Where did it go so wrong?

Why do people still regurgitate this shit?

???

you mean that shitty post he made that started the whole "the left can't meme" meme?

Deleting /new/, then resurrecting Holla Forums as le containment board

proofs?

it was never that great to begin with
but politics made it infinitely worse

Don't matter if they were successful or not, they legit tried. Hell, I remember back in 2012 when YouTube had a buncha resident stormfags who'd spam the comment sections of a lotta the most watched videos fulla that "ANTI-RACIST is a codeword for deeply triggering and problematic" shit.

how would I be able to prove that?

this guy
revleft.space/vb/members/30366-Rafiq

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rafiq posts didn't start the meme. that post was forced a year later.

it pretty much did. once the image found its way to Holla Forums it went mainstream.

it still has good points by the way, particularly for what it implies about those who try to enshrine every shitty aspect of imageboard dwellers into leftism

fuck off rafiki

the actual rafiq thinks imageboards are too deg.enerate for him

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Newfags and retardation. It's why /fit/ is no longer about lifting, why Holla Forums is no longer about funnybooks, fuck even /biz/ is about flipping coins instead of autistic businessfahd.

Fear is what killed 4chan
If you think about it
Almost everything bad that happened
On these kind of sites stems from fear

What is the point of anonymity
When everyone is scared of the consequences
Of what they say and how it impacts the world?

Swarmfront

Fuck I love Rafiq, our guy
The most accurate description of Holla Forums I've seen.

Why are you posting poetry?

I don't know though, 4chan's entire culture was about being edgy for laughs. It just seems like eventually it went to far. Maybe it really was started by stormfront, but either way the seed was there. Being racist, a literal nazi, anti-egalitarian, woman hater etc. are just the edgiest positions that anons could come up with.

for how much nazis complain about postmodernism they seem to exemplify it more than any other group.

Poetry or not, user hits the nail on the head.

Coock made two key mistakes: bring Holla Forums back, and ban GG. After his cuckold revelation and subsequent rectalragbarok, he couldn't show his trip in any board without being shat on. That's about it.

What's the issue then?
Nazis do not think they are being edgy
They see themselves as the pinnacle of morality
And they are definitely not doing it for laughs
They are doing it because they are scared

This kills the imageboard

Ultimately it started going downhill with Chanology, but the Trump/Kekistan cancer did way more damage to the place than any other event so far. 4chan is a website that is long past its prime and should have been ended years ago. If Moot really cared he would have killed the site after 2010, 2013 at the absolute latest. Instead of an early-2000s anime/video game fansite we now have a giant subreddit/Facebook group that only gets worse with each passing year.

Reactionary infiltration vectored through gaming and anime. Which sucks because all my favorite places to discuss vidya are now cesspools of ideology.

Cause it's true

Because Holla Forums is full of liars and they can't stand the fact that leftism thrives only in highly moderated safe spaces (ie reddit, SA, NeoGAF, tumblr, wikipedia) where a tight-knit cabal of moderators have absolute control of the discourse.

Because it's true, and modern Holla Forums is too cucked to admit they got their political landscape from being shilled to. Swarmfront actively tried to subvert Holla Forums – some of the Stormfront hreads are even archived IIRC.

Most of modern Holla Forums is too newfaggy and underageb& to know of the fight the lolberts of the board put up to try to tell them to fuck off.

I’d rather not become retarted.

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Post them. Go ahead.

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Seriously when was 4chan not shit? I posted in 2011 when it was right-Libertarian and everyone then always talked as if the board wasn't always right wing propaganda, but everyone says even /new/ was right wing before Holla Forums, so was 4chan ever not far right wing?

As Lenin said Left Communism is a disorder.

so what was this mythical apolitical or centrist or left-wing 4chan like pre-2010? Do we have archives pre-2010? It's almost hard to believe.

Shhhh, that goes against the narrative of 4chan being a civil leftist paradise subverted by le EVIL RACIST SEXIST woman hater white male stormfront hackers on steroids.

Why did you post two conflicting ideas?

Degenerate weed-loving anime-watching nihilist libertarians aren't far right-wing, sorry.

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So what shitty bbs board full of 50 year olds turned you into commies?

