Why are so many gamers reactionary? With the recent pewdiepie debacle it clearly isn't just isolated on the dumpster fires at Holla Forums. Did Gamergate really make these folks this easily duped? Just look at how the recent E3 was and how many of them had a stroke over black women in the games.
Most of the problems in the industry could easily be fixed if the developers were unionized tbh but these Dorito huffers thinks feminism is the biggest threat
I have analysed it a little, and found that PewDiePie himself and many other gamers are not particularly reactionary. In fact, they don't have almost any political viewpoints on their own at all besides the very basic normie stuff.
They have just become good at observing the market forces. When they point at certain direction, they bend toward that direction a little too, so they could what they are already doing a little better.
PewDiePie is not Hitler, he is more like Paul von Hindenburg, who let's Hitler do whatever because he wants but plays it safe and considers this as the path of less resistance, until it all comes back to bite him in the ass.
Owen Morris
We will not see good games or good gamers until after world revolution.
Ryan Stewart
It's simple. Hardcore gamers are usually alienated manchildren and Vidya is thier entire life. They see sjws and whatever as a threat to the only thing they enjoy in life.
That's also why many are anti-piracy as they see it as threatening the game industry
Wyatt Hughes
I saw this on nerv. and figure I can give a simple answer: gamers want to unwind and have some challenging but satisfying fun. The only problem is you left-wing faggots were systematically trying to convert video games into another soapbox to preach from where fun be damned, there's an agenda to push. Then, when it all burned down, the chorus of BAWWWWWing and accusations of Nazis just sealed it. You're welcome to get on the corner and scream your romanticism until you're blue in the face, but if you want to shove identity politics and marxim down our throats in one of the few things we have to escape from that shit, we're going to call you a nigger and laugh at the overreaction.
If you want proof, look at Hatred: it's a mediocre twin-stick shooter that had nothing going but an edgy premise of being a spree killer, and because game journos, Steam, Twitch, and leftists in general all freaked the fuck out, people bought it just to spite you.
Adrian Powell
...
Kevin Price
I don't think gamers are really any more reactionary on average than most other kinds of consumers. The outrage over this guy saying nigger on stream is honestly really overblown. Also sage.
Gavin Fisher
t. dumbass
Videogames were pushing an agenda long before le sjw boogeyman came onto the scene.
Connor King
Bullshit, you dumb faggot. Nobody cares if you pirate a big-name title. AAA games are so mediocre these days, it's actually painful to play a Ubisoft "sandbox" and they're never worth 60 dollerydoos.
Christopher Price
Why don't you see what Holla Forums has got to say
Andrew Rogers
Any pre-leftist agenda was still fun to play. You retards aren't just ignorant to fun, you actively destroy it with your presence.
Holla Forums isn't one person, but you're welcome to ask them if a Ubisoft or EA game is worth $60.
Joseph Turner
A huge part of the gaming market is adults these days, the "games are for children" thing hasn't been true for a while.
Carter Johnson
Before radlibs, I remember christians trying to demonize videogames, and being "le rational atheist" was a way to rebel against them.
Kayden Wright
If you seriously think GG was all about muh feminazis then gtfo
A chunk of the oldfags here learned through GG the realities of corporate journalism and game development
Evan Perry
Don't be ridiculous. Anyone truly concenred about corporate journalism was already at that point before gaymeraids happened. Gaymeraids was just a reactionary psyop to get people mad at feminists and then to use that fuel to push people to places like Holla Forums.
John Garcia
do you really think someone is reactionary because they said "nigger"? jesus christ you're sheltered
Jayden Ward
not sure if bait not sure if roo
Thomas King
Christ almighty gamers are the fucking WORST. Matt Christman is right.
Gavin Rodriguez
We're not SJWs mate, we don't cry for censorship. Many of us are actually strongly against those fucking faggots, while others don't really care about either feminists or vidya.
Caleb Foster
Because they're underdeveloped, uneducated manchildren.
Chase Jenkins
hi anfem
Tyler Scott
I mean, older people that play video games are trying to recapture that magic they felt when they played Goldeneye or Mario Kart 64 or whatever for the first time as a kid. They want to go back to "a better time." It's intrinsically reactionary.
Jace Wood
I don't think feeling nostalgia automatically makes someone reactionary
Aaron Green
Not all of them are, some are good beans thank god.
Benjamin Cook
Nostalgia is nihilistic and reactionary as fuck
Ethan Miller
Nah.
