Socialism and media

How will the socialist economy reward those who work in the entertainment industry and media. Take animation for example, It requires a lot of time and work to animate a movie or TV series. I don't believe this alone can be maintained by people animating in their spear time after work.
This goes the same for movies and other forms of quality media. It takes months on set, and hours of work put in from actors and set crew alike in order to produce quality content. The whole time, these people are only supported by the fact that this is a job for them.

How will this be done under socialism? My opinion is that their would be more time mixed with special grants given by society to talented individuals and crews to produce.
But how will the huge responsibility of the entertainment industry be planned for in socialism?

Bump

In all seriousness, while I'm not certain on how things like high-budget movies would be done (unless we're talking about marxist-leninist "socialism") but shortly after a revolution it would already be possible to enable more local and amateur culture by seizing theaters, art galleries and so on. For example, I'd expect low-budget (there'd be no money, but I mean simplistic in decor and outfits) theater for smaller audiences to flourish.

It won't. There will be state (community) arts and the rest is just indie projects which will likely produce very short and very rare pieces. Mass animation will for the most part cease, as will most of everything that requires entire teams to work under time lines and special snowflake visions.

Seems pretty simple to me tbh. Just make it crowdfunding and as an added bonus all the finances of the legal entity are public so you can see if they are fucking you over.

Why not?

Also there is litterally nothing wrong with moving away from multi-billion dollar blockbuster bullshit towards a more small scale production. I for one will not miss call of duty, marvel movies or naturo season 305. I will be looking forward to more Clerks-esque movies.

Why does your vision of socialism look exactly like capitalism?

I agree somewhat
Another idea I had was to make an almost "like system" for indie developers. Once their work is scene, and "liked" enough by a regional populace they could be excused from work and enough means of subsistence free of charge. This means of substance would translate to the standard of living of a "middle class" citizen in their surrounding area in order to not spur envy from workers, and not to disincentive them from pursuing entertainment.
With this free "Artists allowance" provided by their community, they could peruse their given niche (Movies, animu, cartoons) entirely.

*and given enough mean of subsistence free of charge

In what way?

Liking is easily abused. If people like it, they can just donate half an hour each month.

In socialism everyone is paid the same hourly wage: One hour of work for one hour of work.
If we need to throw money at some guy for him to make music I dont want him to make music.

minus deductions yadayada

I feel with the right policing the liking procedure.
For instance

I don't necessarily see an impetus ether as to why some one would go out of their way to make a like bot for their profile. I see why some YouTubers can be corrupted by money in pursuit of YouTube millions, but as I said before, the free ride you would get would be anchored to what "middle earners" would look like in your given community.

*the liking procedure would be effective
Man I'm off it today

took off fug bosting flag btw

Thats not what I meant though.
"Liking" is easily abused because its an action without consequence. It takes no commitment. People who are better at social media could get more likes just by asking better.
But you are committing resources, your hours, to someone. If you like an artist a lot to the point that you want to support him with resources, you should commit resources to them, not just hit like and fill in a captcha. Just like how you commit your hours worked to get strawberry poptards, so too you commit your hours worked to art. Other people may not like strawberry poptards or the art you like, so why do they have to pay up for it?
Theres an argument to be made for doing it your way too, but im just pointing it out.

I already explained, in socialism you cant get paid more or less per hour than another person.

how jewish are you, in all seriousness? we don't need major media anymore. have you ever been on the internet?

I feel we are misunderstanding each other

When I speak of "Liking" I don't mean the same thing as an Instagram profile. People from your community and likely around the world would like you according to how they see your work. Nothing more nothing less.

Knowledge of this should make the process all the more serious. Once you have your own bank account, you tend to be more frugal.

This will be difficult if the artist is one the other side of the planet. And I might have no skill to offer them.

They don't. If the mass of society does not feel that a given endeavor is worth them supporting, their would be no direction of resources to it. This does not mean that your niche group could not pursue it in their mean time with what they earn. This entire Idea I had was because I believe that most models of socialism do not put enough into leisure time and media, this will be a way to fill the media whole left after the abolition of capitalism until production gets easy enough we could have people who just do this all the time. I feel it is an important for us to take this into account, so a public that has been given all this media to ingest under capitalism don't go in shock and we have an eastern block repeat.

There will still be a gap depending on how much a person labors, creating a gap in material reward.


check'd
still, a large amount of the world media is "mainstream"

You can offer them labour vouchers, which alleviate him or her from needing to do work that is directly socially usefull.

You cant labour more than 24 hours a day, and if you claim that without good reason people will investigate and put fines.

Why not just use this system instead of basically reinventing exchange

You got me there. However some jobs might be more time consuming then others.

Its not exchange. And because the socialist economy already works with labour vouchers. Read Marx.

You are paying this artist for service, It seems an awful lot like exchange to me

shit
saged my own thread

How the fuck did I just post the same picture twice?

It isnt though. Is paying for dinner an exchange because your friend will maybe help you move a month later? Nothing is exchanged. Its a donation. You dont receive anything, you just give him stuff. An exchange means that you give x to someone and they give something else back to you in return. A donation to an artist isnt that, its not a commision where you pay him for a service. You give him money to do whatever.

Interesting
I understand where your coming from

this is intentionally opaque to avoid the obvious fault in logic. you are giving the artist money because you want them to be incentivized to continue doing art. you're not paying someone for a specific job, but you're using money to say "keep it up", which is a form of exchange because you're doing it with the hopes they keep making art. Otherwise, you'd be pissed if you donated to an artist who then said "thanks for the cash, I'm going to retire from art forever". You certainly wouldn't continue to give them money because there's nothing to incentivize anymore.

Entertainment will be produced by those who want to produce entertainment. This will mean higher-quality entertainment in general will be produced, but possibly less frequently. Think of AAA video game developers who have to shit out a product in 2-3 years. Then consider people who actually love what they are doing and want to create the best game they can, they might take 5 years or even more.

Do you have any idea how much fucking media there is already? If everyone just stopped making new movies, tv, videogames, music, etc, even if you spent your whole life on just one of those you wouldn't come close to experiencing all of it.