Transgender normalisation

What's the stance on correct pronouns and Transgender normalization on this board? I'd like to know what real anti-capitalists think.

Being kind is a good thing.

Being gay is a good thing.

Give me your pronouns and I will call you them.

I don't really care tbh. Class struggle is more important than trans people who make up less than 1 percent of the population.

It recently occurred to me that this is almost nothing new and not worthy of our attention. Remember goth and new wave aesthetics in the '70s and '80s?

Just don't be a douchebag and treat them like everyone else. Who gives a crap about pronouns.

Get my pronouns wrong and I will put you through a motherfucking wall, sinner.

We need to embrace transgenderism if our cause is to survive. Trans people are our future so I would recommend learning and memorizing proper pronouns lest we offend anyone.

Who gives a fuck, if I like you I will call you "hey" or by your name, if I dont like you I will say "that cunt".

Stop caring and move on and you'll see less "fashionable trannies" I bet. Same with gays. Very few people are actually trans.
I bet bicurious and regular crossdressers will always be more common than you'd think though.

Attack a comrade and I will skin you alive, reactionairy.

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just fuck off

who the flying fuck cares

Imagine if English was a sane language and had no gendered pronouns.

The correct position is the abolition of gender

Dutch has gendered pronouns but we don't have this issue.

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Honestly?

When I was a kid, the kids around me were super worried about faggots. No one gave a fuck about trans people - not because they didn't know about them, but because "a woman trapped inside of a man" is ultimately more romantic and easier for a lot of people to sympathize with than just a boy who might be peeking at you in the locker room. Gays? Gross men who fuck men and maybe you! Bisexuals? Filthy cheaters.

To me, it always seemed normal, or at least accepted, and it was my belief that anyone ought to be able to swap sexes as best as surgically possible if it was really what they wanted. Of course, this was before I was taking dysphoria into account, so the question of whether such procedures should be paid out of pocket or not wasn't really something I was concerned about.

The idea of "normalizing" it is alien to me. In the years that it's been declared "the new frontier" or whatever, it just seems like all these massive, gigantic fucking retards came out of whatever hole they were living in that didn't have so much as access to Jerry Springer, and were completely shocked that trans people even existed. I was raised in the south - kids said lots of racist shit, lots of homophobic shit… teachers, too… but it was still amazing seeing all these people come out treating this like it was some sort of humorous novelty or appalling new moral threat and the media itself barely being able to grasp trans issues in any competent way. It was like watching toddlers being taught how to play with blocks by an overzealous teacher who somehow still managed to get blocks wrong.

And then, there was the retarded-ass "clash" between gays and transgender people - stoked with what were often outright lies. It was not a thing, and then all these trans people thought ze gays hated them, and then the gays thought they were supposed to hate trannies even if they didn't before, and so on and so on. And of course Catelyn Jenner being totally beloved by liberal idpol idiots and then proceeding to throw gays under the car (driven by a separate, but no less shitty Catelyn Jenner) didn't help matters either.

So it is normal, I don't give a fuck, and the bathroom laws are retarded but so is the responding push for anyone who so much as identifies as a gender to be able to use that gender's bathroom. First off, most of the time up 'til now nothing was really stopping them anyway. Secondly, I don't give a shit about "passing," but the idea that they're all just transgender and someone who keeps it internal should be seen as exactly equivalent to someone on hormones or undergoing surgery… it's kind of forgetting the line between sex and gender, which is actually extremely relevant. It seems dishonest to just ignore it.

Fuck this bullshit. Social decadence is real and I refuse to be associated with people like this nor with people who refuse to acknowledge the downsides of decadence.

Fuck off, bigot.

While ir's true that there are 52 genders, I think the gender neutral term "comrade" could be used until we get better acquainted with an individual's proper pronouns. Kappa.

There are a lot of people who hold their gender Identity in very high regard. We should embrace these folks and treat them with the dignity that they deserve.

Agreed, comrade

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basic respect for other people shouldn't be political, I will call a reverend a reverend, even if I think that his profession is bullshit

These people are about as useful and relevant as a cum filled sock. They're of no use to us and will in all seriousness most likely never cross our path in any meaningful way.

just like i don't act like i hear the voices in a schizophrenic persons mind, i don't treat people with gender dysphoria like they're the opposite sex

That's gonna be pretty inconvenient when one's born male but has tits and a pussy now.

pick one.

What did he mean by this?

Well try getting neo-vagina surgery or whatever the fuck they call it and tell me if you still have a dick afterwards. If you want to go through all that effort to have something that looks like a cunt and you just want to call it a "gaping unnatural hole" or whatever, I guess that's your prerogative at that point.

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Some people are just born as the wrong gender/species. Thankfully, advances in modern medical science is able to correct nature's mistakes via reconstructive surgery. Our goal should be to educate people early on and inform them of their options. That way they can make the transition before they become fully grown into the wrong body.

Transsexuality probably exists, genders don't. They're fetishes to be paraded in public, made from the ground up to enable narcissistic or delusional lifestylism.

i didnt say your penis makes you a man, your genes do.

You want to stop with the sliding already?

Abolish gender roles altogether.
Make transitioning freely accessible to those who need it.
Mercilessly suppress discrimination against all sexual minorities.

Here, problem solved. It's not rocket science.

gender isnt real and you can't be born a different species unless bestiality is involved. save the DNC talking points for reddit

You can make have society function in such a way that people can operate in whatever role they wish, but you can't actually stop people from wanting to operate in a "gender role"
How? And define "need it"?
Socialism already removes the capitalist function that allows people to enforce their viewpoint or interests. If someone doesn't want to interact with or has negative opinions of transgenders, thats their problem.

he/she/they

all the others can fuck off

Also to add, if the gender equality paradox is to be believed then men and woman may on some level generally be drawn to cetain carrer choices and "roles" naturally

Not saying were not material btw, just that some sex based structures cause us to be drawn to certain things

Over represented, to the expense of normal non-mentally ill citizens. The gay lobby is the worst catastrophy to western civilization since ww2.
donut b mad.

LGBT wouldn't exist under my version of communism.

Actually, you said:

pick one."

I was suggesting that someone can be born male and, effectively, have a pussy of some kind. They don't have a fully functional pussy, but they effectively have an artificial pussy.

Basically, if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, etc. Your initial post I replied to suggested that they were delusional, like schizophrenics, so you wouldn't address them by their "after" gender. But if someone actually has a sex-change operation and lives that way, in a lot of cases you'd come off as being more delusional because in all respects but genes. And biologists themselves seem excited about the slowly emerging research that's accumulating on the biological causes of transsexuality, so it's really not as though we're looking at something that exists outside the realm of biologically determined sex - we can call it a "glitch," but that doesn't really mean anything or determine how we address it.

Ups!

they appeared to be and live as the sex they identified as.

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It's easiest to just go with it, fighting against it and fighting for it are equally taxing and I'd prefer to save my energy for the revolution. So I stand with the trans community mostly because I don't care what anyone does with their life so long as it doesn't endorse right wing ideology.

Trannies are a fad. All of these dick choppers are going to be really regretful once all this passes.

Hitler was an anti capitalist and he would have gassed the trannies.

"OH BABY, THE WAY YOU TALK ABOUT FULL COMMUNISM HAS ME SO HOT, I CAN'T KEEP MY HANDS OFF YOU."
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"IS THAT THE PEOPLE'S STICK? I'D MUCH RATHER BE BEAT WITH THAT THAN THE TSAR'S STICK."

Which means being anti tranny is the same as being pro Hitler.