Poll: What is the solution to the growing inequality of sexual inexperience?

surveymonkey.com/r/86RV8PG

Or intimacy inequality if you like to call it that. Survey above, just for leftypol for now.

Sources detailing rampant, ridiculous inequality when sexuality gets put on a large scale digital free market in the USA
archive.is/mCmMT
archive.is/wDxuW

Other urls found in this thread:

thefederalist.com/2017/03/15/millennials-much-less-sex-grandparents/
reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/42lor3/20_of_men_sleep_with_80_women_lie_statistics/
fortune.com/2017/08/06/generation-z-smartphone-depression/
theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/11/all-the-single-ladies/308654/?single_page=true
twitter.com/SFWRedditImages

You can't make me read that

What the graph?

I think you meant "sexual experience"

Mandatory interracial breeding grounds.

Because nobody has the resources to be in a relationship or waste it on a clingy asshole

You won't like it but that's the truth.

lol OP you just got redpilled

Yea, I didn't add a "muh bootstraps" option

Another problem is your entire history is out on the internet through social media. And doubtless your worst aspects show in a way they wouldn't in the past. Or perhaps lack of a presence can be equally suspicious, or maybe put you in a neutral position.

The point is the internet has made you and everyone else a monster and you can't fix it now

Combined with people having less resources for a relationship

Yeah what's really the point

If birth control liberated women from the risk of pregnancy therefore impeding dysgenic breeding practices, why did women end up becoming MORE selective instead of LESS selective?

I mean, what's the big deal? I understand women in the past would not want to have sex with me because of my inferior facial features and middling height because they wouldn't want to run the risk of gestating my inferior beta male genes, but they have no excuse now with the prevalence of birth control. But they still only want Chad.

Woman's liberation is beta male enslavement.

Base-superstructure. Any other answer (for example, blaming sexual freedom instead of capitalism) is undialectical.

It isn't women's liberation, it's people can see your antics on the internet and behavior now is intertwined with the internet. The internet is the new flesh. It's a new method of selection. People can more reliably find out who is freak and who is not.

And again, resources not being in anyone's hand to keep up a relationship.

Marxist-Leninist-Posadism with Houellebecqian characteristics when?

samefag

Damn

Pathetic OP

But I don't have any social media women select against me strictly on the basis of my inferior looks and height.

Again, if they do not run the risk of pregnancy copulating with me why do they only want Chad?

Not having social media is it's own statement

Maybe it's your own responsibility or lack there of in a tougher time and not other people…..

Stupid virgin gorilla poster

Because the behaviour, mannerisms, dress code etc. that we associate with "chads" is actually typical petit-bourg, that's why they're more popular. Also, capitalism still prevents most people from being able to fuck, date and marry someone without any concerns about their financial situation. "sexual freedom" under capitalism is a sham, that does not mean the idea itself is wrong. Ideally, sexual freedom under communism would mean you could get laid a lot easier.

ABOLISH THE SEXUAL FREE MARKET. COMMUCHADS NOT WELCOME. LIBERTY, EQUALITY AND PUSSY FOR ALL MEN.

People who refuse to deal with the incel question are in fact sexual fascists. They absolutely believe in sexual social darwinism and muh bootstraps since "its female empowerment". How can you honestly ask to abolish wage slavery while keeping males sexually enslaved to females and chads? Protip, you cant.

COMMUNISM IS SOCIAL LIBERATION AND THEREFORE CANNOT ALLOW GROSS INEQUALITY TO STAND IN EITHER THE BEDROOM OR THE FACTORY.

What did you answer on the survey?

GET
A
JOB
COMMIE

What if chads don't exist

you are cucked by capitalism my dude

I already said it is my fault for being an inferior male specimen but you are not addressing the crux of the matter. Society wide free love and constant sex was promised as consequence of liberating women from the risk of pregnancy but all that happened is that 80% of the women have sex with 20% of the men. The chad sexual bourgeoisie dominates when a more egalitarian sexual hierarchy was envisioned.

Why don't you. Maybe you can get a relationship with financial security

You aren't having sex because you talk like someone who's been institutionalized and can't stop.

Thank your lucky stars you're not on any social media lmao

[citation needed], the post

Don't ask for my money if you are not willing to give the puss, blueboi.

we can have this under communism

I'm pretty sure it's the internet influencing our behavior. People were fucking plenty in the 60's

Actually a lot of us have jobs. Can I ask why you samefagged like ten times

IM YELLING

Why financial security become a factor at all of women do not run the risk of pregnancy? Women have sex with poor chads all the time while beta males with stable incomes are treated like subhumans.

You are being silly.

Objectively wrong.

OP Status: Ravaged.

