Leftism and government authority?

If Commies hate heirarchy and private companies, why they trust trust what the private government porky organizations and big-business shills say?

What govt says:

meanwhile we drink gallons of fluoride water a week (if you drink out of a drinking fountain or from certain brands of bottled water)

first off, msg is in 95% of all processed food, and is named natural flavor 90% of the time, so we end up eating grams upon grams of msg a week. Most people also ignore serving sizes and eat 10x what theyre supposed to

meanwhile, we’re finding insignificant trace amounts of mercury in it, though insignificant, like fluoride and msg, we eat dozens of pounds of hfcs a year.

meanwhile 1 year olds who weigh 7 times less than adults are getting 5+ doses in one visit. Also though these chemicals can filter out of the bloodstream, they dont leave once past the blood-brain-barrier. This is why shots are supposed to be given separately over time like in the 1980s, but are now instead often given all at one time.

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We don't. We only laugh at your excuses for it and when they punish you, and you have to suck it all up because it's your homestead born and raised economic theory you have so much faith in not to fail you every step of your (probably) well meaning life.

As for the rest of this it's all garbage. You're scared of fluoride, but never lead and asbestos. You're scared of cheap food, but you think it's the Government, not industry. The rest of this is just about diet.

So you're mad about diet? And fluoride? I can't parse what you're trying to say here, at best I can decipher is you're mad at liberals.

Also leftists aren't a monolith, a lot of this

That's a funny meme.

I'd effort post but this

Lol what

Complete and utter woo. The right can keep brainlets like you. Your priorities are completely distorted from how they should be if you rationally weighed risks relative to your priorities.

Theres literally nothing wrong with considering risks, especially if they’re gradual.

Also what do you mean by priorities? All these things can be avoided.

What brands of water have flouride in them?

Stopped reading right there. Communists aren't against hierarchy. They're against a class society which unjustly and inefficiently allocates resources.

Its more of a personal thing

I'm sorry, what?

All the cool ones are, though.

I see what you mean now, but rejection of ``hierarchies´´ isn't central to marxist works. I wasn't talking about the personal philosophies of marxists, but the theories of Marx.

But that's a complete dereliction of Marx' philosophical contours. It has its origins in Hegelian totality, in trying to explain exactly how it is that material contradictions are able to persist and endure underneath the edifice of equal access to the essential capitalist values of "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" (whose restatement goes all the way to Stalin, talking about the obfuscatory nature of these values when an individual has no way of fully embracing them under capitalism); however, there is always the extra piece that Marx discussed in this manner, Bentham (life, liberty, pursuit of happiness + Bentham), that completely restates the orientation of Marxist philosophy from wholly relating to materialism (how should organization and appearance be organized (Vulgar materialism) such that they negate the nature of class antagonism, but rather that the antagonism remains in its Hegelian form, the question of how this antagonism is formed from which class and ideology must necessarily be contradictory - and that is precisely where the issue becomes hierarchy. Capital has created an ideology and broken idea of universality, to which a hierarchical and pre-cognitive set of divisions have been created, those which the communist must absolutely oppose. For this reason, communist philosophy and its praxis have separated, philosophy seeking the organization of communist universality and praxis, being unable to assert a universality of its own, becomes a particularity (the same ideological construction as capitalist ideology, merely oriented in such a way that the working class is now prepared as the apex of the hierarchy - the class antagonism concluded, but the restrictive and broken hierarchical construct remaining)

I think you're trying to talk to social anarchists here OP
Anyway a lot of your food is unhealthy because it's profitable for it to be, simple as that.

That’s not what a true leftist would think.

Can you reduce your rafiqjargon to something digestible to a brainlet like me? It honestly sounds just like disjointed gibberish to me

