Why is Anarchism so obscure? Most people seem to have no clue what it's about...

Why is Anarchism so obscure? Most people seem to have no clue what it's about, and associate the word with Somalia before any leftist thought. At least people know that Communism is an ideology which seeks equality and opposes capitalism, skewed though their image of it may be.

Well one bright side of anti-fa is that its getting American media to 1. label them as anarchists and 2. associating anarchism with leftism.

A major issue with anarchism in America is its association with neoconfederates or right-wing libertarians.

Most people associate anarchism with punk smashies and all the other bad stuff, and then there's punk smashies who have heard of the stereotype but decide it's a good thing. It wouldn't surprise me if most anarchists started calling themselves that way because they believed in the "fuck you mom I do what I want" meme. And very few of them read, goddammit.
You'll also find a lot of self-proclaimed ancoms who are diehard anti-communists because they don't know their own ideology.

you think that's bad OP? I met a former-commie socdem who associated anarchism with ancapism

Idk maybe it's a lack of image, and a long time of people misconstruing it. People have this misconception that anarchism means chaos, when in reality we believe in organization
It's pretty evident that people don't understand communism either though because you hear people say anarcho communism is an oxymoron, which is crazy if you know that communism is a stateless society

Anarchism never got into academia to the degree to which Marxism did. This is a good thing, as bad as lifstylism is an academy infested anarchism would be the anarcho-liberal on steroids.

It really depends on the region. Going by my family, in certain French colonies, anarchism is mostly associated with that one Illegalist massacre/failed heist in France which they had to dynamite the building to stop. Outside of that, all I can tell you is that anarchy being used in place of chaos and the Punk scene have contributed to people believing it means no rules and laws and no government and everyone loots all the things.

I'm a left wing fascist. Anarchism is for native children, like libertarianism.(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

Illiteracy and lack of examples.

I honestly think it's mostly because it's such a dangerous idea to capital. Porkies(and pretty much all power organs in society) has in their interest that workers don't know about the anarchist labor history.

Okay so let's take a look.

People don't read books,and don't have examples to look at, yet.

See previous, also Somalia is right wing anarchism

Left wing Anarchism is pretty much this+ more disdain for state.

This sounds good except the no rules part actually.
I always find it weird when anarchist denounce smashies and illegalists as "not true anarchism". They're as true to the core principles of anarchism as the most pragmatic syndicalist.

It's a very bad meme.

This is what I'm talking about. You hear all the negative things about anarchism but decide they're a good thing and contribute even more to anarchism's bad image. I know enough lifestylist vegan anarchists who don't read already.

communism is not an ideology, but this sort of idealism is precicely what you'd expect from an ancom

How is looting and no government bad things in your opinion?

I think you may be too dumb to have the "read a book" flag.

I think it's mostly in the anglosphere, here in France it's associated with the far-left.

We should remember these people what "Ⓐ" means.

You're joking right?

infantile disorder, etc

that's lenin's critique of left-communism you retard

Qu'est-ce que c'est le symbolisme de la "Ⓐ" ?

Explains the flag lmao

L'anarchie c'est l'ordre !

It mentions anarchists. Unfortunatly what was being criticised was not participatint in elections, and by that standard quite a few Marxist-Snowflakist parties would also be infantile. Of course the anarchists and infantiles were right about this, but it took the spectacular failure of the USSR and erosion of various parties for the Marxist-Snowflakists to realize that electoral politics are a waste of time.

No. Please explain why these things are bad.

They don't abolish capitalism.

What? Neither do trade unions or wildcat strikes but that don't make them bad.

That's a new one.

It's precisely this mentality that "anarchism means no governance lmao" that allows statecucks to lecture us on how "you need a state to have public transport and education etc."
You cannot organize transportation, industry, education, healtcare etc. with lifestylism, looting and affinity groups. You need organization on horizontal, democratic and decentralized principles. Unless you're an anprim or post-leftist, then by all means work towards a world of permanent chaos and looting, the way right-wingers strawman anarchism.

Bonnot did nothing wrong.

No it failed for other reasons, namely that it never abolished capitalism and at best had capitalism under proletarian dictatorship for four years. Electoral participation has still proven to be a dead end.
Not only did it fail to abolish capitalism but it ceased to exist over two decades ago. It's a failure.

They usually denounce them for using tactics that they perceive counter-productive, not for not being anarchists.

Left wing fascim needs to gain more ground on /leftypol /

There is no such thing as left-wing fascism moron

There's nothing more ideological than the claim not to be ideological. That shitty anarchist FAQ starts with the same claim. It's just self-flattery to think you can be free of such a thing. It's particularly LeftComs who do this, fellating themselves about how they're instead the "real movement which abolishes the present state of things" as if that was somehow mutually exclusive.

You're stupid as fuck.

He's right you megafaggot.

