What the fuck are we going to do about this much disinformation?
How is today's youth so susceptible to every reactionary PJW, Molyneux, Ben Shapiro, "The Thinkery", "No Bullshit" and BlackPigeonSpeaks with a microphone and a popular opinion?
I mean fucking….GUYS. We're losing. Big time. Sure the viewers of all these vids are probably an average of 15 years old, but in just 3 years' time that means they could VOTE.
Anybody who got their first understanding of politics from YouTube will grow into thinking Muslims pose a larger threat to America than climate change, government surveillance and inequality. Or that extreme feminism and "leftism" are interchangeable terms. Or that Trump is DOING A DECENT JOB.
Do we really not have a single YouTuber who gets millions of views? Leftism is supposed to have the ultimate in edge and youth appeal. As I see it now, it's barely visible online outside of bubbles like this.
Xexizy Bad Mouse production Hbomberguy Shaun and jen Contra points Finnish bolshevik Jason Unhure
Daniel Stewart
best you can get is lukewarm social-liberals :^) so much for cultural marxists having a stranglehold over popular culture
Oliver Davis
omg
Caleb Cooper
Well, fuck me if these channels are the largest a leftist YouTuber could ever get.
Wyatt Kelly
Why is leftist youtube so small and shitty? They all collectively have less subs than some right wing channels.
Xavier Johnson
Fuck YouTube, and fuck shitty meme-politics.
Robert Wright
I'm working on it OP.
Give me a year to get 10,000 subs.
Thomas Bennett
It is cause leftists are too smart so we rather read a book than watch youtube.
bazimga xd
William Brooks
Yes, the left is really weak on youtube. Reminder to subscribe to all these youtube channels and upvote (and comment on) any video they upload. This is for the sake of making leftism more visible. Posting is literally warfare.
Don't expect anybody here to do anything. No one on Holla Forums has the force of personality to pull it off.
Christian Edwards
Most youtubers are American, good luck finding any leftist there outside of maybe 50 people on this board. There are plenty SJWs claiming to be anti-capitalist, but we all know how laughable that is. The left is all but dead in America, which was the entire goal of liberals painting themselves as leftists in the first place.
Daniel Cruz
Aren't these people financed? It's hard to quit working on anything to focus on making shitty youtube vidoes, even once or twice a week, responding to every new bit of drama without funding. We are in a capitalist society after all.
Joseph Rogers
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Ryder Jones
western media has been majority fascist for decades. the transition of influence from television-based talking heads to those on the internet has done nothing to change this. those pushing easy answers and convenient scapegoats will always be popular.
the problem with the "leftist" vloggers is that they have zero charisma (and extreme autism), they don't spend all their shooting fish in a barrel, and they waste far too much time quibbling over theory and imagined socialist futures rather than focusing on the here and now.
most non-msm media takes the form of "conspiracy" thinking/theorizing (also msm since trump/putin) - there's nothing unusual about this. conspiracy is bound to be popular, when living under fascism (which is inherently conspiratorial) yet there are no antifascist youtubers tying all the various trendy conspiracies back to the system itself and the military-industrial complex that serves it. why not?
Kevin Gomez
This. All the liberal 'left'' are is controlled opposition. They take donations from the same corporations and trans-national bankers as the republicans. Their purpose is to keep the proletariat distracted with harmless token rebellion over inconsequential issues like 'gender' and race. If a truly leftwing voice became popular youtube would shut it down in an instant.
Justin Torres
They are growing. Give it time. In two or even just one year they might even start to challenge the right wingers in popularity.
Charles Kelly
We need Lefty youtubers that don't just do theory and debunking videos. Someone that makes videos commenting on current events and news from a socialist perspective.
Nice knee jerk reaction. One thing I hate about this board is screeching "IDPOL REEEE!!!11!!!1" when ever you so much as suggest that things feminism ok. The last video Badmouse made on a subject that could be considered Idpol was more than a year ago. Hbomberguy and Shaun mostly just debunk retarded rational skeptics and "anti-SJWs". Even if they sometimes dip into Idpol, is that reason enough to dismiss them entirely? I don't think so.
Jaxon Morris
Leftist youtuber should start covering real problems, not Calling Trump supporters nazis. Things like student debt in the US, The corruption of big banks. The worsening conditions of workers and the middle class all over the World.
Brody Watson
The right wing youtubers probably have some sort of secret financer/script writer, it really wouldn't surprise me. Think about how timely it would be for porky to have all political debate around the time of crisis and stagnation to be about idpol and karltural marxists instead of capitalism
Noah Sanders
Jason does this
Carson Clark
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Isaac Robinson
But he's an insane sect member
Camden Green
You can't stop Generation Zyklon.
Hunter Campbell
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Ian Mitchell
Casey Neistat :^)
Dylan Gonzalez
Zero Books is the best one.
