Why the fuck there still isn't a thread about the FUCKING CENTENARY OF OCTOBER'S REVOLUTION?
The unique aceptable excuse of this thread missing is that you're all party hard with your friends right now.
CELEBRATE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Why the fuck there still isn't a thread about the FUCKING CENTENARY OF OCTOBER'S REVOLUTION?
The unique aceptable excuse of this thread missing is that you're all party hard with your friends right now.
CELEBRATE AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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Because the Soviet Union isn't a thing anymore :)
Because it failed and devolved into social-Democracy painted red
What the fuck is this attitude? Seriously, you should all gulag yourselves
Sovietic Union surely had it's big defects, but this doesn't mean it was a complete fail. Saying that all of that was shit is clearly being spooked by neoliberal propaganda and historic revisionism.
Plus we are talking about the revolution, not the regime (good or bad) that followed that. Everyone here, including anarchists, should appreciate the beauty of that wonderful moment in which the oppressed ones revolted and won against nobles and bourgoises.
LONG LIVE THE WORKERS!!
Long live the millions that rose up in the first huge victory for the working class, for the ones that struggled to overthrow capitalism, the ones that fought for their rights, for communism!!
Long live the workers that guided by Lenin and the Bolsheviks, inspired by Marx and Engels ideas, fought and triumphed to stablish a better system!!
Because today 100 years later they deserve to be recognized ,as they inspired, inspire and will inspire, the oppresed workers to rise up.
Because although 100 years later it seems capitalism is again unstopable, this remebers us that there is nothing as the force of the workers united, that there is teh possiblity for a more Fair system, were oppresion is ended.
So today comrades join, independently on your particular thoughts, because we remember the workers that struggled to achieve their goals.
I hope some day we will be able to see what they fought for.
ALL POWER TO THE SOVIETS!!
LONG LIVE THE WORKERS!!
Because it wasnt real communism
Fuck yeah comrades!
They're long past dead.
I would have made a topic but I wasn't really sure what to say. I just hope that in 50 or 100 years we have more to celebrate than this anniversary. What I do know, is that things can't go on like this.
Not real communism, literally kill yourself.
Wew fuck off I hate how much of a shithole Leftcoms and Bookchinfags have made this site. If you’re a leftcom you should at least acknowledge the fact that Bordiga at least nominally supported Lenin and the October Revolution. It’s worth celebrating even on just that basis alone.
Stop worshiping a dead state and ideology. The Soviet Union collapsed and the Marxist-Leninism in practice is just state Capitalism.
You know who else supported the october revolution?
Wall street
WHAT HAVE I BECOME
MY SWEETEST FRIEND
EVERYONE I KNOW
GOES AWAY
IN THE END
AND YOU COULD HAVE IT ALL
MY EMPIRE OF DIRT
I WILL LET YOU DOWN
I WILL MAKE YOU HURT
This is a retarded statement that has been debunked a million times, please come with some real crtitizism
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Lol I wouldn’t give a fuck if they did but there’s literally no evidence that Wall Street or the American government (which backed and invaded Russia on the side of the Whites) did.
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I feel you comrade, but some day their fight will inspire the definitve revolution.
Because as Dimitrov said:
The wheel of history will keep wheeling until the final victory of Communism
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You can keep spamming state capitalism, but that won't erase the fact that the Soviet Union was socialist.
Hooray for the communist coup. Hooray for state capitalism. Hooray for ruining the credibility of leftism.
Yes, make it a religion. What could go wrong?
hooray for the new left and the frankfurt school.
hooray for third worldism and autonomism.
hooray for wallowing in defeat.
Jesus fuckin christ this shithole
But their ideas and revolutionary gerber didn't.
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Praise be Lenin!
May today be filled with the tears of the porky and anarchist!
It was bureaucratic socialism at the very best and extremely authoritarian in some regards (the way the repressed musicians in Eastern Europe). That being said I do understand the importance of the Russian Revolution since its one of the few times in history where the proletariat seized the means of production(if only for a short time). I do think it's important understand how Marx's ideas were implemented and how they messed up. We can use the mistakes of the past to understand how to better implement workers' control of the MoP in the future or we can continue to LARP/worship 20th century ideologies
May it rise again
Keep crying anarkkkiddie.
To be fair, it wasn't authoritarian just for the sake of it, without direct control the union would've fallen much earlier due to the imperialistic forces pushing for a collapse. The soviets kept at it valiantly until it fell under the immense pressure and was corrupted and destroyed from within. Evidence is the 1996 election and the supression of the communist parties in the previous union states
You have my tachanka, comrades!
