Every radical left organization regardless if they are Hoxhaist or anarchist should adopt the label "democratic socialist". Normies fucking LOVE the term and Bernie popularized the hell out of it. And technically, every single Marxist and anarchist tendency IS 'democratic socialism' so we wouldn't be dishonest at all.
I think it's a great way to attract progressive and socdem normies into the anticapitalist movement. What are your guys thoughts?
Not arguing for reformism, just adopting the demsoc label. Every single revolutionary socialist ideology is democratic to some degree except maybe Bordigism. Why shouldn't we take advantage of a popular label?
Jordan Hernandez
I'm actually ok with this, so long as you use it to push an adamantly anti-capitalist message. Entryism is important. But as soon as the person starts backing off you need to use groupthink to make that person "not a comrade". Socdem bullshit is not acceptable.
Lincoln Jones
No. Socialism is inherently democratic - the label of “democratic socialism” implies otherwise. Pushing it will only serve to bolster any misconceptions that people may already have about socialism.
Dominic Peterson
bordigism is democratic it just doesn´t support the ruling democracy it tries to change
Jason Lewis
Agreed, and we should replace "democrat" in the degenerated sense with "electoralist." Direct democracy would be a lovely angle of approach. "No, I'm not an electoralist, I'm a democratic socialist. Democracy must come from the people, it can't come from electing representatives chosen by corporate lobbyists." Push the studies demonstrating that elections and policies in the US reflect the interests of the 0.0.1% and support neighborhood initiatives, point to the grassroots disaster relief efforts etc.
Ethan Turner
Democratic socialism implies that its origins are not democratic. Better word it in a way that its part of the country, part of the nation, more relatable that way. What about Not Socialism?
William Jenkins
That's a good point. Historically, socialists used to call themselves social democrats even.
Joshua Parker
In Portugal, the communist party refers to the dictatorship of the proletariat stage as "advanced democracy", which I think is pretty cool.