As the right unifies, what are we on the left to do?

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Not every left winger is extreme left. We aren't united.

Meanwhile the right has consistently been moving to the extreme right as we sit back and stay divided into different groups.

the text seems to appeal to the need to be radical like the republicans but also says extremism is bad

it's incoherent

It's not necessarily saying extremism is bad persay, but rather the left needs to become uniformly extreme as the right is taking over society through radicalism.

Moderates keep society stable. But if one wing goes radical, the other wing also needs to in order to maintain balance.
Or will we allow the right to win?

If this is the US we are talking about, the far left is complete irrelevant in US politics. Even IF we take into account Bernie, which is an if because he’s not really far left, how do we stop the fracturing you speak of? Side with neoliberals and unfettered capitalism? I think not

"Hey look over there, the Nazis are invading Poland"

"Yes, I know. But I can't intervene, that would be aggression. I can't violate the moderate values which were set up for me in law long ago. That would be illegal."

"Hey look, Nazis are invading France"


"Sorry can't help England directly. Gotta stay isolationist. Can't send troops overseas. Only equipment, small steps."


"Sir the Japanese are annihilating our ships in Pearl Harbor"


"WHAT? I'M DECLARING WAR TOMORROW. SELF DEFENSE."


If only the U.S. had disregarded idiotic norms and went to extremes, we wouldn't have had a second world war.


If only the Western allies had preempted Hitler. But nope, had to give Germany a second chance. Had to blindly let them violate the treaty of Versailles because "their reclaiming what we took from them. We unjustly crippled their economy with reparations. Let's give them some opportunities"

If only we had united in defense of the left long ago, Donald Trump would have never risen to power, possibly neither Nixon or Reagan.

If only.

Go participate in another LGBT, or “anti-racist” rally, pat yourself on the back, and reassure yourself you represent “the workers”.

The western allies wanted fascism to crush the Soviet Union though

We need to create a coalition between leftists of every kind united with one narrative or plan.
And it can't just be "remove Trump from office" because then what happens when Trump is gone?
We need to build a lasting, high quality and durable movement to defeat the right. And we need to put individual differences aside in the name of the pragmatic greater good of the left.

Is the right really unifying? If the auts continual infighting after every protest, and the Neocons increasing willingness to speak out against them, it seems like the right is fracturing, at least in the US.

And if Corbyn's recent speech in Vienna has any influence, which I think it most certainly does, we might very well see a return to 20th succdemism, which is honestly worth being hopeful about in these dismal times, Rosa killing and all.

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Infighting at rallies? But what about the unification of the right on online forums?
We are in a new era. Political organization not only takes place on the streets and in real life gatherings between people, but also online. In Holla Forums. In 4chan. On Stormfront. The right is unifying online with one narrative, one cause.
While we are vulnerable and disunited, susceptible to various scenarios of defeat.

The aut-right caused a schism between the reactionaries and vanilla conservatives by revealing that they're nazis too early. If we're talking about mainstream burger politicians, Trump will be primaried if 2018 doesn't go well for Republicans and bourgeois democracy is a load of horseshit anyways. That image is liberal bullshi and you should be ashamed of killing a thread to post it.

Oh and reddit of course, with The_Donald.
We'll see if the Neocons are truly willing to take action against the far right. At the moment the right is unifying quickly and speaking out against radicals might result in political ostracization.
"The aut-right caused a schism between the reactionaries and vanilla conservatives by revealing that they're nazis too early. If we're talking about mainstream burger politicians, Trump will be primaried if 2018 doesn't go well for Republicans and bourgeois democracy is a load of horseshit anyways. That image is liberal bullshi and you should be ashamed of killing a thread to post it."
Vanilla conservatives aren't really leading the right anymore. They are increasingly becoming just outliers, submitting to Donald Trump's command.

not really, they're splitting. once nazis showed up irl the right will never be united again.

"Trump will be primaried in 2018"
According to whom?
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It's very possible that he might win again.