Stormfront didn't subvert them, they just so happened to move in line with the ideology of stormfront. Believing that stormfront spamming is the reason Holla Forums is like it is now is like believing that "meme magic" and Holla Forums were what actually got Trump elected.

it is so pathetic how you Holla Forumsyps design these made-up "spooky leftist karltural marx narratives" so you can offer your counter-narrative about how everything you do is right.
4chan wasn't always naziland, literally ask anyone who's actually worth more than the posts he makes.

web.archive.org/web/20121031043409/http://www.stormfront.org/forum/t863802/
Sure thing, bruh. Now kill yourself.

You're fucking deluded if you think 4chan is the same politically speaking as it was ten years ago. Mostly apolitical racists and racist libertarians aren't the same as the neocon neonazi redditors that plague the site today.

Also /n/ was a smallish board back then, now Holla Forums-Reddit consumed the entirety of 4chan.

Yeah, I remember tha old days when 4chan frowned against le evil racism too, white male scum was not allowed to post without permission from a P.O.C and and heretical A Wyatt Mann cartoons were a bannable offense, yes siree.

Holy shit, no wonder 4chan turned into such NEONAZI hellhole, the hundreds of thousand of anonymous 4channers didn't even stood a chance against such overwhelming horde of super evil stormfront hackers.

You're so delusional, that you need therapy.

Anybody remember the old school 4Chan racism of shitty KFC memes and generic nigger jokes?

Wow….so this is the power…. of leftist intellectuals…

You're lying, before the SWARMFRONT invasion of 2012 4chan was a friendly website free of racism and nazis.

Man, fuck off back to Stormfront. It's obvious you ain't one of this board's usual posters.

Are strawmen the best you can do?

read the FAQ to stop sounding like a retard anytime

pic related

4chan was more often ironically communist than it was nazi back in the heyday. A major theme of the board used to be the USSR's anthem, and if you look at old material like the lulz a corruption of lol soundtrack it's included in there.

What did they mean by this?

I don't even know why they lurk here, they get so easily upset every time you say anything that might make them look bad (or even good).

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4chan, or really moreso Holla Forums than anything, used to do what was the most edgy thing that would get the most gawking reactions at the time. Chanology destroyed this over time and slowly but surely attracted moralfags who were fixated on "da good fight of 4chan and anonymous". There used to be posts on tons of other sites about all the "good" things Holla Forums had done.

It's worse than that, they're a bunch of newfag redditors.

You're right, but there's a difference between being edgy, and being openly fascist. Today it tends more to the latter. Before, there was even some leftist content.

Fpbp

It wasn't stormfront. It was mostly users from vnnforum and thephora that gathered on 4chon.net after moot shut down /new/ and /r9k/ back in 2010.

It was always shit, that's the meme.

4chan's culture used to be less political and more the form of a clandestine childhood clubhouse in the woods. Of course, it's not a 1 to 1 analogy, the anonymity always killed any community in the sense of a fraternity of individuals coming together, but we can even see 4chan's early identification as the clandestine ingroup with the joke that it was like fight club. Never talk about it. Don't explain memes to people. In fact, at best memes in public were SUPPOSED to be nonsense. People often laughed at the misinterpretations of memes and the language of the ingroup. The community coalesced around whether or not you knew the language, if you didn't then people would tell you to lurk more. People would raid radio shows, other internet communities, habbo, whatever. Which isn't to say 4chan didn't engage in politics, it was relatively early in its life that the V for Vendetta mask became EFG's mask. There are certain political connotations to that, but even then the politics were odd to say the least. Holla Forums ran conservative radio hosts off the air, but it also shouted nigger and drew swastikas wherever it decided to raid. It would simultaneously drive camwhores to tears with slurs and harassment, but later engage in weird activism like Chanology.

But anyways, I have the notion that 4chan's ultimate takedown by the stormfags is more imminent to /new/ as a board than it was to 4chan as a format. Holla Forumstards were ground zero of 4chan, and they enjoyed their status as being a shithole that had no standards of decency. It made the board funny, and it kept the ingroup insulated from people who were too serious to handle the banter. It was kind of a feedback loop of being a test of how much people would tolerate (hence, old memes about looking for child porn), but also serving as that core language you had to know to really belong.

