What happened to this board?

okay i guess not, anyways
objective board quality does not exist, the board lives in the tides of Holla Forumsyps and braindead socialists/anarchists. there are good days and bad days like anything else.

Wat?

Chill bro, everyone's out partying for the October Revolution, or hung over from said party.

The board was already pretty bad before the drama. Speed went down and 90% was Holla Forums bait, gorilla posting or "tfw no gf".

Trying to make Holla Forums popular was a mistake. Shilling this board has only resulted in a flood of Holla Forumstards and Reddit libs who aren't well-read and keep perpetuating bait and shitpost threads.

Newfags constantly going off about the USSR is what ticked off the internet-MLs and caused all this drama in the first place.

BO is a retard who can't fend off shitposting or raids, in addition instead if arguments telling someone to read an author has become dominant so theory or debate threads have been uprooted for commie9k shit.

Newfags are ML redditors.

We have to stand strong, lads. I don't want this place to die ;_;

What's the"Xir drama"? What did I miss?

This is an image board, it's aplace to vent frustrations. If you want to discuss theory there's lots of better places for that.
Here…is to shitpost and be a Stalinist apologist because i want to release my anger eveytime i see retradation on the internet.

Saying the USSR wasn't socialist is fucking retarded. This opinion wasn't even remotely popular until the redditors came flooding in.

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Can you really not see why people would want to distance themselves from collectivization, failed economic policies, and states that eventually succumbed to economic liberalization? Really?

BO found it more important to wordfilter Rojavä than get the flags or old wordfilters back

you mean Catalonia, the Paris Commune, and most likely Rojava?
no, I don't.
its failure had little to do with economic policy anyway.

Do you not see the hypocrisy in insisting that people support the USSR (which absolutely had theoretical and practical deficiencies) while being highly critical of non-ML leftist states (which also probably have theoretical deficiencies if I'm being honest)
LMAO

Mods be playin games like setting up a lefty-r9k thread then changing their mind. Would like if they committed to an idea

They took away flags, they started banning too many people, they decylced popular threads. Now they are putting flags back up. I appreciate the mods and what they do, but this instability and Holla Forums paranoia is shit for the board.

OP here

flags are back what the fuggg :DDD

Such as? Genuinely curious

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Did the BO leave yet?

Venting is nice, but discussing theory should be a part of a leftist board. Instead we get Bordiga memes and copypasta.

Be that as it may, the recent MLs stink of reddit.

Nothing. Reddit spaces are all either idpol libs, or ultraleft faggots who treat Marx as eschatology. Would you rather talk about the evils of white men or the Rapture totally spontaneous workers' revolution which will definitely happen?

I'm ML and in theory I would like having some more ML's on here. This board has been dominated by anarchists and left communists ever since I got here. But the recent wave of new ML posters is clearly a bunch of people who just got here from r/communism, r/FULLDISCOURSE or some other horrible place, and have no familiarity with chans/image boards.

I came here from Holla Forums.

People have been saying this for a good two years now while the number of people posting has actually gone up. Getting rather boring now.

I'd like more decent MLs as well, if only as a counter balance to the memechinites ir bordigacucks. I miss the days when we had some debates but these days it's just "anargiddes" or "gommodity broduktion".

At this point there's little difference between Holla Forums and reddit.

Leftcoms and BO

fuck off back to Holla Forums you worthless d//c class cuck

yay

lol newfag thinks his opinion's worth anything, how cute

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i feel like the disappearance of flags has legitimately let Holla Forums leak in to some degree, or otherwise enabled shittier posting.

serious discussion has a valid place
while i'm too lazy for any bookclub stuff, ad-hoc theoretical discussion is fun.

the number of people using 4chan has also been on a continual upward trend
nonetheless this undoubtedly correlated with it's death in terms of being anything other than an argument for the existence of a new stasi with the power of summary execution.

Quality has been falling constantly since the election in the USA.

I left because after a while you start to see the same threads over and over and there was a point where I only kept coming because of the catalonian drama. To be honest, anonimity is nice but imageboards kinda suck, they are addictive and not really time effective.

The flaccid non-manliness of >>/marx/ should serve as some sort of indication.

I know what you mean dude. I wish I could stop wasting so much time here but it's kinda hard for some reason.

Is the rojava filter still on?

doesn't seem like it. rojava over a dozen US military bases in Syria rojava.

what?

Alrigth, so why pee gee still filters to over a dozen US military bases in Syria.

I mean when you want to literally change the workings of the world for the better, and probably feel alienated in your labour. Can one really blame those addicted to having at least some sort of social interaction on a topic they care about? I mean all I used to do was shitpost about vidya (barely) and constantly lurk sites.

oh so it still there, nice.

