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Unless literally every country but the United States becomes socialist at the same exact time you realize they'd just be crushed right, if the entire third world flips the US can stay afloat for a while (mostly with Alaska, and most likely they'd annex Canada and probably Greenland). So unless the beast converts I doubt we're going much anywhere, so why not encourage the US to actually get more proles, we aren't getting many proles on our side on Eastern Europe anymore so the Second World is a literal bust since they're more likely to be a bust than the United States is with the possible exception of Russia but that's only because of the (massively revisionist) Communist Party of Russia being the second largest there, even then with just them alone we'd just be stuck in the Cold War again getting nowhere.

All Europeans are unsavable, and unrevolutionary, it is better for the world that all Europeans are killed in another World War. Why?

Because Europeans are products of capitalism in all aspects, all European culture, history and attitude is shaped by capitalism, feudalism, imperialism, colonialism, and chauvinism. From raping Africa of wealth and resources, to Adolf Hitler and fascists crushing socialist uprisings. European people are products of capitalism, ultimate forms of alienation and the destruction their culture wrecks on the world is tantamount to it.

If the world is to cease to be capitalist we must first realize the inevitable nature of capitalist Europe and seek to destroy the continent and the European people in it.

There are no good Europeans except the dead ones.

and plus, if a socialist gov't came to power in the US, I'm pretty sure it would likely aid revolutionaries in other countries as well

how is this not idpol? literaly reactionary tier
this reaks of cointelpro dividing tactics

Eastern and southern Europe are fine, it's mainly just the Germans, French and Anglos which need to be exterminated.

Kill them all, every last one. I couldn't give a fuck about the revolution, just want revenge.

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God this board is shit now. This is leftism?
Once again OP proves to be a massive faggot

t. O'Murphy McIrish
Hibernian Internet Defense Force go.

We need Best Korea to save us from ourselves. By dropping hot, sticky loads of nuclear fury all over us.

If USA doesn't elicit a massive amount of butthurt, you're either not a leftist, or know very little about USA.

>>>/leftpol/

The bourgeoisie elicit a massive amount of butthurt, the key players of which happen to mainly reside in America. American proles are comrades.

Plenty of petite-bourgeoisie and class traitors, too. It's the same butthurt that Nazi Germany elicits, and yet Germany is still here. The process of pork removal, until its halal will just hurt. A lot. it's not going to get done in one Katyn, or ten.

America probably will face serious economic problems in the next decade or two, and socialism will grow more popular but I just don't see them having a revolution.

Just take down the electric grid for 24+ hours and you're done.

you probably see a small gubberment successions before a socialist revolution though

You meant to say "neoliberal dictatorship with perma martial law". 55% voter turn out, approval of congress lower than approval of herpes. 42% of Americans not aligning with either party. And money no longer buys elections. 42% of millennials approve of capitalism while 44% approve of socialism, and 7% of communism. It wouldn't take much to shatter the illusion of peaceful legality of a parliamentary democracy.

The global financial system is a bubble upon bubble. We're overdue for a massive recession that makes The Great Depression look like child's play. And times of economic crisis are times of ideological crisis. How many vote Democrat while thumbing their nose? How many are stuck thinking that capitalism is as good as it gets because USSR fell and USA didn't?

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There's a difference between hating the USA and wanting to kill millions of proles who had the misfortune of being born there. I swear half the posters here are only aligned with the left because reactionaries like burgerland at the moment.

This board is becoming more like Pol everyday. Replace Americans with Jewish.

Stop acting like a fucking victim american idiot

Could you atleast spare me?

I'm not American faggot.

Then stop bonding with the enemy you class traitor

We ain't gonna kill you, we just won't let you go anywhere else

It's allright, they will habe civil war soon, 9 years of Trump will generate that. The mass shootings on the rise, and more violent than ever.
Hopefully they will do that on themselves.

Are you a ☭TANKIE☭ by chance?

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Americans are not trustworthy user…how can we be sure if they're friendly. Their government spy on elected leaders of NATO countries, supposedely allies. Their population hails Obama, a vicious sadistic mirderer as a perfect human being. Can we really trust americans?

Yes. But that's because the Soviet Union missed the window when reducing USA to nuclear ash was the correct response, i.e. after Operation Condor. It's been a long time since then.

9?

