Leftist game plan in the US

socdem is the closest thing to socialism that america will ever get, and even that is wishful thinking.

So I'd finish a sentence with a quotation with a question in it like
"Is this how I do it?" That's correct?

No, you'd finish it like:

Because there is a meaning assigned to the end bit of punctuation that recontextualises the sentence. I mean it looks clunky, but that is what is required. English is a bitch,

That looks fucking atrocious. It's like you've condensed your shit into pure light and taken a crap down my retinas.

As I said: english is a bitch. Although tbh that kind of scenario is immensely rare.

There's no way something like the DSA is going to get big enough to matter by 2020. It's gonna be the same shitshow all over again. I think it would be more effective for the left in the US to promote electing an actual turd, because that's all that the electoral system represents.

Tbh the goal isn't to win by 2020 though, it is to build a movement that allows for eventual victory. The DSA is working the right strat: working the local up into the national. It is exactly what turned the SPA from a group of randos into a party that was governing towns, cities, some states and had congressmen. It took them more than 4 years to do that, give them time.

It's not when you have to debate sassy liberals and rogue redditors who seem to communicate entirely in rhetorical questions to avoid confrontation.

scoundrels and filth. No purpose in debating these jackoffs. You wouldn't spend time debating a toddler, would you?

Then I feel for you bro. But yeah, that is the correct way of handling quotes in sentences. (Well according to British English anyways).

Perhaps. I could see them getting big enough by 2024 if the Democrats and Republicans continue to unravel at the seams.

Tbh yes. The main thing atm is getting people elected: atm they have 5 people endorsed on the 7th and I am 90% sure none of them are democrats. The major one is a NYC Cllr called Jarabai who is running on the Green party ticket and also on a Democratic Socialist ticket (Apparently you can run under two different banners, and your votes get added together or some shit). Jarabai is a member so this would put the DSA technically on the New York City Council.

No, its correct according to American English as well, you just can't expect Burgers to be educated enough to give a fuck
-T. burgerboy

I hate rhetorical questions, don't you think it's poor form to try and start a debate with something like "You wouldn't spend time debating a toddler, would you?"!?

Heh I read somewhere that it was different, just like the use of " " and ' '.

Although ironically which one is correct in british typology apparently switches around every three decades if one looks through print.

Leftist parties
Game plan

newstatesman.com/culture/2017/09/class-wargames-how-obscure-board-game-led-labours-gamification-power

The most immediate praxis is to help Trump rip the country apart culturally, for fuel, and help the republicans dissolve the state, for oxygen. Be ready with sparks.

Yes - I think the Democrats are the bigger threat to left victory, because they breed complacency. The problem is that at the end of the day, most of the red liberals who would vote for DSA will end up voting Democrat in order to prevent a Republican victory. All hope for Democrat victory must be destroyed so they don't have that option.

I think a democrat victory is still viable at this point, the republican war machine is powerful enough to contend with a D president, and they're mad as fuck.
The RIGHT dem president could add MORE fuel to the fire (Clinton, Sanders, Kamela Harris,) and even if they elect Biden/Bush we can DRIVE THE IDPOL WEDGE HARDER, honestly. Reactionary fury is the power source we need to draw on right now, because in a way the left are the real reactionaries in the US- we wouldn't even be stirring without Trump. (Besides which BLM are 100% right and are the real revolutionary force in the US right now.)

The one thing we really need to worry about is the republicans in congress getting turned off acceleration by Trump. If they get scared and decide to start putting in the control rods they can cool the whole country off. Some people say they've awoken a monster they can't control but I don't buy it, the alt-right movement is a political hanger-queen that needs constant stoking from donors and electeds.

As long as the republicans in congress keep the accelerator down we're in the Zone, where anything could happen.

This.
The democrats are currently what passes for "the left" and destroying them should be the actual left's goal.Doing so will allow the republicans to govern unopposed, giving the electorate a firsthand, up close look at what they offer, namely nothing.
It will also clear the way for an actual socialist alternative to take advantage.
The republicans are their own worst enemies, while the democrats are the great defenders of the capitalist status quo, removing them from the equation is the first step.

What? How are Clinton or Kamela Harris the right Dem president? I agree that liberals are reactionaries.

??? BLM has been completely co-opted by neoliberals, its already basically over and will be dead within a year. We need to make a very clear distinction between liberals and the left.

I don't know bro, mainstream Republicans aren't much different from neoliberals. They're pretty much the opposite of accelerationist. The alt-right is more accelerationist but by the time of the next election they're gonna be old news. They need to be destroyed too. Accelerationism has to constantly look for the new thing that will fuck up the system. Things get absorbed the system so fast that you can't rely on the thing that was accelerationist even last year.

