Can't subdue a 16 year old with a tazer or his hands

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Shoulda listened to Huey.

Doesn't really work as well in europe as in the US. Police aren't literally terrorists over there.

Wouldn't have had happened if he just cooperated and been nice to the policeman

How braindead you have to be to oppose armed men that have right to shot you and pretty often use that right?

Isn't this just the security desk at some bank in some third world country?

Here's the problem bootlicking cuk

in this particular case it's not really his fault. why did he try to take a magazine from the officer's belt?

Bootlicking or not, you have to have no self preservation instinct to stand up to an armed men while being in disadvantaged position and with no means to defend yourself.
Its pretty obvious that if you cant fight, and cant run away your best bet is just to cooperate

He was suicidal?

Americunts are the scum of the earth. Please nuke ASAP Kim.

Honestly I think most of these cop shootings are eugenic in nature

You've got to be pretty fucking stupid to live in a nation where cops will use any excuse to gun you down and still try to grapple with an arresting officer

So the cop did him a favor?

probably on drugs or high. great excuse for the officer because he can totally tell his boss "i feared for my life 'cause this hungry skeleton kid had the power of THE DEVIL in him, sir!"

so then the cop LITERALLY did the right thing, is what you're saying?

Shinny or not, how does the cop is supposed to know if the kid has a knife, gun or some dangerous shit?

Saying that somebody is not a threat because he is short/weak/skinny/a woman etc is a bullshit excuse

It's really interesting how anti-climactic death is when compared to how it's depicted in media.

Jesus Christ, I can understand saying the guy's stupid for grappling with a cop, but those comments saying his death was good are someting else entirely.

Depends on what kind of death

Yes, standard procedure for law enforcement is (and should be) if the person seems suicidal then
say "do it faggot" and then finish them off if they seem like too much of a pussy to follow through

It's right there in the rules

That would be pretty awesome tbh
A state mandated mobile euthanasia squads, just imagine

It was a flashlight. Also if it was the magazine what the fuck was the cop scared of anyway? That he'd throw it at him really hard without a gun?

Jason Unruhe was right. There is no revolutionary potential in the first world.

Oh shit the kid has a magazine! It isn't as if you need a gun or something to actually fucking use one

How unexpected.

iirc the kid had apparently held someone hostage

How do you know if anyone has a knife, gun, or some other dangerous shit? Can cops just shoot anyone they arrest because they all might have guns?

Either way, being a cop is a risky job. We don't need coward cops that shoot people at the first sign of anything that can vaguely be construed as a threat.

No, but they should be on high alert

Isn't it weird to hate black people using servile stereotypes while being this gleefully servile?

They kinda do…

Cant unsee.

Stupid lefties! Cops need guns to protect themselves from violent thugs who try to steal their gun

I suppose "should" is a better term for what I was trying to say

Whats the alternative? Have disarmed cops?

The issue in a lot of these cases seems to be a lack of backup. If there were two guys there they could have easily restrained him. Moreover I don't understand why cops aren't given training in Judo or something for grappling. If they actually do get grabbed in close quarters their weapons are useless, and if they can't restrain someone without using them this shit happens.

How's the cop supposed to know what the kid is grabbing for?

Proprioception? Basic sight? I don't understand the question

Why disarm or detain someone when you can just shoot them dead? You need to start thinking more like a psychopath devoid of empathy, it'll help you understand the burger mindset.

Judo wont save you from knife, broken glass or just straight fucking punch to the face

I dont get why anyone it this threat seriously suggests that a cop should use hand to hand combat to disarm or pacify anybody.

Good point, countries where the cops don't have guns have noticeably higher (definitely not lower) violent crime rates

if somebody really wants you to kill them there is literally nothing wrong with doing it

Holly shit, have you ever been in a street fight? It doesn't seem so because you have no fucking time nor opportunity to focus on details in situations like this, everything happens in a blink of an eye

I love that tasers became a meme for a nonviolent approach but now they only come out to kill old people with heart conditions and shit

Yes you condescending retard. Why are you so desperate to defend the cops as if they're supposed to be on the level of amateurs with no training whatsoever

Nah they should lift themselves up by the bootstraps and do it themselves. No handouts

Teaser is not really effective, especially when the suspect is wearing layer clothes or just thick clothes

Honestly my best bet on non lethal approach would just be make cops patrol in pairs and train the to use batons

it's not that criticizing cops is wrong, it's that criticizing them for illegitimate reasons only fuels unnecessary fire, and helps the right more than it does the left.