Anthony Russell
...
Luis Allen
Yes.
"Do not build on the good old days but on the bad new ones."
If you can't follow this Brechtian maxim then you are a reactionary.
Christian Rivera
I think you're setting up a bit of a false dichotomy here, my man. Me feeling a pang of nostalgia when I remember something from my childhood doesn't preclude me from looking toward the future or somehow mean I want to roll back society 20 years. You're being ridiculous.
Grayson Hernandez
So all the people who in polls say they wish the USSR never fell are reactionary?
Isaac Barnes
Absolutely.
Zachary Reyes
gaymers will be first against the wall when the revolution comes
screw the bourgeoisie, these shitheads need to die
Gavin Gomez
Sure, if this pang is brought upon by, say, a memory involving other human beings that mean or meant something to you. When it's a pang of nostalgia for a certain commodity-form, it's reactionary.
William Smith
I still don't agree. Being nostalgic about game or a movie you saw doesn't necessarily mean you desire a return to the status quo ante.
Levi Nelson
How is wanting to return to a more regulated market reactionary?
Jayden Garcia
ABSOLUTELY REACTIONARY
Nicholas Perez
GamerGate has to be the most successful psyop of all time
Ayden Rogers
So Stalin and Ayn Rand are le exact same thing to you then?
Oliver Brown
Guess what the average age of a gamer is?
Jackson Howard
...
Elijah Miller
This is why nobody takes you seriously. You people go around shouting "lolol triggered cuck" when you're the most easily set-off crybabies on the internet.
Christ, get some thicker skin and A) learn to deal with things you don't like and B) learn to fucking properly attribute shit to their actual ideological source. If I had a nickel for every time I saw a dumbass like you come on here and start spewing the whole "lol SJW libs are lefties" I'd be able to buy a fucking bond-villain-tier volcano base
Christian Gutierrez
You niggers cheer for antifa.
Isaac Turner
...
Jeremiah Cox
l u r k m o a r u r k m o a r
Aaron Edwards
What about the frozen fruit meme? Come on you people hate free speech.
Isaac Myers
...
Luke Nguyen
Look, do you need to like, rub one out before we continue, or something?
Levi Edwards
With the right wing populism going around, these losers were looking for games to get offended at in 2017.
Calling wolfenstine and farcry deeply triggering and problematic, they will realize they are just as bad as the SJW/Feminists when they wake up.
Michael Rogers
Although considering that you people have opportunistically latched onto to an absolutist definition of the term in order to use as a stick to beat down anybody who calls you out on your hypocritical bullshit, I'm tempted to do so just to see how you might react :^)
Christian Lopez
Someone believing the "gamers hate wymyn" narrative isn't exactly in the position to call others easily duped.
As for "reactionary" sentiments, it's the same as everywhere else at the moment. In a conflict between two main forces, people flock to the one that at least identifies the problems correctly. And that's not liberals.
Andrew Hughes
The left loves censorship. See universities, Google, facebook, antifa, or any communist shit hole ever.
William Ramirez
No shit.
Capitalist institutions aren't leftist.
Connor Garcia
...
Ryan Sanchez
Look, I know that using Paul Joseph Watson's watered-down, meaningless use of political terminology gets you rock hard, but eventually, you're going to have to start calling a spade a spade if you want to talk with the adults in the room
kys
Oliver Morris
They're aimed at completely different audiences, them being at odds with each other isn't really a problem when both of their goals (destruction of western civilization) align.
Kayden Hill
...
Justin Bailey
Now watch as the Holla Forumsyp tries to prove himself with poorly-sourced infographs and sources that use intensely flawed methodologies at best
Christian Murphy
Your argument originally was that it would be illogical to create both, I showed you why it's not.
Jason Bennett
Not the guy you initially responded to, but just asserting something doesn't "show" jack shit
Christ, you didn't even PRETEND to understand what constitutes an argument
Jaxson Perry
It's not an argument, he was saying the views are contradictaroy through the ideology of a Holla Forums poster, when it's clearly not.
Chase Scott
Every time you fuckers come to power you censor your opposition. The left loves censorship.
liberals are just watered down leftists.
Noah Gomez
Holy shit, you cannot into basic definitions
read a book, kiddo
Xavier Gonzalez
the right doesn't?
Camden Murphy
I know exactly what it is. it's an oxymoron.
You haven't been sent to the camps yet have you?