So where I think /new/ was likely doomed to its nazism is rooted in how all (or most) of the boards seem to have this contradiction of being both a shithole and a place taken seriously. Take /fit/ for example. I don't really go there anymore, but it used to be a board centered around elitism over the proper kinds of fitness routines, and also the whole alpha PUA kind of dating advice thing. The joke was that everybody on the board thought everybody else was a weak manlet that probably never got laid, but at the same time they took each other's advice pretty seriously and really did try to live up to that core board culture. Or I guess going back to Holla Forums. Holla Forums was a self-conscious shithole, it knew it was bad, but it also took seriously the whole pretension to being legion. It could change the world, it was a force for good. The V for Vendetta mask was a farce and taken seriously.

That dynamic also took place on /new/, it was inevitable that the nazism would both serve as farce and as real language of understanding. The board was originally more libertarian, but people would post holocaust denial shit to challenge each other and eventually it became another farcical meme turned reality. I think it has something to do with the notion that 4chan can be a place without inhibition. Everybody always exists on that edge of thinking that the person they are talking to is a fucking moron, but people still come there acting as though it is a more legitimate source of knowledge than Reddit, or Tumblr, or Neogaf, or old niche forums. In fact, they looked down on (still sort of do) every other format as having social pressures and pretensions that are derived from their lack of anonymity.

Actually, I shouldn't say Holla Forums thought it was a force for good. Holla Forums enjoyed being chaotic. It was board culture to attack people who spurned it in some way.

Never really bothered with most other 4chan boards, but this fuckwad definitely made Holla Forums a shithole for years on end though, and I'm not even referring to gamergate.

Bro to whom? He was a cocksucker who shat up other boards with Holla Forums filth nearly every time he posted with his trip.

Man, I remember when the most annoying thing about 4chan was all the Holla Forums shit spilling over the place. I think I'll take that over Holla Forums shit, but that might be nostalgia talking.

It's not, Holla Forums's little brother edginess was still a significant part in site culture. What we have now is the worst kind of normalfag infestation possible.

People liked moot, and they liked to hate him as a kind of ritual. If the boards had really wanted to, they could have fucked with moot much harder than they ever did. People even went out of their way to sincerely go hang out with him irl when he would announce he was going to be somewhere.

I think the most hatred he got were the moments when he really fucked with the boards, like filtering Holla Forums or blacking it out, or much later deleting /new/ and /r9k/. He was probably at peak, genuine distaste when he finally left, since Holla Forums and /r9k/ never really forgave him for deleting them, and I think a lot of retarded Holla Forums kids looked at him and the mods suspiciously for how they handled gamergate.

who /sp/ here? It's sad to ser what happened to the board.

I've only heard about it in other boards. I guess it was like 420chan is now or something?

As a retarded Holla Forums kid, I hated him for years before GG because he literally turned the board into Holla Forums 2.0 when he got tired of Holla Forums itself..

As a guy from old /a/ and /jp/, I can tell you that moot fucking sucks, dude.

I miss it.

lol. Alrighty then, let's assume the Swarmfront shit worked and the 10 stormfags who participated in that thread all shilled for nazism. Let's assume that each of them knew 10 other nazis from sites like VNN and 4chon who joined in their efforts and all of them participated 24/7 shilling nazism on 4chan. Now let's assume that small group managed to magically turn the hundreds of thousands of people who browsed 4chan at the time from peaceful libertarians and apolitical centrists into evil baby-killing gamergate nazis.

If it was THAT easy, why aren't you doing it? Holla Forums has roughly 1000 active posters plus around 100,000 subscribers on reddit leftist communities and discords, it should be even easier to turn 4chan from evil baby-raping fascist kkk sexist neonazis into le enlightened leftists, correct?

because we don't want a bunch of people who get their political views from memes on our side.

Holla Forumsddit, everyone.

4chan was a lot more apolitical back in the day. It was never good but it was a lot more about absurdist humor than lol NIGGERS.

Yeah.

This. Though if anything, Project Chanology pushed 4chan to be more reactionary.

My apologies, next time I'll get my image memes from the sanctioned Leftypol™ facebook™ groups for teenaged proletariats™.

Thoughts?

that guy in your pic gets the bullet too. anything else?

Disgusting.

I didn't even know this existed.

