Ideology poll thread

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This place has devolved into complete nonsense tbh.

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As the leftcom problem has grown the post quality and board quality has gone down. Not a coincidence in any way

leftcoms arent the problem m8

you are

No u

I miss those Ancoms and ML days, with the increase of leftcoms this board is becoming worse and worse

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Seems they are

leftypol was an anarchist board with a leftcom presence and literally everyone made fun of stalinists for being illiterates

these days you miss never existed, newfag

Lmao LEFTCOM GANG is on top

pretty sad if you ask me

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Totally wrong mate stop lying, this was since the start a board were ancoms and MLs used to be , the leftcom meme came later, also all the first Volunteers were MLs, and the Xir is so.
Seriousely I love leftcoms in other platforms but the majority that come around here are geting down the board quality, day by day

literal delusions, leftypol was an anarchist board with a lot of ML's, we used to also have more mutualists and crypto anarchist stuff, a much broader range of ideologies, we had the stirner phase which segued into the communalism phase and that was probably the boards peak right in-between them, then we have the leftcom phase right now.

Right now is what happens when leftcoms are numerous

also leftcoms have basically forced themselves in here from /r/ultraleft which is why the reddit tier posting increased 10 fold, and yeh, forcing is what they do, such as this meme which literally nobody but the people trying to force it use

(they are probably brigading this poll from their shitty discord)

That's correct, see Muke. Once he decided to start reading Leftcoms bombarded him with their stuff and now he's nothing but a crypto-Leftcom.

like 3, the board had more ansynds

no that would have been during the read bordiga meme stage

a long damn time ago

he did a good job of it

we used to have a broader range nonetheless there was the nihilist poster and a couple post leftists

that other forced meme which still continues, granted right now there is less leftcom bs than a month or 2 ago, but the board as it stands is how they shaped it with help from retardo mods, they blame isn't all on them but its a lot on them. It got to the stage where unless you are suggesting instant and complete value abolition you are just a capitalist and they autistic ally shat this narrow view over everything until the good posters fucked off

Honestly the biggest reason that leftcoms are getting so big on this board is the constant butthurt ☭TANKIE☭⁠s making threads shitting on leftcoms and getting btfo'd in them. This is the best advertising they could possibly have done for leftcommunism tbh

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They literally never beat anyone out, they just schreech slogans and "oppurtunist" over and over again, tell you read something without explaining why, then drop their flag and post "why have only leftcoms read marx" "why do only leftcoms read" and false flag each others posts to bump them up. It is SAD. They literally ruined this board so they could feel superior I fucking hate them

its like arguing with relegious people, you give them an actual logical argument based in the facts of history and they will just copypasta some dogma

Lmao, except that's wrong, bitch.
The board owner ruined this board just so they could feel superior tbh. They got rid of flags and added a worldfilter because they were so consistently getting btfo'd by non-MLs. The assmad ☭TANKIE☭s are the ones ruining this board. They want to be above criticism, even though they criticize everyone else.

Calling your opponents "religeous" for disagreeing with you is some r/atheism shit fam.

it really isn't, they never answer the question at hand, they never have a coherent and clear answer to anything, they never provide any actual historical examples of any of their ideas in practice. Push comes to shove the Bordigists are just ☭TANKIE☭s with no grip on reality or sense of pragmatism, the communisers are just sheer idealists again with no conception of actual reality, more interested in talking about how the ideal revolution would happen than how an actual revolution on planet earth would happen.

i did say it was both of them, but for exactly the same reasons, they think their ideology is objectively correct and so they can push it in places where it isn't wanted.

the Xir is really the only person this applies to, half the mods are anarchists

no its just the facts, they don't have reasoned debates, you either accept the leftcom doctrine or you haven't read/are an opportunist/capitalist, they never present reasons for this, they just shout it

also for how much they like to post Dauve his body of work is like a few pamphlets and some really, really shitty essays

leftcommunism is for hipsters who have no intention of ever actual revolutionising the mode of production

t. Christian communist
you are correct tho

Nah christcommie is actually good to talk to and actually rarely talks about Christ stuff

web.archive.org/web/20170908020652/https://8ch.net/leftypol/res/2018404.html

The opposite is true. MLs just screech the word "infantile" over and over without making any actual arguments

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Fucking scum

Reading through the thread now, the leftcoms aren't making any extraordinary claims and the tank⁠ies are screeching about how the USSR was a perfect worker's paradise that dindu nuffin wrong.

