NK vs US

Except the times the Pentagon wanted to preemptively use nukes during the cold war in the idea that the USA could win a nuclear exchange with the Warsaw Pact.

Aliens will come back and install communism, Jesus will also come back to fight imperialist troops, its going to be fucking insane bthe end of life as we know it is going to end, a new era will begin

Oh yeah, they wanted to? So? They didn't and they can't.

Because the White House stopped them yet what if the DoD overthrow Trump like Hillary wants? What if a military junta is formed in the USA where only the most senile military officers that still want to nuke Russia become who runs the USA?

lmao, you really believe that the puppet presidents have a say in that?

Do you really think if the US Army sends in the tanks to overthrow Trump that there wouldn't be a military junta afterwards?

The Trump administration has an absolutely misguided view of how well our missile defense system works. There's a reason why President Moon keeps publicly reiterating that the US cannot preemptively strike NK without their permission. Also see:
twitter.com/Joshua_Pollack/status/934828411067002885

At the moment, the US is sleepwalking into a second Korean war. It appears that the popular view in the military is that DPRK are too insane for deterrence to work. Deterrence works of course, but only when both sides are committed to it.

Fugg
But I think we’ve probably been for awhile

Seoul and Tokyo would get wiped off the face of the planet. If it happens in ten years then half the mainland US would get it too.

No matter how much Trump rattles his saber, NK is not getting attacked any time soon. It didn't happen when they were limited to conventional arms and it DEFINITELY won't happen now that they have nukes.

We're communists, we've been on watchlists forever.

If the US launched a pre-emptive nuclear strike on North Korea do you guys think China would retaliate with nukes?

There would be a very high risk that China and Russia starts lobbing tactical nukes at US forces in the theater in retaliation.

This will be a long post, I hope it clears some things up:

First it should be noted that the US would likely try to avoid using nuclear weapons on the peninsula; even though so-called "strategic nukes" are being developed and talked about, miscalculation as well as the inevitable nuclear fallout caused by even minor nukes would provoke even further complications with China, Russia, Japan, and of course South Korea. The US military is arrogant, not dumb. I could link you with some Korean war game articles if you'd like.

In an event of invasion, China would no doubt rush to secure a buffer zone to prevent both NK refugees and US troops from breaching their border; they'd also likely try to secure the other nuclear weapons in the region. The biggest worry is that, in such an event, Chinese and US troops brush with one another, possibly causing a standoff. This could be avoided if plans have been agreed on in advance by US & China, but at the moment it's unlikely that any sort of red telephone has been established at all.

China has additionally said that, should the US strike first, they would come to the aid of North Korea– but in what capacity remains unclear. While it's unlikely that China would risk any sort of war with the US, it's not as if they're going to let a major war take place on their doorstep. If you're worried about risks of an all-out nuclear exchange, the South China Sea, Syria, and the situation in Ukraine are probably more worrisome.

This all being said, I still don't think it's likely that the US will try an invasion– at least any time soon; yesterday the US announced that a world conference joint-hosted with Canada would be held in early 2018 on diplomatic solutions for the crisis. SK President Moon additionally stressed that any decision regarding a preemptive strike must first be cleared with the South Korean government, further noting that nobody–i.e Trump's administration– should jump to miscalculated action in light of the recent test.

Pic related is hot off the press. NK held a special announcement moments ago regarding last night's launch. announcing that the HK-15, the freshly tested missile, has the capacity to strike the entire continental US. This is backed by experts estimating the missile's range at about 13,000km.
Now, NK has stressed in KNCA reports as well as through their diplomats that they wouldn't be willing to negotiate until after their nuclear missile program had completed and established credible deterrence. Now that they've achieved that, there may be some hope in the situation cooling down. Note how in pic related they're stressing that their nuclear weapons will not be threatened or used except towards countries compromising their national sovereignty. How things proceed from here will largely depend on Trump's response; if he can accept deterrence, then things will be "peaceful" from here on out. If they don't, then it's a signal that they're continuing to seriously consider war.

Could i get those links.

TTHANK YOU BASED KJU

War game and first strike articles:
newsweek.com/2017/05/05/what-war-north-korea-looks-588861.html
thediplomat.com/2017/10/military-stalemate-how-north-korea-could-win-a-war-with-the-us/
www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/world/north-korea-targets
thediplomat.com/2017/03/no-lets-not-invade-north-korea/
thediplomat.com/2017/04/the-real-risk-of-us-military-force-against-north-korea/
38north.org/2017/10/mzagurek100417/
newsweek.com/war-trump-north-korea-nuclear-kim-jong-un-china-beijing-pyongyang-japan-south-676372
newyorker.com/news/news-desk/what-would-war-with-north-korea-look-like
defconwarningsystem.com/2017/11/21/think-before-you-act-towards-a-possible-us-strike-on-north-korea/

Good articles on US over-confidence:
warontherocks.com/2017/10/deadly-overconfidence-trump-thinks-missile-defenses-work-against-north-korea-and-that-should-scare-you/
defenseone.com/ideas/2017/09/no-we-cannot-shoot-down-north-koreas-missiles/141070/?oref=d-topstory

Some morbid pessimism:
pt 1: 38north.org/2017/03/rcarlin032117/
pt 2: 38north.org/2017/11/rcarlin110717/

A dissenting opinion about US use of nukes on peninsula:
warontherocks.com/2017/10/the-growing-danger-of-a-u-s-nuclear-first-strike-on-north-korea/

On regime change:
38north.org/2017/08/rsokolskyamiller080217/

In tandem, the NK Instability Project–basically theories and maps of how regime instability would play out– from the essential 38North:
38north.org/topics/nk-instability-project/

I might as well post the rest of good online NK resources:
38north.org and its affiliates
nkeconwatch.com
nkleadershipwatch.org
NK News is great, but I can't be arsed enough to buy a subscription:
nknews.org
nooninkorea.com
defconwarningsystem.com

War On The Rocks, Defense One, and The Diplomat, previously posted, have frequent contributions from NK Experts.

Here are the all the main NK experts / news aggregates worth following on twitter, in vague order of worthwhile-ness (I think they're all great tho):

twitter.com/ArmsControlWonk
twitter.com/nktpnd
twitter.com/ajmount
twitter.com/annafifield
twitter.com/martyn_williams
twitter.com/mhanham
twitter.com/Joshua_Pollack
twitter.com/NarangVipin
twitter.com/newsjean
twitter.com/DuitsyWasHere
twitter.com/dprkwatch
twitter.com/EllemanIISS
twitter.com/NoonInKorea
twitter.com/nateisgood
twitter.com/AlastairGale
twitter.com/luke_j_obrien
twitter.com/wslafoy
twitter.com/NuclearAnthro (gets points for being a socialist)
twitter.com/BulletinAtomic

Forgot an essential
armscontrolwonk.com

+a note on following NK experts on twitter:
I have no clue if other expert fields work in the same way, but NK experts seem to do an awful lot of speculation and trading of info on public twitter, making every new NK provocation a pretty incredible spectacle of co-operation and academia at work.