MORE DEAD TSARS
KILL PUTIN TODAY
This.
why live
It's sad that this board is so sectarian, maybe the next revolt would have happened by now if we stop complaining about anarchkidys and ☭TANKIE☭s.
Solidarity with you anarchist comrade!
Any Russian comrade can explain why the goverment is crushing every attemp to celebrate the aniversary??
Is not the CPRF organizing anything?
Shit. capitalist China is celebrating this:
telesurtv.net
Why do they keep doing this things, and then fuck over the workers and reject anything the Workers fought on 100 years ago?
Source pls? I really want to know about this
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Perhaps China is trying to avoid the collapse soviet suffered via the west by doing what companies must do in order to survive in this world, exploit the worker. Perhaps, just like how a company that doesn't run on profit will be outcompeted, China's focus is to, well, survive.
I'm being hopeful that this is the case and that the spirit of communism lingers in the hearts of the chineese. Perhaps it's just a facade.
I just hope Xi isn't bulshitting when it comes to his plans for a socialist superpower
laht.com
Cn't find any english new (but it has appeared in major Spanish newspapers)
But their deeds will live forever.
Not a fan of the USSR, but the October Revolution itself inspires me and gives me hope.
When the revolution comes, and I can only pray I live to see it, you are all my comrades.
The October revolution is much more than just the founding of the USSR, it shows us that the possibility for a revolution can become reality. It showed us that the worker can unite against capitalism. It shows us that the worker really does have more power than the capitalist. It showed us that what Marx said was ture, we are stronger than them, we don't need them, they need us. And that we can beat them.
My heart beats with my comrades from across the globe. The spirit shall never die and the fire will never fade
no it wasnt an lenin admitted so
This
kek
it wasnt eliminated
all capitalist
Sorry user redacted for ortographic reasons
Well the NEP was that you will call state capitalism, but after the 5 year plans socialism was the dominant mode of production
With the elimination of the burgeoise, the elimination of the profit motive guiding extraction of surlpus value, private property abolished, the introduction of collectivization , and the nearly eleminition of commodity production (still mantained to a certain degree in the countryside, and to exchange with capitalist countries (necesary for developing the country)
This combined with a planned economy, and workers councils guiding production, made the USSR socialist.
wait are you basically admitting marketsoc is socialist then?
where's my Wolff folder lmao
seems unlikely. Russia Today is having a huge boner over it and they're a literal government outlet.
They almost made it comrades. They were so close.
How were market forces guiding production in the USSR before 1956 after the 5 year plans?? The economy was planned
argument level: over 9000
Are you unironically claiming that you could just buy and sell factories or just own any significant MoP in the USSR?
there's still markets you dumb fuck you admitted it yourself
that's fucking capitalism
value form still exists: check
private property still exists (all privately owned by the state): check
yep, looks like capitalism
Unfortunately, the introduction of state capitalism with us is not proceeding as quickly as we would like it. For example, so far we have not had a single important concession, and without foreign capital to help develop our economy, the latter’s quick rehabilitation is inconceivable.
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lenin admitted the ussr was capitalists
stalincucks fuck right off
Exchange are markets?
with capitalist countries who's exchanges (including with you) are dictated by markets
therefore, the USSR is as much a part of market forces as any other country
how many of you dumb fucking stalinniggers forgot the whole "international" part of Marx's writings
Never change Holla Forums
top lol, go shit in a diaper leftcom
Get reading, get fit, get guns, get organized. Be prepared comrades and happy anniversary.
read marx
No, they were dictated by political decisions ,as only the central state controlled exchange with other nations (they were the ones that decided prices, wich things could be exhanged , the price …), still this was a reallly small part of the mode of production, the prodominant mode of production was socialism, and therefore the USSR can be called socialist.
This is the same argument of ancaps calling the USA not true Capitalism, or saying Britain in 1800s was not capitalist as some feudalist relation were still mantained.
Motherfucking newfags can have some celebratory reading material.
And marx would tell you that trade isn't capitalism. Trade existed long before capitalism. One person has something someone else needs, that person exchanges something of what the other person deems to be equal value. They both agree and poof, suddenly the means of production is owned by an individual? Stop being dumb. Your moneyless fairytale will never exist
Nice song mate
ALL POWER TO THE SOVIETS
Can someone with artistic skill make a lenin pepe and an anarcho pepe ree at eachother? This fucking thread is getting ridiculous
UPHOLD THE IMMORTAL SCIENCE
Anyone who talks about Lenin and call himslf a communist should at least read this book
literally capitalism
"predominant mode of production" no other mode of production can exist alongside capitalism you nigger
read marx
you have obviously not
r e a d m a r x>No, they were dictated by political decisions ,as only the central state controlled exchange with other nations (they were the ones that decided prices, wich things could be exhanged , the price …)
Is any comrade doing anything to celebrate this?
