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If Holla Forums and /lefty/ do not hang together in defense of gun rights, then you all shall assuredly be hung separately.

The rhino porkies and the 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧democrats🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 both want you unarmed, begging from your knees as an unarmed subject instead of a free, armed, liberty loving citizen.

If there is anything you ever unite together for, please let it be the basic universal human right to self defense.

Harriet Tubman who ran the underground railroad was once leading a group of escaped slaves from the south to the north. One of the men said to her "I am tired, I am hungry, I am cold and I am scared. I just want to go back. Master will forgive me if I do."

Harriet Tubman pulled out her revolver that she carried with her, pointed it at his face, cocked it and said "Nigger, you keep going or I will shoot you dead right here and now."

The story goes he kept going and earned his freedom to the north.

Free people own guns, slaves do not.
No master will ever allow a slave to own guns.

"The whole history of the progress of human liberty shows that all concessions yet made to her august claims have been born of earnest struggle. The conflict has been exciting, agitating, all-absorbing, and for the time being, putting all other tumults to silence. It must do this or it does nothing. If there is no struggle there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom and yet deprecate agitation are men who want crops without plowing up the ground; they want rain without thunder and lightning. They want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters."

"This struggle may be a moral one, or it may be a physical one, and it may be both moral and physical, but it must be a struggle. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will. Find out just what any people will quietly submit to and you have found out the exact measure of injustice and wrong which will be imposed upon them, and these will continue till they are resisted with either words or blows, or with both. The limits of tyrants are prescribed by the endurance of those whom they oppress." -Frederick Douglass

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Why do you need to own guns?

We know this

fuck off liberal

speaking to the choir bub. Being a good communist means being a pro-gun communist.

Why would we ally with people who went head over heels for a president who's already stepped up surveillance and the militarization of the police? We're also gonna get those gun rights cucked soon under Trump.

kys

I was in the military for 6 years. I do not trust the government that orders the military. I think that firearms are the final system of checks and balances in any form of government.

Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Even the greatest of people can succumb to the temptation of greed, to lord power over others. To desire more for their family that they would take with force from the weaker.

Firearms even and level the playing field. A 70 year old woman can fight back against a mob of thugs armed with bats and knives. It enables the weak to be strong, the timid to be lions, the few to field an army.

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This can only ever be possible if every member of the society is a member of the military, and all military ranks are equal. Every citizen is a fucking /k/ommando who can take out any other member of society.

I think society can only ever exist as equals if we all point rifles at each other and watch each other for signs of greed, jealousy, lust, rage, power.

OP is a pretty cool dude. The upcoming gun control debate will be a good way for us to differentiate ourselves from liberals. I encourage everyone to do your best to spread communist pro-gun propaganda and rhetoric, both online and in your personal lives.

Bringing my thread back to life, I hope it is acceptable to do?

I just wanted to talk about the history of gun control in Britain. I am going to post the acts of gun control that have taken place there over the last 100 years (roughly).

Let this be a warning to you if you live in a nation that still allows the citizens to own guns. NEVER turn in your rifles, shotguns and handguns. I am copy and pasting this from a libertarian website (I am not a libertarian).

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-In 1900 the British government trusted the people with firearms and to be their own guardians. Prime Minister Robert Gascoyne-Cecil, the Marquess of Salisbury said he would "laud the day when there was a rifle in every cottage in England". However in 1903 Britain passed its first ever "gun control" law, a minor one requiring a permit to carry a handgun and restricting the age of purchasers. It was the first toe over a slippery slope towards complete firearms prohibition.

-In 1919 the British government, in fear of communist insurgents and domestic and foreign anarchists, passed its first sweeping anti-gun laws (under the smokescreen of crime control) even though gun related crime was almost non existent in the England of the day. British subjects could now only buy a firearm if they could show "a good reason" for having one and the firearm certificate system that we have today (implemented and abused by police) was introduced. The 1920 gun control act was the beginning of the end for private firearms ownership in England. So much for Robert Gascoyne-Cecil's remarks of "a rifle in every cottage in England" being a laudable goal.

-In 1936 short barrelled shotguns (such as shot pistols used for ratting) and fully automatic firearms were outlawed. Why? Not because such firearms were ever misused but because the government dictated that civilians had "no legitimate reason" for owning them. Where have we heard that before! Another slide down the slippery slope. The reasoning has now changed from the government NEEDING TO SHOW REASONS FOR THE RESTRICTIONS to the people NEEDING TO SHOW REASONS TO EXERCISE THEIR RIGHTS, to a government TELLING them that there was NO ACCEPTABLE REASON.