Jackson Howard
It hilarious how hatred of MGTOWs crosses all ideological, ethnic, class and gender lines. Nazis to communists hate them and they're philosophy is litterally on sentence long. Yet poor guys exercising any kind of agency makes everyone flip their shit. There must be s lot of truth to what they're saying. I guess there is a evolutionary trait that makes everyone hate weak men.
Christopher Lewis
...
Alexander Ross
t. youtube videos
Tyler Anderson
It's almost like you're talking about a problem of authoritarianism broadly speaking rather than of leftism specifically, and that you're twisting definitions around either at best unintentionally because you lack an understanding beyond what your online filter bubble feeds you, or at worst out of being an intellectually dishonest shill :^)
Evan Reed
I associate it with the common image of repressive control because every time it has been tried it ended in repressive control.
Give me an example of where socialism has been tried and it didn't end in repressive control. Inb4 real socialism has never been tried before.
Caleb Williams
I'll admit the right has its share of fuck ups, but they still have a better track record than the left at preserving free speech.
William Evans
I know half the board is going to bite my head off for this but,
read a history book
Xavier Perry
...
Gabriel Allen
I find ironic that people say that feminism is ruining gaming they don't realize that gamergate probably was the worst thing that could have happened on this community. Maybe one day people will realize that.
Kevin Miller
...
Jacob Garcia
because some folks build their identity around their hobby only a few people who play video games will call themselves gamers only retards will say they are readers if they read books along with the gaming culture comes things like wasting money on e-celebs, racism, miso.gyny etc i have never played a video game in my life so i'm probably wrong sage
Thomas Morris
they're both bad, user
Landon Robinson
M8, I know it's likely your balls haven't even dropped yet, but I'd advice you to go look up a group in the US called the Moral Majority for a bit of context on the history of pro censorship pressure groups there.
Easton Harris
Seriously, this.
These kids who think that the right doesn't have a significant history of being pro-censorship either aren't paying attention in history class and are making up for it with shitty youtube videos, or their history teachers are failing them outright.
When I was in high school in the 2000s, the right wing wouldn't shut the fuck up about criticism of the Iraq War and Bush being "un-American." They fucking did their damndest to torpedo that one country band
Jonathan Hill
Christfags, Thompson, and Holla Forums are all certainly obnoxious but they don't go around beating up people who disagree with them.
Jordan Rodriguez
I'm not antifa's no.1 fan, but my god, fucking get your news from an unbiased source or something
Jackson Reed
So much for the tolerant left
Jeremiah Taylor
See now you are making excuses
Owen Wood
Because street scuffles are clearly the result of mean old Antifa beating up up sexually liberated young men angry that Chun-Li got a half inch breast reduction or something, right?
Kayden Long
Also,
we're not the ones ramming our cars into people we disagree with
We've all seen the video, the motherfucker hit the gas from practically 50 feet away
Telling you that you're literally incorrect about the motivations of people whose actions I don't necessarily agree with isn't "making excuses," you desperate rhetorical trash-fire
Ryan Howard
Also,
Oh come on.
Landon Peterson
You guys struck the right several times before that shit. They were going to fight back eventually.
Jayden Davis
By that logic, if someone attacks me I should burn down the house their family lives in
James Hughes
...
Connor Gomez
...
Brody Phillips
come on now m8
Andrew Perez
...
David Roberts
I know, but gamergate turned reactionaries more noisy.
Jose Perry
All I'm saying is that the left truck first. The violence starts with the left (inb4 hate speech is violent). The right just escalated force. The left chose to end all discussion.
Bentley Hill
I think you need to go have a little lie down, buddy.
Also, I think whoever made that kind of missed some of the point of the movie somewhat. A large part of the gulf between the character's ambitions and their sheer ineptitude. Chris Morris had WAY more sophisticated and well-researched observational into jihadist groups than of you retards could manage.
Great humour actually requires you to understand the subject of ridicule before you engage, but the right-wing simply can't do comedy because the moment they see something they don't like, they get too angry to carry. Therefore everything has to be propaganda all the time.
Adrian Powell
No, you explicitly equated targeting unarmed protesters with the intent to kill with fighting back against armed antifa. That's absolutely warped, do not backpedal.
Xavier Anderson
i dunno, the similarities are there
for example both camps have a taste for kids
Charles Miller
Also, the fact that you even think that the "left" counterprotesters were a single monolithic bloc with identical aims and tactics shows how little you actually understand. Stop drinking the damn kool-aid.
Eli Moore
Unarmed protesters with baseball bats and mace.
