MSM turns on Antifa

Did y'all see this?

youtube.com/watch?v=kmpqnxpYUqA

All the ``left" (liberal) media is turning on Antifa now.

As one of the people featured in this bit, I'm kinda pissed.

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I agree with him

The liberal media has always been anti-antifa. They're a bunch of useful idiots for the right.

Well, it's good for the democrats / MSM to denounce actual leftists so that people know that the democrats / MSM aren't lefty. But it's not a win at all.

You agree with him? How? You don't think nazis should get punched, or ….?

Did you think Jake Tapper and the likes who have known about Antifa for years suddenly forgot about it all and genuinely agreed with their politics and aggresion? Liberals are liars and they simply lied to get at Trump, because if they didn't they could not have disagreed with his statements about the street violence.

Antifa aren't necessary Leftist (they even say this themselves); defending the status quo doesn't make you Leftist.
But yes, they provide ammunition the to centrists to denounce the Left as whole.

I don't think a bunch of fat Holla Forums neckbeards are a threat to the neoliberal superstructure (i.e. the actual enemy)

Someone PLEASE webm the part with the antifa kids saying it's like cosplay and that alt-right don't own anime

What, do you think we keep saying we're not liberals just for Holla Forums's benefit or something? Of course liberals are going to start fellating the status quo like mad whenever it seems like the system might be somewhat unstable: they're simply socially progressive right wingers.

his /ourguy/

Is there a list of all the outlets praising Antifa, they will be turning on them too. It's all propaganda.

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KEK

I want the cosplay part too tho

Are you mentally ill?

"both sides"

That's not what (this current iteration of antifa) do. They even say themselves that they want to instigate the violence.
Also I'm sure they defended themselves real well against those Starbucks windows. Radical dude! I'm sure porky felt that one! (not)

Antifa are clowns.

You shouldn't underestimate your enemy. They're the precursor to a worse superstructure if you don't demoralize them and stop any attempt they make to organize.

How is it not? Socialism currently doesn't exist. What are you defending from the Nazis if not the liberal status quo?

my.mixtape.moe/hllyum.webm

well you might want to watch out because you're now a terrorist

That's fine, but (this current iteration of) antifa are really bad at it

Yourself? They want to kill communists and anarchists…


That's what they do, though.

Going to find a tiny group of people to beat the shit out of is not defending yourself. There was a gathering in Cville months ago and there was no mass violence because antifa didn't turn up.

this
if modern american antifa didn't exist, the alt right and people like spencer would never have become household names and remained impotent irrelevant and ignored.
you either go full smash or not all, no half-assing, all you do is give your opponents ammo that way

this exact logic caused the holocaust

How are you this retarded that you can't see what the perception of antifa is to centrists and he right? They're basically just no-platformers writ large; they make the problem well worse.
Well, they did initially. It's probably too late now tbh. But things are just going to get worse, mark my words.

There's a long tradition of antifa in europe, usually associated with football clubs, who actually protect neighbourhoods from racists. You don't hear about them though. Of course you don't.

This iteration of antifa - the only commendable thing they did was Charlottesville when they were defending Cornel West and his group. But the only reason the alt-right came looking for a fight to begin with was because of their previous clownish activities.

Spencer was getting radio interviews before he got punched and the aut-right was becoming well known with nazi pepe before. I don't think antifa has any meaningful impact in burgerland, but it's idiotic to attribute the rise of reactionaries to them.

You are fucking retarded.

Goebbels actually made great use of violent cummunist-Nazi conflicts for propaganda.

But even if that wasn't the case, JESUS FUCKING CHRIST WE'RE NOT LIVING IN THE 1930S. This "Trump is literally Hitler!" line is literally a liberal line.

You're countries fucked, m8, and it's not because of Nazis. It's because your Left is retarded

we had this thread before

Kind of worried that things are getting set up for DHS/FBI to label the various far-left groups as domestic terrorists TBH :~~~(

Combine that with the fact that a huge portion of your country's Left wants to give amend free speech laws effectively giving the government more censoring power

Never forget
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_mass_killings_of_1965–1966

But by black blockers actions they also provoke a response, they dont just pacify the right

>antifa are a loose-knit group of anarchists
Almond status: A C T I V A T E D

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Who the fuck plays 2hu with a controller?

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True, but I unironically attribute the street violence to them. They started a riot in Berkeley over Milo Yiannopolous (i'm only now realising how funny that is), so what did the alt-right do? They just showed up again prepared for a fight. This is literally what happened.