Are you trolling or do you really think using your eyes and knowing what somebody grabbed AFTER they grabbed it off you is advanced tactics (protip: if you're shooting them with """"your gun"""" they probably didn't grab """"your gun"""")

Because the difference between amateur and non amateur is really thin in a real streetfight

There are dozens of articles on the internet about some boxing champ getting killed by knife or just overwhelmed

Riot porn will forever make my dick hard.

UK cops are better than US cops at least so I guess that's probably the immediate answer

Because not all perps have a weapon? Case in point being that guy, and as I said, if they do get grabbed they're going to have a tough time actually using one of their weapons to protect themselves, if they're competent at grappling though and the guy isn't a brick shithouse they would be able to regain control of the situation or at least have a better chance of doing so. The entire point of police training should be to give them the tools and skills to always remain in control of a situation, as soon as they lose it this shit happens (although admittedly him pointing a gun at the kid who was 6 feet away is "in control").

We all saw the video, we're not watching a heat of the moment, close quarters gun discharge

On what basis? Better trained? Better equipped? Fight with crime better? Or what? Because i dont get in with way they are supposed to be better

We're only going by the "kill civilians" metric here, but yes crime in the UK also isn't higher per capita than the US so there's that too (though I doubt that gap would ever close because it's burgerstan)

Good luck with that, when the lone cop is struggling with one person friend of said person comes around and stabs or just beats the cop, gg

Cops aren't special forces. Their training is shit, and if it comes to risking their life or shooting some perp they'll pull the trigger pretty much every time. They have no idea what training or weapons the other guy has or if one of his buddies won't come out nowhere. If it came down to it you'd do the same.

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I have a few questions about this video. Firstly how does he go from being in a largly advantageous position of being on top of him in on ground to letting him up? Why doesn't he have a partner? And why not shoot him in the leg or some shit first if you've got to do it.

Is this not an issue that should be looked at then?

Yes, we're all on the same page there. If only there was a way to change that…

I've done basic Judo for a little bit so I'm by no means an expert but the kid actually had him tied up with his legs. The cop was doing some ineffectual armpulling instead of just sitting on his chest to control him and once he released his grip the kid just stood up. As to why this necessitated 6 gunshots? Who the fuck knows what the cop was thinking.

Because being on to is not an advantageous position, he has a limited point of view and both of his hands are occupied
Because you always aim for the center body mass, that means torso, its the biggest target, it isnt that lethal and its harder to miss than other body parts, on the other hand shooting leg is a retarded idea because its a smaller target, it moves quickly and doesnt pacify the suspect since you can run just well with shoot leg if you are high on adrenaline, not to mention that it can be just as lethal as shoot in the torso

There's mo reason that the police should be so easy to get into. Being an officer should require a university education, no different than any other career where your action has lives in people's hands. No different from the military, cops in action should not be run of the mill GED dropouts.

To deny otherwise is to deny the authenticity of of the level of restraint and requirement of other jobs where lives are in their hands that require far more a bar.

Why have tasers when a target could have a pacemaker making it lethal anyway? Additionally you seem to simultaneously acknowledge that something unexpected can happen, while assuming that a cop will actually be able to prevent himself being grabbed. He could be chasing after someone round a corner, then as he rounds the corner be jumped before he can react. You also have the fact that not every situation requiring restraint is dealing with some petty criminal on the street, sometimes cops are called to wrangle people with mental health disorders or drunk/drugged people at a friend/family members house.

Protip: if you're holding your gun, maybe the kid grabbed your taser and is about to stun you with it, then while you're writhing on the ground he'll take your gun and shoot you.

That's not even a plausible explanation to what happened here

Maybe this or maybe that, what's important is it didn't happen.

That's the problem. They're GED fucks who have a job that require a bar far higher than what's set for them. They are simply inconsistent and incompatible with the job offered to them, which should require precision, not gut reaction.

There is literally nothing wrong with summary execution.

Agreed, protect yourself from cops. Always shoot first.

CAN'T CORNER THE DORNER

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Duh, that's why people fight for police reform. With all that money that the federal government throws at police departments to buy tanks and grenade launchers they never even fucking use you'd think they could raise the bar for who gets to be a cop and how extensive their training is.