It's a Russian communist and has very little to do with us.

stormfront astroturfing, then when tens of thousands of newfags came in with the elections a lot got converted by the nazis there (although most synthesize basic bitch conservatism with hardline fascism to form alt-right) and then the AIDS started spreading over every board

See

Why did I expect any different

never change Holla Forums

Never change, Holla Forums.

You never actually disproved it.

In fact, you asked for evidence, and it was provided. Your attempt to refute it rests on basically expecting everyone else to go above-and-beyond and have in-depth archival of all Stormfag activity so you can't assume that small portions of it are the entirety of what was going on. Also, you're assuming that the entirety of 4Chan was converted, which is some pretty heavy newfaggotry.

You seem to like tacky "let's assume" stuff, so I'll humor you. Imagine that an attacker shot up a mini-mall, got like 10 people. Eyewitnesses saw it and attested to it. But there was only one camera, and it only got him shooting one guy.

Now imagine that there was a guy on the jury who insisted on being provided video footage of every shot being fired and wouldn't accept eyewitness accounts or existing forensic or video evidence.

That's you, except with 4Chan drama.

Such a shame this insult suddenly dissapeared, it's a good replacement for "spooked".

Whatever happened with -fags to begin with? Suffixfag as an insult in general just seemed to peter out and disappear as the years went by, and now you have self proclaimed "oldfags" using 'normie', a term I suspect was introduced from /r/4chan users.

Holla Forums is full of charlatans. They might fool the average redditor newfag looking to fit in but anyone that isn't retarded can see right through their attempts at revisionism.

And I questioned it, rightfully so. If it was such a MASSIVE operation, how come the only trace is a single threat from 5 years ago with 10 posters?
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Unlike the chans, threads on Stormfront never expired, you had plenty of time to archive them all. Should be easy since these astroturfing operations were all over the place, right? :^)
This has to be most fucking stupid comparison I've ever seen here, holy shit. Good thing the real world doesn't functions like your stupid example eh?(USER WAS BANNED FOR EVADING AND BEING A LITTLE SHIT IN GENERAL)

Both parts of your question are false assumptions. Nobody needed more than 10 people to spam 4Chan, and it's unlikely those were the only people involved. Kimmo Alm barely needed one person to do it, assuming he's a human being. You're also assuming it's the only trace - it's not, it's the one thing you asked for and got that you're whizzing out desperate fallacies to avoid.

It's not an extraordinary claim, and the evidence is adequate. Most of us don't keep references for everything Stormfront did.

Some guy posted a disingenuous hypothetical in this thread earlier with a Facebook meme and a babbytier understanding of Chan history. You'd get a kick out of that one, I think.

Hahaha, so much for open discussion eh? Like I said, this place is full of LIARS, CON MEN and CHARLATANS. the fact that you're so afraid of people asking for evidence for a SIMPLE claim enough to ban it should be a wake up call for any lurkers ITT. Your bullshit can't stand up to scrutiny, so you get to use your ban hammer to protect your little safe space. Might as well change the board title to Holla Forums - SJW BRAINLETS to reflect what you actually are. Good luck with the bans, I have thousands of tor nodes left. :^)(USER WAS LAUGHED AT FOR THIS POST)

ALWAYS

Don't tease him, he's a victim of the jerkop brutality. =[[[

Holy fucking shit.

I miss the -fagging a lot too

normie is a /r9k/ term for "neuro-normal" or something like that, someone who is functionally sociably, even if not a full blown chad

"civilians" as in "non-channers" were called normalfags.
This was at a time when going online everyday for entertainment was just weird, let alone spending more than two hours on a single run.
Nobody would tell their friends about being on a chan. Nobody knew what they were.
Today it's common that a vid of a man splashing against the tarmac gets millions of views, and who didn't come across gore, but stuff like that, loli, or pic related were obscure as fuck. Without people constantly online like today, pis like these were the weirdest things.
There was a deep rift in mentality between Holla Forumstards and normalfags.

This happened.

heh

Bill Clinton?

I'm sorry, are you implying you do not support pic related?

