Transgendered being labeled mentally ill, over a social construct

I'm a little bit irritated with transgender people, and cisgender people who use phrases like "to be a man," because gender is just a social construct.

Most people having these kinds of discussions know that gender is a social construct, we've all heard it before, but as it is such, I don't really give a shit about gender at all. When I look at transgender people undergoing transition and getting all this flak for it, I think to myself, damn, they are really putting themselves through hell over something that doesn't matter.

Likewise, when transgender people aren't undergoing transition, and are miserable about their gender, I always think, why don't they defy gender completely? Sometimes they do defy gender completely, and these are the people who exercise true liberty, people willing to sack up and stand by the personal choices they've made, taking responsibility for who they are as a person.

Maybe it's really about sex change rather than being gender-queer, and gender is just a line of defense for sex-changers to hide behind? I know they try to defend themselves by calling it a mental illness. Meanwhile, gay people don't take very kindly to having their sexuality labeled as a mental illness, gay people might become completely outraged if you try to say that their sexual identity is a mental illness.

Does this fit into leftist ideology anywhere, the idea of abolishing ideas of race, gender, etc.? Do you guys have any personal ideas on this?

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I don't get your point, everything is a social construct because language cannot be anything else than social.


Yeah man, if people are unhappy about something, why don't they just stop caring about the thing they're unhappy about so they can be happy?

okay right

gender is the bla bla bla built on sexual differences *and* social construct

Because sex and gender aren't actually separate like liberal progressives claim.

No, go economic or go home.

the differences in outcome I can imagine you whining about are mostly due to biology, especially neonatal testosterone
read the citations in the google memo, also
this is a brocialist board
go the fuck back to reddit

they are. gender is a social construct only partially built on sexual differences that are real.

fair


I'll try to explain better. I'm not outraged and transgender people.

It's just, looking at the situation, it seems to be some kind of intellectual fuck-up. These people hate themselves and society, despite what progressives are happy to believe, is treating them very poorly. It's a sad situation. The current transgender ideology is pushed on children and they're given drugs.

look man, i's not my fault you don't know what gender is, and confuse it with sex. I've never used reddit, and don't plan to.

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nobody cares, get a personal blog

this conversation is starting to seem a little bit above leftypol. nobody replying here has demonstrated an ability to understand these subjects. you're the first who hasn't demonstrated a lack of ability, but it wouldn't be a surprise.

how did I see antifa and not think that they would be as dumb as the alt-right. you guys just read about an ideology or two and then decided you don't need to learn anything else.

i'm not a smashie, this is just my angry posting flag

But what if the opposite were true?

yeah what if


right. it probably takes a specific kind of personality to go out and do that.

cool blog op, subscribed

people would be more difficult to subjugate if they didn't 'believe' in meemees like gender and race. also if they were all more educated.

of course nobody can make you give a shit about the important questions, though

Lol at newfags here. Acting like we don't have consistent posting of people with a similar viewpoint to OP.
It's obviously about the sexchange and changing gender roles/gendernorms. Those are the only actual differences I can think of. And the idea of abolishing race, gender, etc… I suppose you could just invoke stirner and call it a day.

but do it fit into leftist ideology?

Are you really not aware of who Stirner is?

listened to an hour long talk that mostly focused on his personal philosophy. he was a lefty?

he transcends the left/right dichotomy

Yeah, he thought an egoist's best interest was to make a community with other egoists. I forgot the fancy phrase for it. Union of Egoists?

Some "egoists" decide it is in their best interest to be Capitalists, which is probably what this guy will sperg about later.
They aren't really egoists

You can have ANY position on those issues and still be a leftist as long as your pro-worker. Also gender is NOT a social construct because feelings such as femininity and masculinity come from sex hormones such as estrogen or testosterone. Gender expression though IS a social construct.

yeah dude maybe when there were two genders. there's 3,500,000 genders now

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They are not people.