What's with the sectarianism here? Why do you faggots worry about who's more tankie or ultra

What's with the sectarianism here? Why do you faggots worry about who's more tankie or ultra

because neither of those groups actually care about the working class.

I don't tbqh

This.
They are against the core of our ideologies and give the far-left a bad name.

We've been doing this shit since before the 1st international yet a loose collective of depressed 20-something proles next the nazi hive of the internet is somehow going to be the place that stops being sectarian?

Into the trash it goes.

I'm glad this place isn't a cheerleading echochamber like Holla Forums
If you mind the secterianism, perhaps you'd be more at home at r/communism, r/socialism and other 'socialist' subs.

I can understand debates and disagreements but there's a lot of unecessary bashing at tankies or anarchists

fuck you maoist

I like Mao but im not really a maoist, eh

Well we anarchists have seemingly got better at taking the bait, maybe if tankies didn't sperg out at every negative comment about the USSR we'd have a better board.

Because Left-Communists care more about theories than people, Anarchists are utopian, only Marxism-Leninism has proven to be succesful, there was a lot of mistakes in the past but we can't fuck it up next time

This is bait.

Yeah a lot of the times someone throws shit at tankies it's just bait
I feel like a huge faggot for being an ML but still being fond of anarchists

yeah it was bait

Because there are real and fundamental disagreements between these tendencies and there's little point to pretending to all be one big happy family when chances are you'll end up in the gulag if the opposing faction takes over.

Then stop replying to it you fucking retards.

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All tankie bashing is necessary

Crazy stuff happens.

What does it mean to be a tankie and what does it mean to be just a leninist, i kinda dislike stalin and yet i've been called a tank

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Wait you don't have to admit it. This is a first.

The fuck? Capital is just left economics

"M-L" and "M-L-M" as in Stalinists and Maoists are just braindead revisions of otherwise decent theory

the tankie word comes from Stalin sending in the tanks to bully better socialists :^)

replace capital with state and revolution

the right-lib corner is the joke guys

Marx more or less covers the whole left, not that I care.

A tankie accepts the USSR as the natural result of applying Lenin's theory and defends it to around the time of Stalin's death while saying that's what they want to do. A "Leninist" pretends it isn't and disavows the USSR after 1921 or so in public while wanting to build a new USSR.

i feel like a retard

sectarianism is good and healthy

We could tell that by the flag.

I like Mao tho

I started wondering does anyone support the post-Stalin USSR?

But we like Marx

Despite the "MLM" title the two don't actually mix well

Nazbol gang is here

Some call it sectarianism, I call it strands of similar ideology being tested and pushed and honed and discarded in an environment where personal beefs are less of a thing than IRL and have almost no consequences allowing the discussion to be without boundaries .

At least we can all agree on that the Soviet Union was socialist until Stalin's death, same goes for China but with Mao

No, we don't agree with the Great Man theory of history, whereby the nature of an entire nation's economy changes the moment its leader dies.

This is an anarchist board in its inception, and was ruined by white males who want power just like fascists, but with soviet aesthetics.

The problem is that ideologies are too rigid. Adapting ideas and theory according to different situations is vital. Australia has different conditions than the USA or Nepal.
Generally we got the end goal, we disagree on how to get there though.

Tankies are the only ones with any sense of pragmatism and realpolitik, though. The rest are too pureideology.

SECTARIANISM MAKES ME SO FUCKING ANGRY
HOW THE FUCK DO WE EXPECT TO DO SHIT IF WE SHOOT OURSELVES IN THE FOOT
WHY IS A UNITED LEFT SOMETHING REGARDED AS TRASH AND NOT A GOAL?
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Divisiveness is the left's original sin. Whomever manages to untie that knot will become the Red Ghengis Khan.

Anyway, Holla Forums is honestly the least sectarian place I have seen that isn't a socjus torture chamber.

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but it dosent matte because "Left-Unity" and "Anti-sectarianism" are memes
either one party will win the revolution or no-one will

but without the gulag socialist states wouldn't exist for a year let alone decades

and even then it showed that simply gulaging wasn't enough

How?

Left-unity is liberal trash

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can we stop calling it gulag and start calling it prison?

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Leftists have literally killed each other in the past, it will never unite
And that is not exactly a bad thing, you know

As a ML I dont necessarily want to get along with idealist teenagers AKA anarchists

And as an anarchist I don't want to get along with edgy socdems like you or hapastalin.

It's not our fault that Anarchists like to shit on actually existing socialism in order to pander to liberals.

Yeh being automatically purist and completely ignoring how the proletariat actually think and feel went so well for the Italian communists

HOT damn that's spicy