What caused economic stagnation in the USSR?

What caused economic stagnation in the USSR?

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The Soviet Union was always economically growing.

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The biggest problem in Soviet Union was old people in government. Big problem was old generals who wanted ww2 part 2 and demanded high military spending on irelevant stuff like tanks. Soviets should have focused on Science first and use science to improve conditions for civilian population-better food, better cars and other civilian stuff and use this experience on military. Make robotisation more switfly (in Baltic's there was robotisation in farms and even buffets)

Sadly Soviets mostly focused on military

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USSR economy never stagnated. Not achieving the goal of the plan that was laid out =/= economic stagnation


Military was necessary though.
Ironically the old man Andropov was actually great and the younger ones like Gorbachev fucked it all up.

Does this compare the GDP of the USSR to that of Russia or to that of the entire former union combined?

The same thing that caused economic stagnation in the West. The reason the West got out of it and the USSR didn't was because the latter didn't have financial capitalism to cannibalize their economy to create GDP "growth."

Why? If it would come to war nukes would be used and world would be kill.

Also why spend so much on military? Why have 15 thousand tanks?5 thousand would be enough. There was no need for 6 aircraft carries. No need for billions of bulets,.

Should have just liberlised gun control and armed the entire population,like Enver Hoxha did. That way Soviets would have 300 million soldiers.

Lenin once said that country doesn't need an army. It needs armed population.

For a state to succeed it needs to expand, the USSR ran out of room to expand and didn't have the capitalist wing to do the same.

Really, all hierarchy needs to expand, but when you run out of space you need other expanders in your system, that's why neo-liberal globalism is so prominent right now.

Please explain. Japan was one of the most hierarchical feudal states for centuries and cut itself off from the entire rest of the world until the Meji Restoration where they became capitalist. Capitalism needs to expand, states don't necessarily do.

What is a good book on why the USSR fell?

Just because Japan didn't interact with the rest of the world doesn't mean it didn't expand. It invaded Korea almost immediately after the Sengoku Jidai in which all the clans fought between themselves to gain control of the whole of Japan.

Just reading wikipedia about it, it sounds like Gorbachev was just constantly ceding power, and I can't really discern why? Even at the very end, where it talks about the August coup, it seems to make it out as though it was a total failure. Gorbachev just stood on a tank and gave a speech, and public opinion was apparently against the coup. But then right after this section, the next one titled "the fall" just starts off with Gorbachev dissolving the communist party. Why would he do that?

I guess that's a polite way of saying "was essentially ostracized for being cunts to all their neighbors until Americans brought them guns powerful enough to make real countries finally pay attention to them."

None of this is relevant to his remark as these events predates the sakoku period of isolation, which lasted for over 200 years.

FSU=Former Soviet Union

They pretend we live in workers paradise, we pretend to work in workers paradise.

You're right, they should've invested more in civil engineering. The USSR did have god-tier public transport though.


And Andropov was only decent in so far as he wanted to give more power to the soviets. I don't know when anti-revisionist tankies will realize "revisionism" is inevitable when you have too much party power and too little soviet power.

wikipedia isn't a book dumbass

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They didnt go full steam ahead developing the productive forces the way they should have because of ideological and cultural rigidity.

Instead of pouring so much money into nuclear weapons (seriously someone defend this please) they should have invested more in computers in order to improve central planning. This could have led to accelerating returns.

Instead SU was hampered by its rigid beauracracy. This goes all the way back to the early 20s, banning of factions, Stalin's rise, etc. I don't have all the answers but I'm sure Kaminev and Zinoviev would rethink teaming up with Stalin to take down Trotsky if they had the chance. Not that I think Trotsky's a saint- I think it came down to a small margin for error in tense circumstances and people who made bad choices or didn't know quite the right thing to do.

Muh Bordiga but what if all world communists had run that shit?

Also if the kulaks hadnt been such assholes kek

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If they had that, that means some war games showed they need that many to defend themselves. No military industrial complex there to push products for profit.

There was no stagnation. Capitalism started printing fiat money with debt en masse, so it "worked better", just like saying that using a credit card makes you richer. And now that debt death spiral will be its demise.

The OP asked why growth stagnated, not why it stopped.

The KGP was filled with closet liberals and was feeding Gorbachov false information constantly, like how the situation in the border republics was exaggerated and how the Warsaw Pact countries wanted to remain communist.

Any sources on that?

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