Do you really think a random 14 year old watching some marxist youtuber will end up reading Kapital? Youtube is a dead end, it is only useful for propaganda. The format itself incentivizes lazy 5 minute conspiracy videos and pseudo-intellectual garbage marketed to a specific vulnerable group of people. You can't just beat the system while playing by it's rules.
Camden Gray
The situation is a fucking mess, but look at the good side: one year and a half ago we'd be wondering where are all the left-wing podcasts, now that Chapo created a model that works, there are so many of them you can't even follow them all.
Eventually some leftist will hit gold and make video content that appeals to people enough that they will pay for it, then all the starving humanities graduates will chime in.
I'm not even joking or trying to be mean when I say this, but if none of those people existed it would be better for us. They've done nothing but spread tons of misinformation, as they seem to think that they can 'guess' what socialist theory instead of having to read it, and they have embarrassed us in countless debates.
There are a few I don't know, but I won't give them the benefit of the doubt.
Yes, fuck this very simple, accessible and potentially profitable vehicle of information! Real leftists sell newspaper only! Fucking retard.
There's Patreon now, though. Hopefully it will make it easier for some of our guys to make content.
Evan Garcia
DemSoc01 always makes well-sourced videos. Mexie and Contrapoints both have a background in academia. From what I've seen, Hakim is pretty decent. I liked his video about capitalism lifting people out of poverty.
The rest are pretty meme-tier, as far as I know.
Ethan Collins
oh ok we'll pretend the fascism hasn't intensified the past 5 years then
Luke Edwards
you've misread. or are reading something that isn't there. what you've quoted makes no comment on the trajectory of fascism. fwiw i'd agree that it's intensifying. the quote suggests that the youtube format has done little to challenge the fascist domination of media, instead it's allowed for even more extreme forms to become mainstream
William Scott
Good buzzwords I've sure been convinced
David Diaz
Lefty youtube is small because you have to be ill read and stupid to be a fucking youtuber
Shame people for not reading books instead of begging others to spoon feed you knowledge
It's really sad that out of all the rad left orgs and personalities out there that only Jason Unruhe does a daily news show on youtube.
Elijah Gutierrez
Now this is a politically incorrect opinion.
Julian Williams
That aside, what is leftism? Mind you, Marx or Engels never called themselves leftists. This reduces politics and history to a dichotomy.
And the format of youtube just doesn't lends itself well to popular in-depth analysis, see . Try explaining Marxism in 5 minutes. The closest I've seen was multi-page documents and a 3+ hour youtube compilation. I would've assumed that Marx grand-narrative would have appeal in these times, but one reason it doesn't appeal might be because it doesn't have clear-cut solutions. Marx didn't provide a manual for how-to abolish capitalism.
Now check the examples you listed: They too feature grand narratives, but also clear solutions. If we only had less taxes/migrants/brown people these problems would be fixed! It's both a solution, and simple enough that you can stuff it into a 5 minute video.
Jason Howard
That's the problem user. We may not need Youtubers to spoon feed us knowledge, but your average normalfag does. You just can't expect them to read books by themselves.
Eli Long
The thing is, most of these kids believe just by enjoying the memes. If you want people who live their lives in a world of spectacle to listen, you have to play within that spectacle.
Brandon Sanchez
Right wingers actually play the game and make clickbaiting shit. Left wingers tend to try making just solid content. Youtube isn't an impartial platform. You have to play to the algorithms and humans' impulsive behavior if you want to get your shit popular.
Carter Smith
this OP
Logan Hill
It's an absolute delight watching this board cannibalize itself.
Leo Johnson
Why does it have to be 5 minutes? I've watched hundreds of hour+ long lectures on YouTube.
Aaron Evans
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Jayden Myers
And how many views do those videos have?
Nicholas Sanchez
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Dylan Foster
You did. You think the average person have the patience to do so?
Jacob Flores
Literally who does this?>>2065822 This
Colton Watson
we're fucked
Nicholas Ward
FinnBol's good tho
Liam Brooks
Sargon and all these fucking people are just the Keith Olberman 2005 era for reactionaries. It's the same appeal of Bush era hystericism.
Keith had Worst Person of the World, Sargon has This Day in Stupid
It's eerie how they repeat older media.
Aaron King
What an astonishingly stupid point.
Popular right-wing youtube personalities like Sargon and Molyneux constantly go over an hour in their videos. There is a lot you can teach within one hour. Besides that, you don't have to teach only Marxist theory, for fuck's sake. Teach a bit about individual personalities, historical events, different movement, different types of political reform, discuss welfare, finance, explain differences between different segments of the Left.
Jonathan Allen
You know how a bunch of atheists teamed up way back when and formed the "Rational Response Squad?" We need shit like that but nowhere near as obnoxious.
Ryder Walker
Sometime it feels like this fucking board exists for the sole purpose of discouraging any action. Propaganda is considered a waste of time, debating is considered a waste of time, organization is considered a waste of time, voting is considered a waste time, etc.