You're only Nazis as far as porkies (Who ironically in America are 50% Jews) symbolically pander to your classcucked "Humans vs Orcs" brainrot. (See the "Muslim Ban", the DACA which even if repealed wouldn't significantly reduce immigration, etc.)
Otherwise you're just run of the mill neocon useful idiots that will support any war, degradation or exploitation thrown your way. Just as long as it hurts the "niggers and spics" worse, and makes some liberals Jews mad. And even then you're willing to flip flop (See Syria, see "Drain the swamp!", see North Korea, see internet privacy, etc.) rather than admit buyer's remorse.

When will you realize that it's all a smokescreen for porky interests and this has been done before? Why the fuck would they even care about you? White workers have been ripped off for centuries, but now those same capitalists are now somehow based White Nationalists™? Is that why they're trying to take away the healthcare of millions of White Americans so that the 1% of the 1% can pay less taxes? (Who are also again - ironically - half Jewish)

Wherever wrong think is not actively censored it will thrive.

Don't forget them unironically liking vaporwave and synthwave music despite those genres being a derivative of disco which the demographic itself consisted of homosexuals and non-white ethnic groups.

Holla Forums is actively censored into the echo chamber we know too well

it's even worse on the Holla Forums's Holla Forums, it's almost a maniacal cult

What posts get censored on half Holla Forums? None.

Kek

I remember when /sp/ was the first real board I browsed on halfchan. The bants, the power rankings, the game threads and the shitposting all have a special place in my heart.
The way the mods just destroyed it was soul crushing, The americans kept trying to save it with the outlels but alas it went out with a wimper.I havent been on their in years now, but last I checked it was 90% generals without any board culture.

Its unironically one my saddest internet memories.

What happened to the board and why?

No really, what posts get censored by mods on half Holla Forums? When is the last time you even went there? It's not nearly are homogeneous as it used to be. Honestly half chan Holla Forums has not been an echo chamber for a very long time, probably at least since late 2014, and is constantly inundated with leftists attempting to debate and poke the hornet's nest.

There is no active politically minded censorship on half chan Holla Forums.

The mods are fucking butchers I tells ya.

I remember when /hm/ opened and they just waited until all the other gaychans had drained into it, and then they banned the word "twink" and all people could comfortably post were bears, old men, and Benedict Cumberbatch. Killed like 5 boards simultaneously just by luring all those people and then censoring the fuck out of them in that time.

Someone please post that ban for showing how Trump is backed by Jews and acts for Jewish interests

The mods (fueled by the admins) started to crack the whip on anything non-sports related.

The common idea of the users was that it was like a sports bar (a place to shoot the shit whilst sports was on in the back ground), however the mods disagreed. There were tons of noticeable incidents of friction between previous posters against the influx of rulefags and janitors. Some that I remember was banning event threads (car chases and the like), banning people for offtopic (and racism), and it started getting really bad when there was a irc leak about how much the mods hated the users. On top of this there were culture shifts like adding flags (beginning of the end) and the rise of generals (IMO the worst thing about chan culture)

I cant remember much (I was most active there about 7 years ago), but i miss it so much due to the sentimental part it had in my life.

Im actually just a racist Holla Forumsfag lurking your guys board but this transcends politics for me

Are you confusing 8/pol/ and 4/pol/ reddit friend?

yes well lenin was the founder of red fascism so I'm not really worried about his shitty opinion

that isn't a meme page that's the facebook page of this russian youtube channel

youtube.com/channel/UCCe_fTqstaz8axIBScs8_Hg

This is all anyone needs to know about /sp/.

came to post this
all the problems were solvable by moderation but none of them did a single thing

got banned a few weeks ago for being a communist
i don't have the screencap but i'll post one if i get banned fo some stupid shit like that again

I saw two people on here get banned for "baiting" because they posted socialist opinions over there, too. I am fairly certain they were doing some major faggotry behind the scenes, because they were not good posters.

this
every containment board will backfire

Holy fuck… thats true…

I think this is it. This is what 100% pure autism looks like.

It's a place that Paul Cockshott used. It's probably what Doug Lain used instead of here.
This place is actually trash by comparison, no "normie" adult will take you seriously if they think you get the majority of your political discourse from here. That wording is off but uno what I mean.

This image found its way to pol? How?

I'm pretty sure this is an elaborate joke.
But I guess that's because I can't even imagine being this autistic.