/ourguy/ has did a good show on Nazi punching too that I only discovered recently.
youtube.com/watch?v=PNZ0HeA8a44

OP IF you are in the blackblock tell us how you fell about idpol? What do blackblockers typically believe, and how do you organise your actions?

is this guy retarded

You don't know anything about real life if you think this is something new. Antifa and the far-right brawling is nothing new, it just wasn't going on this scale and nobody cared.

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fucking hell what's wrong with america

It's poor by western standards and pumped full of propaganda.

Are you a retard?

according to stats it's rich by western standards though
poland or portugal are poor by western standards

(OP)

It's another "Holla Forums pretends to be one of us while implying the MSM at some point supported antifa" thread. I'd suggest you read a fucking book, but you can't even read this board.

Nazis wuz good boys ='[ they wouldnt hurt nobody plz be gentle

This.

I have no idea why they belive that the point of antifa is to convince people to join their politics, rather than to compensate for the impotence of liberal democracies.

There is really no reason for these oversized and horrible uncompressed webm's.

Cool argument.
Oh wait, I forgot idpolers don't believe in arguments.

Why do Nazis use words that they don't understand? You do this with everything.

What settings do you use with ffmpeg?

There's a picture of Dylann Roof right there next to the part you quoted.

I wasn't being subtle, here, m8. I'm implying that shooting up churches is a violent thing to do.

Stats are heavily misleading, facotring out government aid half of burgerland lives in poverty, $22.5k a year for a family of 4. So most live in a debt spiral of perpetual wage slavery while the stats are floated by a caste of well off faggots and another caste of the obscenely wealthy. Compared to western europoor burger proles are poorer with less benefits and more hours.

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Those are webms, though?

Holy shit I didn't expect 2hu to be the Antifa game of choice, but I approve.

1. Why do you just assume I'm a Nazi? There are plenty of leftists that are critical of antifa.
2. What's your point? A Nazi killed people in the past - ok, how's that relevant to what I said?

I do sometimes if I'm playing on the couch or in bed.

There's plenty of idpol ppl who join the black bloc, I'm sure, but you usually can't tell because they're black bloc. Black blocs in my city are a bunch of small groups who come together. The ones who are really into it are obviously recognizable because they don't bloc up and they are shunned by the people who do. Making yourself more identifiable is a liability and trying to push your own agendas isn't really appreciated

I'm glad they're out there with us. It's not like they're preaching "kill cis ppl" or w/e other bullshit. I'm glad the tankies come out too. United front! To me, protests are partially a numbers game…

Usually black bloc is either (a) protecting a group of lefty people, or (b) opposing a group of fashy people. Organization really isn't needed until police start doing bullshit, and even then, the responses are kind of obvious. (like "run left" or "run right") Some groups will make their own plans or bring bullhorns, but for the most part, 90% of the crowd doesn't know 90% of the crowd. Black bloc is basically "there's going to be this rally and you can wear black clothing and show up with your friends"

Organization is not super great, but eh, it's more in the spirit of anarchy

My bad, copied the wrong command. the command I used to create those was with output.webm, but then later on I tried converting it into a mp4 file, and interestingly it was even more efficient. Where to webm was ~500kb, the mp4 one managed to go down to ~350kb.

Let's see what happens when the next Holla Forums poster who beats his mom ends up killing another person.

Centrists two weeks ago: We are ALL alt-left now. An injury to one is an injury to all. There are no two sides

Centrists now: Antifa is just ISIS when you think about it.

Kim, nuke us

You realize you can actually reply to the posts separately, right? Here it looks like you're addressing both of us with the same two questions. But I never said you were a Nazi.

Also, there's a difference between being critical of antifa and placing sole blame on them. For instance, I think American antifa are a bunch of assholes with murky ideologies who just happen to do a few good things. It doesn't mean I'm going to apologize for white supremacists when they attack and murder people or pretend like they weren't doing it until antifa showed up.


Because the Charleston church shooting predated all of this and coincided with the alt-right's increased participation in politics. Your laying the blame on antifa for the brawls is nonsense because what it actually relies on is an assumption that the other party was innocent and that the turn to violence didn't already exist among white supremacists. But it did, and in fact they probably have killed more people over the last decade than antifa has even knocked over trashcans or burned limos.

Brawls with white supremacists have been going on for a while, and it's not because white supremacists don't participate in them or instigate violence.

I don't think the MSM matters too much when young people are seeing the raw footage getting posted on social media. Also helps that lefty twitter is insanely popular and can frame things in a better light.

Also the escalation of violence actually worked in our favor when the aut-right pulled off their little terrorist attack. Now their ranks are actually shrinking.

They were Jews, a convenient omission.

Ok so the person who just happened to post on Holla Forums was a jew, and nationalism and zionism share a lot.

I am shocked.

Holy shit

Anarkiddies blown the FUCK out

Convenient omission also was he spent his time in juvenile hall for putting a knife up to his mother's throat for not letting him play video games enough.

