Why do many left wingers hate Putin for banning pro-gay "propaganda" but not hate the USSR for outright criminalising...

Why do many left wingers hate Putin for banning pro-gay "propaganda" but not hate the USSR for outright criminalising homosexuality for most of its existence?

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I love Putin. Rightists hate him because he banned Nazism and antisemitism in Russia.

Gorilla-tier question tbh

nigga, what?

It only criminalized male homosex :3

Stalin re criminalised. Khrushchev never did anything about it so it stayed until the union fell.

Surely you mean the neoliberal centrist idpollers, on a payroll from our corporate overlords?

Someone posted this in another thread which you should read: stalinsociety.org/2015/04/08/homosexuality-in-the-ussr/

Also if Putin is so sad about the USSR collapsing why doesn't he just bring it back?


Yuri is for virgin weebs and shit tier.

Homosexually is bourgeois ideology in one of its many forms. Stalin had to secure the Soviet state from external forces of the the capitalist international, so the ban was completely justified.
Put in on the other hand while a great leader of this people is no communist nor comrade. His ban on homosexual actions and propaganda is purely out of the self interest of maintaining capitalist class control within his nation.

Because USSR wasn't just russia, it was a whole bunch of countries, who are curently under control of EU and west.

What a bunch of shit.

I mean why doesn't he socialism if he thinks it's so great.

Never heard of it

Holy shit isn't this fucking obvious? Hes a fucking conservative that supports capitalism. Op is retarded.

Because he's just a porky defending Russian porkies' interests.

The real question is: why do some Juche-loving LGBT leftists don't ever mention homophobia in the DPRK?

Asians can't into gays.

But everyone who is against AmeriKKKa must be a communist.

1. they were sentenced to treatment rather than jail
2. there were no active campaigns and persecution against them - unlike in the USA or western Germany
3. anachronistic moralism

If there treatment was anything like western countries I think I'd rather go to gulag than get my balls melted off.

even jason already adressed this.
simple answer: "no shit, a third world nation under siege by imperialism with a large peasant population has backwards ideas"
long answer:
whom are you adressing with critizism of their reactionary attitude towards LGBT?
the leadership of the DPRK and the Korean people?
to comrades next to you that you try to organize with in your country about what stance exactly? "bomb korea and kill their population because they're mistreating gays"?
or just "look at the DPRK, they don't like gays so it cannot be socialism"? so forcing down identity politics as the defining character of socialism? or do you want your comrades to make up their mind about their attitude about the LGBTs in general and drop reactionary ones? then why make it about the DPRK?
or the audience of warmongerers welcoming your agitation against the nation yours is occupying half its territory, having massacred civilians and flattened their capital, established a fascist military junta on and kept killing peaceful protests for even just bourgeois democracy?

5 years of hard labor in jail is not a mere "treatment".


It's not just the peasant population that is homophobic.
Yes. Because, as I've said, LGBT leftists who love the DPRK are bizarre tbh, seeing the homophobia there. I'm not saying they shouldn't support them, just… be more critical of it.
What. I'm not American, thankfully.

It was fucked up obviously. Soviet Union should have been as socially and technologically forward as possible, since they were trying to discredit the west for being chauvinist pigdogs.

Homosex is not bourg. Look up the european cults of Dionysus before christianization them fags were tearing it up. Missed opportunity for sure. Soviet union remained a Russia dominated conservative bureaucracy which limited its potential.

how many times

Not an argument

Putin actively pushed a regression where there was an absence of progression in the USSR
(Well, except the bit where Lenin got rid of that reactionary shit and Stalin brought it back, which doesn't count because the west was generally still behind on gay rights at this point anyway making it a regression to the mean rather than a regression away from common decency.)

I don't. I think it SHOULD be criminalized

this I agree with

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Do you know what words mean? Like bourgeois, do you know what that means? I doubt it, since you can't even spell Homosexual

Homosexuality is literally fascist and a bourgeoisie illness

putin is a fucking neo-tsarist
pretty much the only good thing that he does is supporting syria other than that he's a reactionary shit

is nazbol speaking truth

Also
Real biting commentary there.
My post is clearly a shitpost but I mean holy shit man. There are many people on here that don't have english as a first language and that kind of bullshit is really idiotic.

As opposed to devaluing the word bourgeois far away from what it actually means.

Define bourgeois for me then

Correlation is not causation, fag.

The class of people in bourgeois society who own the means of production as their Private Property, i.e., as capital.

Because some issues are more important to some people then there sexual freedoms.

Okay we both agree what bourgeois means, then what you are really trying to argue is that homosexuality isn't a feature of " people in bourgeois society who own the means of production as their Private Property, i.e., as capital", correct?

Yes. There are homosexuals with affluence, but not all homosexuals have affluence.