It also seems that fetishizing and rationalizing our own insignificance and fringe status has become the standard "I'm very smart" tone for some dweebs here.
Hudson Howard
No. Explain how that worked for people who were spared the pain of living through this.
Connor Bailey
Is it? If I go to r/socialism and r/politics I'll get different responses than here.
Yeah, but what is the grand-narrative that ties it all together? And can you explain that in 5 minutes? If I go to Holla Forums right now and ask them what National S-cialism is I bet I can get them to explain it in two or even one paragraph. Same with Sargon and Moly. And it usually boils down to "good vs evil". The world sucks because evil people ruin an otherwise perfect system. And those "evil" people are usually a combination of jews, sexual deviants, women, migrants, poor people, brown people, etc.
Most of their other content ties into that narrative.
Oliver Fisher
Been saying it for almost a year now: Chapo Trap House needs to start mimicking/lampooning the way Alex Jones, The Young Turks, Sam Seder, Joe Rogan and so on do their shows on live YouTube. With the amount of money that they pull in there's absolutely no reason that shouldn't have a well produced visual element to the show. Even if they don't want to do live shows they should at least film the recorded shows in Felix's apartment or whatever and upload the free episodes to YouTube.
Colton Morris
Again, what a stupid fucking point.
I've just told you it doesn't have to be 5 minutes and provided two extremely successful examples of dumbasses who produce hours-long content.
Break both of them down however we want, the point is that the model works and that lenghty content can be transmitted there. If they do it this or that way that's their problem. I'm not sure why you're even talking about grand-narratives, Sargon's good-vs-evil narrative, etc. That's immaterial. If they did that in front of a classroom we wouldn't call standard education unfit for our purposes. I'm assuming you're an undergrad who was just introduced to a new concept and now you can't shut up about it, because this is way besides the fucking point.
John Taylor
Tbh I noticed that right wing youtubers are often the only source of information for some people.
I have a bookshelf full of books on theory and I try to read as much as possible. Arpund 1am when me and my roomate are relaxing i notice he watches ben shapiro clips or something of the like while I am normally reading books or listening to podcasts while I play vidya/fuck around in ms paint. Just something I've noticed. I'm thinking about offering him some books but idk what he'll say
Reminder to subscribe to Zero Books' YouTube channel and to share with your friends. Doug Lain is /ourguy/ and works very hard on these videos.
Gabriel Diaz
The youtube algorythm buries a lot of them in favor of channels where a "journalist" reads an article they didn't write or watches some dumb video clip, rambles about it for 20 minutes, and often doesn't understand the basic points of the article/video. If only youtube would fix their shit.
Andrew Richardson
Felix has said he has no love for youtube as a website and wouldn't go there if they clamped his testicles
Angel Garcia
I mean I get that YouTube is trash but it really is a huge missed opportunity for them.
They could just start their own website and stream live shows from there.
Ayden Fisher
One time a goon , always a goon.
"Yeah, I could be way more popular and useful, but that site for dirty plebs are beneath me. I'm communist, btw."
Hey, leftypol theory geniuses, how do you make a revolution without the people anyway. Cause I really want to know.
Jackson Young
Reading books made it impossible for me to communicate with people.
But when I talk about the most fundamental shit people tell me to stop taking over everyones heads.
I've sort of given up. I have no frame of reference for what the average person knows. I didn't finish highscool but I talk circles around PHD students.
Im not claiming to be a misunderstood genius. Im fairly bright at best.
Sometimes Im glad I didn't finish highschool because I see what the prussian model does to brainwash people. But its genuinely lonely.
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Connor Reed
Youtube celebrities aren't people.
Benjamin Davis
Better a goon than a dumbass.
Brandon Reed
But their audience certainely are.
Jose Hill
Severely debatable
Gabriel Edwards
They should go to the website and appeal to people who's audience would buy up tickets for Ready Player One, men in their 30s who wear cargo shorts and can't tell when women are or are not wearing makeup
Sebastian Nelson
It's nice to feel better to common people, but I doubt the proles in their time were that much smarter in their day. Problem is all those smart leftists act like shonen vilains. "My next form is beneath those insects" and all that. That's not how you win. See it that way: All those youtube mouthbreathers are the equivalent to spooked proles believing in "God and country". It's not pretty, but you have to convince them to look the other way when you do your activities.
Tldr:At least fucking try, self absorbed misanthropes.
Problem is those probably smart leftists act like shonen viliains. "My best f
Joshua Reyes
This is coming from someone who's defending a moron who named himself after Sargon of Akkad
Kayden Sanchez
Psychotically online
Julian Sanders
If they have to attract these people, why are they so successful despite them
Wyatt Reyes
You forgot Learn Liberty and FagerU
Aaron Wilson
Do what Shaun and Jen do, make response videos to very popular right-wing videos regardless of how old they are. Such response videos have 5 times the number of views because people say "Oh yeah I know *insert e-celeb here* let's see what it's about" and will watch it.