Hve some Lenin and Bolsheviks to celebrate
WE'RE COMING BUCKO.
truly you must be Marx's most valuable intellectual successor
the ussr was a capitalist entity initially held in charge of socialists (well, lenin) with intention of leading the socialist cause once the rest of the world caught up
the world never caught up and the ussr fell into less capable hands (stalin)
stalinbabbys will never accept this because theyre literally just feitishists
you spelt khrushchev wrong
nah stalin was nowhere near a capable leader
explain what he should have done with his position then.
the only thing I'll concede is he was shit at military strategy, but other than that he did the best he could with what he had.
Someone post the Russian Economy under Stalin jpeg
Well I've read a great chunk of Marx, could you please iluminate me with were Marx states that no other mode of production can exist alongside capitalism ?? Does this entail that you think, that for Marx feudalist relations were still not present in capitalist countries?
Also I was enjoying this, thought it was some kind of nice and serious discussion, please give more arguments than:
there's not supposed to be an economy under real socialism you fucking idiot
LOL this looks like a Monty Python sketch
i swelled up, thanks comrade
I'm sorry about the brain-aids, my dude.
what did he mean by this
there won't that's the point of communism and socialism
m8 if the capitalist mode of production (private property and profit motive) exist anywhere in the world then any "elimination of private property" is a lie; the property is owned by the state and any non-profit motive is controlled by external profit motives to begin with, as survival on an international is determined by other nation's bourgeoisie and their profits
no you havent
fuck off back to r/fulltriggerdism
Have a nice day today comrades.
t. anarkiddie
I thought the point of communism was to achieve and maintain a stateless society?
Ok mate whatever you like about me, but could you please at least respond to my questions before using AdHominem falacies?
exactly and the economics is the tool of the state
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lol how? as long as there's a scarcity of a resource economics are needed
but communism/socialism will bring us post-scarcity
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Hey
I know this may come as a suprise
But Marx can be wrong too
Live translation of events happening 100 years ago is here:
project1917.com
bet you think china is socialist
you have no right to shitpost like this, brainlet
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How does a coup show us anything about the workers uniting? The workers did not know that there was a "revolution" going on while the Bolsheviks grabbed power.
Why don't you back up this strange assertion and not just shitpost?
sounds utopian
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reminder that you don't even need photoshop to make fun of Holla Forumsyps
Because we Holla Forums posters are too busy making no changes in the world.
100 Years of Communism—and 100 Million Dead
The Bolshevik plague that began in Russia was the greatest catastrophe in human history.
wsj.com
Holy fuck, Murdoch's shitpost magnates need to read Bordiga.
In my city the Communist party gas organized a parade for today, Is anyone else celebrating somehow??
you are a literal retard
The quality of this board really is worse than ever
Agree, still I think we should have some kind of celebration of this event
100 years of BUT THAT WASNT REAL COMMUNISM you fucking morons
HAVE YOU ACCEPTED NEO TRUMPSUHVIKISM YET COMRADES
Capitalism is a lot more than any commodity production and private property. These two things have always existed since the emergence of the first class societies. The actual factors which define capitalism would be:
I agree
Post victims of communism
AHHAHHHHA
DAY OF THE WALL!
DAY OF THE WALL!
DAY OF THE WALL!
DAY OF THE WALL!
DAY OF THE WALL!
this is a masterpiece
Love you Russkies, but the Great October Revolution was none of that:
It was a political and economic catastrophy
It was a coup by a minority that never won an election.
Wasn't October; they were using a different calendar.
Nice one but actually, executing the tsars was not decided by Lenin or by the direction of the party, it was decided by the bolsheviks that were guarding the tsars , as the white forces approched them, they decided the only option was to kill them.
I think Lenin was actually unpleased by this as they planned to judge the tsar, and to send their heir to live as workers somewere as the Chinese communists did years later with the King
fucking Lenin, wish I could back in time and tell him to read Robespierre
They were still going to kill him 100%
That's savage.
This thread's got me hyped up, comrades! Gotta get a hold of myself before I kick down my landlord's door and shoot him in the back of the head…
DAY OF THE WALL!
