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>>257366607This is a redirect link to snatch your IP.
>>257366149How yall doing, remember that quarantine makes a perfect opportunity to improve
>>257366149Hail Victory
>>257366607DO NOT TOUCH, IP GRABBER LINK. MOST LIKELY SOME ANTIFA FAGGOT
>>257366149>>257366547>>257366607>>257366752>>257366831>>257366854>>257366945Look at these LARPers pretending they're SS officers. Top fucking lel.You know who else likes playing pretend? You guessed it, LITTLE GIRLS like pic related.Suck down another Capri Sun, gobble another Lunchable, Look at these LARPers pretending they're rangers in some rpg. Top fucking lel.You know who else likes playing pretend You guessed it, LITTLE GIRLS like pic related.Gulp down another Belly Washer, devour another Granola Bar, and jump back on Call of Duty, little katie. At least on there you can pretend you actually have the balls to fight for something greater than yourself.Pic related is all of you Little shitposting girls pretending to warriors of the white race
>>257366149Hitler loved his powerful black lovers cock.He drank that juicy semen on the reg.
>>257367595wot?
>>257367595>>257367823Didn't take the rabbis & trannys long lmao
>>257366149Stop shilling this project white shit whatever it is this is an nsg thread not some promotional tool for you
>>257368075You heard me. you fags are really little girls having a giggle acting like you're tough nazi soldiers Stop shitposting and go to bed, little susie. you have school in the morning.
>>257368310Jew? You're the little girls shitting up the board with this pathetic larp.You must be 18 to post here. 10 more years to go, little sarah
>>257368310Hitler loved to be spit roasted in bed.
Quiet now, girls? Did mommy tell you to get off 4chins and hit the fucking sack?Good. No one needs larpers who will never fight the good fight making shit tier generals.Have fucking fun at school tomorrow, girls
Friendly reminder that to make real change do some research and see about joining an org that is active in your area.
>>257366149I would support NatSoc if it wasn't so occultic. Why were so many fags like Evola and Himmler into all that occultic pagan shit? Makes me not trust the ideology.
>>257366149What we had.
>>257371288
>>257371288>>257371343What we have
>>257366149Fuck the USA. Complete shithole. Govt abuse of power at an all time high. Add me to the list you fucking glow in the dark n1gg3rs. Fuck you.Also nazilarp is homosexual. Get that dilator out of your fresh GRS and get fucked fagg0t.
>>257370726The ideology itself has nothing to do with it personally I don’t give a fuck about what religion you follow as long as it’s origins are from Europe and it’s not some satanist shit always put your race above religion
>>257366149project white doesn’t do shit and they never will stop using NSG threads to promote your bullshit
>>257366149Hey all of join the new movement Embrace modernity SOCIAL NATIONALISM. It’s exactly like National Socialism except it’s easier for the mainstream to digest. We have around 2,000 members in the past 6 months if we get enough we can start a revolution. Soon the third option will replace Democrats and Republicans and become the only option.