Leo Carter
I'm not defending Sargon, he's an idiot who know jack and shit about anything. But all the knowledge you have is worthless is you can't pass it. The alt-right are short sighted morons. But they know how you tick Joe Sixpack. Joe Sixpack don't like immigration, don't like snerring liberals, don't like PC. So they say short sentences in a good tone,give easy (wrong) answers, and , bam, underdog status. And people love underdogs.
So you have to find what the plebs would like in you. Healthcare is good, opposition to big corps would be pretty great too. But I think the best would be proposing a model of a good society.
Colton Brooks
So I'm on old leftypol vet by now. I have interacted with most of the other vets probably in various different ways. I've been thinking recently of starting a youtube channel just focusing on imperialism, starting probably with a video about the Iran Contra affair and other such affairs. I want to make it so that it won't be overtly socialist, so that conspiracy orientated righttards could stumble across it and get inadvertently drawn into leftist history. How would you guys feel about this?
Elijah Harris
Makashima did nothing wrong
Gabriel Jenkins
This right here is why the left loses online. You're more worried about the fact that people who hold like 99% of your opinions and worldview are framing some things differently from how you would and claiming it's insurmountable idpol. Right wingers would just say "mostly good" or "decent starting point" and move the fuck on instead of being a pretentious cunt about fucking youtube entertainers.
Nolan Ross
Felix isn't here to entertain every possible demographic you fucking moron
Hudson Cooper
Nice reddit spacing you fucking fag, I should not be prompted to read more when half your text is fucking empty lines.
Jonathan Cox
Yeah but Felix isn't in charge and Will has said multiple times that they're working on a strategy for youtube content because it's such a missed platform
Tyler Hall
Matt has similar opinions, and I doubt they're going to youtube.
Juan Morris
The idea that the average NEET Sargon viewer is the modern day prole is hilarious
Xavier Sanchez
Hopefully they don't listen to fucking Matt when they decide how to present themselves to normos
Kayden Butler
at this point i've lost all hope might as well bring the nukes
Joshua Turner
Matt and Felix are the best fuck you
Angel Cruz
Idk I'm just saying what I heard, which is that they are debating how (not if) to engage youtube. The rest of the leftist podcast sphere (which is growing rapidly) need to address the platform as well, if only for self-promotion
Luke Peterson
I don't think they need to, they've been growing despite it.
Christopher Smith
I like Matt, but he can be an unfunny sperg. He's gotten better, but his comedic timing can be shit, and occasionally he'll drop an obscure reference followed by 30 seconds of silence. Felix is definitely the best for the quick japes and zings that youtube audiences crave
Isaiah Gutierrez
Maybe, and maybe there's a reason different formats appeal to such different audiences (why is the right having so much relative trouble with podcasts considering it's like the natural progression from right wing talk-radio?)
Andrew Carter
You're overthinking it. Just grab the closest girl, put her in front of a camera, and collaborate on script writing and production
Xavier Rivera
Matt is a perfect boy
Jack Flores
Why? Because it actually implies having to think about what entails "leftism"? Like what are we talking about here? Liberalism? Marxism? Anarchism? A lot of people think Cenk Uygur and the rest of the Young Turks are 'leftists', though they don't particular strike me as having read Marx, let alone understood. And if 'Leftism' is Marxism, Liberalism, Anarchism and/or anything else, why not just call it that? Why the vagueness?
And my point is that the narratives they tie into are relatively simple. I can make an hour long video 'explaining' that jews or migrants are evil, and it will easily tie into the good vs evil narrative. It is readily evident how it all connects. Compare that for example with Kapitalism101's videos about the Law of Value, which are about the shortest explanation of Marxism I've found, and don't even explain everything. Most of it is rather dry, and many parts can hardly be understood in isolation. And unlike Moly or Sargon, I'm not even able to relish in 'moral indignation' and my own sense of ''moral superiority'. Instead of a grand story of Good vs Evil all I get is a rather dry mechanical theory about what makes civilization tick. Can you see which one is more appealing?
And what sort of content do you want to transmit here? Do you just want another variation of the "good vs evil" narrative, replacing all the previous mentioned groups with capitalists? Or do you actually want to entice people into a materialist understanding of history and the world? "Poor people are oppressed, capitalists are evil!" is hardly a fresh narrative. Besides, it has already been shown you can just turn that upside down and call 'poor people' evil, entitled and lazy. It has the intellectual depth of a kiddie pool.
Because it helps explain why genuinely Marxist content (if we define that as left in this context) is less popular, even if it has been around for years.
I guess I'll put it more nuanced then: It's not that we're unable to make Marxist or other higher-tier theory content, but that it will be less appealing than good-vs-evil narratives. And if we do try to use the latter narrative, people can just turn it upside down. And even if they believe it, it still has explained next to nothing about how the world works, nor is it guaranteed it make them read further.