People are actually having less sex be it man or woman.

You just last interacted with over a thousand people in high school and have some pathos or paraphilia about being inferior and the internet didn't help you or do you any favors

I'm a different person you gaslighting whore. Why do you and the other blue pilled faggots here never address Gorilla posters points properly? Pretty pathetic that so called communist intellectuals can never muster anything stronger than a "URAVIRGINLOL".


BECAUSE YOU ARE ALL FAGS

Do you want us to cry you aren't having sex

What do you want from us. To say that yes it's everyone's fault but your fault and we should just live in the Hand Maiden's Tale

Consider other alternatives of why you are the way you are.

Objectively true. Homeless chads even have sex. Search the article for the homeless chad in nyc taking home a different women every night while panhandling all day.

Meanwhile below average men with stable incomes are derided for simply being in the presence of women. Our very existence is an offense to them we are not even allowed to make eye contact with them.

Ebin.

No it's not true, people are having less and less sex. Learn base and superstructure you dumb monkey poster

IM YELLING

What else other than to abolish
THE SEXUAL FREE MARKET
I am asking you people to account for why you believe that we should kill people for economic equality but sexual hierarchy is only the individual's fault.

WHY IS THERE SUCH A DISCREPANCY IN THOUGHT? ARE YOU FREE THINKERS OR MERELY TOOLS OF WOMEN?

Do it properly lad.

LIKE SO

People are having less sex because 80% of the males are celibate or getting laid twice a year if they are lucky, learn basic statistics.

Show's over folks. You can all go home now.

This isn't the 60's.

People are more conservative about their bodies and their responsibility to them for a variety of reasons, many learned from the internet. Both for yourself and women. As well as financial resources, people having to keep up for two people etc

What you're describing is inane

Read all the posts in this thread and then respond again dumb monkey

IM YELLING

I wish there was a way to properly discuss this without people on both sides losing thier shit. This subject is so emotionally that I feel it's impossible to the talk about

Mostly because of things like Sexually Transmitted Diseases etc

What does that mean?

Isn't it the opposite?
The corporate internet (and elsewhere) promotes a 60s free-love, but for most people (except like skinny women), that's just a nominal choice, feeding frustration.

What should I read? It's just women hysterically insulting me for being an inferior specimen. You are not addressing the brutal realities of the sexual free market.

People have offered alternative answers but they can't take it because they're emotional

you just aren't reading tho

Why is this idiot so intent on putting his trouble with girls in the framework of Marxism?

what are the sides? The only two sides are 1. don't want to talk about it and 2. want to talk about it

anyone with a brain sees Japan and knows this problem can get out of hand, the only "side" that wants things the way things are are like 50,000 "feminists"

Again, wrong. People are conservative because of the reality of STDs, the internet influencing behavior, the internet influencing identity which influences the former. The cost involved for being responsible for two people etc

The list goes on

If your answer to the problem is "muh chads" and "muh girls" my god in heaven I'm sorry but you're stupid

TOP MINDS OF LEFTYPOL

Doesn't explain anything in my question faggot. Low effort/10. Has being Stacy's slave drained you of all your intellect, betaboi?

No you just don't want to hear that you're wrong and other answers to this exist

20% of the US populution is celibate at any time, many are involuntary, not 80%, that's Japan and a few other countries..

Still a problem tho

lol go ahead and give an answer other than "bootstraps"

It obviously is. People are having less sex.

I'm explaining why and you're just saying "YOURE WRONG IM IMPOTENT AGAINST WOMEN THEY HATE ME BECAUSE OF BLAH BLAH BLAH IM ANGRY"

You aren't being reasonable or sane


I'm answering every question you're asking

Why are you faggots always so obsessed with Japan? I get that you have yellow fever but their low birthrate is entirely due to material conditions.

I have

everything is due to material conditions

This is true

Really. 80% of women only wish to fuck the top 20% because they are afraid of STDs?

You are a joke. I am completely std free AND financially secure by your warped worldview I should be hitting it out of the park with women on the basis of that alone.

You are divorced from the realities of the world. Women would rather share a std ridden Chad eating out of garbage cans than treat an inferior beta male like me with a scintilla of human dignity.

First of all it isn't 80%

And second I didn't truly say only STDs.

The only joke is you for politicizing your lack of sexuality. You're the laughing stock of everyone. And it isn't because they're being mean for no reason. Just grow up

Do a quick google search about "sex under communism" or "sex under socialism". Even with the many problems of 20th century communism you can see how sex life was a lot better for many people, and got worse afterwards.
I'm gonna start purging if you kids don't behave.

