Did the USSR have commodity production?
Did the USSR have commodity production?
yea cuz your mom is was still a hoe and sellin her stanky ass
Yes, and that's why it was state capitalism.
I guess then feudalism and slave societies were state capitalism too.
This >2156400 user implied that state capitalism is any kind commodity production (which - as you probably know - existed under feudalism and slave societies).
Not that user but
>that's why it was state capitalism
That guy didn't mention wage labour or generalized commodity production. The existance of commodity production itself is not enough for a society to qualify as capitalist.
The existence of perpetuated commodity production necessitates every other aspect. Under Feudalism, selling produce surplus to merchants happened by accident, and they only made profit by selling it elsewhere for a higher price. This is not Capitalism this is just trade.
doesn't commodity production fuck with the economic incentives? e.g. production for exchange means there's incentive for a black market to surface
Feudalism had perpetuated commodity production though. I mean you are forgetting here about the whole guild system which was heavily regulated production for exchange. The selling of surplus was a very existing thing, I don't know what do you mean by "accident" here, but I'm very sure that the serfs needed shit like tools or something to store their produce in.
USSR was state feudalism confirmed
Economic Problems of the USSR
Remarks on Economic Questions
Connected with the November 1951 Discussion
To the Participants in the Economic Discussion:
I have received all the materials on the economic discussion arranged to assess the draft textbook on political economy. The material received includes the "Proposals for the Improvement of the Draft Textbook on Political Economy," "Proposals for the Elimination of Mistakes and Inaccuracies" in the draft, and the "Memorandum on Disputed Issues." On all these materials, as well as on the draft textbook, I consider it necessary to make the following remarks.
A Textbook issued by the Economics Institute of the Academy of Sciences of the U.S.S.R
and refering to your question the following chapter
Part III : THE SOCIALIST MODE OF PRODUCTION
B. THE SOCIALIST ECONOMIC SYSTEM
CHAPTER XXXII : COMMODITY PRODUCTION, THE LAW OF VALUE, AND MONEY, IN SOCIALIST SOCIETY
The Necessity for Commodity Production in Socialist Society, its Characteristics
incredibly constructive and insightful posts my man
they had central planners manage the economy, led to the famous "bread lines"
Guilds were an organ which kept the escaping serfs from inflating the market and regulated the quality of the produces. On the other hand, the property wasn't held in common and production and distribution wasn't determined by the guilds.
The USSR had a market economy. There were wages grades for the various classes of employees.
The USSR had a market economy. Some classes of employees had higher wages than others.
Not generalized commodity production in fuedalism. Most goods made for the use of producer. Grain was made by peasants for their own use. Sure some commoditys were created for exchange but this wasn't generalized across society.
Yeah but it wasn't capitalist commodity production as the law of value didn't regulate it. Anybody who claims that a commodity is like this stale thing that is reduced to the mere exchange value hasn't even read the first chapter of Capital tbh
"The major defining characteristic of a market economy is that investment decisions, or the allocation of producer good, are primarily made through capital and financial markets. This is contrasted with a planned economy, where investment and production decisions are embodied in an integrated plan of production established by a state or other organizational body that controls the factors of production."
not their fault you can't even take the time to read 30-page pamphlets
they did after stalin took power and turned the soviet union into red fascism
Begone trot. This is a leftcom v tankie thread.
Commodity production existed in the USSR before Stalin too, you dumb trot, get the fuck outta here.