Questions for "Real" socialists

Who do you hate more, Nazis or the liberals who try to make your two groups live in peace together?

Nazis, without question. Liberalism is at least pro-modernity.

Both are the enemy. It really doesn’t matter which I hate more. Feelings are subjective anyway

Nazis are liberals, no matter how much they pretend that they aren't.

Nazis

Funny, I say the exact same thing about commies.

You can say that. But you are wrong.

Ill throw a molotov cocktail in here.

You can be either anti capitalist or in a sense be pro capitalist. This is a black and white issue. You either oppose capitalism or you don't.

Nazis, are fascists and in a sense are anti capitalist. Their entire ideology is a reaction against capitalism and materialism. It is not capitalisms last stand as some memers here try to repeat in order to feed into their party narrative. There is a reason why the first fascists were former socialists.

Therefore, buying into the nazi knee jerkhate boner and being comparatively calmer when it comes to capitalists is in a sense, pro capitalist. It is essentally admitting that when push comes to shove you would ally with the capitalists against the nazis who are anti capitalists, everytime.

i reject this. i am before anything an anti capitalist. capitalism fucks me and my family and those like me every single day of my life. i have no choice but to be completely and uncompromisingly anti capitalist no matter what. no distractions or red herrings.

so yes, i "hate" liberals more than i hate nazis. much more even.

What's the difference lol

As Communists we should be engaging in action against the liberals more than the Nazis.

Far-right collaborationists only ever become relevant when Capitalism enters a deep crisis. But then again, the Capitalism of today is not the Capitalism of the 20s and 30s, so thinking of Capitalism in decay as always turning to Fascism ignores our present material reality.

What I'm saying is Fascism may not be the end of the story, as it may well be superseded by a different Capitalist reaction. That's why we should focus on fighting Capitalism and denouncing all forms of class collaborationism rather than obsessing an ideology that may no longer have a place in history.

Stop responding to useless namefags

Democrats in America are literally putting bullets in nazi heads. They may be different sides of the same coin but at least cynical liberals put themselves to use when they start popping off on nazi mongoloids.

Stop posting anytime.

Nazis. Democrats agree with us on most things except capitalism, which makes them useful idiots. They're at least nominally anti-racism, pro-immigrant, support silencing Nazis even though it is through corporate censorship, and so on.

You stupid commie. Its okay to be a cuck if the boss is white! I only suck pure aryan pork cock, thank you.

Now if you excuse me, I have to go to work. My boss's son isn't going to raise himself, is he?

Depends on whos being the biggest cunt at the moment

Sorry everyone. Please disregard this thread. I suck cocks.

it is possible for an ideology to be anti capitalist and not be socialism or anarchism. see boko haram. capitalism isnt just code for thing i dont like and neither is fascism or nazism.

liberalism is the face capitalism puts on when it wants to fool people and make them believe everything is fine, fascism is merely the revelation of the true nature of capital and the state. The state liberal managers watch over is still an imperial war machine just waiting to go into overdrive and destroy us all. Kinda like the terminator when its skin melts off.

Cool, explain all this.

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germany's economic policies in the mid 20th century isnt what nazism is. otherwise youd have to concede that the soviet union under stalin was what socialism actually was. the ideology is not the same as what these states actually did.

Nanomachines

also da jooz

fact: most internet 'Nazis' are just alienated autists suffering from capitalism related mental illness

why would he have to concede that

Most internet nazis are just racist libertarians though. Actually existing nazism is pro-capitalist.

because its the same situation.

"actually existing" "socialism" was always pro capitalist too.

It's not, because communism had decades of work put behind it, while nazism didn't. Do tell me what nazism would look like if it was not Hitler's Germany.

What?

hitler envisioned a mercantalist autarkic class collaborationist nation state. he made numerous anti capitalist remarks, some of which people here would absolutely love if it didnt come form hitler. iirc Goebells said hed choose communism over capitalism.

The nazis were extreme nationalists. nationalism is in direct conflict with capitalism. nationalism stresses the well being of the nation, the people. capitalism stresses the importance of global capital. this is why today nationalism is on the rise. it is the only coherent ideology left that is in direct contrast to capitalism.

every socialist project in real life has always been state capitalist in practice.

I hate liberals more. Nazis were relevant in the '30s, and maybe it was a real question then - but now you're asking me whether I hate capitalism's legitimizing ideology or obnoxious internet edgelords more.

Autarkic is good, class collaborationist and mercantilist is still capitalist though.
Are you sure you're not referring to Strasser's remarks, often wrongly attributed to Hitler?
And Goebbels was the minister of propaganda, you really shouldn't trust him.
This I understand, and it's why a lot of Holla Forumsyps end up coming here, but a majority of nationalists don't realize that and act like the ruling class' cattle.

Them being state capitalist doesn't make them pro capitalist, they worked against global capital and tried to reach socialism. They all have been anti capitalist, but restrained by their enviroment.

Hitlerism is not anti-modernity, it just takes the best aspects of trad and prog and merges them while discarding the bad.

Nazis care only about their race, liberals care about liberty and justice for all.

Both support capitalism. Who cares about those other spooks?

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