Don't just pretend this person wasn't a Holla Forums Holla Forums cross poster.

Is there any cute black bloc chicks?

Please think this through.

I thought you were both the same person lel

Then we're in agreement. I don't think I did ever apologise for white supremacist violence - but I would insist on blaming antifa at least a little bit for the current street violence precisely because of how quick people are to accuse you of that as soon as you as much as insinuate it. I want to be able to criticise antifa without being called a Nazi apologist - as we all should be able to.

I don't think antifa are doing anything to stop it and they're not going to be able to stop the next Dylann Roof, just as they couldn't stop the first one.

He was literally shchizo, and his victim was Jewish, his mother. As for c-ville The whole thing was set up for something like that to happen. You either let Nazis have their hour, or attack them. But the police and local politicians wanted something to happen and they got it. They got their whole narrative. Then weeks later it wears of and Antifa are scum again to them.

I hope you understand you're in agreement with Nancy fucking Pelosi

Stopped reading there. He's a Holla Forums poster, that goes without saying.

I'm also in agreement with Noam Chomsky

You're in agreement with r/socialism

Also by the way just generally fuck off with your guilt-by-association

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Well, this is fair, then, I suppose.

Holla Forums appears to be virulently anti-semitic, strange one that a Jew would run someone over for Holla Forums

No I'm not going to fuck off by grouping you with liberals because you share the opinions of liberals. Citing Noam Chomsky in defense of saying you are in agreement with the Democrats in government is hysterical

Noam told people to vote for Hillary

Wow, the same media that refuses to cover and feverishly defends isreal when confronted about its racial Jewish only settlements and racist apartheid?
Color me surprised.
youtube.com/watch?v=Xi8yHnAcZCw
youtube.com/watch?v=iPVKSiTmU8s

It's not strange at all that nationalists are in agreement with nationalists

You blame violence on antifa when decades ago antifa was founded precisely because right-wing violence against leftists was going rampant. Just because you are too young or ignorant to know the history of the radical left in the West does not mean that it is not true. But keep blaming the victims.

Stop punching /po/ posters, please ;_;

did you vote for hillary then?

Antifa doesnt exist. Its like anonymous. Its a flag anyone can clock themselves in. So the only thing they really have in common is the black block tactic.

No. What the fuck. I don't vote at all.

Civic Nationalists like Israel, like old grannies. People shouting 'Jews will not replace us' whose ideology is based on anti-semitism, don't recruit Jews.

I already said I have no issue with antifa in europe

This fanatic refusal to acknowledge the differences between today and the 1930s is breathtaking

I'd rather be in agreement with Chomsky and get called a liberal by some red liberal poser than be a red liberal

what a fucking mess

Also

politico.com/story/2017/09/01/antifa-charlottesville-violence-fbi-242235

This looks like the end for antifa. I'd like to think this would mean they would just be forced to abandon the black block tactic and continue protesting. But lets be realistic, they are just going to crack down on all leftist counter protestors instead.

Great job, assholes.

And yet there he was. And plenty of hispanic people and asian people post on Holla Forums.

That isn't a conspiracy. That's just morons attracting morons.

You can't just say "DUHH HE WASN'T ONE OF US, WE'RE THE SANE ONES"

Because you don't sound sane in any angle of this

By following Noam Chomsky's advice you quite literally are a red liberal

When has the FBI not been on the side of the right. This is absolutely nobody's fault, the fact the secret police are protecting capitalism comes as surprise to no one.

I just want to have a quick fap. Also protesting isn't illegal.

You don't sound sane love, I am telling you basic facts about how Antifa is used. Politicians want to make the statue issue a big one, use Nazis, Police and Antifa to create a riot. They will hang Antifa the week after because the Target was Trump. It's too quick a news cycle. And they don't give a fuck that woman was killed by a nutter either, they could have had him chanting in a park for an hour instead.

I'll take your word for it, Holla Forums Tripfag

Come again tho

I was talking about American antifa you fucking retard. And "decades ago" is not referring to interwar Europe but the 80s when the boneheads were a big thing.

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You all deserve it, go fuck yourselves

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It was a conspiracy. to create a public disorder spectacle after the ACLU got them a permit after the council denied it. If you think the cops did anything but start a riot knowing the situation and use Antifa you are fucking retarded. An a woman died as a result.

Hoochie would be happy for Trump to enact an Indonesia-style Communist purge so long as she let everyone know that she was really mad about it

This tbh. Hope what you guys did to Iraq comes back on you. This is no where near enough.

There are actual screens of the police interacting with unite the right. If anything they were not "secretly using antifa", they were doing what they always do. Work in concert with the right.