You realize that would also kill the entire Soviet Union AND the rest of the planet

Do you get all your information on the US from memes?

No. I'm a M-L who thinks that Stalin was the greatest leader since Caesar, but I'm against the czech and hungarian repression.
I just hate america. I'm anti-american. I do not belive that chinese or russian hegemony would be better (I don't belive their are possible either tho) I just think that the US are the greatest failuire in human history, I do stand against everything that the US rappresent.

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They aren't.

They are. You guys are the lowest of the low and anyone who isn't a massive newfag is ashamed of being a burger on this board.
Americanism is cultural barbarism.
thecharnelhouse.org/2017/08/28/american-thought-from-theoretical-barbarism-to-intellectual-decadence/

Oh so your from reddit thanks for telling me.

You can't even read past the title of articles.

You're absolutely right. When it's commonplace for people to have so little understanding of actual words they use when talking about politics, (i.e. liberals are leftists, kids who just want to afford their education or parent who want to afford health care are socialists, berniecrats are communists, etc.) you're fucked. It's a problem with society and culture at that point and you'll need a miracle or two to get that shit unfucked. Basically AMERICAN """"EDUCATION""'"" did its job at making multiple generations of politically illiterate and historically ignorant consumer proles who are only going to help prop up the system so it can work for a few more generations.

What do you mean?

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Hey if the shoe fits.

Did I mention anti imperialism somewhere? My despise of america has nationalist elements in it.
There is nothing contradictory in what I said

So you admit you're a nationalist. Holla Forums would be a better fit for you.

What the fuck

Nationalism is not right wing only, Dear reddit

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France is literally the birth place of neoliberalism. Look it up.

wew lads, y'all muthafukkas need Stirner.

The amount of time and effort and blood and treasure required to house train americunts is simply too high a price for such a paltry return

And Italy birthed fascism.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_socialist_movement_in_the_United_States

CTRL + F "Socialist" "Farmer–Labor"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_third_party_performances_in_United_States_elections

No, intellectually it was America and the first Neolib elected government was in the UK.

But we will end our neoliberal legacy soon, soooon.

Eh Farmer-Labour were socdems.

My bad. It's hard to tell with so little available info I could find on that party.

I'm just shooting the shit m8. You can't pin neoliberalism down to a single country, least of all America because it didn't take off there until after the war, but the first neoliberal collective was organized in Paris in the 30's and most of the early intellectuals were from Western Yurop. Read this book.

shit thread. I suggest you kys. if you truly believe in "workers of the world unite" that means Americans too.

SAGED for OP being a massive faggot. pic related.

sage negated :^)

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Don't trust Americans. Any form of "socialism" that comes out of the US will be socialism in name only, and Americans will demand that socialism, a movement which is supposed to be international, adhere to stupid spooks that only they care about. American imperialism will continue under a "socialist" USA in much the same way as Russian imperialism did under the USSR, and like the USSR, they'll betray actual socialists at the drop of a hat. Americans don't care about socialism and never will. They only care about stamping out any dissent and any resistance to their relentless greed. Americans hate freedom, Americans hate the poor and unfortunate, Americans hate facts, and they'll bring all that baggage with them if you let them into the international workers' movement, and twist the movement into something exactly the opposite of what it was supposed to stand for, just as they've done to religions, songs and social movements of the past. Don't let that happen.

US invaded Canada once. Canadian burthurt will never pass.

Marx btfo, workers of the world divide.

these are Holla Forumsposters mostly, hiding their "power level" is not possible anymore in the terminal stage of brain cancer

Whether they are revisionist of Marxist theory or not is irrelevant in this case, as they are putting forth an opinion/stance on nationalism/patriotism's relation to being a Marxist, so unless you can respond clearly and concisely with why the positions here noted are in direct conflict with Marxist theory itself and not just a "muh b-bourgeois invention x(", then to note them being revisionist is tantamount to ad hominem, and doesn't really do anything for you.

Well as funny as a ML who dismisses revisionism is, I will judge your quotes based on their content without regard to Juche or Marksucc. Tito disparages your argument in the second parapgraph by decrying National Egoism and National Chauvinism as negative, which your nationalist dislike of burgerland is. Kim Jong Il supports internationalism as cooperation and mutual aid with nationalism being the focus on one's country and nation, not the national chauvinism decried by Tito. More evidence that again you didn't read and blindly assumed it was in support of your Holla Forums-like chauvinism.