It's also a shithole that banned people for "ableism" for saying idiot, to the point where entire threads were swallowed up by it, and likely scared off the former from leftist communities for good. Take from that what you will.

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There's a point of effort where the joke itself is just as creepy as the real thing. If I followed Rihanna every day for the next 4 years and took pictures "ironically" no one would be like "oh ok it's normal then"

Generals are awful. I just wish they weren't so necessary.

People who blame moot or the mods completely miss the point of what make a good and interesting community.
What really happened is that the cool and chill kids who were born in the 70s and 80s were replaced by the not-so-cool kids born in the 90s and now the not-so-cool 90s kids are being replaced by the absolute autistic and retarded kids from the 2000s and onwards.

Make Dudes Great Again

The chans were never primarily frequented by 70s/80s kids. Even at it's earliest easily >60% of Holla Forumstards were born in the 90s

this has nothing to do with anything retard. The internet is a billion times bigger than it was 15 years ago. Now any retard in the world can spill his shit anytime at any moment.
Nothing that couldnt be tampered with decent moderation, blocking phoneposting, not making shitfuck norp boards like pol,soc,int, lgbt and so on

GG wasn't (entirely) taken over by Holla Forums yet, but regardless, it doesn't matter at all if they're contradictory. Those were the two events that allowed this horrible timeline to exist, and if he did only one of them, we wouldn't be here now.

underrated post

you're exaggerating. regardless, the quality of theory and other threads should make anyone nostalgic for revleft until the point rafiq stopped posting.

also that's only reddit you dumbass

even if they weren't censored, you still spam threads whenever somebody starts a topic left of center boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/142595767#p142608048 as a substitute for actual arguments.

how the fuck should I know? I can only tell you that it did.

I got it mixed up with another site, but going to revleft reveals a whole different type of torture chamber, where you can go to nearly any old thread and see a substantial portion of the members banned. What a shithole.

yeah, admins went on seemingly random purges back then for shitty reasons, but that seems to have subsided recently

kek, i (>>2097118) used to post in those threads often. Cant believe its been so long bros

gaymer gate

There was an article I read a long time ago called "how the far right won the internet" or something like that. 4chan was a big part of it but Stormfront really couldn't break through for many years (stormcucks had been trying since 4chan began) until Obama was elected.

bullshit. 4chan started in 2003. Moot was 15 then and would mostly have been surrounded by people older than him.

Isn't this after the admin imposed Clintonism tho? Was that just a myth?

the top admin is a liberal, but the horror stories shared here are still an exaggeration considering that posters like rafiq were mostly tolerated while some trots were at least banned for sounding like they were not actually condemning isis
yes

they are always right… in a manner of speech

Site didn't really pick up steam until ~3 years later but yes I suppose technically you're right (though you're also underestimating how much of the "mature" oldfags were just people that started browsing in middle school")

I have no idea how 420chan is but it was glorious, I tell you.

I used to have /mu/ as my mainboard in 2010 but then found out about /sp/ in '11.
Thank you for acknowledging that the mods were/are the driving force of the death of the board.
I still browse it daily and attempt to make funposting (powerrankings, music, porn) threads but there's so little activity that the threads usually only get a few replies and (unless of the mods or janitors is away) the threads are deleted within a few minutes (they unironically do it for free). Hell, you can even get banned nowadays for making fun of American sports ffs.
Ye, there's little board culture left (if any). I remember actually having light-hearted banter with Americans and all the tripdrama etc.

At least once some niche sports are on, the threads are usually very good.

I still argue that generals are/were merely the symptom of the mods cracking down on /sp/. As they are one of the few places where you can have some slightly off-topic talk (excluding match threads)
Pic related
Oh, the memories.