In other words, read the thread again. And again. And again. Until you consider an alternative.

mgtow and redpillers haven't joined yet and I apologize for the samefagging to spark discussion

Wrong. This generation is more "conservative" because more are incels you dimwit. You are confusing cause and effect because you couldnt cope with reality otherwise.

Our attitudes are more degenerate. I can't believe I even have to explain this to you, you feminized beta cuck. More degenerate porn, media stars and attitudes towards sex. Our media is completely open about human sexuality and trans people are actually seen as humans by some people instead of degenerates by everyone. This is objectively less conservative, and only a feminist who wants everyone's social attitudes to be under her domination thinks otherwise.

So you're saying there's more incels because there's more incels

Your logic is circular and doesn't even begin to go foot deep in asking "why" beyond the usual people are mean I'm innocent if you disagree with my reasons you're saying i need to pull up your boot straps yada yards etc

You aren't willing to confront other solutions because that might involve admitting you're wrong. And you already created an identity for yourself over you having no sex. You're so enrapt in it you can't even discuss the realities of modern life

Why so eager to ban, mod? I am nothing more than an average channer and Gorillia poster has been nothing but kind. Much more kind than the nazis and libertarians you allow on this board. Is the Incel question the true heresy of Holla Forums?

Good to know you're actually looking to discuss your frustrations under late capitalism. I was expecting you to slip up sooner or later and show your true colors but I guess I was mistaken. I'll clean out any mgtow and redpill fags if they come in.
And do that google search I mentioned, you'd be amazed at how even capitalist press is willing to admit sex was better under socialism (ofcourse none of those articles go without mentioning the usual propaganda)

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You're being purposefully obnoxious about your life for no reason on an anonymous message board and it pisses people off

Like clockwork. Sexuality is as free as it ever was since the Romans, but we incels do not get to enjoy it due to feminism. Everything else is a ridiculous diversion, the sexual equivalent of a middle manager thinking he will be a CEO someday. You are a useful tool of Chad and the females son. Stay blue pilled, friendo.

This post is insipid and meaningless. Shut down your computer you are incapable of an ounce of critical thought and are simply defending the status quo because you refuse to acknowledge the root of female hypergamy.

Absolutely pathetic.

It's more like clockwork you just said exactly what I said you would say.


I've been attempting to communicate with you about why people have less sex but you're obviously too upset about it to care.

You have to see everything in Marxist theory, most of which you haven't even read.

I disagree

Nobody has to read this thread nigger. Take your bootstraps logic and fuck off if you hate it.


Stop coping and taste the truth. Japan is our future if we do not act quickly. Like intersectionality and all that shit. Sexual oppression of males is tied to class oppression by the bourgeoisie. The Chads envision a society in which we are all asexual robots who accumulate surplus value and nothing more. You were born with a penis and you still have it. Fucking is your birthright. Are you going to defend the people who want to take that away from you?

Then why talk in this thread if you're not going to read


Coping is what you should start doing.

The Chad Illuminati…..damn….why didn't I see….

You have failed to provide a single ounce of evidence or account for the OBVIOUS discrepancy between our libertine attitudes towards sex and the reality of our situation. How are we more conservative if we allow trash like Miley Cyrus on television? Simple, we aren't. We have degenerated/liberated ourselves. These are facts. Don't let your female master tell you otherwise.

OPEN YOUR EYES AND SEE THE TRUTH, THE OBVIOUS TRUTH THAT MUST BE SPOONFED TO YOU LIKE YOU ARE IN SPECIAL ED

The only evidence I've seen you post is evidence you should be committed

thefederalist.com/2017/03/15/millennials-much-less-sex-grandparents/

Stop talking like the Heretic Leader in the Halo 2 campaign over not fucking enough

Again, this has been addressed, there is less sex overall because 80% of the women only want the top 20% of the men. It really is like I'm talking to drug addled idiots incapable of completing more than two steps of logic.

No it hasn't. You're not addressing anything you're just repeating yourself and demanding we trust your interpretation.

Really because we're not the ones talking about the Chaduminati

SPEND LESS TIME ON THE INTERNET

You have been thoroughly refuted yet you continue to defend the status quo. You are suffering from Stockholm syndrome. At one point you tried to claim STDs are the reason people are fucking less. How stupid are you?

More like both men and women have been alienated by capitalism

Not really. You just repeated yourself, cited nothing, then said "I won now care about me and my life problems" while people are trying to explain to you, why it is the way it is.

Would it shock you if I told you, you were defending the status quo?

Genuine question, can you define Chad for me? Like, what is it that makes or break a Chad?
'Cause according to the answers I usually get it comes down to either masculine facial structure, height, hair, dick size etc. and conveniently it's always the one thing the guys asked lack and wish they had.


Is that the "handsome" gorilla women in Japan went crazy over?

