You guys tell me to read your horse shit ideas, so I do. Let me give everyone the TLDR: They will never work because people are imperfect.
There is no way to make people perfect without causing death and misery, even if your way of organizing society is the ideal utopia. EVEN IF YOUR IDEALS ARE PERFECT THEY WON'T WORK BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE NOT PERFECT.
A perfect society requires perfect individuals, a society is nothing without the people in it.
Capitalism, a raw unadulterated free market system does more to raise the standard of living and abolish poverty and has done more than any system ever seen on this planet.
It's no coincidence that free societies practice capitalism and the more socialism injected into them the worse they do. SOCIALISM DESTROYS CAPITALISM.
I'ts like you all refuse to admit your ideals are trash so you read more books to convince yourself.
What has raised the living standards for common people is technological progress in combination with leftist political victories.
Stop being an uneducated fag.
Jack Hill
only part of this post i read btw
Andrew Watson
You guys tell me to read your horse shit ideas, so I do. Let me give everyone the TLDR: They will never work because people are imperfect.
There is no way to make people perfect without causing sin and misery, even if your way of organizing society is the ideal utopia. EVEN IF YOUR IDEALS ARE PERFECT THEY WON'T WORK BECAUSE PEOPLE CARRY THE ORIGINAL SIN.
A perfect society requires perfect individuals, a society is nothing without the aristocracy in it.
Feudalism and monarchy, a raw nobility system does more to raise the standard of living and abolish poverty and has done more than any system ever seen on this planet.
It's no coincidence that stable societies practice feudalism and the more democracy injected into them the worse they do. BOURGEOIS DEMOCRACY DESTROYS FEUDALISM.
It's like you all refuse to admit your ideals are trash so you read more books to convince yourself.
Well it didn't work on me.
James Campbell
Can you tell me where you read that commuism assumes people are perfect? In fact, the idea of never trusting authority is exactly BECAUSE people aren't perfect.
Adam Martinez
well good thing that socialism isnt utopian and is also based in science show me where marx claimed workers controlling the MoP would to a an ABSOLUTE utopia
Chase Hall
google bookchin
Lucas Diaz
Worst post ITT.
Noah Green
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Landon Allen
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Bentley Murphy
I hope you aren't including the OP.
Wyatt Johnson
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Isaiah Diaz
Oh shit I didn't realize, sorry about that. Guess it's over guys, pack it up before we destroy all the capitalism.
Brayden Young
wtf i love socialism now
Dylan Thompson
meanwhile the admin's sitting at xir desk picking an eye booger
Ryan Sanders
this is my favorite thread of all time
Isaiah Gutierrez
What allowed technological progress? it was capitalism LOL
yes there will always be the 1% because we are not created equal
one of the only ways to implement communism is with totalitarian regimes where are you going to find these angels to trust with absolute power. If anyone suggests we try communism which is responsible for over 100 million deaths that person should be mocked into oblivion
hard to be poor when your fucking dead
please remove yourself from this earth
Logan Robinson
I bet you do
Jaxson Miller
Everyone here that thinks communism is still a valid idea is an idiot, you brainwashed yourself into retardation, you have no idea how the real world works.
American Patriotism, Nationalism, and Capitalism built upon Christian values and morals created the strongest Nation the earth has ever seen and like all great empires it will come to an end and I believe we are seeing that end currently.
Josiah Nelson
Well if capitalism is so great then why are there still communists? Checkmate atheists.
Isaiah Parker
A brick wall, I suppose it has better arguments
Hunter Williams
You've not made any yourself, Mr. Sophist.
Austin Gray
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Logan Roberts
oxymoron famalam
William Brown
A number of individuals inventing things and coming up with new ideas not capitalism If anyone suggests we try communism which is responsible for over 100 million deaths that person should be mocked into oblivion
Brandon Jones
This. Goes to show just how much the apologist actually understands about the history and social implications of the development of capital
Lincoln Butler
Holy shit big if true, how many did capitalism kill btw?
Brody Wright
1. communism/socialism isn't "a perfect system" or a utopia, it's just the resolution of the problems in the current system Wrong. This is premised on manipulated data by the the World Bank of all people, where the definition of poverty was set at an absurdly low rate to begin with and then adjusted twice because it still wasn't getting them the results they wanted. Even WITH the adjustments the only place that's really improved substantively across the board is China (and India to a lesser degree). Seriously hilarious that "anti-globalists" are swallowing narratives by the World Fucking Bank uncritically. You can't "inject" socialism into capitalism you fucking brainlet. Why come here and pretend you read when you clearly didn't? If only you could read it might have
Jacob Morales
You're right, so why are you advocating for a system that incentivizes negative market behavior?
The left may destroy societies, but reddit spacing destroys planets
Tyler Garcia
OP why is destroying society a bad thing?
Adam Richardson
This. What's wrong with corrupting the youth?
Ryan Morgan
Typical of lefties trying to destroy society just because they can't work hard enough to get ahead. My grandpa wasn't a lazy piece of shit when he came to this country and built up our family business, and if you weren't useless lazy leeches you'd do the same
Nathan Garcia
Wew.
Lucas Butler
I will fight you for your grandads business, since neither of us had any part in its development and only the two of us have interest in it
Henry Reyes
Protip: Social mobility in most of the world including the first is virtually non-existent at this point
John Allen
Yeah but I thought people were imperfect and greedy/lazy so communism won't work???
Jonathan Cruz
A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.
Wyatt Roberts
So you didn't actually read any Marxist literature and figured these tired anti-communist platitudes would suffice.
t. Karl Marx
Sebastian Roberts
Read Stirner faggot.
Nolan Martin
In the singular, one is gifted. Together, debilitated. That seems paradoxical, friend. Unless you mean to account for the whole of human history, you're assertion seems a little without form. You might be a luddite