Angel Gonzalez
Seriously, I want to explain to me how attacks done in the name of possibly the most right-wing and conservative form Islam, something funded largely by a country where the rulers probably despise feminism even more than you do, is by any definition 'left wing'.
Do it right now, or fuck off.
Christopher Fisher
...
Oliver Turner
This. Why are right-wingers so violent.
Henry Ortiz
google "systemic violence"
just because the extent of violence you experience is limited to the ebil antifa, doesn't mean "the left" started anything
Benjamin Lee
I never implied Islam was left-wing
this guy is not me
Jack Cruz
Seriously, you seem to think you're smart with your pithy remarks, but the reality is, you're just betraying the fact that you at best you have a ridiculously simplistic understanding of everything that's been argued about in this thread, and at worst you have such a lack of basic historical and political knowledge that you're incapable of meaningfully addressing any points lobbied your way except by parroting Holla Forums bullshit
Jayden Bell
Probably something to do with all the testosterone they take.
Justin Jenkins
No, you said, 'the left truck first', therefore implying that truck attacks done by fundamentalist Islamists are somehow left-wing, and since that happened, it is therefore justifying you ramming a car into protesters.
I want you to explain how Wahhabism left-wing.
Carter Hernandez
sorry that was a typo should have been the left "STRUCK" first. my bad.
Landon Carter
SJWs are their biggest enemies, because contrary to their rhetoric, they do believe in white privilege, and feel like SJW types cheated them out of it. Fascism is always for those who feel like they were promised more.
I guess you could argue that Islam doesn't subscribe to ethnocentrism like the right-wingers and their dogma does include a socialist economic plan which is far from right-wing.
Nathan Wood
Wow, you're modicum less retarded than I thought you were. Congratulations. But I'm disappointed though, I thought we were going to have some fun with trying to argue that Islam is leftist.
You still haven't justified how ramming protesters is justified though. Terrorising small towns armed militia and Nazi paraphernalia. Very low. I thought you guys were in favour of defending yourselves from dangerous outsiders.
Zachary Sanchez
How so?
Dominic Cooper
Somebody needs to screencap his arguments for future use. It's too perfect
Christian King
I suppose there is some argument in. It lacks ethnocentralism, though the versions practiced by the most violent groups are still very Arab-centric, and still practice the same kind of social values preached by the Western right almost to a tee, even down to the double-standard of what is practiced vs what is preached by the ruling Saudis.
I often wonder why the western right-wing hates Islam so much because it still feels like they have so much in common.
Justin Hughes
"Systemic violence" is an ideological excuse basically boiling down to "the mere existence of our enemies constitutes violence and justifies our response". Anyone using it seriously instantaneously removes himself from honest discourse.
Are you implying that only ethnocentrism is right-wing? Because reactionary religious fundamentalism is pretty fucking right-wing.
Also, Read a book anytime.
Evan Smith
That didn't have anything to do with socialism.
Levi Green
Do you even fucking know what socialism is
Adam Fisher
Wew there lad.
They try to solve the problem of poverty, for instance, by keeping the poor alive; or, in the case of a very advanced school, by amusing the poor.
Parker King
Have you stopped beating your wife yet, OP?
Gamergate turned me into a Marxist, and every time we have threads about what brought people to Holla Forums I am reminded that I am not alone.
Caleb Hall
what the fuck are you illiterate or what
Kayden Watson
He seems like the type who seriously thinks that taxes in a capitalist economy are "socialism"
Matthew Butler
maybe if you buy into evolutionary psychology - not sure if I do or not tbh. but i do think that pretty much everybody, regardless of overarching political philosophy, recognises that men actually abandoning their traditional gender roles would be extremely deleterious to any functional society for the foreseeable future if it were to happen en masse. so nobody is really willing indulge the idea, including (and sometimes especially) those who advocate for women having the option to abandon their traditional roles. polite sage for off-topic
Brayden Harris
They were armed protesters affiliated. with a group with a history of violence. Up until that point antifa were the only ones attacking people. The right did everything by the books up until Charlottesville. The left is the side that attacked free speech first. They ended all dialog. This doesn't mean it was ok to kill that woman only that the left ended all discussion. The right isn't going to let people shut them up.
Jose Ortiz
[citation needed]
Caleb Sanders
Funny considering the Right has never in it's history engaged in "honest discourse".
Nolan Miller
Well what counts as a "gamer"?