Tankies gonna tank, I'm an anarchist, you suggest literally any kind of practical solution or tactic and they screech oppurtunist or utopian, these words are much more common than infantile

This is the worst thing about you people, the autofelattio you think others don't notice "oh yeh I'm totally not a leftcom but leftcoms are so smart"

What auto fellatio? Point out where I'm praising myself in this thread, faggot. You're full of shit.

And yet leftcoms get called crypto-anarchists by tank⁠ies for suggesting that communization would be better than a vanguardist revolution because it consists of concrete actions that push society towards communism

lol leftcoms talking about concrete action show me one example of this and I will take back everything I have ever said about them

Have you read any communisation theory? Because most of what communisation theory is about is evaluating forms of organization from a Marxian perspective. Communisation theory definitely has a very insurrectionaist bent. Honestly, it seems like you've got a bit of an irrational hatred of leftcoms.

what? here? you're kidding right?

Leftcom praxis ( don't participate in parliament, don't get involved in reactionary trade unions, organic centralism) is shit but their theory is pretty good.

shit poll unsubscribed and disliked

I just like elections fam

I've Read Dauve. Invisible Comittee, some other random articles

NATIONAL TROTSKYISM GANG

Is the poll too soon to call, or did half the Anarchist around here turn into Leftcoms?

There was only one retarded black flag that fell for the google Bookchin meme. It was pretty much that user, over a dozen US military bases in Syria posters and market socialists. And the Leftcom influence came before, considering that the "google Bookchin" meme was a cheap imitation of that shitty "Read Bordiga meme". Initially it was just a handful of them, and the tendency's influence on the board grew as they were often the only ones to keep on BTFO the market socialists, since the initial leftcom posters actually had decent knowledge of Marx.

r/atheism are just Feuerbachians who haven't realized they got BTFO over a century ago

If there was anyone thing that ruined this boards quality, it was the e-celeb wannabes and the mindless lackeys they attracted here. The worst "tendency" will always be the Nazbols, seeing as they're either dumb Holla Forumsposters who just accepted socialism but are unwilling to drop their stupid reactionary views, or even dumber posters on here who are pretending it's a legitimate ideology to attract /polposters

Need a non sectarian option. I have my preferences but I would gladly take any tendency over the Neoliberal hell that is modern America.

agree, i have a soft spot for Asserism but i refuse to bring it up or express those views now because of those faggots

totally fucking delusional
Yup, completely and totally delusional. Way to re write history to fit your autism, classic leftcom departure from reality

The Bordiga meme was literally an imitation of the bookchin meme lol what a faggot why do leftcom always put a stick in their own front wheel?

Pretty sure I am the black flag you leftcom scum got beaten out by in every single thread and I never even was a communalist, was always into more classical types of anarchism. This post is so salty lol.

Yup and notice how shit the board has got?

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No Egoist-Posadism with Nazbol characteristics

I'm a syndicalist you idiot, but I agree with Lenin's critique of left communists. I don't consider left-communists to be serious revolutionaries. They are not interested in existing socialism. They are not interested in waging class warfare. They are not interested in the real movement which abolishes the present state of things. They are interested in sectarian infighting, unreachable standards, and pseudointellectualism.

Tanky larpers aren't any better, just to be clear.

All is right once again :-)

leftcom just jumped up to 1rst place again.

Why include Anarcho-Capitalism?

nigga…

I'm not sure what to choose if I'm a nationalist with socialist tendencies
I guess I will just stay with socialist

Leftcoms have admitted before that they systematically rig these polls.

Oh wtf. Flags are back?

BO completely and utterly BTFO

we takin over

Im disappointed

oh fuck say hello to the flags

I don't know where to post this so I'm doing it here, /leftytrash/ is dead
What's my fucking ideology? Is there a single place I can post on the internet and feel belonging to it? I think I sympathize with Holla Forums most but even then I doubt that at times. I might be a fascist of some sort but Holla Forums is too obsessed with race retardation and I like how Holla Forums would rather discuss politics theoretical and practical rather than gawk at some internet furries to doomsay or theorize about the illuminati.