All the shit filters are back. Board kulak added them in earlier today.

Rojava used to filter to "over a dozen US military bases in Syria" as well. Now it's just Y.P.G it seems.

relatively new to Holla Forums, what is it i missed out on?

Wrong.
8ch.net/settings.php?board=leftypol

The board before BO flooded it with reddit t*nkies.

Political Ideology Catgirls

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there's been a notable leftcom bloc arguing that for years
'taylorist social democracy at gunpoint' is what one of 'em used to call the SU
I liked that leftcomposter, they had quality arguments based on theory and history imo

testing rojava

TL;DR lefties hate freedom of speech(USER NEVER EXISTED)

BO fucked it up you need two spaces over a dozen US military bases in Syria

It is okay to spend some time on imageboards talking about your interests and hobbies, but you need to keep in mind that you won't miss anything if you don't come in a while or don't check a mediocre thread every 5 minutes. That for me is the healthier way to approach this type of format, instead of spending various hours a day refreshing ten threads to see if someone responds, just come, comment if you feel like it and go. Maybe come back a couple hours after to check the thread and see if you have some (you)s, but the thing about imageboards is that they have more information appearing faster than you can possibly read.

Please note that this board is infinitely better than Holla Forums, but some of the things in there are global to all imageboards.

This. Leave the internet, nothing good can come from this place.

You mean that Bordigist? Yeah, he was alright I guess. But most posters who use the Leftcom flag these days are just absolute brainlets.

Our BO has spergouts with precise regularity. Frankly, this was the mildest one I've seen since I've been here.

Newfag liberals who think they're real leftists invaded just as BO sperged out. This gave MLs (the best posters) a bad name and now they've been rapidly outnumbered and become a boogeyman for the new Reddit liberals. Easy to see given how the opinion of Stalin and the ussr has rapidly fallen here.

I think he was yea, an Italian leftcom. Liked verbose quotes and wall-of-text posts.

He was well-versed in his ideology, and wasn't armchair at all. I miss him, he even made some good OC. Most Leftcoms we have now are idiots.

I really liked that guy too (I'm pretty sure I know the poster you're talking about), even though I'm ML and often disagreed with him.

You're projecting.
People here have always been critical of the USSR. MLs, more than other tendencies, need a boogeyman. Leftcoms, ancoms, comunalists, market socialists, and socdems have all more or less interchangeably been blamed for this board's supposed "invasions" and subsequent shittyness. Have you maybe considered that maybe the board is mostly fine, and that the autistic B.O. is responsible for most of the shittyness?

This is the sort of cyclical behaviour that has made ML's receive such hostile treatment. Next up: ML's push for a purge liberals but sweep up several other groups in the process.

too many Holla Forumseddit refugees.

What the fuck are you talking about? Seriously, you are just pulling this out of your ass.

New leftypol is dumb as rocks.

I used to visit the board regularly two years ago or so.

I know it sounds edgy but I grew out of internet politics.I used to be frustrated and felt weak all the time and I used politics as a way of…externalising those frustrations onto the world.

I think Marxism provides a useful way of viewing labour and how capitalism functions.But It's really soulles and limited.

It really makes sense to me now why people bash Jung whenever he's mentioned on here and call him pseudo-intellectual and a nutcase while parroting Lacan.Many of you guys seem very disinterested in cultural critique if it doesn't have keywords like : "false conscioussness, labour, capitalism, etc."

It's also really boring that whenever the discussion leads to jewish elites, it's always the same "the capitalists are all the same, bla, bla.It doesn't matter that he's a jew, african, asian or anything else for that matter."–which is simply untrue.It does matter.People have much closer bonds to eachother than just "being working class ".Jewish burgeoise are very different to Christian ones:so are intellectuals and average citizens.

You guys seem to discard religion, culture, common myths, etc.

I think what I'm trying to say is that I wasn't conpletely interested in understanding myself and the world around me.

If you're young like me(under 25) and just feel that something's not right then I recommend you abandon political ideologies for a while.

I know Jordan Peterson is a profane and unholly meme around here but if you haven't checked him out in good spirit, you definetly should.

Take the glasses of.
Sry if anything here sounded dumb or condescending.I have to sleep.

is this bait ? 8.5/10
Lacan is really a meme btw, just like Jung

No.It's not.I'm just very tired but cannot sleep .This predicament made me have cringy moments of older me so I naturally decided to pay leftypol a visit after quite some time(Last time I was here was probably before cheetoboi had even won the election)

You should read Jung.He's not a meme.He is absolutely fucking BASED imo.Don't call something a meme because you've heard folk tales of it being a meme.

