What the hell is economic nationalism?

What the hell is economic nationalism?

American economics has always been about helping the American bourgeoisie and German economics has always been about helping the German bourgeoisie.

I'm confused.

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It's a dog whistle for "putting native workers first, fuck the brownies."

There's a lot of different ways to look at protectionism.

Domestic classcuck proletariat see protectionism as a way to return to the good old days when manual labor made them a bunch of money because they didn't see competition from elsewhere, not realizing that the idea that other people getting better at making things making their lives worse is ridiculous.

The bourgeoisie is not a unified block - there's actually something of a distinction between the financial and the "direct" bourgeois. The former tends to be more liberal since they really appreciate free trade while the latter is nationalist because it wants captive customers. The latter, of course, want economic nationalism.

Finally, there's the socialist argument for protectionism. The idea is that third-world countries don't actually have competitive advantage over first-world countries since they have inferior infrastructure and environmental standards, they just treat their workers worse, and developed countries that implement a socialist government should tax them for cheating by giving their workers less than they deserve.

yeah it's just this

Economic nationalism is either an inter-ethnic designation or just a rhetorical change. National economic competition is nationalistic by definition, regardless of Holla Forums ramblings about globalists

Not sure but it's related to Nouvelle Droit, Left Fascism, Naz-Syn and Nazbol.

Not sending shit back and forth using cargo ships would be an enormous benefit to the environment, so there's that.

globalism is nationalism

It's regular capitalism, plus imperialism. Except you pretend that you're doing it on behalf of the working class.

It is though.
Globalism = Every nation is a market
Nationalism = Every nation is a market except mine

It's the true and tested method of european far right seducing former left wing proles. When pretend social democrats gave away the "better world" mask for neolib bux, far righters took it from them and began "gibs to natives" program. Obviously they never gonna apply it as they are made of bourgie (when it isn't actual aristocrats) but they gotten some sort of clout after the EU Austerity craze and general happy arabs explosions.

It's just social democracy, just less welfarist and progressivist than whatever Bernie's pitch was. The point is, however serious either gentleman may be, and how unsympathetic you may feel to this considering US's traditional role as the enforcer of global capital and base of NYSE, IMF and World Bank and so on, it would entail: a return to sovereignty in economic management and a rejection of the effective complete devolution of all power to unaccountable neoliberal organs and restructuring regimes ("trade deals", loan conditionality), especially with regard to free flows of capital and labor, transnational corporate structures that evade tax while profiting off the locale, and so on. The point against globalism is it essentially nullifies any pretense of democracy, however thin and farcical as it may have been before, and the corruption from untouchable global interests with infinite money, holding your country's whole economy hostage at the same time via a stroke of a pen, while being able to force favorable regulation anywhere else, is simply impossible to combat. From a leftist perspective it precludes any form of socialism, creating a global race to the bottom for all regulations including labor and environmental, destroying all community, among other deleterious effects. Globalism clearly does not even stop imperialism, there's still China for example, and merely dissolving all the other nation states with nothing to replace them except perhaps ad hoc local paramilitaries (vs globalist PMC total security state), makes everyone on earth unable to protect themselves under whatever meager shield the nation provided before. It's nothing less than the total and complete victory for Capital over the entire planet.

Marxists here however all but openly defend this because >muh all nationalism is just porky tricks to fuck with the proletariat, >stop being mean to refugees! or whatever. It's a breathtaking testament to their true colors.

The Russian Empire for 300 years

how does pic rel work? you cut taxes and invest the money to build gulags?

Don't you find it odd the Soviet empire despite its peak reach never thought to icepick the big wigs or infrastructure of the banking system which would have not only thrown capitalism into instant turmoil but was ultimately was the lead factor in its own sudden dissolution?

Domestic workers first, basically.

capitalism in one country

Economic Nationalism is when you try to reduce trade with foreign countries as much as possible as focus on increasing domestic production. It could be done in either a capitalist or socialist country. North Korea is doing it.

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Not really, economic nations came out of Fredrik List that complained that the British porkies had a unfair advantage so the German state should help German porkies. List argued that the USA became a strong industrial nation not by accepting the London consensus but instead using the power of its state to develop its own bourgeois economy.

Australia was protectionist for about 80ish years.
It was a divisive issue at federation in 1901, some still followed classical liberalism, while more radical new economic theorists encouraged protectionism.
It first became a consensus on protectionism for one very simple reason - racism.
Now before shrill dickgeads start calling me an SJW, understand that this was implemented at the same time as the white Australia policy.
The basic idea was that Australia would be a country for the British race, even other western Europeans were not considered acceptable.
This was heightened by the feeling of isolation, especially after getting bombed the Japanese in ww2 and the spread of communism in South East Asia.
Additionally, Australia is a very curious country from a socialists perspective. In the 1800s it was called the "working man's paradise" and there was a very strong labourist movement, inspired by charterism.
Likewise, the colony of Queensland had the world's first Labor government in the 1890s, followed by the Australian government after federation. (Which Lenin commented was just bourgeois anyway).
But by the 70s, like much of the rest of the western world, our economy was shitting itself and neo-classic economics was coming into vogue. Likewise, this coincided with the social revolution of the 60s becoming more accepted.
Capitalists here realised Asia was actually a huge source of revenue - they are developing and lack natural resources whilst we have a shitload.
So throughout the 80s non European migrants came and our economy was opened to the world, the end of 'fortress Australia."
Politicians promised that the standard of living would rise - and shit we've had something like 25 years of non stop economic growth (i.e muh gdp)
But the gap between rich and poor has increased, the cost of living has sky rocketed (shitty delapatated houses in capital cities cost millions) and wages have stagnated.
So now you see a lot of angry people who equate the problem with free trade and immigrants. They want a return to closed borders, both in terms of economics and immigration.
Just my anecdotal example.

But muh socialism in one country.

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I took the time to make a little effortpost in another thread, so of course it died without any further replies.

it's a spook

The time for socialist protectionism is long past. The material conditions are right there