/liberty/ looks like spooked motherfuckers grovelling to their bossbull overlords

Neck yourself, retard

THIS

These, the leftcoms are constantly sucking each other's dicks in the most odious manner to make it appear as if they are popular and this swayed the weak minded board trend bandwagon types because they kept forcing "leftcoms are the only ones to have read Marx" a sickening amount of times

The amount of butthurt an irrelevant branch of communist thought causes is hilarious.

This is true and literally no other tendency on this board does this, they just argue their point with the other factions, only leftcoms spend time commenting on their comrades with
In the most transparent way

At this point you just need to put on the Leftcom flag, don't make the bait too obvious, and you could claim the most outrageous stuff about Marxism and people would legitimately believe it.

Just write a long-winded post, format it with effort, post links to some books, use a lot of this and a a lot of that, and you could sell anything.

tbf youre not very leftcom is youre voting

Every time I see a post starting with "can a Leftcom please explain to me" I cringe.

They are all painfully arrogant and autistic and never argue in good faith and actively subverted the board and all for theory which has 0 revolutionary potential. Historically the Italian communist party I.e Bordiga broke up the popular front with their autism.

It is precisely their irrelevance which is irritating, they pick the most obscure brand of commie thought for hipster cred and then force meme it in into relevance.

It is irrelevant for a reason I.e the working class has never ever at any point in history adopted left communist ideas, organic centralism, communisation, because these ideas simply don't cohere to reality (council com is okay but again never been adopted)

Hmmmm
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directly contradicts this
How did an irrelevant group with no sway with the working class single handedly break up the popular front if they didn't have influence among the proletariat?

Bordiga led the Italian communist party yes. It was probably the least effective communist party in Europe. It failed to capture the popular imagination of the working class the proof is in the fact their was no Italian recolutiobu

Because the popular front was also more than just the Italian communist party but they were the ones who instigated the break up, it wasn't the largest faction of this front, but in typical leftcom style they didn't just leave but sabotaged

Honestly the leftcom praise that you're all calling autofellatio is mostly due to the over-the-top hate that leftcoms get on here. I used to be one of those "wow I'm an anarchist, but leftcoms are the least shitty Marxists on Holla Forums" people and now I'm a leftcom. The leftcom hate isn't working, so stop being autistic whenever it gets mentioned and start treating it like you do every other tendency.

Idealist nonsense. The Russian revolution didn't happen because the Bolsheviks captured everybody's imagination.

Where was the sabotage?

r8 me comrades

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So you went from anarchist to crypto-anarchist.

You are the reason we can't have nice things.

Good start but you need to be more globalist.

Socialism can't really happen as long as there are capitalist powers around to try to cripple it.

Putting aside the ancom/ML/leftcom drama, look at these shits:
What does that even mean?
"haha, i like the menes :DD"
It's not even a political position.
aka "capitalist socialism"
Democratic Cops of America
A mixture of "haha, memes" and real anti-semites.
Neo-liberals thinking they are leftists.

% of revolutionary (and non-meme) communists support having a state:
41%

% of revolutionary (and non-meme) communists against the state:
28%

Ommitted meme, under 1%, non-revolutionary and inconsistent positions:
32%

Around 70% of the board is pro-rev and non-meme, 86% with memes taken into account. Some leftcoms might be against the state (probably should have voted council-com), but most of them are pro-state.

If you are in this category and have been using leftypol for more than a year you should feel bad.

Left-com is meme tier it's literally meaningless.

I tried to be as non-biased as I could. Take it up against them, not me.

Communism is inherently anti-state. Please read a book.

oh wow, I'm eternally BTFO

Maybe communists should read those books because they are certainly not anti-state.

Which books are those?

Ancom back at its rightful place on top non stop, but tbh a three way split is probably best for the conversation

flags were a mistake

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Socialist Yugoslavia mixed up with hereditary monarchy.

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I don't see why this thread was bumplocked, so I'm gonna restore it.

thanks

watt is this,,. 感じ。。。
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I don't think it has to do anything with the flags coming back. It's either a minor pol thread encouraging their posters to modify the poll, or some lefty-memester doing the same on facebook/discord who thinks that nazbol is still dank.

I legitimately can't tell if the nazibol entries are memers or Holla Forumsyps.

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Just hit that Nazbol button

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