How new R U? Fascism isn't inherently left or right wing, and left wing fascim is superior to communism.(USER WAS NIGHT OF THE LONG KNIVE'D FOR THIS POST)

Fascism openly preaches class collaboration, which is the de facto maintenance of the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie. It isn't left wing in any sense of the term.

Oh, you're a faggot Assershit. Lame.

it is kind of hard to learn what real life anarchists think, even if one tries to. they don't exactly do official organisations or much publicity. and the social media anarchists…

I follow some individual anarkiddies from round here on social media and they're like, basically just very radical leftist liberals who occasionally mention that the state is bad. they don't really seem to talk about class much; when they do, it is more often about hating the middle class than anything else. if they talk about being working class, it is cute little stories about their childhood in a poor home. stupid identity stuff

they talk about intersectional feminism a lot, expect they really don't 'cause nowadays it is cooler to tell everyone that they have no duty to educate anyone. they troll a lot by calling themselves misandrists and making edgy jokes about powerful white men. they rant plenty about stupid shit like "calling arguments tired is ableist 'cause some people are depressed" and "calling people idiots is an ableist slur" and "you can't say "slave" or "lynching" if you're white" and blocking feminists who cal themselves whores 'cause "whore is a slur that only sex workers can claim"

they hate the police, except when the police breaks up far right rallies. they're also very open about wanting to use violent (state) apparatuses to suppress oppressive speech.

tl;dr I fucking hate really existing anarchists 'round here, even worse is that they probably suck away some support from other forms of "far left"

I wonder how many reddit anarchists are actually government shills

Come on user.

All of them.

People understand communism has leaders (even if they're democratically-elected) but the thing that sticks out is that there's leaders at all, they replace the bourgs with councilmen representing workers' interests. Meanwhile, anarchism redistributes power among all equally, and people associate no leaders = chaos, because that mindset holds the bourgs in power by tricking proles into thinking they need them. Anarchism has a long history of individual lone wolves partaking in their own direct action (bombings, bank robberies, propaganda of the deed, illegalism, etc.) as opposed to widespread communist parties which act all at once. This isn't to say anarchists never organize, but they do so less often than people of other leftist ideologies.

Read Novatore.

I really should read more Italian anarchists, they were smart as fuck.

because it is much like internationalism is to Utopian to work in society and does not take into account the factors of human nature

3/10, low effort bait

it is a good way to get the news (by following news outlets) and to get some views from people who are active in politics - not necessarily good views, but learning them is worthwhile anyway as they are active actors today.

I do not know what that is.

Who /libertarianaristocracy/ here?

Come on

me

People think anarchism = painting the A symbol on buildings and toppling trash cans.

Hmm I wonder why.

it's spooky that's why

they are talking out of their ass and cover up that it's consequently shit
that's why.

higher order appears to be chaos when viewed from a lower order
come up from the platform of vile lusty greedy trashspreader humanimal and see the greater cohesion that the individual is capable of
all the powers of social life are nested in the individual, what do you think tibetan yogini tantra is even about?

how do expect to effect any meaningful change, with lone wolves doing down direct action, even if you manage to something big like kill a world leader, they'll just find a new leader

let me correct that meme


a lot of great anarchists were killed, sent to prison for a long and brutally repressed. But i think that the most important point is that we couldn't adapt to the new world, to the informational era of mass media.

Having a good platform, may it be on youtube, online newspaper, blog, facebook, podcasts, and so on, with good aesthetics and that knows how to transmit ideas (like the shit vox and vice news videos) should be the focus of propaganda. See for example the 19th to early 20th century anarchists, they were masters at making newspapers, a lot of anarchists worked in typography and that isn't a coincidence. They worked there to have the means to communicate and disseminate anarchists ideas with a wide range of people.

Did Malatesta disliked Stirner/egoism?

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You seem upset

With Moore's Law being as it is, we are careening towards a post-human world without even stopping to grapple with the ramifications. I'm an anarchist because anarchism is the only framework in which transhumanism makes sense, and transhumanism symbiotically enables and empowers anarchism. An augmented man is a sovereign nation unto themselves. Their agency, their reasoning, their ability to correlate data, and, indeed, perhaps even their empathy and sensitivity to the needs of others could potentially be vastly greater than that of baseline humanity. That sort of boon must be distributed equally to all, as a natural right, because otherwise, you end up with a caste system. If you allow capitalism to have its way, by 2100, the world will be ruled by a small cadre of thousands of immortal, cybernetically-enhanced Dick Cheneys, and the proletariat will be lobotomized and drugged. The wealthy will be physically superior not just in their own minds, but in actual fact.

Fug does that mean that ancap is more popular than leftist anarchism? Lmao

It means people are stupid, which is why socialism is when the government does stuff and communism is when the government controls the economy.

There's too many things to count that don't abolish capitalism but that doesn't make them bad.

Only in US