It's at the heart of the issue.
Xavier Kelly
He looks so neanderthalic I bet he's at least 95% European
Angel Lewis
this is the future the alt right wants
Nicholas Ramirez
I really liked those. Inspired me to read kapital.
Blake Morris
Europeans don't look like cave Ameriburger
Jose Flores
Do not call Matt a cave ameriburger you stupid little cuck
Matthew Robinson
If I encountered this scene I dont know what I would do first, grab Matt's clearly protruding nipple, or fuck up virgil's hair.
Cooper Lopez
They exist, it's just their pathetic though.
Luis Stewart
Too long and too much stupid shit. Won't bother replying. 3/10.
Tyler Parker
BTFO
Oliver Hall
Okay!
Wyatt Gutierrez
This.
Look guys, admit what the right-wingers already do: that people are stupid and need shit explained to them in terms and examples they can understand. Sometimes you need feels to get people to learn about the reals. Don't make an hour-long video about the intricacies of capital and immigration. As cringey and "pop-cultury" it may seem, you need to make those jump cuts, add that snark, use a few "lite" fallacies just so people still want to follow along. If we live in spectacle. we might as well fucking use it. Now is not the time for purity.
Levi Williams
Different user. You used popularity in terms too vague and subjective, despite not using youtube they are far more successful elsewhere. I wouldn't think how youtube promotes content be an ideal window into how people work.
Robert Allen
This is a good post. Optics are very important and we need to understand what we're trying to achieve and understand the people we're trying to relay the message to.
I think we need more anti-reactionaries like S&J and bomberguy to dismantle the grip the ring-wing has on youtube and in general discourse. Most kekistanis have some type of argument against popular leftists talking points and they have the numbers so even if someone makes easy to digest leftists vids, they will be bombarded by the large presence of altlite kiddies strawmanning the fuck out of shit.
I think we first need to make vids attacking popular altright figures.
Camden Green
Jonathan Pie has hundreds of thousands of subscribers, he could be described as the left-wing version of PJW. He's a democratic socialist/ SocDem though. But he's a Corbynista so there's that. Don't lose hope.
Jacob Cooper
all of those people you listed are fucking asshat SJWs, we need a normal anti-SJW left wing guy if we're ever going to make any progress
Cooper Sullivan
"If you can't explain it simply you don't understand it well enough"~
Jacob Thompson
THIS
Daniel Butler
LOL YouTube purposely pushes conservatives views and channels off their platform since the Ad Apocalypse as well as delistings with shadowbans. The fact that leftists channels can't grain traction or views despite having the game rigged in their favour shows that the audience on the most visited website in the world doesn't care.
LOL everyone views SJW's and feminists as the left which they are correct because you all allowed that to happen. You all could of stopped it, reigned them in and told them to cut out the personal politics shit that's killing and divided the left voter base. Instead you let them freely act like morons because you wouldn't dare speak up against someone who shared the same politics as you. You chose the cowards way out. Deal with the aftermath of you're choices.
Jackson Rodriguez
FinnBol is really good, but his stuff isn't super easy to digest for most people who aren't looking for 30 minute videos on Marxist theory or the soviet union. The thing that makes alt-right youtubers so popular is how easy to digest their crap is since it's typically dumbed down and thy just regurgitate buzzwords and memespeak.
Adam Rogers
lurk moar Holla Forums
Jeremiah Mitchell
If all of those people are SJWs then the term officially has no meaning (but what else is new)
Jose Ortiz
See? This shit is why you will never win anyone over or back to voting for the left. The thread asks why there aren't more big YouTube left wingers, I provide an explanation to why the current situation is what is it and you're solution? "Just personally attack him! That'll win them over!" No dipshits, that didn't work during the election, you don't shame people into believing in lefty politics. Cut the shit out and take real action to those who have poisoned the leftist well.
Noah Hall
Do you think anyone listens to you? Fuck off moron. Your rhetorical tricks are old and busted.
Jacob Stewart
What the fuck are you rambling about? You got called Holla Forums because you think Holla Forums regulars are responsible or have any agency over what left leaning youtubers did, and then called every left of center youtuber an SJW as if that's even slightly accurate
Caleb Rogers
Didn't Finnish Bolshevik turn ancap, or am I thinking of another e-celeb with a generic name?
Nicholas Anderson
Holla Forums pls
Getting called out on being a dumbass on a Butanese Finger Painting forum is nowhere near equivalent to liberal smugness against the working class, or their smugness against literally anyone who disagrees with them in someway. We're not liberals, we never were.
Brandon Johnson
you're just presenting a false dichotomy. what are we supposed to do about the raging SJW feminists? murder them?