Right now in some states you can be a high school dropout with just 3 months of training and still get a gun and a badge to "brodegd beoble's freedums:DD".

Does anyone have that bait image comparing this guy to the weedy little fuck that shot up a church?

When you're in a situation, maybes are all you have to go on. The kid grabbed something off you. Let's say you can see clearly that it is your magazine. Why's he so keen on getting your magazine? Maybe he's got a gun that only needs a magazine to make it lethal, you don't know.

They do. Control, contain, protect the ruling class.

No, they aren't. There should be simulations of all possible events in training that neglect the possibilities of maybes, just like any other career where people's lives are in your hands. Maybe is an unacceptable position for the job at hand. "Maybe" and platitudes as to why a family member is dead, is why American's hate their police force.

"The Wall Of Heroes", with a total of 12 confirmed kills between them.

This bickering about what the individual cop should have done is a bottomless pit of what ifs and maybes that leads nowhere, while he could have managed the situation without killing the kid in the end what he did is the result of his training and a lack of backup. Individual cases themselves aren't the issue, the issue is a systemic. Bootlickers whining that cops are in danger too have a point, even if you view cops themselves as the equivalent of feudal knights who just protect the rich, in an altercation a cop is going to minimize risk (act in his self interest) even if that results in killing someone.

The problems I can see here are:
A) The cop, a grown man, could not subdue a skinny 16 year old physically, which as I've already said could be solved by providing training.
B) The cop had no backup, why lone cops patrol when they could get into situations that require backup is beyond me.

Noguns confirmed. Hitting the leg is not easy. Plus the gun is a lethal weapon, so using it in a non-lethal manner is stupid. You could still hit an artery and kill him

The guy you're thinking of is Micah. The virgin who got kicked out of the army reserves for stealing panties and was blown up with an rc toy.

Fair enough, I do live in noguns land sadly.

You are an idiot. This is not meant as an ad-hominem or an insult. I'm informing you because you don't seem to know. You have no idea what you're talking about, and yet you are still talking about it. Human beings are unpredictable, especially in confrontation situations. You are literally saying that cops should be trained to predict the unpredictable.

Bootlicking cuckold.

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Maybe fascists don’t really believe in there ideology and only exist to protect capitalism.

So I guess you guys would spare reactionary worker's who actively aided your enemies?

sparing*

cus they can just shoot anyone they can't deal with dummy

its just more economical

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Funny how there's a socdem flag who makes exactly the same argument.

If they can't predict human behavior, and they're just doing their job, a job in which human lives are at risk with gut instinct

Why shouldn't people be afraid of the police if their protocol is as thin as their pencil like dicks

By this exact same logic, people should be defended for gunning down cops for little to no reason just because they might have done something dangerous.

I'm pretty sure about 100% of cops have some sort of repressed Paraphilia related to parental authority in the typical American household. There's no way they don't get off on the power of putting someone between their legs and handcuffing them.

It's why I'm never surprised when I hear about a cop raping someone. It's just the nature of the easy way people can become cops without much effort at all.

So how did he betray your race?

is that your ass bb?

Well if you need to use lethal force (he didn't) you aim for center of mass because otherwise you're likely to miss (wasting the shot, losing some time before the threat reaches you, and hitting whatever is behind the target). And per my ex-cop father, cops are trained so that once you start shooting you don't stop shooting until they're fucking dead. Officially you're supposed to shoot until they stop moving (or some similar standard) but everyone makes sure they're dead because dead people can't sue.

Yes, that's my ass. And whenever you see a Stalin pic the post was made by Stalin you dumb nigger.

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Not being able to pick up on sarcasm's a telltale sign of autism, m8.

How the fuck is this white guy who got shot by a Hispanic cop a traitor to the white race? You fucking faggots over at Holla Forums aren't actually pro-white, you're just a bunch of edgy ROTC kids who jerk off to men in boots. If Holla Forums had any real principles it would ban all pro-Trump posters.

DORN IT UP HARDER

Call them what they are: Bootlicking cucks. Remember that nazis ended up killing tens of millions of white Chads, and none of them bat an eye at that, even if they violently proclaim themselves to be 'pro-white'.

Awesome.

I fucking hate cops you guys.