>>257366831yep
>>257371458considering religion concerns eternity and race only this lifetime, religion will always be more important, and is central to my ideology. If NatSoc wasn't so pagan I'd probably support it but nah
>>257372082Top kek >>257373019National Socialism doesn’t have anything to do with paganism they are separate things National Socialism is not Christian either they are separate though as a National Socialist you must always put your race over your religion in order to save our religions in the first place we must save our race as without it we will be destroyed and our religions with it we have to put religious beliefs aside for now otherwise we will never band together to fight the real enemy and we will all die divided but if that’s not your belief so be it
>>257373666Idk bro, saving my soul seems a bigger priority, as much as I want to save my race. Plus Revelation already tells me that the world will end in degeneracy and chaos so there's not much a point in trying to make a utopia lol
>>257373975That’s a defeatist view point I don’t think you realize how close our race is to dying and with the death of our race will come the death of our religions as well it doesn’t matter if the world ends that way as long as we have eachother to survive through it
>>257373019National Socialism as an ideology is not inherently pagan despite the fact that German natsoc did have pagan characteristics due to individuals like Himmler. One thing that was prevalent though was reverence to your ancestors>>257373666I agree, you can be any religion in a national socialist society as long as your beliefs and practices do not go against the prosperity of the race. I am Christian but I do not believe it affects my ideology
>>257366149Bumpo/
>>257366831Based and True.>>257367595Shills are fucking bad at their job these days.>>257367823Always ammuses me when Red.dit cucks black postThe fact that you think about "Black Cocks" in a sexual manner is a fuck tone more of burn on yourself for being a beastiality loving degenerate then it is on whoever you're trying to fucking "Roast' Like a middle schooler who never watched adult swim.>>257370353This.NatSoc banks NEED to be a thing afte rhtis.>>257370726>I would support NatSoc if it wasn't so occultic.We arent.Not Doctrinally anywayRead White Power by George Lincoln Rockwell if you want a good secular form of National Socialism explained.>Why were so many fags like Evola and Himmler into all that occultic pagan shit? Makes me not trust the ideology.Tbh its not exactly my branch of the ideology either.But i dont think it for the majority. Most people who are NatSocs are just tired of watching their race get fucked over If that sound like you?You should consider joining.>>257372082Anon if YOU get this started?I will absolutely accept it.
>A Squire's Trial by Alexander Slavrosarchive.org
>>257376626I’m a nationalist, but I refuse to be a socialist and Hitler is big gay and I believe in liberty as the only way my race can achieve it’s true destiny. What does this thread have to offer me?
>skulls and death everywhereah yes, this is an ideology I can trust
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>>257378044who cares. doesn't affect me.also people have always been degenerate. it's nothing new
>>257366149niggers tongue my anus>niggers tongue my anus
>>257377779You need more lady penises and rainbow flags?
>>257377721National Socialism is not socalism in the marxist sense I regard it more as the natural order. It is the people working together for the betterment of the group. By not allowing companies to do things that are a detriment to society and the people. I won't try to convert you as I personally don't care about Nazi aesthetics or Hitler besides the fact he created the ideology and that it appeals to some people. I personally believe many liberties are easily used by other countries to take advantage of our people. Maybe once homogeneous liberties are much easier to have but look at how China uses their centralization to beat up on companies based in the U.S. and recently with the number of shills there hasn't been as much self improvement but usually there is a decent bit of promotion to better yourself for the betterment of your people.
>>257380177just not interested in what looks like a death cult. What's the point?
>>257377721>I believe in liberty as the only way my race can achieve it’s true destiny.In case you haven't noticed, that doesn't seem to be working out too well. Unless whites drop the individualism and materialism, they will die out.
>>257380284Racial preservation. That is at the core of national socialism.Also the skull emblems originated in the German Empire not the Third Reich.
>>257376626Have the updated version BASIC READING LIST FOR RADICAL FASCISM>A Squire's Trial by Alexander Slavrosarchive.org
>>257380391This bitch is a real life photoshop.
>>257368514>>257368798>>257368909>>257369934>>257378489>>257379157>>257380391Pretty week shills today I gues mossad cut pay..
Video series from James Mason "From me to you"Episode 1>bitchute.com
NS Website Launched allowing the users to become part of the contributors>americanfuturist.xyz
I have suffered enough. I position myself as a National-Socialist now.
VOTE FOR MY PARTY DRAKKAR ...
>>257375662whos the dude in the picture?
>>257366149youtube.com
>>257380793source?
>>257380391Stay salty jew.>>257381015Welcome user.Watch this >bitchute.com
>>257366149Stay strong brothers. Mark the enemy with an O.
>>257380637Still don't see the point
>>257382291>Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheimand what's the joke?he is the dude that was in charge of the purge once the war was over?
>>257383008Google the Winter War my dude.
>>257376626>>257380677>>257380793Fuck off siege nigger I kicked your ass in the last thread nobody wants to follow someone convicted of child pornography and groping a minor
>>257383950Lol not the same dude I just posted the reading list. I can believe it realistically necessary for some sort of acceleration without being a full blown siegefag. Knowledge is power reading Siege won't automatically make you like those atomwaffen fags.
>>257382151Some Swedish TV show called "Blue Eyes". It's pretty shit but that scene was good.