It honestly depends on who you talk to, everyone will give a different date. Chanology, the huge reddit swarm of 2011, or the 2016 the_donald election. Each "event" brought a shitton of people who shat up the board(s) but some of them would eventually be "converted" for lack of a better word because they lurked moar. The problem is that when you keep having a constant influx of people it becomes harder and harder for the board to retain it's quality because the newcomers would take any posts seriously whether or not they were trolling or shitposts. This is how chan "culture" changes. This has led to newfags and redditfags taking edgy racism/muh-joos up as a serious ideology. Bringing Holla Forums and /r9k/ back was a mistake in the long run because it brought the real world into 4chan with fucking feels about not having a gf or debating with a tinfoil hatter who thinks the holocaust never happened. The internet is srs bzn and the acceleration of social media just attracts even more newcomers to the site. 4chan was about taking the piss out of everyone, from the annoying liberal to the racist conservative, the site just embraced pure chaos. I remember at least early Holla Forums made fun of these Nazifucks /new/ to a certain extent as well but they were more libertarians who put on the nazi shit to be contrarians but when flimflam the zimzam came along you could feel the tide was starting to change. I remember pic related was one of Holla Forumss last great moments, now it's just a bunch of kids who think its edgy to be a bootlicking, basic bitch conservative

this and post-irony

It's almost hard to believe 4Chan has gotten more traffic, just because of how dead/inept almost all of the boards are now.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September

Every day I'm more and more convinced that the internet "being ruined" is just a decades-long Shepard tone.

Jesus it really hasn't stopped since Sept. 1993. Holy fuck history really does trap us in a loop. This isn't hell on Earth, it's purgatory

It's quite contrary.
Because it has gotten more traffic, the boards got more dead and inept.
New people never saw the need to integrate themselves with the native close-knit community.

I don't think anything could make me cringe harder

Let's try

Try looking in a mirror

Dotards will literally defend this

Limmy is the line one must not cross
Holla Forums has to go

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wrong thread/board?

Dotards are everywhere mang

All things said, ronery threads where common on every board before /r9k/, but it's true that /r9k/ only worsened everything by making an echo chamber.
Hell, I remember several ronery threads on /c/ out of all places, and they were mainly populated by females.

They indeed were. I miss sharing feels with my fellow /sp/artans.

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read the pic he replied to.

I remember posting music feels with anons on /mu/ back in 2011 back when pic related wasn't associated with fascist faggotry. I liked that each board had its own way of venting frustrations and emotions. /r9k/ just solidified it into one big clusterfuck and gave a platform for people wanting to vent muh feelings, and there is nothing wrong with that. It's just that it gave way for reactionaries to capitalize on people's social alienation and to push them towards fascism

Being a textboard and /jp/ elitist asshole makes me not miss the -fag suffix at all.

the internet was doomed to turn to shit always.
anyway i'm going to say 2007 because it's a good basic answer for one of the reasons that even the worst predictions of the pre-smartphone era about where the internet was gone were utopian compared to what we got.

don't even care to give a developed answer. not angry anymore, just disappointed.

quality posting only thrives in highly moderated safe spaces, or ridiculously obscure places.
i'd say 4chan would be improved by mods firing out bans for low quality posts from the hip, but most of the mods are (as far as i know) the kind of poster who'd be the first to go.

It wasn't even that bad when gamergate started
I'm guessing it's from people who primarily browsed Holla Forums
Things are almost not even recognizable anymore

I mean we have a /christian/ board in the top 10 here on Holla Forums
If it were even 4 years ago this would be a complete farce
I've seen faggots complaining about family guy being too offensive
This is a completely different userbase than we had before

It never went wrong per se. It was a shithole that continued to surpass itself every year and set a new low for just how bad it could get.

I'm excited to see how they're going to top this one. Following 2016 the site is like 90% fascist newfags that just Holla Forumspost on every single board.

Is 420chan any good?

I want to leave 4chan for good but I just don't know where else to go to feed my impulse for imageboards.

7chan

420Chan is more active.

this

Holla Forums /marx/ and /freedu/ are the only boards worth going to as of yet

endchan

Lenin wasn’t a fascist go fuck off.

btw that's a different poster

Relevant
m.youtube.com/watch?v=KG_eNDiV5jk

420chan has its crazed hippies especially on /psy/ but other than that they have pretty solid discussion on boards that aren't just about drugs but they're slow as fuck. Its pretty leftist friendly chan tho. 7chan is dead or slow af haven't visited since 2012

Might be a case of dysphemism treadmill. When an insult is used too often it loses its impact.

Holla Forums and moot leaving.

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…what?

Far better to ban all dissenting opinions like Holla Forums does, is it? This is the most delusional board; you people have absolutely no grip on reality.

nu/pol/ and gamergate