Samuel Martin
No see you don't understand. It's your fault if anybody has ever called SJWs the real left, and for their sins you have to lash yourself 100 times before making any public statement with a politics left of center
Owen Morgan
OP, Peter Coffin is probably the most popular left wing youtuber (hes a maoist i think), but he puts his videos in a digestible way for normies
Sebastian Russell
Why is the most succecful patreon for a soundcloud podcast
Why can't the right gain traction on Twitter
Don't say Jews Shills or Something Awful
Thomas Howard
what does this have to do with anything
Grayson Garcia
Chapo is a leftist political podcast for soundcloud that has a patreon that became more successful than any patreon for a youtube e-celeb regardless of clout and viewership.
I'm just wondering how that fits into your narrative.
Elijah Jackson
You don't have to explain every aspect of Marxist theory, just give 'em the top line thing that makes sense.
Boom. That's all you need to do.
Benjamin Rogers
Bloody'ell really? I always thought he was just some rather generic liberal although saying that i've never seen any of his videos
Aiden Reyes
Took the words from my fingers.
Owen Watson
Thanks asshole, I had a brief moment of peace where I didn't remember them
Ethan Reed
That sounds perfect
Carson Peterson
he's just a normie liberal not mention a massive fucking creep
Adrian Phillips
This, sadly. Even having subbed up to xexizy myself.
Aaron Hall
"user just pointed out personal attacks don't win people over to you're side…LETS CONTINUE PERSONAL ATTACKS." Way to prove my point.
Which I've told other lefties in person "You've gotta cut that shit out." Only to be ignored and answered with "Their just in fly over states who cares?" That attitude is self destructive.
Then don't call this board "leftypol." Liberals are leftists.
Not make them represent you openly unchallenged? Oh wait, that means you would have to disagree with someone who has the same politics as you do…which you can but you won't because you fear a smear campaign that will come with it.
Because it's crowdfunded? Wow what a simple answer. Actually working towards a solution.
"Why can't the right gain traction on Twitter"
A website owned and run by San Francisco lefties that shadow-ban, delist current trends to make sure content they want you to see, only leftist posters getting blue stamps which give their comments priority to be shown, then hire feminists and SJW's for their "Twitter safety partners" who can flag freely any content they disagree with? Are you honestly asking why the right can't make traction on Twitter when Twitter does everything physically possible to make sure that doesn't happen?
Never did, I see the beast and call it by its name…modern leftism that has been high jacked by identity politics and feminists, which needs to end. If you want you're "workers revolution" you have to win over the worker first correct? You can't do that when identity politics exist because identity politics is diversive by nature.
Jordan Perez
What's a matter, shouldn't you be watching your contrapoint videos, goy?
Logan Sanchez
I legitimately don't know what qualifies as simple. Youd be surprised how many people have no idea who William McKinley is.
Gabriel Jackson
lol are you guys still triggered over that vid?
Robert Kelly
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Jaxon Bell
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Henry Lewis
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Kayden Garcia
ahahahahahahaahHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Levi Brown
Wtf Silicon Valley is leftypol now
Liam Scott
Not an unreasonable point, but 'lefty'pol here really means "left of pol", similar to how "leftcommunism" was a critique of Bolshevism. At least it's now with all the ultras here.
Christopher Morgan
Thing is. Liberals were the left before Marx was even born. It's only later that communists tried inserting themselves into 'the left'. And they just ended up turning into liberals.
Charles Scott
shut the fuck up
Nolan Jenkins
Are you serious rn
Luis Scott
Eastern Marxist.
As far as gossip goes, he pretended to have a wife on the internet and/or lets his current wife get away with potential child abuse. He's another one of those SJWs who will eventually show up in the police pages implying there's any who won't
Also he's anti-GG so fuck him out of principle. inb4 gg sux y u care
You have to go back.
Just joking, you can stay. But seriously tho, please lurk more.
Lincoln Myers
Pretty sure the left as a concept did not even exist until socialism of some sort existed as well. Thanks for making me waste a reaction image of my wife, you dick.
Connor Jenkins
Step one: Drop the faggotry
Aiden Perez
No. It was a term for people who supported the french revolution.
Parker Kelly
It will never be the other way, guys.
Austin Johnson
You faggot loving niggercunts already have every mainstream news source, not to mention the fucking education system of the US. Now you want youtube? Fuck off.
Evan Wood
I can only speak for myself, but I am not someone who spents most of his freetime on youtube, letting others think for myself and form an opinion for me. It's for those sociopathic authoritarians, who are in desperate need of a leader, someone who tells them when to raise the arm.
Michael Perry
THIS! This shit right here!
Xavier Walker
Or maybe because your fucking social media presence looks like this
Colton Foster
You're a fucking retard. CNN and the daily show isn't leftism you drooling imbecile.
Nathan Foster
Eastern Marxist isn't an ancap he's a fucking neolib now lmao
Sebastian Reed
We want the means of production. If we have to take over youtube, the septic community and everything you hold dear, including your digital wife, then so be it. You could of course save both of our times and give it to us. But we both know that you won't do it out of spite, so we have to do it the hard way.