The right is uniting behind Donald Trump. Conservatives, Evangelicals, the alt right, Nazis, and pretty much Neocons are backing his Presidency in the majority or will be soon.
They are beginning to accept a common narrative, one against immigration and for the protection of white interests.


My point still stands. The left is disunited, and we need to find / create ways of uniting it.

"The left" doesn't exist in America lmao

what could possibly go wrong, mr political cartoonist?

It does. It's just incredibly fractured into different factions and crippled by identity politics. Remember, SJWs are technically on the left. The foundation for a united left exists in the U.S., but every day it enters a worse state of disrepair. Soon it will be gone, annihilated by the righ wingers unless we start using it.


Left wing politics have more similarities than differences. The right is the true enemy, not eachother.

it's was never the majority see how it lost the popular vote. it's not now, if something when a president gets elected he always gets more and more popular from 1st day to last. It's down hill, always. happened to obama too.

Nazis showing up in USA made it accelerate that a lot, this is why I always say Holla Forums is the worst enemy of Holla Forums.
In fact I don't think Holla Forums has to do anything at all, but if Holla Forums doesn't USA is going to go back to be how it was under Obama after Trump. Which is pointless.

S you're a dumb liberal
You may have not noticed but this board is rad left, you aren't welcome here

also if you believe that bullshit then why the senate couldn't pass Pence's Transgender ban in the military?

seriously. I'm correct af when I say Holla Forums is the main reason Trump is losing popularity so fast. Accelerationism, read what that shit is.
We don't have to do anything but we should, what I will do is just educate people, encourage them to read, thats all. I don't expect a revolution it's a "1st world" country, I expect a shitty reform but whatever a reform will make it easier for me to become autonomous so I can fuck off from "civil society" and get to a sort of communal living. Autonomy is the best revolution since I don't have to wait for anyone, I just have to gather resources, get stronger and more skilled.

I guess Marxist-Leninists are "liberal."

I was also just recently a Stalinist / tankie until I abandoned that path.


The electoral college allowed right wing Presidents to win in order to prevent civil war.
Right wingers are more inclined to violent behavior. If Trump hadn't won, who knows what could have happened - mass uprising by Bible thumpers and Nazis?


Holla Forums is not the worst enemy of Holla Forums. Holla Forums and other right wing websites serve as organizational headquarters for right wing extremists.


Yes let's stay disunited and allow the moderates to take control again unopposed.
A great idea, to miss this great chance at power created by social instability.

I'm not disunited and I'm personally powerful. I do this for my own. idk what you think but at least you stopped being a tankie.

I make a lot of liberal friends irl which I convert to their own self ownership most of them workers, so they get into ideas of owning their own labor (socialism, syndicalism, mutualism, autonomy, etc). From there I already did what satisfies me. I make more and more allies. will keep doing so.

Tankies critize Anarchs (and anything non-statist like them really). But thats something I don't care about. For every Tankie lost 10 liberals start reading socialist, mutualist, communal, etc literature. Thats my reasoning.

for every Holla Forumstard that gets involved into the right. the right loses 10 moderates.

Moderates have been disappearing from the right for decades.

Political moderates have also been disappearing out of existence entirely. The right has been becoming radicalized since the beginning of the culture war in the 1960s, but the moderates haven't been defecting to other ideologies. They've been literally dying off or leaving politics.


Relative "moderates" stalled the votes on repealing Obamacare. But when those moderates are gone, the right will be further united. Keep in mind, the centerline of our entire political landscape. has shifted to the right. Moderate Republicans of today are more right wing than those of the 1940s or 1950s.
They are seeking to bring the U.S. back into a nostalgic period of history, rather than into the future.


I personally attribute this partially to the dying off of the generation which actually fought against the Nazis and fascism. Recent generations have never experienced anything like WWII and the real possibility of America being invaded / bombed, and actually LOSING a war instead of the whole world being destroyed by a resulting nuclear war.
The U.S. could have actually lost the war and been rendered a puppet state / nation of slaves.
Nukes changed the equation of war.


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