So, comrades, we got Doug Lain answering some of our questions HE THOUGHT were answer-worthy… Let's make it clear: some questions posed to him were far behind his comfort zone (e.g.: "why do you make kids, if you know very well that global warming will kill them rather mercilessly…')
That's one thing, and let's be honest here: he basically avoided these hurty-feely answers. But look at these much more serious issues! Doug basically stabbed at Jodi Dean. He said that Jodi is basically = #Resistance (whatever that means) and she abandoned here previous communist politics for that.
Well, muh comrades, it's not just that I don't agree, I think that Doug is talking out of his ass when it comes to this issue (and this is not the only one!) I already contacted Jodi (on twitter) about this ordeal, and she basically said that she'd participate in such a debate if she'd had the time.
Now it is up to you all stupid fags on twitter: are you prepared to spam Doug & Jodi t have this debate or not?
You seem annoying and if I were Doug I'd do my best to ignore you
Charles Gutierrez
If there are twitter personalities (xexizy, bat'ko (the fag'tko, etc.) here I'd really appreciate if they'd tweet at both of them.
Colton Davis
I seem like someone who knows what I'm talking about, tbh, as opposed to Doug who is basically a fanboy of some aspects of the 21th century communist project.
Nevertheless, even if you don't agree with my assessment, why would you oppose a good & tasty commie debate, you sectarian piece of shit?
Andrew Lee
If I were Doug I'd punch him right in his stupid face.
Jayden Harris
Nah you come across like a snob internet know-it-all
Dominic Smith
So let's get a rundown here: Doug Lain basically calls Jodi Dean a liberal in his vidya. Your answer? K, let's give it a pass…
LOL, are you deaf? It is, first of all, an achievement for leftypol to have posed a question to Doug having to do with a commie theoriest, Jodi.
It doesn't matter if you agree or not with Jodi, what matters is that Doug addressed Jodi due to US! Therefore we should take up this debate that is currently in its miniature form and push it on them. As you can see from Jodi is ready. Is Doug too?
Elijah Young
Doesn't he?
Xavier Edwards
Consider this, cretin comrade, what if I actually know what I'm talking about, as opposed to Doug?!
Jaxson Brown
No, no, the person with the publishing company and the youtube channel is always right! Praise [material circumstances]!
Sebastian Cox
Nobody's going to consider that because you're a fucking twit. You had your chance, you fucked it right up ~cocksucking faggot who eats shit and pees a gross milky green brine~ bro.
Oliver Perez
uhm, k?
Oliver Williams
Redpill me on Jodi Dean
Joseph Reed
Like Roger Dean, but less talented.
Benjamin Barnes
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Brayden Gutierrez
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Caleb Lee
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Chase Howard
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William Nguyen
Woke af imho tbqh familam
Brayden Richardson
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Blake Ward
cont.
then tweet at her & @ Doug!
Grayson Perry
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Gabriel Flores
You're a fat, faggoty fucktard Why don't you do it yourself?
Julian Scott
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Mason Miller
Is there an uncut full-length version somewhere ? >tfw i missed a lecture of her when I was visiting Berlin this summer
Brayden Anderson
Because having a debate between 2 youtube/theory "celebs" pushed by Holla Forums is objectively in our interest? I mean… How retarded do you have to be not to realize this?!
denk u for understanding my point. plz tweet at both of them!
Colton Jones
Firefox → youtube download extension
sudo apt-get install kdenlive
>>>/gnussr/
Adrian Green
Ok, I didn't realized it was the first video due to the misleading thumbnail. My apologies, dear Lenin hat spammer.
I was talking to my mom on the phone for a while and underestimated how spread out the city is
Kevin Ward
/dump
Angel Diaz
Obscurantist pomo garbage. There is 1 (o n e) guy on Holla Forums who has been shilling her for years. He is in this thread right now. He has posted the same webms dozens of times. He has also shilled for two books by her, both times he actually got responses dealing with the book in question in detail (spoiler alert: the books are shit), and each time his response to the "haters" was So, remember, if you find some basic flaw in the logic of an argument that must mean you are a nuclear physics guy and capitalist and certainly not a real prole, as everybody knows, real proles are stupid. And if you have some basic familiarity with an anarchist or liberal or conservative writer misrepresented by Dean, that must mean you are an anarchist/liberal etc.
James Flores
This is enough for anyone who's not a Skeptical Rational sperg to ignore you but let's hear it: your understanding of and expert takedown of Jodi Dean.
Wyatt Morgan
I'm a postmodernist. Dean is not a postmodernist. Dean is a dinosaur. Shut up.
Liam Jones
Gross.