>>257366547Heil. bitchute.com
>>257383950Nigger what? I just joined this thread and haven't been on 4chan since yesterday. So didn't own me with FACTS & LOGIC like you're claiming fag. Also >>257384500 is right, I mean I'm a follower of SIEGE myself but yeah it's pretty fucking gay to be pissed off over books. I don't care for Covington but I don't sperg out whenever The Brigade is posted since anons have a right to read whatever NS books they want and make up their own mind. Oh also if you're going to argue against something, it's best not to act like a kike and go on character attacks instead you should be attacking James Mason's arguments but you don't. Like again I don't care for Covington but I don't go on attacking his character, I attack his ideas since that's what a man does and I'm not a kike.
>>257377779the skull and death themes are kinda cringe but at the same time (((they))) have killed so many people and still to this day are the cause of so much despair and suffering so most of us are beyond angry and want vengeance
>>257384500There are some good aspects of siege but it’s mainly degenerate skinhead shit>>257384927>character attack>acting like a kikeOr yeah forgive me I should stop acting like a kike for not wanting to follow a pedophile forgive me only Jews hate pedophiles it’s not like Jews ARE pedophiles and I have attacked his ideas they are shit and every time I do you come back and say the same shit making some militia and killing niggers isn’t going to do anything and not wanting to follow somebody because they are a pedophile is a pretty big difference then not wanting to follow someone because they are ugly or a fatass it’s not just a character attack it’s a pretty big fucking thing to say you hate niggers then turn around and act like one touching some innocent little girl
>>257386975>Or yeah forgive me I should stop acting like a kike for not wanting to follow a pedophile forgive me only Jews hate pedophiles it’s not like Jews ARE pedophilesExcept the "pedophilia" shit was claims of rape from a 17 year girl he was banging when she got kicked out after she was fucking a mexican. Those charges were dropped and they got him on firearms charges. You on the otherhand have to lie and LARP as if it's some toddler he was fondling. >I have attacked his ideas they are shit and every time I do you come back and say the same shit making some militia and killing niggers isn’t going to do anything Except he doesn't advocate that you dipshit. americanfuturist.xyz
>>257366149Do you guys have a discord server?
>>257386975>>257387704Also got point out that I love that people like you will change the age of the girl all the time. First she's ten then she's five and now she's just a "innocent little girl". Which could be anything except what she was. A 17 year old slut. Though that doesn't sound really evil so you have to make it sound like he fucks pre-schoolers at the local day care.
>>257387704This is fucking hilarious I enjoy watching you squirm attempting to sway everyone here in your direction so you admit he was fucking a 17 years old when he was 42 and that he did have a naked picture did a 15 year old when he was 40? Or am I attacking his “character” too much we should just disregard that right?
>>257388355You call her a slut meaning she did fuck a 42 year old or she didn’t because a slut makes it sound like she did also not clicking your fucking American futurist link faggot I know your behind that you siege niggers are gone you don’t exist anymore James said it himself so why are you still here?
>>257366149>THESE threads are UNACCEPTABLE YOU HEAR ME GOY! IS WHAT CAUSES UNJUST VIOLENCE IN THE WORLD AND WHAT RADICALIZES OTHER USERS TO BECOME TRENT AND KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE UNACCEPTABLE BEHAIVOUR THIS IS HORRIBLE DON"T YOU REALIZE YOU STAND UP FOR? FOR MILLIONS THAT WERE SLAUGHTERED?>I I NEED TO CALL MY LAWA
>>257388476First I got to love how you switched gears to just focusing on the "pedo" stuff after I pointed out you're a liar on his arguments and gave proof towards that. Again proving you argue in bad faith.>This is fucking hilarious I enjoy watching you squirm attempting to sway everyone here in your direction so you admit he was fucking a 17 years old when he was 42Yeah who cares? I don't see the issue with that since a 17 year old isn't a child. Even then the only reason you have issue with this isn't because of him banging a teen girl, it's because you just don't like his arguments and this is an easy avenue of attack and it's super fucking pathetic.>that he did have a naked picture did a 15 year old when he was 40?Yeah except that didn't stick either and again point to me where he is on the sex offender's list. It's publicly available. Find me exactly where he is on the sex offender's list. If he's this super pedophile then he'd be on there wouldn't he?