In fact, you could not get a more boring reading recommandation than on Holla Forums anywhere on the chans.I tought I was starting to think I didn't enjoy reading at all when I browsed this place on a daily basis.

Apparently it seems that Das Kapital, State and Revolution and obscure Bordiga essays are not exactly my taste.I mean…It's just sooo fucking boring and it's like you get deeper and deeper and deeper and you gain nothing from it most of the time.So when you come back to leftypol and complain about it they call you a brainlet(kinda true tbh :/) and they recommend even more arduous reading lists.

Eh.I just don't want any more people to go trough what I've been trough.
Same goes for Holla Forumsacks who watch endless webms of barbaric migrants jumping border fences with synthwave music in the backround.Occasionally they'll take a break to jerk off and regret it immediately after splurting smelly baby gravy all over themselves.Then the varg-posting begins.

But I do feel much closer to right-wingers.Holla Forums really has a much deeper understanding of how capitalism controls people even tough they do not call it capitalism.Pornography is a big topic and they do understand that it's made to keep men subduded and docile.If you guys really want a communist revolution in the west you should do everything that you can to outlaw internet pornography.It's really harrowing to even go into detail, to explain how normal it is for men today to be jerking off.

Slavery.Mass slavery trough the corruption of sexual passion.The strongest passion.I'm guessing you're expecting zSCIENCE to back it up.The science is there but you just need to look within yourself to know why internet fashies feel they way they feel about the modern world.
The world is sick.Very, very sick.

I feel like such a hypocrite typing this.Because I am sick.And so are most people on here.I'm sure of it.
I'm guessing you think the great worker's revolution is going to cure us…no?

Ah but you can always laugh at yourself after all.I hope I never lose that.

See you Holla Forums.But hopefully not.

I meant to say *jerking off to digital pornography*.

Jerking off with purerly mental pornography is a self-regulated mechanism methinks.

Bye.

wow this proves these walls of text are probably genuine
reads just like someone who likes Jung and his drooling acolytes and prefers 'inspirational' to 'informational'.

common sentiment amongst congenital idiots.
this is pathetic. what are you, 14?

(I'm new to this board)

That is an unusual progression, from Marx to Jordan Peterson. I think you have not gone deep enough into Marxism. A lot of people on this board seem to be fairly orthodox Marxists and are down on postmodernism but critical theory goes way beyond that level, and I think it utterly annihilates orthodox Marxism as well as Jungianism and Jordan Peterson. Jordan Peterson is 95% talking out of his ass you know.

I do agree that we should be able to talk about the character of Jewish elites versus other elites. It does matter, and I think that Jewish culture is intertwined with the history of radical leftism in a way that hasn't been fully explored. At the same time, I am wary of the draw of anti-semitism in terms of the convenience of replacing something really abstract like capital with an actual group of people you can scapegoat.

Capitalism does control people in ways that orthodox Marxism and even critical theory do not explain. I think that Holla Forums and the like are touching on new ways the system is oppressing people, for example the expectation of having sexual partners and the disappointment of that with regards to incels. Although their reaction to it is far from mature to say the least.

So don't expect Holla Forums to give you all the answers, but right-wing reaction is and has always been anti-intellectual.

doubt.mkv

it was state capitalist

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I agree that to destroy capital and the state we also have to destroy religion, culture, and national identity.

yea, to spam blacked porn

You need to go back to wherever you came from. Seriously. Unironically get the fuck out of here

Yes you are, you don't even know what marxism even is.

Background on this? I know nothing about it.
I just came back here today, and I've been trying to piece together why everything is shit now. It feels like all the old fags left.

People have been saying the board is dead and has lost all its quality every month since it has had 200-300 members. They have almost always also been anons who have come here for quality content they could make themselves, but don't, then complain that the board is devoid of it.

BO put in some wordfilters people didn't like and generally favoured ☭TANKIE☭s whilst putting off reuploading flags for no reason. Some people then decided to make a new board called /leftpol/.

There is no reason to put effort into this place. Why try to create long running threads if you have to be liked by the BO get cyclical. Why discuss with MLs when you cant even touch their holy grail of anti imperialism without getting banned and having to wait to get unbanned by reasonable mods. BO killed the only thing that made leftypol better than any other place for leftists online, not enforcing sectarianism. Municipalism is on the uptick everywhere and related ideologies should be discussed but the complete dissolution of discussion into autistic meltdowns doesnt make that enjoyable. Discussions where allways full of bait, shitposting ect. but with BO activly interfering its just exhausting.

I know what it is, and I am supportive of it while being critical. Name any well-known Marxist, is there is a single example where they haven't challenged the Marxist orthodoxy of their time in some important way?

>>>Holla Forums