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That's not the point,,
I swear I'm not a capitalist Jew and my claims are correct.
You can verify them.
Based, Comrade I understand your point
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Really makes you think.
No revolution was "real communism". If a revolution had actually achieved "real communism", none of us would be here complaining about capitalism, because we'd be living in communism.
It was socialist you moron, they never claimed they were communists United SOCIALIST Soviet Republics, athough thei wanted toa chieve communism.
Communism is a classless, monyless, stateless society.
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(someone plz convert to webm)
A society doesn't become communist the moment communists take power. You need to actually destroy capitalism. The Russians failed in that, as did everyone else. That doesn't mean we shouldn't celebrate them or be inspired by them, but we should learn from their mistakes.
Proof this is the BO?? This phto has been going around for a long time, it could be something that started as a shitpost
wasn't the Xir some black guy from New York ?
My table for tonight. Made a hard Leninade (lemon pop mixed with cranberry-pomegranate and Popper's Ice vodka drink). L'chaim!
What did they get right? They took control of a country that was already improving, derailed that and caused some of the deadliest famines in recent history, but it's alright because they sent a bunch of junk into space?
Russia was at that time being absolutely destroyed by the Germans and was ruled by a tsarist autocracy that not long ago had massacred civilians for demanding even mild reforms. Its only prospect was liberalisation and slowly going through the same development that every other capitalist state had, with all the poverty and suffering for common working people that would entail (as well as the country being torn apart and turned into a puppet state). The revolution was probably the best thing that could have happened to it. Read some history before spouting ignorant bullshit
Please give me a citation proving the tsarist regime was even half as bad as the Bolsheviks when it comes to democide.
You must be in Quebec.
Bolsheviks weren't the only leftists in the revolution.
RJ Rummel fuck off
en.wikipedia.org
Oy vey, it's another Holodomor!
Turns out that famines happened all the time in the 19th and 20th century, especially when industrialising.
Here's some capitalist famines:
en.wikipedia.org
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BTW the february revolution was triggered by a bread shortage
Ew franco-canadians
Also:
Can I get the source for this?
I am curious to look further into and see if it is worse or not
The infographic cites its sources. Just look at the links to see the stats.
TSARISTS
B
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WHITEYS ON SUICIDE WATCH
Yes.
Nice!!
Don't forget the Russian famine of 1921
user, if you want to be taken seriously, even for us… that's a stretch. It's facebook jpg tier.
Sorry, I am blind tonight apparently
You know, I would actually like to make an official leninade drink, proper recipe and shit
Could be fun
Even more fun if all ingredients are russian/communist themed
Yes, capitalism IS responsible for putting people in exposed areas and not willing to help them due to lack of profit to do so.
This problem wouldn't even exist in the first place under socialism. When the means to save people exist, socialism will do so
If you think deaths from famine under communism is the fault of communism then you’re a hypocrite if you think the same standard shouldn’t be applied to hunger under capitalist regimes.
With lemonade or soda, you could water it down by a nice amount, and you could add plenty of other good shit to it. Like vermouth or peach schnapps for added depth
Furthermore the graphic judges capitalism under the same standards that the Black Book of Communism judges Communism, and in fact is far more generous, since it doesn't count deaths due to war or state terror, and it doesn't count unborn children who "might have been born" if people hadn't died.
nigga there are lierally cities in america without clean drinking water
who's fucking fault is that
Communists?
There is a real Leninade drink, I couldn't find it anywhere.
(Eternal) Anglo Canadian here ($$$).
Just want to let you know I'd burn you in a Wallstreet Brazen Bull in the name of the Queen.
I know, but it would be dope to have one official alcoholic drink with the name.
Because a drink named Leninade that doesn't contain vodka is just disgraceful
The absolute state of Holla Forums.
Nod an argument poophead.
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As in, they were literally feudal peasants
Still not looking good for you fags.
So by this argument how is communism responsible, for deaths in famines in places were this were periodically present??
Yes, this is exactly it.
Read a book you fucking idiot. If anything the Bolsheviks were unable to keep up with the revolutionary spirit of the Working Class of Petrogad and the Soldiers/Sailors of Kronstadt.
jacobinmag.com
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Did you just copypaste that washington post article from today? lmfao
Such as the Irish potato famine, which happened in a feudalist system with heavy protectionist intervention?
This happened after the industrial revolution in Britain, which marked the rise of capitalism as a mode of production. Protectionism doesn't make it less capitalist. Read a book
yes
watched soviet movies based on Holla Forumsrades' suggestions with a tovarish
good times
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Britain was capitalist at that time and had been for decades.
