every time the old king dies.

People actually believe this is the same thing

If you say so user :)

pick one

BTFO

Finally, someone else who fucking gets it.

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JUST

You already did, thanks for ruining Holla Forums

I read the book.

he didn't seem that bad.

He's just a step away from turning into another Darkstar, user.

Nope, the fact that Maisie is your #1 makes you a sick fuck with terrible mental issues

SAID NO MAISIEFAG EVER

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As far you keep sperging you are not at the level of humans, you're at the same level of furries and bronies

Honestly, I thought he was pretty understandable, too.
Grandiose, but understandable.