>>257388656Yeah she was fucking him but she's a slut for cheating on him with a mexican and for making false rape allegations. Also here is the archive link since you want to be gay and avoid reading his arguments. archive.is
>>257389081and the degenerate shows his true nature, are you hoping they'll let you be a pedophile in the new beta order faggot?
>>257389081Ok good that’s all I needed to hear you believe that a 42 year old fucking a 17 year old girl and having pictures of a 15 year old would be he totally acceptable in a National Socialist society and that it’s completely fine
>>257389364Yeah how dare he have a 17 year old girlfriend! How evil! He might as well be fucking babies! He should have been dating some middle aged used up whore with saggy tits! It's degenerate to be in a relationship with women when they're peak reproduction, he should have been someone with their eggs all dried up.
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>>257389455Nice strawman faggot, are you going to actually start addressing my points or just arguing in bad faith and dodging questions like a kike? Pic related is how you've been acting. Speaking of which, when are you going to find me James Mason on the sex offender list for raping kids? I can't find him. I need help.
>>257389749fucking kek the jew shows his true colors
>>257390007Oy vey delete that post now
>>257390289I meant you kike
>>257390808I know, thats the joke retard.
>>257391027doesn’t even make sense your calling yourself a jew? i don’t get how that’s a joke
>>257366149could somone elaborate on what "The Body National" is?
>>257391360Quick question. Do you have aspergers?
>>257391634no but if I did wouldn’t that be an attack on character?
>>257392768Not if it's explaining how you can't understand basic jokes
>>257392946well the other guy was explaining how james isnt such a great guy as you claim he is
>>257393437Okay good for him then retard.
>>257367595neck yourself shill.
>>257366149not sure if pedo or tranny spaming. not like the latter excludes the former.
>>257370726Christfag aka jewfag, hail odin. Paganism was our true religion.
>>257398556It’s people like you who divide us that keep us from achieving victory stop the infighting race over religion
>>257398613You know what's worse? Rumor Spreading and Bad Jacketing. Those are even worse problems. Something no one in the movement wants to talk about. Instead they'd rather run with rumors of "X is a Fed!" and let it destroy organizations and alike. It's a rampant problem. en.wikipedia.org
>>257376626>The Manson File: The Writings of Charles Manson>archive.org
Man, this thread is shit. Is the guy I told to come on yesterday here?
>>257377779kek
>>257367595>>257368514>>257368798>>257369934Hey kike, how's the weather in Tel Aviv?
>>257389504>>257380677>>257378044>>257371288>>257366547Bump
>>257366945hello sleepy americans, euro natsocs here to take some of the banners off you for today. This chart is pretty good, it comes closer to the direction that I wish to go in, I wish to make more coherent the self improvement aspects. As I feel that it is no longer an amateur science for many and we dont need to self assemble most of it. I want to make a megachart on self improvement.
>>257402957Good morning kamerad, I look forward to seeing it. Best of luck. Long live National Socialism!
>>257403281in the european hours we often get a bunch of literal jews with proxies, sometimes it needs some maintenance those threads. Also, far fewer natsocs there are here in europe, it truly is more cucked than america. But the jew was trying to recruit people based on self improvement, I think that some of their people wish to drive the /sig/ movement into kosher waters, so in order to compete with him (and win) I thought that maybe a chart related to that should be made.With all of our symbols obviously. As we can see pic related, to showcase that there is truly no doubt that /sig/ is natsoc.