Grayson Rodriguez
We know your game and see through it. You're just pissed that we aren't fooled by your dog whistles like the liberals are.
Ian Nelson
You can vomit as much victim rhetoric as you want, but you have yet to prove that all the counter-protesters were armed antifa. Also, I've seen the footage. The people hit by the car sure as hell did not look armed to me. It sounds like you're swallowing a heaping load of self-serving bullshit.
Jonathan Smith
And at this point, you've basically ceded all high ground and admitted you're just participating in tribal warfare.
Noah Hill
Who is Dylann Roof?
Benjamin Powell
...
Juan Robinson
Yeah, I understand what is to be gained by coming here. That kind of shit only works with non-politically engaged neo-liberals who can't read subtext.
Anthony Foster
A lone wolf. Antifa is a large group. The left engages in organized political violence.
Charles Green
Hard to say but I guarantee I've single-credit cleared more arcade games than anyone else on Holla Forums.
Joseph Davis
Can you tell me who the leader of Antifa is?
Landon Ramirez
Actually, scratch that, can you even tell me any prominent public Antifa figurehead at all?
Dylan Wood
funny you'd actually use that term as it describes an openly declared right wing strategy of terrorism so they can push any blame against them aside
Jordan Johnson
You guys don't have a centralized leadership.
Jackson Cox
I mean, if they're so well-organised, they should have a pretty well-defined power structure, right? I mean, I could rattle off all kinds of right-wing groups and their prominent figureheads. many of them showed up at Charlottesville.
For the old school boomerfags, you had David Duke of the KKK, for wife-beating manlets, you had Nathan Damigo of Identity Evropa, for more your less hipster old-school fascist, you have Matthew Heimbach of the Traditionalist Workers Party, and for fucking morons, you have Dicky Spencer of the National Policy Institute who claims to have coined the term 'alt-right'.
You can't even name ONE prominent member of the scary Antifa boogeyman.
Hudson Smith
Yeah, it's called an autonomous movement, jackass.
Kayden Sanchez
That is about bashing the fash…
Chase Gray
Pretty cool, isn't it?
Michael Evans
Well, when common universally held tenants of fascism are based on the idea that certain people live in a particular nation don't even the right to exist there, and that they will use violent intimidation tactics on small communities, yeah, it's kind of inevitable that the fash will get bashed.
Believe it or not, in the US, there is actually a legal concept of 'fighting words', and there may actually be some legal defence for, say, a black person who punches someone for calling them a 'nigger' right in their face.
Blake Ortiz
...
Jeremiah Morales
ehehehe…
Aaron Gomez
People on the right aren't showing up in large groups to commit acts of political violence…
Adrian Hall
ITT: We pretend to care about political outlooks on gaming but we only suck our own dicks based on how much time we've wasted.
Ryan Wright
...
Zachary Green
Correct. The only conspiracy is these same companies using liberals as a shield to avoid criticism from their consumers. Though that is also prominent in other entertainment industries. Also most self identified "hardcore gamers' tend to be contrarian in nature. A good example is how GTA 4 is loved more than 5 despite being considered a disappointment as it was back in 2008.
Grayson King
We don't but now I do.
Xavier Cox
and when is that
Asher Sullivan
...
Kayden Rivera
I, for one, support the trend of hot black women with natural hair in video games.
Grayson Phillips
Retard, you realize the concept of a "right to freedom of speech/expression" is a leftist/liberal invention, right? Look up the Declaration of the Rights of Man. Or the Areopagitica, written by John Milton, a radical who supported regicide and republicanism.
Reactionaries at the time opposed free speech and if it were up to them, it would've never existed at all. For the right-wing, deference to authority and hierarchy is a positive good to be encouraged.
Nicholas James
I can't believe they're acting like nobody here knows what dog whistles are.
Sebastian Lopez
It's amazing how the right-wing manages to make people forget how right-wingers in the past have opposed every introduction and/or expansion of human rights or civil rights. Free speech, secularism, universal education, abolition of feudalism and slavery, workers' rights, voting rights, womens' rights, minority rights, gay rights – the right-wing at the time opposed them all and still oppose many of them.
This is not the say that the left doesn't have its share of genuine authoritarians. But on the right-wing, authoritarianism is a feature, not a bug.
Lack of any coherent ideology or political philosophy of their own aside from desiring whatever produces games for them to play and the conditions to keep on playing them.