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The top 20% of the male population that is having sex with 80% of the women constantly. The beneficiaries of the haremization of our society.

Yes. It is he.

That doesn't exist. Attraction is almost totally subjective based on life experiences, and that makes our current life make all the more sense in context. Please cite a source, an actual credible source.

Why aren't people having sex?

1. From the 80s onwards, everyone's been over-stressed, overworked, insecurely employed, and emotionally unstable.

2. The media encourages unrealistic stereotypes of both (main) genders. Men want women who look like filmstars, porn stars and models. This is at most 5% of women. And the images are airbrushed. Women not only want men who look like filmstars, porn stars and models, but also want them to be emotionally perfect.

3. Sexual and emotional abuse are pretty common. Women avoid having sex in case they pull a stalker, batterer or rapist. Men avoid having sex in case they pull Overly Attached Girlfriend or Bunny Boiler.

4. There's still a whole load of fucked-up norms from earlier stages of capitalism - ranging from women not wanting to be seen as sluts, to Christian views on abstinence.

Solutions:

First, encourage sexual activity as a virtue. Women who have sex with lots of men aren't sluts, they're heroes.

Second, promote free porn depicting sensual sex between people of a wide range of body types and appearances. Encourage young people to watch this at an age when they're still sexually awakening.

Third, reduce the general level of stress in society. There's various ways to do this. Getting rid of precarity, austerity and securitisation are a good start. A basic income or a right to a job would be even better. Encourage stable, permanent jobs and a slow pace of work.

We need a lot more research into the causes of sexual and emotional abuse. It may help to separate casual sex from emotional involvement. To do this, it might be necessary to find other socially valued forms of emotional involvement - platonic families, communes, work teams and so on. Look at how the Nayar do it.

Create/facilitate sex clubs where people can meet randomly for no-strings-attached encounters with total strangers who they'll never meet again.

As in what, you keep spouting this goddamn 20% figure but can't seem to define it any further. Who are they? What makes them the "top"? Exemples?

I'm not going to spoon-feed you, I might as well cite a source for the molecular composition of water. Just go outside or try to use tinder. Observe inferior beta males being treated as if they are invisible at a local Starbucks or bar.

You are hell bent on denying on reality, there is no use interacting with you.

This is by far the biggest reason.

pic

Also literally from red pill

reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/42lor3/20_of_men_sleep_with_80_women_lie_statistics/

There seems to be a lot of people blaming the smartphone

fortune.com/2017/08/06/generation-z-smartphone-depression/

Are you really going to play a game here where male desirability isn't tiered and hierarchial? Why part of "top 20% of male population" do you not understand exactly? It's self explanatory.

I think I'm done here I might as well have a conversation with my wall.

Things like this would get taken over by Chad in an instant and you know it.

Really, but we're entirely willing to spoon feed you!

If people were on the same page about who they did or did not like the world would be a very different place

"Top 20%" based on what, for starters, what are the criteria?

Infact here is the closest article to this strange assertion:

theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/11/all-the-single-ladies/308654/?single_page=true

"roughly 20 percent of the causes create 80 percent of the effects—to the college dating market, and concluded that only 20 percent of the men (those considered to have the highest status) are having 80 percent of the sex, with only 20 percent of the women (those with the greatest sexual willingness); "

Maybe you can fuck your wall

If you are still here:

Girls just want a guy who will bring them wine and chocolates and not use their nice hand towels as toilet paper cause thats "all there was"

I'm part of that 3% of males in the 30-34 range.

I have had sex with other guys though. Not this year however.

Why does there need to be an r9k thread at all times?

'cuz r9k is rightist and there's no leftist r9k, but plenty of lefty foreveralones/incels that can analyze the problem from a socio-cultural socio-political perspective. Top-down perspective.

And this is the only chan large enough to foster any leftist chan discussion on a meaningful scale

Because /r9k/ is basically Holla Forums 2.0

As unimportant as it is in the grand scheme of things, yes, discrimination about looks always was and will be both real and inevitable.

I mean God damn.

Regardless, this is yet another issue that will be completely be rendered obsolete by technology, in this case full embryonic genetic engineering.


First, there's the fact that birth control still sucks shit. Most women have nasty side effects, many have them so bad they can't use it at all. Birth control will only have a proper effect on sexual behavior when it's effortless and unnoticeable.

Second, there's the issue of STDs, and those aren't going away for a while.

Wait, where does it say that?

>tfw technology is actually increasing the labor man needs to perform because of it also allows an ever-increasing share of it to not benefit him
The industrial revolution was a mistake.

And this is why I hired the services of a hooker at age 26, cuz by your mid-20s you are a statistical freak for not being ever having intimacy.