>>257400319Bad Jacketing a pedophile yeah that’s real terrible for me to call out a pedo for being a pedo
>>257403467Hey still waiting for you to get me that sex offender's list.nsopw.gov
>>257367595shut up, SPAIN
>>257403849Holy fuck you are retarded not being on the public sex offender registry does not instantly mean you are innocent it depends what state you are in and what the crime was in his case it was child porn and fucking a 17 year old girl at the age of 40 and 42 this was in the 90s so he is either off the registry now or the crime in the state he committed it didn’t require him to register plus the 17 year old dropped the case so he wouldn’t have to in that instance but the child porn depends on the state how the fuck are you even attempting to defend someone who you know fuck a 17 year old when he was 42 and had a naked picture of a 15 year old then you go and call yourself a National Socialist fuck you your not shit your a degenerate faggot who does not represent us at all any encounter with a real National Socialist would end with you getting your fucking ass beat
>>257403849>>257404592Do you seriously think Hitler cared about degenerate faggots like you he would have you hanging from a tree if he knew you believed that was okay for him to do
>>257367595kill yourself you ugly spook.
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>>257404592>>257404704Because you yourself don't give a fuck that he had a 17 year old girlfriend. It's irrelevant and you're arguing in bad faith. You just don't like his book or arguments so you bring up shit he got charged with but dropped due to it being bullshit (Lawfare happens when you're working in the political scene shockingly enough) or you bring up the fact that he had a 17 year old girlfriend and act like he's a child rapist (in fact you originally left that part out on purpose and implied she was a little girl, again proving you argue in bad faith). I can tolerate when people don't like SIEGE and have valid criticisms against it and I'm happy to confront that. I do all the time with people who enjoy Covington's work or Patriot Front guys. What I don't tolerate is faggots like yourself who purposefully go around SIEGE and make character attacks. Specifically ones where originally you have to make false implications. Again going on your "innocent little girl" tirade until you changed tunes after I pointed out she was 17, not a toddler. But this is all irrelevant but truth is that you don't give a single damn about this. It's just a way to attack without having to confront any of Mason's arguments. As for the sex offender list, I bring that up because all these allegations you bring up were fucking dropped because it was Lawfare garbage against him and oh yeah he wouldn't go on the list. My whole point is this, outside of you constantly repeating these bad faith arguments. What specific arguments of Mason do you not like? Give me passages from SIEGE or any of his recent news letters. What don't you like? We can have a conversation on that shit instead of engaging in this autistic arguing over him having a 17 year old girlfriend that you and I both know you don't give a fuck about. Can we all do this shit or do we have to act like immature faggots and use these Destiny tier arguing tactics?
>>257405506I’m never gonna drop that he’s a faggot for fucking a 17 year old as a 42 year old thats fucked up and we both know it you chose to ignore that so that you don’t look bad I shave already spoken to you about how retarded siege is just creating a militia and attacking the government won’t collapse the system you will get tracked down eventually and destroyed that’s not being defeatist it’s just pointing out a bad strategy we need to gain autonomy first and create communities I don’t see what’s the gain from killing random government officials without any system in place to back up on or even do once the system collapses
>>257405685It’s not time to accelerate yet we need something to live off of something to create a nation with before we blindly attack mass movement are not the way to go either running around with your little posters and chanting reclaim America won’t do jack shit and it never has
>>257405685>I’m never gonna drop that he’s a faggot for fucking a 17 year old as a 42 year old thats fucked up and we both know it you chose to ignore that so that you don’t look badI'm obviously not ignoring that or hiding it whatsoever considering I'm talking to you right now about it nigger. I even gave you an interview of Mason himself admitting and talking about it. Again though, you don't give a fuck about it. This is just you arguing in bad faith and avoiding his points because I don't know if you're afraid of being wrong or something. I don't honestly know. >I have already spoken to you about how retarded siege is just creating a militia and attacking the government won’t collapse the system Yes and I gave you Mason's own writing disproving that claim of yours and you fucking refused to even look at it. I even archived the damn thing and you still refused to read it despite him saying the EXACT OPPOSITE of your claim of his arguments. In fact this point of yours is an easily disprovable strawman. Again here is his own writing saying the exact opposite of that saying DON'T DO IT because you're only wasting your life. This is also why he cut ties with Atomwaffen Division too. Fucking read for once instead of talking out of your ass americanfuturist.xyz
>>257405784Exactly, like I said it was "Family" within SIEGE that advocates for this iirc. Let me check.