They're not evil (mostly), just divorced from reality in the same way that otaku are. Games, anime, comics, whatever, are all anesthetics for the pain created by modern society and there are large swaths of the young male population for whom these concentrated forms of the Spectacle are the only escape, and when that's threatened to be "taken away" then they, because they "don't care about politics" and are divorced as much as possible from them and political reality, simply react.
Jacob Bailey
...
Aaron Ramirez
It's "do all the same" in both scenarios. But I suppose it's more about companies adverse to any sort of risk and tech industry groupthink than really SJW shit. Kneejerkers gonna Kneejerk.
Daniel Morgan
Someone please post that webm
Gavin Hill
nah m8, if it wasn't for GG Holla Forums wouldn't exist. not everyone was duped. And besides pewdiepie was always trash.
Dominic Gray
Pewdiepie definitely sympathizes with the Sweden Democrats and possibly a bit with old school nazism which isn't reactionary (it was extremely progressive for its time, don't use liberal establishment lingo please. Their anthem even included a line about fighting reactionaries. Reactionary=conservative=doesn't like rapid change. Progressive=likes rapid change). SD is not really reactionary like the old "moderaterna", but they try to pander to old grumpy ladies by rebranding themselves as "actually reactionary" because it sounds better than "nationalist". Their base was some kind of turd position moderate left leaning ""liberal"" ultra-nationalism.
I think the 'gamers' like pewdiepie and jontron just blurt out pretty obvious liberal fallacies in an un-nuanced way, and since the old left has completely failed to battle these liberal platitudes recently it means that most people who dislike these things will inevitably end up with the right wingers.
As for gamers in general a combination of social isolation and a lot of no no zone information leads to radicalisation and again for the same reason as mentioned above that pushes you to the right.
Eli Campbell
We're not liberals, Holla Forums.
Gabriel Green
Hence why I told you not to use liberal lingo /friend/
Leo Morgan
the liberal establishment is reactionary though
Nathan Howard
"buh-but they said so in their anthem!"
Wyatt Reed
Kind of yeah. But they like to misuse the term conservative/progressive.
They had a few reactionary elements for sure, but really going from "everyone is made by god" to "lets snip peoples balls and make a new race" and all that was very novel and radically different from the current status quo. Hence the term progressive. The nazis had absolutely 0 regard for taking it slow and cautiously changing things over time. Especially the early more radical ones like Asser/Röhm and their gangs. Hitler himself did suck reactionary dicks to get support though.
I know it might upset you that I call them progressive because to the liberal establishment, the term has become synonymous with "good" when it really just means "really different from the current norm". A batshit insane ethno-nationalist that wants to genetically manipulate the next generation of children and kill the jews would be very progressive today too. Except he would be progressing in a bizarre direction.
Leo Cox
Declaring yourself fascist is abandoning all discourse, abandoning democracy for violence. Anti-fascist is inherently anti-violence. Fascists are never allowed to play the victim.
Brayden Smith
Hitler was buttbuddies with the catholic church, the anti-jew rhetoric was rehashed from Luther, and Hitler still used christian rhetoric in his speeches. Nazi germany wasn't an atheist or even secular state at all. Actually, even the race theory was rehashed from some medieval propaganda approved by catholic church. Nah, I think it's fair to call them reactionary because they were still serving the same masters as before, that being the catholic church and big capitalists(even the big scary j00s en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockefeller_Foundation#Eugenics)
They were most definitely a reactionary movement that was only marketed as progress, quite the same what populists have always been doing and still do.
Gabriel Bailey
How are you really this stupid?
James Nelson
As far as I'm aware, the race theory is wrapped up in pagan and occultist myths about Aryans. I don't think the catholic Church had anything to do with it. Unless you have a source for that.
Evan Baker
What the fuck happened? Are you saying that pewdiepie is a reactionary because he used the word nigger?
Brayden Murphy
no he's reactionary because he's capitalist
Juan Collins
Try reading OP a little closer next time. He's talking about the reaction to what PewdiePie said, not necessarily PDP himself.
And he's right. Even if you look at the comment section on PDP's videos, its clear that his most vocal audience is significantly more reactionary than he actually is.
Lucas Turner
Hello, I'm that faggot who keeps saying that Gamergate was right about everything and the left fucked up hardcore by siding with SJWs, thus giving the right a monopoly on the truth. Just to let you know I'm still right. Later, fags.
James Morris
it caters to their audience , they do what brings in the dosh , mate
Dominic Phillips
I honestly don't even know what gamergate is. I feel like people on chan boards really overestimate how much this stuff means to people in real life.