The English Bill of Rights states "That the subjects which are Protestants may have arms for their defense, suitable to their condition and as allowed by law" Sir William Blackstone, commenting on this in his Commentaries on the laws of England said, "The fifth and last auxiliary RIGHT of the subject, that I shall at present mention, is that of having arms for their defense, suitable to their condition, and as allowed by law, which is also declared by the same statute IW & M ft.2c.2 and is indeed a public allowance, under due restrictions, of the natural right of resistance and self preservation, when the sanctions of society and laws are found insufficient to restrain the violence of oppression". I wonder what happened to "the natural RIGHT of resistance and self preservation" (from domestic criminals and out of control governments). Have not the "sanctions of society and laws" been shown "insufficient to restrain the violence of oppression"?

-In 1936 the government added a "safe storage" requirement on the owners of handguns and rifles to "prevent the guns falling into the wrong hands" Where have we heard that one before, and how often do the British police use that particular requirement to harass what is left of the British gun owning community?

As a direct consequence of the 1920 gun control act, not only did Britain not have "a rifle in every cottage" but they had to ask American citizens to send them every type of rifle and handgun at the outbreak of WWII, so British people would have some means of defending their homes and islands against the Nazi hordes massing across the English Channel. Americans responded by sending every type of firearm to the unarmed and helpless people of Britain. No surprise, but at the end of the war the British people did not get to keep the guns, the government seized many of them back and dumped them in the sea. Such was the British government's gratitude to the American public and distrust of their own people.

-In 1946 "self defence" was no longer considered a good reason for requiring a police issued firearms certificate. The slippery slope got even steeper.

-In 1953 carrying any type of weapon for self defence was made illegal, making the streets even safer for the criminal element and giving great "crime control" soundbites to the police and press.

You're preaching to the choir, pal. Nobody here wants to ban guns except for some socdem cucks.

what did he mean by this?

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-In 1967 a chap by the name of Harry Roberts blasted three policemen to death in a London street using a 9mm Luger pistol and the British government restricted shotguns for the very first time. Try to figure out the logic… handgun used… shotguns licensed for the first time in British history. Opportunistic, or am I just being a cynical bastard?

-In 1982 black powder muzzle loader shooters and handloaders were required to allow police inspection of their security arrangements to ensure "safe storage" of the powder they possessed, meaning that agents of the state could demand entry into an Englishman's home at any time of day or night without a warrant.

-In 1988 all semi-automatic rifles were banned, including pump action rifles. The personal property of law abiding people was once again outlawed and seized. All the guns were registered and easy to find, that is to say, all the legally held ones.

-In 1996 all handguns were banned and they too were all registered with the agents of the state. Well, need I say more? You get the picture. Also in 1996 carrying any knife with a blade longer than 3 inches was made illegal. Presumably one cannot stab someone to death with a three inch knife. You now had to show "good reason" for carrying a knife, the presumption of innocence, until proven guilty of a crime, was gone.

In England today you cannot carry any type of weapon for self defence and you cannot use a firearm to defend your home, family, or property. The gun and weapon laws have made crime safe for criminals and the other violent thugs and miscreants who infest our country today.

-In 2006 the government passed the Violent Crime Reduction Act. The VCRA restricted all "realistic" toy/replica guns. Now Britons were not to be trusted with even imitation non-firing replicas. "Violent crime reduction" was once again used as the smokescreen to enact oppressive laws and deprive the law abiding of their property. As part of the VCRA an airgun can no longer be purchased by mail order and the name and address of the purchaser must be registered with the seller. Is the bigger picture now getting clearer?

-In 2009 talks with the British government were started to devolve airgun laws to the Scottish parliament. If and when the Scottish parliament is given the power over airgun legislation the Parliament has vowed to ban the sale of all airguns in Scotland. In the coming years, England will follow the Scottish example and airgun registration and an eventual licensing system will follow. The slippery slope is now in a vertical freefall.

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Meanwhile, the politicians, the celebrities, the royal bloodline, the crown, the throne are all very heavily guarded and protected with fully automatic rifles, submachine guns, short barrels.

Guns for we, none for thee.

Britain is now a political black hole. There is no chance for independence there anymore. There is no more political debate that will take place in Britain. There is no communism, there is no Not Socialism, there is nothing except the statism enforcement agent pointing a rifle in your face and telling you exactly what you will think and do. These people live to get their taste of power. Being the chosen to wield the guns, and to lord over the plebeians. This is the result of hundreds of years of a monarchy. The people are brainwashed into being submissive willing slaves.

Free people own guns.
Slaves do not.
No master ever allowed a slave to own guns.

If you are a leftist in the U.S. arm yourself with as much firepower as you can afford to purchase, trade for, barter, beg or steal.
It is incredibly important.
We will not be left, right, libertarians, republicans, rhinos, democrats, green party, blue dogs, anarchist, bunkers, spooks (sorry my understanding of leftist factions needs work) or anything else here if guns get banned. We will be like the British. Unarmed noguns slaves and subjects begging the state for protection under their monopoly on force. A camera on every street, in every home. Police entering your house without a warrant at any time to sweep for hate speech, to sweep for hockey sticks, screwdrivers.