>>257405685>>257405784Yep right here. "Family" in SIEGE and this is just one of many clustered in the section regarding system drop-out but this is just an example. Sorry for the shitty formating.FAMILYI do not use the term in the sense that the Right Wingand the Reactionaries use it when they moan about theSystem's assault on the family and how the American senpai-ily has been atomized and effectively destroyed. This is allquite true enough but it has little bearing on what's to bedone with regard to the success of the future. Mansonhad the right idea about Family. It involved people of thesame Race, the same Spirit, coming together for mutualsecurity. Most may have turned their backs on their "real"families in order to have found the one, true Family butsuch is the case with regard to a struggle such as this onewith overtones of civil warfare. Hand-in-hand with revolu-tion, with survival, is the elemental component of the Senpai-ily. It is really the only way the System can be destroyed, re -ally the only way we can survive. TRIBES of White Warriors,bands of White Men with their Women and Children whohave drawn together and then pulled away from the Sys-tem to allow it to fall without taking them with it.The only insurance we've got against being picked offone-by-one, being atomized and casually victimized bythe System's Pigs is to STICK TOGETHER. Go and get eventhose most hostile accounts of the Charles Manson Senpai -ily's days in California 's Death Valley and you'll see how itwas done. It must be done again in hundreds of thou-sands of locations across the country. Again, the Movement has added its own words of direction on how theseFamily-type units must be arranged to assure at least aminimum chance of success and survival. It's not to bedone for fun or for caprice, but for LIFE or DEATH.
>>257405685>>257405784>>257406595If you want to read SIEGE yourself then here is the audiobook by Alex Linder. archive.org
Does someone have the Evola reading guide?
>>257407301yep right here
Wow, I've switched over to drinking nothing but water, and I've never been more awake or felt this rested in years.
>>257407554Yeah I've been cutting back on soda and such. Fast Food and Soda and such eat up a lot of your money too. Shit you can easily spend on better things.
>>257407989Yep, I've cut all that shit out, haven't even started to get in shape yet.Yet I feel the best I've had in years.
>>257408164Yeah like honestly it's super cheap to just make shit at home when you know where to get it. Like too many fags complain about how produce is expensive. You can get it dirt cheap at ethnic markets or fruit markets. It all comes from the same suppliers from my experience, it's just you pay more at Wal Mart and Kroger because they're big box stores. Even then it's not THAT expensive unless your buying organic, which is a scam.
>>257408453It's not expensive, especially considering how many meals can be made out of some of it.Or for the fact I can get a lb of banana's for a Dollar. That's at least a week's worth.
What does /nsg/ & /sig/ think of ecofascism? Is it just a part of national socialist, or should it be viewed as an own entity?
>>257408920Also, have this
>>257408456Most of us are.
Does anyone have the link to the translated Nazi fitness manual?
>>257408920It's part of national socialism. We need someone to protect the environment with a strong hand. The nation needs it's animals and forests to be as healthy as the people
>>257409146this, ecofascism is not even that distinct from national socialism. The proper balance with nature is important to have. It is the jewish capitalist system that gives no regard to the well being of its people, nor the environment that the people inhabit and enjoy. The jew dehumanizes, the natsoc does not.
>>257409146>>257410084Good answers. Thank you
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>>257409146The bourgeoisie took advantage of the state and the government wasn't fully ellected from associations of proletariats so it's not socialism.
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>>257366149Need help defending the flag from Russian trannies, guyspixelplanet.fun
I have brown eyes.
What a fucking joke this shit is. How can people take a meme ideology so seriously
>>257416588You nifty info pics are completely useless, considering the fact that when you're a socialist, you are automatically a kike cock sucker
>>257378489>>257377779>>257378489>>257382856>>257417682You will never be a real woman. Back to the tranny discord server with you
>>257417752Yeah you can call Marx a jew that doesn't refute anything he says.White british sold heroin to China and declared war on it when they refused to buy more. If you were to take you hatred of jews consistently you would have to conclude from this, and other atrocities commited by whites, that anything white philosophers say is to be dismissed. Of course you don't do that, because your ideas are totally inconsistent.
>>257418056Furthermore, if socialists are automatically "kike cock suckers" it wouldn't be the case that Israel was pissed at east germany for refusing to pay holocaust reparations.There also wouldn't be numerous jews that promote libertarian capitalism and also the jews in the US government that supported war and embargos on socialist regimes.