William Cox
nobody does
Jayden Mitchell
they see me rollin, they hatin
Juan Morales
They had pagan and occultism in their aesthetics and the Aryan myth, sure. But the rest of their racial theory mostly comes much closer from home, for example Johann Friedrich Blumenbach, german physician from 1700's who came up with the 5 main races (caucasian, mongoloid, malay, negroid, american) and proposed that each races have different skull sizes. This is just one of the many big inspirations for the Nazies, but the point is that there was nothing progressive about their race theory, quite the contrary it was hundreds of years old already and scientific mainstream was already moving away from it, while catholic church wanted to hold on to it because they wanted to justify their racism. I don't know what source to give you exactly, these are my own observations from studying the WW2 extensively.
Alexander Davis
they are both retards so yes
Jeremiah Ross
how is stalin a retard?
Cameron Stewart
getout pedofag
Dominic James
I'm not going to dispute what you just wrote but it's a quite different from saying the race theory is rehashed catholic propaganda. I think anti-semitism is largely caused by Christianity, but the race theory stuff seems to be different.
Brayden Jenkins
right wing has literally no track record at all, there is absolutely nothing of value right of center and never ever was
Julian Morgan
for all things considered stalin was pretty much a Holla Forumsyp hiding his power level under pseudo-communist retoric
Joshua Baker
You can stop beating up a straw man now. We hate those shitheads even more than you.
Jeremiah Perez
When will the "the left sided with SJWs" meme end? If anything it was the opposite. The liberal left is like a tumor. Sides with everything deemed vaguely progresive and completely oblivious to the damage it's causing
Brayden Stewart
Fucking idiot
Robert Davis
There's a fucking thread on this board crying about ebil gamurgadders every fucking day as if this shit is even still going on and criticizing their hatred for SJWs
Jaxson Mitchell
That's because the goddamn Holla Forumsyps who hijacked the movement started calling everyone left of them an SJW. And you still do, because without you literally have no hold on the normies without a boogyeman to scare them with.
Xavier Hall
Star Wars is for children, and tons of stupid adults eat that garbage up.
Gavin Lopez
You can't really believe that. How many people have pink hair and problem glasses on the left? Guess what they are.
William Campbell
...
Eli Green
Idpolers are SJWs and idpoling SJWs compose the vast majority of the modern left and especially far-left in Western countries. It's inescapable and inseparable at this point.
Look at radical leftists that go to fight in Rojava even, they bring their IDpoling shit with them and show it off to the world.
Isaac Sanchez
idpoling SJWs are anti-universalist and not leftist by default
Blake Myers
Everybody's a reactionary. Not everybody walking the earth is a master of theory.
Austin Ward
He's right, the only idiots are tankies who actually think they're fooling anybody with this charade
Brody Harris
Read Marx, accept materialism into your life, and stop being such a fucking embarrassment.
David Perez
But… I clearly stated that we, the left, are distinct from SJWs, whom we – well, you fags at any rate'' – believed, despite knowing they're always full of shit.
Apparently a janny failed to notice I made this distinction too.
I'm sorry user, but it's true. For all the shitting we do on liberals, when they cried about mysogynists worse than ISIS and Ebola the left at large believed them, thanks to them freuqenting the same circle(jerks).
Connor Ramirez
I am a Marxist socialist, I am a video game enthusiast, and I was very much a supporter of the movement for better video game journalism and consumer standards. I even played a big part in writing and editing that huge "dossier" of past video game journalism scandals during the first few months of the controversy. I never believed those cocksuckers for a second because I've considered video game journalism a big fucking joke for decades and I was one of the very people being smeared as a misogynerd to direct attention away from journalistic malfeasance. Enough straw men.
Samuel Butler
What do you expect?
Liam Ramirez
lurk for at least like 3 minutes jesus christ
Carter Robinson
Of course I don't literally mean every damn leftist fell for SJWs' claptrap. I was another one like you back at the start, and I salute you for your efforts. It's just that every day I would hope some leftist e-celeb or other join our side and denounce these hipster pseudo-leftist journos as that would be a far stronger blow against SJWs than any proto-alt-right retard would, but every day I saw them actually rubbing their dicks together about how "ugh I hate videogames #patreon". It was madenning seeing those leftists who know for a fact that SJWs and journos are compulsive liars just up and believe every damn thing they said about GG.
