I'M SO FUCKING SICK OF IDPOL JESUS CHRIST I JUST WANT TO HAVE A NORMAL FUCKING DEBATE ABOUT LEFT POLITICS WITHOUT SOME...

I'M SO FUCKING SICK OF IDPOL JESUS CHRIST I JUST WANT TO HAVE A NORMAL FUCKING DEBATE ABOUT LEFT POLITICS WITHOUT SOME RETARD SMUG ASSHOLE BRINGING UP "LOL RAPE IN SWEDEN" OR SOME CUNT SAYING "ALL MEN HAVE IT BETTER THAN WOMEN" FUCK OFFFF YOU GOD DAMN CUNTS PICK UP A FUCKUNG BOOK FOR ONCE IN YOUR FUCKING LIVES

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I know what you feel user.
I'm fucking disgusted, whenever I see Tumblr like feminists at Leftist reunions, or Anarcha feminists shitting or protesting, for stupid stuff.
I wish I could shred them alive in a wood shredder when I see them.

where the fuck do you go for discussions then, some subreddits or what?

I read that in Arnold's voice kek

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How do you pronounce 'idpol' tho?

Just a reminder that capitalism affects different sections of he proletariat differently, and that there is no one sized fits all socialist plan, and that tumblr-tier feminism is dumb but actual socialist based feminism isn't. Same with identity that falls within the proletariat

TL:DR stop beig stipid and nuance yourself

Yes it is. Just like how the Nation of Islam is dumb and so is de-colonization theory.

is not an argument, sweetie.

"It's not dumb" is also not an argument.

We're not gonna be free of idpol until Hoochie Minh gets permabanned and there is a sigh of relief heard all around

Yeah, but I literally explained why I don't think it's dumb, you know the first sentence I wrote there, about different sections of the proletariat and all.

I don't think your cut out to be a leftist if you can't read.

GIT AWT OFF MAI BORD
DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

I keep hearing this myth of non-bourgeois, non-tumblr feminism but nobody ever explains what it is or gives examples of it. Am I supposed to take it on faith that such a thing exists, only to adopt the label and help bourgeois feminism seem more popular?

Yes. I've been presented with Marxist feminism and not only was it laughably wrong, but it also advanced a problem.atic view/understanding of feudalism specifically and relations of production in general.


What you are suggesting is that feminism is the only way to approach the diverse effects of capitalism (or some subset of those), which is prima facie silly

I don't think anyone should adopt ideological labels, only use them to describe. Ognoring how capitalism affects some people differently than others within the proletariat, is not going to get you anywhere.

This is full retard tier, but if your serious there is a leftypol reading list image literally called "non-tumblr feminist reading list" I can't be assed to find it for you tho.

Nope.

Ignoring

OK well then you're saying it's useful, which is just a restatement of "it's not dumb" which is still not an argument.

what you call socialism based feminism is very rare although I'm sure it exists

However the current frankfurt crafted feminism believes in degrading women into sex objects as some sort of 'liberation' along with destroying the family for "equality"(and porkys profit)

So far I have found the latter is much more common

Calling it non-tumblr doesn't make it non-tumblr, considering all the puritanical life-denying bourgeois moralism that passes and has passed for leftism when sold with a side of pussy-worship.

you should be ashamed of yourself.

I dunno, most of the time I usually see
more than
although I do see that


This is why the left is doomed


It's just analysis of how socialism affects proletarian women differently than proletarian men, that's it, if you're cool with ignoring the specific problems that face half the working class, I don't care because you're not relevant anyway.

hmm… rly mdae me thunk…

Capitalism
Holy shit I need to go to bed.

You're just mad because the Jews–objectively proven to be the superior species by Aryan science–are on our side.

Don't worry, we'll make sure the cuckpens in the gulags are big enough for you and your dakimakura. Commissars Jamal and Cletus will make sure you enjoy your stay. :^)

No it isn't you dumbass brainlet.
WOMAN RESPECTER
Shut up your manbun sporting little creep. Fuck off back to reddit.

Just a reminder that unifying those different segments and their demands based on a shared position in production and distribution instead of cultural and inner-class economic differences is exactly the point of Marxism, and to fragment the strategies and demands according to any visible cleavage is one of the ideas Marx reacted against in his time.

If you think a change in the economic system will not affect all spheres of society then you don't believe in materialism

And where is this socialist based feminism nowadays? Show me one socialist movement whose feminist elements are not more concerned with witch hunts based on jokes and gossip than anything else.

Sure a lot of identitarians talk about Bolshevik feminists and things like the Black Panthers to assume a veneer of Marxist, materialist identity politics that doesn't fall into the traps of liberal cultural politics and call-out culture, but in practice they're still only worried about which problematic people you follow on Twitter, so fuck them.

How do you do italics?

I never said that 99% of feminism isn't garbage bourgie callout pop-feminism, as far as I understand it most of the non-garbage stuff is deals with analyzing bougie society and how it affects women, which is useful when trying to figure out how to structure socialism so it doesn't perpetuate the *ahem* patriarchy that would be latent from previous capitalist society, like pre capitalist ideas of sex roles affected womens' roles in capitalism particularly early capitalism when women didn't get wages for house work.

Tell me one thing the New Left has achieved. One thing.
Yeah, good example. They were so incredibly separated from modern Leftist idpol that Fred Hampton's speech practically gets dropped on this board any time american racial relations comes up.

They were Universalists, not Intersectionalists.

Really stimulates the neurons.

B-BUT WOMEN HOLD UP HALF THE SKY!!!!

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You people are so fucking bad at hiding holy shit lol

Tru
Lmao Holla Forumsyps think they can coopt us because we hate feminism

wtf I love capitalism now

wtf i'm a marxist leninist now?

women are indeed half the population yes

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yes, so very rare, only because socialist feminism is a redundant statement.

forgot pic

And all of these socialist projects predated all the petty highschool-clique, self-flagellating shit so prevalent in the idpol Left.

and that makes a difference how exactly?

fucking idiot

" It is difficult if not impossible for any nationalist to conceal his allegiance. The smallest slur upon his own unit, or any implied praise of a rival organization, fills him with uneasiness which he can relieve only by making some sharp retort."

Misogyny is symbolic of le capitalist oppression ebin
Don't be a rape apologist OP

That they achieved the things that they without the supposedly necessary intersectionality

stop being such a brocialist
more female ceos is the answer