Anthony Moore
Man, I can't wait, I simply love Jodi Dean, she's revolutionary! #Resist #ImWithHer
Easton Diaz
This is the first I've heard Jodi Dean speak, so I'm just gonna reply to the vids ITT with my critique and a summary of the points. Part 1/2
In a nutshell: the left is letting the perfect be the enemy of the good and hoping for perfect circumstances instead of just going for it. I agree pretty much.
I'm disappointed that she didn't properly contextualize Google's data mining. It's not some new shit. It's still a capitalist leeching surplus value. She should be recognizing that social media and such generating this information is a form of labor, which is being exploited and compensated only with the functionality of the service (not even close to a fair trade given the value of the mined information)
This is a really fucking stupid argument and I'm frankly embarrassed for her. Basically the same point as in the first video, just centering around a different part of politics.
Shameful lack of theory on this point. Ignores the fact that the state gets its power by mutual benefit with the people who have resources, and if it turns against them its power starts to crumble. For the proles to get the state on our side we'd need to have the resources to back it, at which point the mission of redistribution has already been accomplished.
The finance sector are just a bunch of snake oil salesmen. They're what spooked rich people do to try to safeguard their money. The enemy is profit and the cycle of capital. This is some Jimmy Dore level analysis.
W E W Parties have such a good track record compared to other types of organization that she fucking ignores Our parties you mean, you fucking dolt. How about unions? They didn't betray us, they were crushed.
The space race was pure dickwavery. If this isn't obvious you're a fucking moron. Space technology has a long way to go. The ISS is already doing a lot on this front, but the notion that there's some bright space future is pure ideology based on Cold War propaganda.
Holy fuck. Awesome job not addressing the concerns. She was talking a big game in the other clips about learning from the past so we don't repeat the mistakes but here she's putting Just Do It above any of that. THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF THE AMERICAN LEFT
Wyatt Flores
Part 2/2
Why Communist Parties are the Solution
So why's she advocating for a state? :^) How is it possible to be this wrong?
I'm starting to get mad at this level of stupidity tbh. Not only is the first statement wrong (capitalism is not omnipotent and still in the process of expanding its influence), but of all the things influenced by capitalism the state apparatus is the one of the MOST controlled by capitalism.
Fucking what. The need to shake up the ideology of capitalism is an argument for leftist agitation/education in general, not specifically for a party.
I have a hard time having any respect for a speaker who has so little respect for my ability to tell when someone's trying to cheaply manipulate me. I can, but Jodi obviously can't. Fuck you. I'm not the one advocating an "alternative" of working with the system. simply ebin
So far ITT I've only heard her reference the USSR specifically to make this point over and over. Does she ever actually talk about the lessons of the USSR or is this just a moralizing bluff?
This is retarded. Zizek has the real point here, but Jodi's idea that individualism and collectivism are opposed is nonsense (the require each other).
Aiden Watson
Part 3
vid 1: idpol reached its limits ok, but we need to use the animosity toward the establishment to and their animosity toward communism to our beneift and to differentiate communism from social democracy GOD DAMNIT OK yes. 1. What planet does she live on? 2. Why does every decent thing she says get packaged with something stupid?
vid 2: communist tactics today Something tells me they're not joking. no shit Oh so not only are we going to go with a less than effective organization for helping the people (a party), we're not even going to try to make it good at its sole function. Minor point, but the right is scared of fucking everything. Come on now. SURE IS BREAKING FALSE CONSCIOUSNESS IN HERE Oh fuck me, I guess this is where all that "learn lessons from the USSR" pays off, huh? The lessons are just that those tankies betrayed TRUE state socialism and we'll do it right this time, just trust us and take the plunge. For fuck's sake at least try not to be the right wing's strawman of communists come to life.
vid 3: individualism killed OWS Just this title alone, what the fuck. No. No no no. The idea that groups and liberals are distinct in this way is a liberal assumption. The idea that people are divided along these lines is part of the basis of the liberal-liberal and conservative-liberal paradigm. Conservatives are pro-individual, liberals are pro-collective, the meme goes. This is liberal ideology. The left's position is to recognize that individuals and groups are not the starting point, that the starting point is structural power. Communists in particular look at the relations of production as the chief power dynamic. She talks about the left like history started in the 70s.
Austin Thompson
Ouch. Maybe now lenin hat fag will stop spamming this shit
Austin Lewis
I was on the fence about labeling people as brainlets (especiallly since it's usually done to newbies who are still learning a lot) but christ almighty she's brainlet par excellence.
Dominic Fisher
Now screenshot all this so that you can counter-spam it if Leninhat tries shilling again.