They're right because they'll infuriate the reactionaries the way Obama did. Don't underestimate how much of this is fueled by white porkies afriad of black porkies at this stage.

How on earth has BLM been coopted by neoliberals? Are they marching for austerity now? wtf are you talking about

you know on second thought this entire post is completely bad.

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meant this one in both cases

please do, Holla Forums.

Or are you some nazbol larper who thinks he's gonna join the 5th international in 2018 and wave the hammer and sickle? We live here and now. BLM are the organic movement of the lumpen for justice outside the system. We need them and their cause is right.

Not him, but BLM does seem to have some high-profile id-pol attention-whores.

I support what they originally stand for, but I'm not sure their organization currently supports much that I care about.

I get more value in terms of holding the authorities accountable for their disproportionate murder of black men by subscribing to the Guardian, frankly. And they're just keeping a record.

Pure reaction. Also

Push for Greens

Maybe, but then the establishment liberals will be back in power and it will be business as usual. I view Trump as accelerationist because he upsets the balance on both left and right. Upseting only one is the back and forth that American politics has always had.

BLM has zero class analysis, they never were very radical tbh. They would be satisfied with a Democratic president who implemented some police reforms. They're a useful tool for the forces of neoliberalism to push race/gender/LGBT as the extent of radical politics, never touching class.

75% of the people shot by cops aren't even black. Their narrative doesn't hold up. It makes more sense to have an anti-capitalist, anti-police movement which doesn't devolve into the most oppressed black trans muslim telling everyone what to do, and lecturing whitey.

hahahaha I knew it

kill yourself strasserite

This can be prevented by Supporting Bannonist candidates in Republican primaries, BUT it might backfire and when shit hits the fan could instill a far-right military dictatorship.

Honestly an outright dictatorship might be a weaker form of control. Mite b OK

Supporting bannonist candidates definitely, and also we have to resist the forces trying to rehabilitate neocons.

We need outrage. More more more more endless outrage on both sides no matter what it takes.

I do. You don't. I have no idea where you are living.
wired.com/story/russian-black-activist-facebook-accounts/
They literally ask the system for the justice
No
Their "cause" is nebulous and even if all their conditions are met we are not a single step closer to revolution.

Here’s what we do. We do entryism in the Green Party, make them a socialist party. We push them in rural areas by having them retract gun control and MUCH more importantly have them support land redistribution from large farms to small farmers and give financial encouragements small farmers to voluntarily create farm collectives. In cities we stress that only the Greens can end police brutality. To make this clear we tell people that a lot of the police shootings happened when Obama was president. We also tell people that we’ll bring back manufacturing. Also in general talk about how we’re against the CIA as well as the “corporate class” who will just be the bourgeoisie. In pushing socialist ideas try to explain labor vouters to people and try to get them on board.

The US is basically a dictatorship so we might as well make the obvious shown.

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Are we debating?

That woman is the founder of BLM Toronto. Deray McKesson, the co founder of their American movement, is in a homosexual relationship with the CEO of twitter. Real working class.

read this
marxist.com/marxism-vs-intersectionality.htm

TIL opposing BLM liberal idpol makes one a Nazi.

No one gives a fuck. The people out on the streets every night in STL are what matters. Here the masses are literally organizing themselves and you don't want to see it because they rub your own idpol wrong.

go away Holla Forums

They're out in the streets because their Jew masters are telling them to scare whitey and allow them to pass more nigger control laws that they can then use to sink their claws further into the american public.

the fucking state of this place

If you pretend to be a communist but you dont at the VERY LEAST have critical support for BLM and Micah Johnson then you should

1. Join the Traditional Workers Party

2. Neck yourself you waste of DNA

Please Huey come back to us

The people on the streets I have no problem with for the most part. I think they're potentially open for a class-based critique. Its the BLM infrastructure which has cozied up to the powers that be. There is no hope for them.

You've swallowed pol agitprop, probably because it strokes your own reactionary tendencies.

Some famous bitch you don't like isn't politics.

the only support a leftist should have for BLM is for fight against the police, the rest is totally worthless and counterrevolutionary idpol

so… the entire point of BLM?

It shows. They want segregation and their own black political party which should be funded by reparations. They are totally politically unaware and don't recognize (and the few that do don't care) that any reparation money will simply be extracted from the white working class.

You expect to just lie and not be challenged? You're from pol I can tell.

this is true, but there fight against the police is very important to the point where I’m willing to overlook other stuff.

He doesn't care, he's not being honest. What he means to say is "I hate cops but also niggers"

leftypol has a fucking problem.

Literally google BLM political platform

go back to pol

You both are acting like retards and are acting spooky.

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You know jack shit