If socialism won't do anything about "natural" hierarchy, then I don't fucking want it

If socialism won't do anything about "natural" hierarchy, then I don't fucking want it.


If socialism ever happened everyone like me would retreat into thier basements and be found a year later dead and covered with cheeto dust

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I don't see any difference from what'll happen to people like you under the current system.

why don't you like human nature user?

Because naturally I'm a fucking loser.

There's no class society, what more do you want?

good feels picture thanks

grow up

A classless society isn't necessarily an assless society.
-Marx, Capital volume VII

it's not the job of any social system to make you stop being a faggot

have you thought of turning that frown upside down?

I'm 23, I have a job and a car and my whole family lives paycheck to paycheck. How about YOU grow up

Destroying commodity relations in society will have the inevitable effect of erasing the kind of showmanship you are talking about, OP. The problem with these men is that they have commodified their sexual relations with women as a form of social capital gains. If you destroy the system which values commodities over people, which is the result of capitalism's endless need for expansion, then you will destroy the perception that the most = the best. Thus, men and women will only engage in sexual activities for social benefit rather than status.

Alternatively, you could stop being a beta and get some poon yourself so you can stop judging others and lead by example.

there is more to life than pussy, i would expect an adult to understand this by now.

There isn't much more to life than having intimate relationships and people you can love and trust, doing fun things with those people etc.

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you can achieve all this without having "a new pussy to fuck every week".

it's always sex with you people

when i'm in charge anyone who so much as talks about sex will be shot. i'm taking a hard line on the most boring topic of conversation there is.


they're called friends.
girlfriends have a negative influence on actual friendships.

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Would the "Chad" even continue to exist in communist society

This stereotype-turned-archetype is a result of human commodification is it not

Why Haven't I after all these years? Guess I'm just not deserving

true but there will be other non chad type alphas

Sex is overrated mate. Most people smell, look funny, or are outright boring.

Romance > Friendship > Sex

This guy gets it. People on here still seem to view themselves and others as commodities despite pretending otherwise. I can't say I blame them considering that that's how we've been socialized.

Instead of Chads and Stacies we'll have Karls and Rosas.

Tbh a better discussion would be the development of human stereotypes and caricatures into living, desirable archetypes

At what point did anyone decide they want to look like single faceted mockeries of the human being

When did people have to start being sold their personalities

this is just an inferiority complex at this point

Well, it's profitable. And I don't care to really take part in that but consequently I sometimes feel like I have no particular identity. People like groups because it's comforting.

And nothing of value would be lost.

There's no such thing as natural hierarchy. Yes there are natural differences, but think about which ones are the main responsible for shaping your social status and you'll realise that they all relate to the mutable cultural values, which in turn relates to the material conditions of a society.

If you have a militarist society, that depends on territorial expansion and conquest, you need a militaristic people with strong men and a warriorlike tradition, and weak faggots like you and me are the bottom of the barrel. But eventually these people would settle, develop cultural institutions, dedicate themselves to trade, art and science and other fag shit, and you have a whole different social norm arising from it. A new type of person becomes the ideal, while the brute who loves combat is just the low-class scum.

Modern capitalism has the worst of all worlds combined. It's utterly militaristic because it needs constant wars, it's utterly competitive, because the job market itself is designed to make you constantly try to outdo each other (and don't you love being a loser in those job interviews?), it has no place for social ties and communities that don't serve an utilitarian purpose, it turns all social interactions into a battle for social distinction, etc. Everything becomes a constant competition, a constant battle for people to prove they're better than others, and we're already socialized into this as soon as we step into our first classroom. There's always a thousand different bullshit standards and norms you have to attend. That accentuates the divide between losers and successful people, and the latter gain access to a lot more in life.

So we may never have complete egalitarianism, but the absurd discrepancies in quality of life and happiness we have today is a result of our economic system.

Why is that fag making duckfaces like a female whore?

he think he cute

pls don't bully me i'm dead inside

thanks user

That is very promising, what are some real life examples that did not accompany forced relations due to economical/life survival?

Think of all the well animated hentai you will be able to fap to and Cheetos made of the highest quality corn puffs and cheese dust. Video games not made for casuals and a basement free of mold.

and you never will be with that attitude, no one will ever love and leftism will be better off without fucks like you tearing us down.

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Kill yourself faggot

have you ever thought there is more to life than just getting laid? maybe your life is pointless and unfulfilling in general and 'not getting laid' is a reified larger than life fetish that has come to represent everything you hate about yourself.

Kill yourself, cultural capitalists.

Thank god, anti-social consumerist woman hater neckbeards are completely useless.

t. Guy who gets laid on the regular

But seriously sex might not be everything but at least it's a chance to lose yourself so you don't have to think the bad thoughts anymore

Fuck all genetically depressive people should have been sterilised

what exactly is your solution broski? you incels who blame women for being undesirable have unrealistic views on sex, relationships and women in general so you get bullied.

is Holla Forums the IRL lain?

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That applies to leftypol too?


Then become a fucking alpha you weak pussy

What difference would it make? You've been bullying them since you were a kid anyways. Some people are just destined to be losers from the womb, and society just reinforces it. There's no fairness in life but at least for women 90% of them can find companionship without that much effort, men who get off to a bad start in our hyper competitive sexual matriarchy might as well just give up. Is it women's fault they're not into people with low social status? Not really, but it's not men's fault for being low status either.

Please end yourself if you think things people can really change are the primary obstacles to happiness.

Start by handling social relations with a dialectical, leftist perspective and acknowledge that alienation and consumerism have distorted human relationships instead of spouting social darwinist rethoric about "just pull yourself together, you're there because you want to be" and similarly retarded libertarian-style platitudes.

I'm shocked by how many leftists don't realize how much they sound like fascist social darwinists when they talk about human relationships.

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I've read that in the DPRK, sexuality is very much downplayed, and seen as merely another sign of the decadent west. Maybe you should be using a Juche flag, huh?

if you ain't got the ABILITY then you don't get the NEED sorry

literally the same logic of drug addicts and compulsive gamblers. why not face reality and the political nature of one's alienation instead?

thats what this entire thread has tried to express. We've said it many times over that this glorification of sex is a symptom of capitalism and that if you understood any of what i previously said, i doubt youd have this problem.

Okay I faced it, I'm a commie, now what? Not like anything is gonna change from me understanding that is it? I still have to live in the same shitty world as everyone else. Not like by being class concious I rise above it. I still want my little animal pleasures to try to avoid suicide.

He has a pool and you don't have a pool

theres no such thing as natural hierarchy lol

Unfortunately there is no such thing as a economic system that will make you stop being a beta faggot.

This is your brain on naive egalitarianism.

And? Believe it or not economic shit isn't my greatest priority. If anything having a job gets my mind off how worthless of a person I am and I can pretend I'm worth a shit to society (lmao).

A job really makes the days pass quick and blend together. Started working this job at 18, I blink and I'm 23 and literally nothing has changed since then. My attempts to find friends and gfs have gone awry and I've given up totally

Define your terms. They sound terribly far-reaching. I would say any libertarian communist society in the pat other than Hungary had favourable social relations independent of survivalist conceptions. Orwell went to great lengths to describe the Catalan sense of harmony and equality between people. They were experiencing a revolution, so one can't say all the conditions were peaceful, but it would be silly to limit the internal harmony of the society by its external war conditions as, prior to Franco's attack, they had a pretty stable thing going.

Maybe the reason you don't get laid is you make broad decisions on human beings lives before even meeting them and come off like a pretentious fucktard to others. That could be a problem.

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