Brody Anderson
Annarc flag
No
Bentley Davis
can't be further from the truth. they despised the catholic church but kept it in line (not the other way around) only because they didn't want to violently uproot it from the german people. as for "big capitalists", well if they really were in favor of nazism this side would have won the war. the war wouldn't even have begun in the first place.
Connor Richardson
At the end, all the big names at this point left at this point were goons, so obviously the gonna defend them over you. Social Status in the ingroup> Principles.
Christian Gray
Is he probably a racist? Yeah I guess
Do I care? Not all that much. I hate that these two things are conflated though as if one person being racist means I have to immediately give a shit.
Aaron Smith
They were explicitly in favor of sexual freedom, environmentalism, and many other ideas usually labeled as progressive. The main difference being an almost veterinarian eugenist orientation, the world divided between a cattle to breed and protect and the external and internal threats to that cattle.
Mostly bullshit, beyond a strictly aesthetic decorum. They were influenced by Traditionalist mythos and oriental religions but I don't think they went far with it. To me it's just the historical form of how much bolshevik and materialistic the germans could go at that time.
Christian Hughes
pic-related
Hunter Perry
nice discussion there guys
Carter Howard
kys honestly
Landon Flores
...
Juan Lee
sorry, not buying the "one retard in a car equals every single rightist present" magical equation. could be a false-flag as far as i'm concerned. neither am i buying the "one fat chick having a heart attack is an act of terrorism" one. must be weird to live inside CNN.
Jaxon Wood
imagine my shock
Colton Russell
Whereas all Muslims must hang because some retard in a truck right?
Lucas Lewis
pick one
Henry Baker
Look I'm not that guy but this argument is garbage. Terrorist attacks are low hanging fruit when it comes to attacking an ideology, and by retaliating on this front you're arguing on that dipshit's terms.
Parker Martin
Who can blame em. They live a comfortable existence so getting laid matters more than getting paid.
Leo Jones
They only have to get the fuck out. They will stop being bombarded, divided and conquered once (You) and your side hang.(USER WAS DIRECTED TO AN ACCEPTING AND TOLERANT LARP GROUP FOR THIS POST)
Elijah Gutierrez
bro we all know you're some greasy amerilard sitting in a basement, stop talking tough online it's obviously not convincing anybody and it's just kind of embarrassing
Caleb Hill
Feminists and """"leftists"""" on the industry only want unions for their friends , like the voice artists. Neckbeard code shitters can still be treated like shit, they don't care, cause HR supremacy is their source of power. I don't blame them entierly tho, SJW is good to the Bay area porkies cause it help keeping the plebs in line, but at the second those twitter leftists try unionising, they would get shut down faster than Bernie by the DNC. Better for the ego to get easy victories on gender shit, that you realize that what you really want is unreachable by design.
Tyler Ortiz
Wew lad Muslim refugees are fleeing from wars started by western right-wingers for the sake of profit, and the right have always been the ones who encouraged immigration for economic reasons, just look at Merkel. The left are the only ones who legitimately want to end the wars and economic imperialism responsible for causing mass migration in the first place. Some of you might claim to oppose war because you think its done for the sake of Israel or some shit and an even smaller portion of you might legitimately oppose war in general, but you still cheered and beat your chests when Agent Orange increased the US's already ridiculous military budget, and you still support a system that prioritizes profit over human lives, of which war is a natural consequence. Its really quite sad, you reactionaries have your ridiculous mantras about "securing a future for our children" and such yet you support a system that is ultimately harmful to everyone but the ruling class and condemn the people on the left who actually want to improve the lives of all working class people.
Joshua Gomez
Yeah, I guess you're right, I shouldn't have gotten my hopes up where politics are concerned, even in something this parochial. Also, funny you should mention goons, because Virgil Texas is the perfect example of everything I said.
But still, I figured that, statistically, someone would put their money where their mouth was. Kriss, DeBoer, anyone who until then I had some respect for. And instead, what do I get? The editor-in-fucking-chief of Mother Jones whining about Twitter changing the thumbs-up to a heart, then crying harassment and "#ETHICS" when she was deservedly mocked.
Twitter was a huge mistake.
Nathaniel Sanchez
the whole PewDiePie thing is just him crying for attention.Look at this views, he barely gets over 5 million of the, he isn't relevant, the media is keeping him relevant
Tyler Robinson
Left Leon is RE2, middle is RE4. Is the right one from RE6?
Elijah Ramirez
yes
Liam Edwards
After the revolution I demand a gamer pogrom. Start with the pubg players.