>>257418211>>257418426people like you always put on so much pressure on us, call us names, tell us we are wrong, to do everything in your power to steer us away from a simple natsoc ideology. And then when we are feeling such pressure you go like "well you cannot have real natsoc traditionalism but look at this thing that I made that kinda looks like it but actually isnt it that you should pick"like how about no.
>>257418685>you do everything in your power to steer us away from a simple natsoc ideologyListen man I have total sympathy for your ideas of national unity, prosperity, equality of opportunity ecology and all of that.What you must come to realize is that the world is not like a hearts of iron 4 game where you sort of pick nodes from a political and then implement it.When the people who control your state, are bourgs, whose main source of income comes not from the labour they practice but rather from the capital they own, there will be certain political and economic consequences that will not correspond to your benevolent desires. These include, but are not limited to, the supression of labour movements, an increased rate of exploitation, the promotion of useless imperialist wars merely to expand the capital of national bourgeoisie, and also economic crisis that are the result of necessary dynamics of capitalism such as the falling rate of profit.I used to identify as a fascist, because I saw in it a way to implement guaranteed housing, healthcare, equal access to education etc, but I soon came to realize that when you have bourg rule, these things are not likely to occur, and also that other harmful things occur that are a detriment to the well being of the proletariat.
>>257419518the people you speak off are merely "elites" those who did hard work, those who are gifted with high IQ, or just those who were lucky to inherit something. But mostly skill...And these people, within different kinds of political systems have different kind of effects. With national socialism, there is a greater focus towards the well being of the race, of the people. Within capitalism, they get no brakes from any system from showing off thing most horrid natures tho. But no matter what, these people always will exists, there are always those who are superior no matter what era. The only real question remains is where that superiority is funneled into. But if you are a leftist communist you in the first place have never felt superior. Not with hard work, nor with effort, you saw little gain from becoming better at something, and thus you always hate the elites for they embody something that you can never attain.
>>257419518>I have total sympathy for your ideas of national unity, prosperity...and all of that>Proceeds to spread the propaganda of PRC, which infamously destroyed countless amounts of Chinese cultural inheritanceAre you even trying not to come off as a total shill?
>>257420318Yeah you have no understanding of how these "high IQ superior hard working people" have amassed the amount of wealth they have. The fact that their income comes mostly for the mere ownership of capital rather than the labour they input is not an opinion, it's a literal fact. If you own stock of an oil firm, and the company profits, you will profit from it. However, you did not labour in the extraction of oil, did not design the oil extraction facilities, did not plan the mining, did not help manage it, none of that. You merely bought oil stock. And the same goes for people who do labour in management, but also have ownership of the resulting profit. They are not earning a salary correspoding to their labour input, but rather privately apropriating the results of collective labour. I mean if you seriously look at the absurd amount of wealth the bourg have amassed, and think "oh they are just hard working smart people who got there by merit", you are really extremly gulible and submissive.>but if you are a leftist communist you in the first place have never felt superior.lol dude there are plenty of "communist leftits" who have got much, much further in life than you ever will. For example the communists who designed the first satellite ever created and the first man in space. This point is just blatantly not true.
>>257420916using your money to invest it into all sorts of ventures is natural part of a healthy society. Abusing as it happens today is another story. And funny that you mention being naive lol. You guys are always the least educated ones.
>>257421387I am not arguing about wether or not "its a natural part of a healthy society" or any of this vague shit.I am merely pointing out the fact that the mere ownership of capital is the main source of income for the bourgeoisie, which means that anyone who claims they got there merely through the merits of their labour is objectively wrong, especially since we do not live in a society where there is equality of opportunity. And that having bourgeoisie control the state has inevitable political and economic consequences, mainly that they will use state power to maintain their position and further their class interests.
>>257422109The problem that you mostly have is the fact that you are incapable of further seeing patterns...just having good pattern recognition...if you just knew who or what is doing all of this evil instead of these jewish notions that were embedded into your brain...ugh. So boring to talk with.