Wyatt Reed
Yes, American education is communist, we really believe you, we do
Joshua Long
Bat'ko i wanna point out your memes are great but people dont have the patience to click on a youtube link and wait for it load. It needs to be visible and totaly digestable as they scroll by. They're just not shareable enough
Aiden White
how do you justify being this stupid in real life
Hudson Thomas
Also i was considering making a massive playlist of every left youtubers video that i could put on to run whilst i slept to boost views, but i never got around to it.
Jonathan Ward
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Jayden Moore
Yeah you got us, Rupert Murdoch is a leftist, and American news media definitely doesn't support neoconservative agendas….fucking kill me
Xavier Hall
Fox News is one site, and it regularly attacks "racists" and "right-wingers".
Hating on it when shit like CNN, BBC, MSBC and practically every liberal new sites exist is nonsense.
Dylan Jenkins
DId I say Fox News? Where I live (Australia), Rupert Murdoch owns 70% of circulating newspapers. Don't you fucking dare deny that there is a right-wing and interventionist streak in corporate media. Read literally any book on the topic - Manufacturing Consent would be a good start.
……………………where do you think you're posting right now?
Sebastian Rivera
A forum where we bitch about right wing new sites when it's a fucking bleep compared to liberal new sites?
Come on, where are the mainstream prime screen TV that encourages people to kill niggers and jews?
Jaxson Edwards
lel, what is hegemonic struggle
Grayson Sanchez
you got it right.
James Evans
Not even this. it was the half of the jacobins that supported the most "progressive" (shedding more blood and destruction) measures. The other, more conservative (of pre-bourgeois feudalism) side was the right.
Blake Hall
this board is pre-school tier. you guys live in 1995 or something
Michael Ward
Liberals are identity-obsessed centrists, not "leftists." Stop getting your political definitions from Youtube and Holla Forums. If anything. You're a case study in why the left needs a bigger presence.
David Walker
Don't worry, at least we have le yung turkz. XD XD
Cooper Stewart
mfw exactly. I don't come often but this total meltdown seems fairly recent.
Daniel Davis
Holla Forumsyps have been going out of their way to false-flag and start shit as of recently
Juan Cook
You seem to refer to "leftists" as some sort of 1970's revolutionaries. These people don't exist anymore if you haven't noticed, and replacing the white working class with retarded third world slaves made sure they won't ever come back.
Well if Pewdiepie keeps fucking up it will basically become totally impossible to make money on YouTube (he already fucked up ad revenue for almost every channel) which will eventually cause all these reactionary fuckwads to go away.
Josiah Price
Most of those right-wingers actually cover the news and give their right wing takes on it. The reason why they gain new followers in my opinion is because this type of news coverage where you suddenly give random facts that "the mainstreem meteor wont talk about" has the 'red pill' effect on normalshits. It's very different from just presenting your entire ideology in some dry 20 minute video.
Left-wingers mostly produce historical videos, reasons why capitalism sucks, and responses to other e-celebs etc. None of them cover the news on a regular basis except maybe Jason Unruhe but he's a fat Zangief cosplaying nigger lover so nobody cares about him. Jimmy Dore is like the only leftist that does this but he's a SuccDem. The fact that TYTards call him 'crazy' and whatever is really telling how hopeless liberals are though.
I mean, this probably doesn't fully explain why leftist youtubers fall under the radar, but it seems like a primary reason to me.
Joshua Powell
I'll make it easier for you. Hillary and Arianna Huffington (of huffpo fame) are "former" republicans who barely shifted any of their beliefs. If your definition of "the left" encompasses them in any form, then you're pretty fucking dumb
Gavin Walker
If you want to know why is because you consider centrists and anyone right to mao to be a rightwing reactionary aka "disagrees with me" and not many real far righ and many of them are actually left wing but you don't know because you wont fucking watch anything that isn't fucking communism.
How about leaving your bubble for more than 5 mins to smell anything that isn't your own farts to know what the position of other than commies are.
Nathan Harris
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Nolan Hernandez
Strange. It talks like a burger but has the English proficiency of someone with fifth grade language skills (bad even for lardistan)
Jeremiah Hernandez
But tbh I kind of forgive them, I find it really hard NOT to be sectarian and most intersectional people are liberal redditor fuckfaces.
Caleb Foster
And you are just plain a stupid nigger that doesn't have any arguments so you resort to be mad and point to something petty.
I would say too back to your echochamber but is I that had to come to your circlejerk so you would get criticized.
No is because your ideology is not popular because you never leave this fucking place and let leftism be taken over by fucking idiots
Levi Harris
It comes down to solutions, I guess. There's no easy, one-size-fits-all solution to the problem of 21st century capitalism, and so you have sectarian disputes over theory and praxis. With reactionaries there's no theory nor intellectual disputes; it's as simple as "kill all blacks/jews/gays/women/etc."