Marxian relation to ideology started with Hegel - who had a huge point in trying to describe that if an idea was universal, how was it that there existed so many inherent contradictions in the idea, and if that was the case - why do we still so often buy into them hook, line, and sinker? So, in the world of capitalist ideology, how can so many material contradictions not completely destabilize the whole structure. Well, in comes Marx with the analysis of "Bentham", the essential ideological piece of Capital - whereby capitalist ideology and relations can persist under the guise of "natural truth, completely inherent to human experience" - one of these pieces being that no matter the subjectivity, these must naturally be subject to the "natural law of exchange and commodity", which as we both know is an absolutely hierarchical relationship, but it is posed as though it is 'natural' and 'universal'. Marxian philosophy now deals with the class issue, not as a perpetual one, but rather that communism is a project to assert a true universal, one that doesn't need an order of appearances (like that of ideology, in all its forms) to sustain itself. This point is what has divided communist theory from its praxis, in that a great number of the political bodies of the former socialist states organized society in such a manner that the working class merely functioned as the ruling class, non-observant that in the lack of private property relations and their state oversight, a wholly new antagonism had appeared - that of access and status. This new political corpus still had to violently excise and antagonize parts of society, not just those malevolent and misaligned saboteurs - regular people as well. The hierarchical character, which Marxian philosophy declares as self-contradictory remains, albeit in a new form - the socialist projects having accomplished so so much, but still ideologically functioning within the same framework as capital, just orienting it differently).

This is, not, however, a wholesale discrediting of the many works of these states, only the ideological compulsions that deformed them. How can one build socialism with capitalist dreams? The communists, those I critique and those I align myself with, all declare this impossible, so I think it only necessary that the radical body of leftism - the only one capable of decapitating the body of the capitalist monster, communists must surely come to reacquaint themselves with our rich philosophical and theoretical traditions, so that we may salvage what we may of our legacy and build a new, universal radical project for our time.

I apologize for light redditspacing and my language, I am still learning English

I meant that to me or others i personally dont like being bullied by the top dog. Sorry for the slow response, i fell asleep.

This is what happens when you get your medical information from the media instead of scientific papers. Stop confusing the two, youtu.be/LIlBsfTx3Kc this might help, also watch more potholer54, your scientific literacy is astonishingly bad.

Very informative, I largely enjoyed.

I guess in order to expand on these hypotheses, I or someone else must attempt to create a scientifically acceptable counterclaim, with many tested variables and control group data, accurate scientific/chemistry explanations and replicatable data.

Maybe It could be a revolutionary discovery, maybe I would discover theres another cause, but in general, research is > speculation. I just hope controversial studies like these, even if 100% professional, are not censored for being politically incorrect

What the fuck is wrong with burgers? Don't they sell real food up there?

If you want to avoid HFCS in the States you pretty much have to avoid 90% of pre-packaged food, condiments, beverages, ect.

water just took back the #1 spot from soda of america's drinking habits iirc. soda was stuck there for decades, who knows how much that shit has destroyed their health.

Fluoride is linked with depression and fluoride toxicity. I don't use fluoride toothpaste anymore. I use nano-hydroxyapetite.
MSG is linked with depression but I was only able to find a mouse study
High fructose corn syrup fucks with your ability to feel full and slows metabolism

OP is a hero and a saint

No classes doesn't mean no hierarchy, you will need to have a boss and a government in socialism

Then what the fuck is the point of a revolution if nothing changes? If you faggots are going to force me into another fucking hierarchy post revolution I will fucking revolt!

presumably when they say "small amounts" they're not calculating with the assumption that you drink a glass of water every day

le kronstadt face

The absolute state of the right.

Private industry and the extant bourgeois government are one. Private interests are why the FDA says HFCS is not poison. Remove the profit motive and money see where corruption goes. Imagine the shitstorm that would go down if the federal government said they would replace all coal power plants with molten sodium nuclear ones?

You'd be shocked how much of dietary "science" is either partly or outright completely wrong. We know very little about what we eat and the effect it has on us, save for basic stuff like proteins are good for muscle and vitamins are good for x, y and z.

Thus why most people should stick to traditional diets (pre-1950s) instead of blindly following modern capitalist "science" around.

But we don't.
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Ah, yes, the pre-1950's, when everyone was healthy as hell.

To be fair, excess of fluoride in water have the opposite effect on fluoride in toothpastes.

Back when the effect of fluor was only half understood, it was undertandable that people thought adding fluoride to water would enhance the public health (still does when there is absolutely no other source of fluoride for the local population but it's very rare), but once there is an industry depending on it and the designated lobby is formed, the situation become similar to tobacco or asbestos or any toxic product for that matter: Porky uses all tricks in the book to prevent his cashcow from being hurt (sweeping studies showing bad news under the rug, discrediting/intimidating opponents and so on)

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Fluoride in toothpaste is supposed to replace the scraped-off enamel. It makes no sense to put it in drinking water. Most people don't brush after eating so the fluoride from their post-meal bottled water will permanently stain their teeth.