say we all united and succeeded in world revolution, afterwords we would all just kill each other.
that would be two major wars
tell me I'm wrong here
World Revolution will kill everyone
since nobody but MLs have the capacity to create any meaningful means to effectively fight a war i have to disagree.
fringe socialists would just again end up whining and bitching in the gulags while mankind moves on.
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t. conflicts between stalinist countries
The USSR, China and Yugoslavia didn't kill each other despite being aggressive towards each other.
The capitalist and communist states stayed in peace. Yet somehow a full-blown socialist/communist world will kill each other.
kill each other with what? the weapons we don't have and most of us are not trained to operate? the average person has virtually no capacity for substantial violence, and even less will. most people will do anything to avoid violence
the age of 'major wars' is long over. in this century, do you seriously see something like england and france again going to war against germany? it's an absurd thought. the most you'll see is relatively small and localised conflicts in the developing world. that or nuclear events, which aren't really wars
i just don't see it happening
Nothing wrong with that.
usa bullies every other capitalist state, and blames wars it causes on everyone else
Tito defined himself as an ML
No, he didn't. Stop spouting your delusions out loud
But what if the opposite were true?
I see no problem there. Mankind's only two long-term scenarios are either extinction or socialism, and whichever one we get, we will have deserved it.
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When oil supplies begin to recede and the true cost of industrialization starts to become realized we may see a global push to conserve all that is left.
I doubt it though. That would mean first-worlders dropping to third-world living conditions - and first-worlders would rather kill everyone else on the planet than live like 'the poors'. A mass die-off from lack of food deliveries won't spark global class consciousness - it'll just spark mass-hoarding and the survival of those who control the remaining resources, as everyone fights to control those resources, until they are gone.
Humanity isn't going to learn to be sustainable - it's going to be forced back to the 1800s level of technology and it will likely stay there - the abundance of easily accessible energy and mineral resources long-since consumed.
I disagree that there will be two wars. There will be many fronts, and they will change over time, but the war you are talking about is already being fought. It's the resource war. Everything from oil to water, we need more and more each year, we have less and less each year.
MLs succeeded once, the rest of their success was due to this one success in Russia. Since then we have witnessed massive surveillance states rise to insulate themselves from their tactics.
No comrade.
The revolution will begin once we invent an unbiased government operated by supercomputers
The more we scientifically progress, the closer we are to communism. GET A SCIENCE DEGREE!
Bow to your Zuckerlord, anyone who unironically believes this.
You are not wrong. Second generation communist need to THINK and analyze why the russian revolution failed and regressed into dictatorship.
And this is bad because…?
he does have a point after we defeat the capitalists and fascists we will just have sectarian infighting.
They actually unironically would have killed each other (and were teetering on the verge of it) if they didn't begin to embrace capitalism so openly, which made killing each other bad for business. ML is so shit that capitalism was the thing that saved it.
Not really, China had limited border wars with the USSR but neither side was willing to throw any real power behind the conflict in fear of it becoming a full scale war.
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The best summary of capitalism I've ever read.
No the land will be divided into an ML zone, an anarchist zone, and a communalist zone. Because the revolution will be lead by intelligent people and not by sectarian shitposters from Holla Forums.
If that happens the remaining group of people will get post scarcity, not primitivism. Because astroid mining will happen sooner then you think. The only problem is that asteroids don’t have phosphorus (a mineral used to produced fertilizer) but that can be solved with permaculture.
nice pic
Leninism is different than ML.