Jaxon Smith
It didn't encompass them back when I was a leftist, now I just don't give a fuck, since actual leftists actually vote for these people.
Isaac Robinson
The illiterate seem to proliferate on both sides. but i'll concede that right-wingers are the niggers of the world, the best concept (and linguistic killshot) they ever came up with was "cuck". Way to render your entire library obsolete. Maybe someone should make Debord threads on Holla Forums…
Austin Young
lol
Hunter Peterson
This Borat sequel looks awful
Henry Wright
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Jonathan Collins
inb4 MUH LEDDIT SPACING :—DDDD it's a good method for spacing out seperate topics inb4 v&'d because some of you really, REALLY don't like other opinions (I'm looking at you, Board Owner)
I would just say that leftism is a generally unpopular in the media sphere, but it's also because of those REKT FEMINARZTS KOLLAB and other cringefests even I fucking despise even though I consider myself far-right of center, I still hate those videos with a burning passion
Another reason is generally because of intellectual channels such as PragerU which give an alternative opinion to much of what the Mainstream Media produces and publishes for the masses to consume.
As with what states, the left and dare I say, alt-left is more concerned with IdPol than just about anything else. even though history proves is that when you strip a person of identity, they become unproductive and aggresive (see : the current "alt-right" and "alt-lite" movements)
Another theory is that the right has been using social media for what it's been for many years before leftists, essentially giving them a head-start in the war for taking over social media.
To tie in with point above, take the #CNNBlackmail controversy, where CNN "Reserved the right to publish" the identity of a shitposter from reddit, and that shitposter may have not been the original source of the photo (It was claimed on 4pol that a mexican had made the original gif, however it being 4pol the poster in question had absolutely no evidence to back this up). Not to mention that CNN has a liberal bias, and has been caught on multiple occasions either partially fabricating or completely lying about news stories (see .webm)
Again to tie in with above, see the streisand effect and how censorship campaigns against the right have blown up in popularity instead of the expected result, which is to quell and snuff the movement out of relevancy.
I hate to say it Holla Forums but every time someone attempts to deplatform the right, it simply grows in size and gets exponentially stronger.
Elijah Torres
I'm not even a burger
Ethan Phillips
People aren't interested in dry knowledge spewed by an overeducated loser in front of a camera.
If you want a leftist YouTuber to get big he's got to do something different. Maybe a comedian or a guy who vandalizes mansions idk
Chase Williams
I've just realized PJW shares a similar name with Paul Joseph Goebbels.
Oliver Sanders
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Chase Perez
i wish
Carson Morgan
damn bro you sound so fucking smart, i wish i could even comprehend how smart you probably are, so sick.
Angel Taylor
holy shit what a mess
Grayson Peterson
Not an argument. You have to make multiple responses readable instead of a wall of text that's confusing. Fuck convenience right?
Twitter's main HQ. Address: 1355 Market St #900, San Francisco, CA 94103, USA.
But pol is the extreme of right wing politics and nationalism. Wouldn't leftypol benefit from not being the exact opposite by not being extreme left wing politics and communism?
Lucas Brown
Just because they're "left wing" because of inconsequential stuff like homosexuals and abortion doesn't mean they aren't defenders of the capitalist system.
Leo Cooper
for decades I've seen "antifascists" label any form of conspirationism as fascist propaganda or disguised antisemitism. here's your answer.
Tyler Baker
Stop reddit spacing
Leo Barnes
Holy fuck I hate internet pedants. This board is anti-capitalist. End of discussion. When this board says "leftist" we mean fellow anti-capitalists and we have almost no other criteria. If you want to spend all day talking about what leftist "actually" means then be my guest and replace leftist with anti-capitalist instead. There, I've saved you a lot of time and saved everyone else from having to deal with more of your weird ranty shit
Colton Sanders
Literally the absolute opposite of leftists. Fucking absolute retard.
Brayden Morales
me neither
Lincoln Sanders
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Juan Long
Comrade, we are not simply just ¨anti-capitalists¨, we are post-capitalists!
Dylan Thompson
Of course, I didn't realize, liberals are marxists and marxists are capitalists and infiltrated Silicon Valley
How could I forget the great communist corporation
You really are a stupid cock sucker
Brayden Walker
Varg
Jaxon Johnson
Leftist YouTube is shit, but leftist Podcasts are pretty cool. Chapo is just okay, tho.
Dominic Butler
reactionary videos are easy to pump out because they're formulaic&by the numbers.They pretended they were "anti-establishment" for a while but now it's just basic Fox News grandpa talking points.
Ayden Turner
Please fuck off, Holla Forums, you fool no one with the hammer-and-sickle Nazi flags. youtu.be/VUbxVfSqtt8
Noah Smith
Really user I'm in southern Georgia and I can get people to understand me maybe your just an asshole…