Guns are all that matters. Guns give us the ability to convince others to join our side with writing, speeches, protests. Guns and only fucking guns.

Leave or I'll bully you into a leftcom trap

I know I am. But I think it is incredibly important to pressure the message of gun ownership to anyone that will listen. Thanks for letting me post my thread and being supportive. It means much to me. I will always defend your right to gun ownership till I have no breath in my lungs to talk about it, or I have no ammunition left in my magazine to defend it with. Thanks again for letting my thread stay up.

My good man many of us are gun owners. THE most important liberty is that of gun ownership, for he who has no way to defend his liberties can at the turn of the wind lose them

If you care so much about my right to own a gun why don't you support the state issuing free guns and ammo to me? Also why are you okay with a separate military from the civilian population in the form of the armed forces, instead of just making it a responsibility of all citizens to defend our own territory collectively?

this. i'm with him when it comes to gun rights themselves but i'm just really skeptical of what these non-leftist gun owners are and would fight for. them being with us when it comes to gun rights and only gun rights doesn't really mean a whole lot alone

I'm worried about this too OP

Out of curiousity, since this is a gun thread, where does one start in regard to purchasing, practicing with, and learning more about firearms? I've always been a massive 2nd ammendment supporter but never had the money to get a gun of my own. Now that I can, I have no idea where to even begin.

Go to a gun store, buy a gun, maybe wait a week depending on state, collect gun.

it's really that easy? Thing is though its like any hobby, there is so many choices, big differences between them. Like if I go with a handgun, what caliber, what maker, ect? was just getting at I have no idea where to even start

get a glock 9mm

Depends. What state do you live and what's your budget?

user just get a Ruger 10/22 rifle it's a great starting gun and ammo is cheap

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that's not inherently a bad idea really

that's not inherently a bad idea really

Last time I tried to make a thread like this on /k/ I was bombarded with "neck yourself commie Jew". Your board has been overtaken by Holla Forums, old /k/ was legit libertarian, if you liked guns then you were cool in their books. Sort your fucking board out m8, expel the freedom haters.

Don't be a faggot and honestly be thankful. Our gun laws are much more relaxed than about 90% of countries. Take the course and you get access to all kinds of cool shit.

Be thankful m8, our gun laws are actually pretty based when you look at most of the world, even some US states are worse than us. Just do the course and buy your shit.

this

Haha nice spooks. Rights are irrelevant, the gov't will just take them away if they feel like it. Your rights are not an invisible imaginary force field that protects you from physical reality. Whether or not you have rights or licenses doesn't matter, what matters is if you have the actual gun.

Either online, or at a gun store. If you buy them from a gun show you get to skip the background check, which is fun.
Gun ranges. Where I'm at it's $10 to rent a gun, ammo boxes run from $20-$25 based on caliber for a box of 50 rounds.
Read stuff online or browse /k/.

Most states don't have a waiting period, you can walk into a store and buy a gun, they hand it to you right then and there.

Get a handgun for concealed carry because it's the most easy to access and ready for a firefight, carrying around a rifle would attract unwanted attention. Also off-body carry is a bad idea, so get yourself a shoulder holster and hide it under a coat.
9mm is the standard choice, but most cops carry .40 S&W handguns, I believe.
Glock or Sig Sauer. The latter is higher quality but more expensive.

It's kind of pointless though. When you purchase a gun they give you an owner's manual full of gun safety standards, which is mostly common sense. Don't point is at what you don't intend to shoot, keep your finger of the trigger, etc.

agreed, get your shit together, /k/.

friendly reminder that congressmen and other politicians in the 70s-80s cracked down on cheap handguns/"Saturday Night Specials" all because poor households in the city could own one.

Nice sub2000. Do you actually know/have practiced with everything in your aid kit?

Firearm safety classes should just be part of primary education. Even if you never own a gun, there's no excuse not to know basic safety around them.

Everytime I have spoken with a /k/ommando on Holla Forums they always sperg out about how commies hate guns. Are they all this autistic?

How exactly do you think a revolution happens? Plastic spoons?

We support gun rights idiot

Don't worry kommando, we all pretty much support gun rights here

Just show them this: a /k/omrade working as a army doctor in Rojava.

That's cool, was thinking glock either 9mm or 45 (G21). Do you think the 45 might be too much for a first timer?

CNY, from what I've seen its pretty lax, you need a license for a handgun but rifles and shotguns you do not, but I may be wrong. Budget is like 300-500 probably

Will look into it, thank you for the heads up

TY for the pointers