Did I ever talk about the nature of my nationalism anywhere? Is more similar to the north korean one more than anything else. Tito was criticizing those two specific type of nationalism, and he talked about "socialist patriotism" that is nationalism that doesn't sound like nationalism.
Not all M-L are dogmatic anti revisionist. I can agree with some stuff and discart other shit

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If America is gone, your problems will still exist, and you will die anyways. What's the point of getting angry at the most entertaining show on Earth? And don't act like you're not a part of it.

I'd rather hear from people across the globe actually effected by American and European economic influence. I'd rather listen to someone from Central or South America than I would ever listen to a Chav say

America is like makin' me furious. It's fuckin' trump, ya knar. Look at them, they hav pedophiles, when was the last time us had that? ther corruptin'

And then Tito undercuts your argument in the very image you posted, same as the Ross Wolfe article. Did you even bother to read either before posting or are you trying to confirm the meme that MLs don't read.

National egoism doesn't include internationalism, which I do.
And there is nothing chauvinistic in avoiding and reconizing the impossibility of a revolution in the most anti communist and genocidal country in history.
You are projecting a lot here. Nothing that I posted goes against what I said.

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well, here is the opinion of a colombian then, FUCK AMERICA, those imperialist pigs have only brought destruction, my goverment does everything the us tells it to, partly because there is no single person with balls in this fucking shithole, but partly because the us has colombia in their pocket, so if the bugers order my goverment to kill people, the goverment does it, here have an example
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banana_massacre

And I would agree with you far more than any fucking European talking about how America is ruining them. You deserve every ounce of hatred you have for America. All these Western European yuppies just infuriate me because they have never felt the long term effects of the American intervention and the cold war.

Oh, I didn't realize you weren't living under the influence of capitalism yourself OP! Where would you happen to be located?

Says who you fucking barbarian cunt? My country was forced to join NATO, it was either joining or a regime change, now there's a military base where the soldeirs payed by your taxes dollars rape the female locals. Later the CIA also supported the radical centrists to instal shitty liberal democracy, after the seeds for the socialist revolution had ben planted, but you fucked rip them apart.
Besides your garbage capitalist culture is corrupting and destroying our national identity. I infuriate you? Who cares, when ww3 starts i'll be on whatever sides is fighting you turds.

Look. I'm half south korean and italian. They did all kind of shit in SK and the only reason there is no socialism in italy is because the CIA helped the mafia to regain power after the fascist regime as long as it keept the socialist away. I say fuck america, I deserve to say fuck america. Everyone should say it.

That was as much of your state's fault as it was any others. Do you really think the public has a say in any of this? Democratic or not, you have to be naive to do this Oppression Olympics when you live in Western Europe. There are men, women, children, and infants dying because of the ramifications of Cold War policy and all you Western Europeans can complain about is capitalism not going your way when it comes down to it. Nobody cares about them, you care for yourselves.

Hide behind nationalism all you want, at the end of the day you are just as much a collaborator as the US if you lived in Western Europe. The nation that elected Thatcher will never have my support either.

The CIA is literally every person and the public has control over the CIA, NSA, DHS, all of it. Transparent and controllable for a long time now.

Look, nobody here is happy about this. I can promise you most of America right now, hates America. Inside America.

America is the most powerful country in the world. You cant kill all americans without them taking most of humanity with them. This is why cold war never turned hot. The revolution must happen there and all other countries will follow.

burger here, most people hate the government but have been so heavily propagandized they don't see socialism as the solution and capitalism as the cause.

That's a retarded view thay can only come from getting your information from memes or television shows. By this logic we should write off all of western Europe for historically engaging in imperialism, giving rise to fascism, repression of socialists, the treatment of gypsies and jews, and the current trend towards national chauvinism when faced with a few sand niggers fleeing a mess the euros helped burgerland cause.

If you're basing your allegiance in a hypothetical war solely on opposition to one country that may not even exist by the time it breaks out, then you don't belong on this board.

The younger ones have been turning against capitalism and boomers are going into retirement. A leftist movement gaining traction isn't out of the realm of possibility, assuming autism can be held in check.

Nice identity politics cointelpro ;)
sage

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