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Does Ireland being treated as a colony make it any better? Do victims of imperialism somehow count less than other people? Don't you think the social system of Britain had something to do with that imperialism?
Here you go
Based user!
The victims of imperialism aren't victims of capitalism.
Read Lenin
imperialism is a part of capitalism via the demand for expanding markets
why do you think china was such an object of desire for the imperialist nations? I'll help; because it's huge population meant it was a massive, unsaturated market and thus a crisis of overproduction in the metropole could be overcome (postponed in reality) by increased exports
fuck you assholes this was a great day
im an anarchist, im celebrating this day, all who don't are crypto liberals
good man
if the most powerful, serious anti-capitalist movement of the future is anarchist, I'll fight with all my power for it's goals, though I'm more of a leninist myself
time for pickiness is over
Thats the idea comrade!!
This version is better.
Also is it raining gets or is it just me?
That's not a defining feature of capitalism. I can point out plenty of anticapitalist imperialists and capitalist anti-imperialists.
expansion of markets is a logical conclusion of a capitalist system
imperialism is a method of market expansion, in fact it could be and generally is argued that market expansion was the primary motivation behind the era of imperialism starting from the mid-19th century
If that's all it is, why would groups opposed to markets try to expand and conquer? And free trade exists as a nonviolent, perfectly moral alternative to imperialism, so your argument falls apart at both ends.
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this is not what imperialism is fundamentally, not all wars of expansion are imperialist per se. when China was divided, the imperialist powers didn't annex the land as a war of expansion would imply
also markets aren't capitalism
'free trade' can also take imperialist forms such as with the 'dollar imperialism' the US imposed on Latin America
but free trade is also a method of market expansion, yes
Just because it wasn't communism doesn't mean it wasn't cool and good.
Stalin did nothing wrong.
Well, sorta, the Billy Bragg version
democracynow.org
I wrote a blog about this.
uselesscriticism.wordpress.com
Here is Finbol's video explaining the revolution:
youtube.com
good vid. made me sad
It's too bad the Bragg version sucks so hard.
there is nothing to Celebrate the USSR fell 25 years ago.
Socialism and Communism has been on steady decline, all we've gotten lately, is just a lot of Liberals pretending to be leftists, Identitarian faggots and feminist witches.
I'm actually feeling depressed.
I agree if Socialism is to survive it must explore alternatives to the M-L orthodox such as communalism and democratic-confederalism
I thought you already left you supporting Kurdish US puppets.
Lenin Trotsky and the rest never gave a fuck about the people
The Bolsheviks were a group of mercenaries financed by Kaiser Wilhelm the 2nd and a group of liberal german bankers who wanted to knock russia out of the war so that it could seize belarus the Ukraine and the baltic states
The Bolsheviks never cared about the russian/other people in russia or russia itself and only existed to help german interests b destabilizing the russian state which had been up until that point inflicting massive loses on the german war machine
Read cockshott
No it fell 80 years ago.
90. Fuck.
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Kudos for using the NIN live version and not the Johnny cash meme version
title pls
Yesterday in Portugal.
Cool, are you in the PCP?? If so what are their objectives? is there actually any chance for socialism in Portugal?
I honestly wouldn't be suprised if the next wave of revolution starts in portugal
It would probably end there too if Spain has anything to say about it.
not if they lose catalonia
Fuck… We were so close… but it all comes to dust.
Capitalists rule continues unabated, and will do so well into the future.
The new Internationale will start with a renewed Treaty of Westminster…
What's the deal with this part of the portuguese constitution? Were they realli serious?
I'm not in the PCP but in my opinion the party has been looking a little bit DemSoc since they started supporting the government led by the Socialist Party (they're centrists). The party itself still uses democratic centralism. Yesterday the leader even talked about how we must use the theories of Marxism-Leninism, but their fight is mainly electoral and syndicalist. Their true force is in hte unions. They control the biggest union in the country, CGTP (en.wikipedia.org
That's still in our constitution and they were serious but basically the Preamble of the constitution isn't really binding, unfortunately. The liberals have been trying to amend the constitution but they need an absurd amount of votes or something like that, which they'll never get.
I’ve heard one Marxist journalist say that the Carnation Revolution is the first example of a Color Revolution? Is this true?
that was great
Well, this revolution wasn't that violent (in terms of deaths) because it was started by the military and everyone in the military was tired of fighting for a lost cause for 13 years. If there wasn't a Colonial War (en.wikipedia.org