You also aren't going to go back on the "HE WAS JEWISH HE COULDN'T HAVE BEEN USING Holla Forums" bullshit are you lol

What the fuck are you on about now lol

They are afraid.

How? I said that the FBI was always a protector of white nationalists until they become organized at the level of the Hell's Angels, or Aryan Nation.

Do you know anything about the FBI

Of course there was you div, they had a fucking permit.

No WN can be Jewish unless mental

get nuked cunt

I didn't know cops talking in the same chatroom as people gloating about being able to mow down protestors, was actually cops talking about permits.

Hm. The politics of protesting in the US are so interesting.

I wish. You wish. We all wish. Shut up.

Charlottesville cops were talking in chatrooms, then why did they start a riot instead of legally protect them?

says the fat whore majoring in psychiatry, bound for a cushy job.

why can't america do anything right
stick to "prom" and whatever other faggotry you guys do

The cops started a riot?


Oh no, someone is majoring in something.

It's a shame someone was in your discord

We don't have the experience that euros have with this shit. Watching everything I think antifa over here is improving as people gain experience. Also as more people get involved and the cringey fucks become less visible.

Yes you imbecile. Two groups in a potential riot situation, one legally. The police force one group to clash with another rather than a simple barrier. They then stood down. All hell breaks loose and some fucking mong kills a woman.
The only way they could have asked for more violence is if they didn't show up at all.

If you don't think they used people for political motives you are fucking retarded. Antifa gets used, then they will hang them the next week for doing exactly the same thing.

It just so happens the group in Unite The Right was using the lens of mowing down protestors in their own discord before the riot happened, is that correct?

Or was it all a conspiracy because a jew can't be a Holla Forums poster. You know it seems like you either don't understand much about protesting in the US, Cville, or are being purposefully manipulative/pretending to be smart.

Such great quotes from that discord such as


Really before any violence by the right actually started. Not mentioning the clan leader who shot his gun off.

The police force in America is not politically neutral, and usually has a far right bias.

Breaking news: people who think Hillary Clinton is left wing and a good candidate don't like Antifa.

Shock.

Yeah but how do things like those kekistani weirdos and this shit here ever happen?
I mean people like that get medical treatment over here so they don't embarrass themselves in public.

The Whole American Renaissance thing which is one of the main pushers of Race Realism is philosemitic and the leading guy's book was shilled by Murdoch Murdoch.
Richard Spencer himself talks very little about Jews and cares more about cultural marxism, irrelevant shiting and mexicans.
Both Luther Piece and Rockwell's politics have much more in common with Neo-Confederates and PaleoLibertarianism than with the NSDAP.
But I guess all those people are Not True White Nationalism and only the 14/88 LARPers at 8/pol/ and Stormfront are.

Anons in this thread are forgetting this is a way to push the "both sides are bad" narrative so porky can justify militarizing the police force.

Why are you giving me Discord spergout, mowing down antifa is what they say all day long. How does it absolve the fact the liberal elite used Antifa and protesters as tools and a totally preventable death occured. Not only that the same people spit on Antifa now after calling them heroes a week ago

It does what the elites tell them, and the American elite is Liberal and corporate.

They're not forgetting, they just refuse to admit it

Your entire movement is mental. You are a clusterfuck, and what's more you do this "HE'S A JEW" stuff all the time under the assumption that everyone else is as autistic about ethnic Jews as you are when they're basically just whites when you subtract the culture from most western Jews. In this case, no actual evidence was ever provided and it's based on his mother's last name rather than anything to do with his cultural upbringing. Similar with Milo, except he used "I can say it, I'm Jewish" as a cover - Milo wouldn't even have been targeted under the Nuhremburg laws. You guys rely on a definition of "Jew" that even Hitler would have said was too extreme and covered too many people.

It's not even surprising that you don't live up to your own ethnic standards, because they're so insane that they naturally attract psychotic flaming masochists.

Kekistan is just internet weirdos and having actual fascist movements of some scale in Europe has probably kept your own internet weirdos in line. Just my guess though. The pastel bloc thing was the usual weird liberals that have always caused massive cringe within the activist community. I can't tell you how weird activism was before occupy and up until recently. Things are definitely getting better.

How are liberals controlling antifa? All the liberals have been non-stop saying antifa is bad and everyone should ignore alt-right protests.

How the fuck was someone like Nancy Pelosi ever on the side of people in the IWW or the DSA you're out of your mind and out of your element.

Elites this elites that, you have zip.

There were 1000+ screenshots posted from multiple discords who organized the event, some containing police officers, who were threatening violence before it even started.

The fact the police let someone else protest isn't a conspiracy. The fact a murderer you distance yourself from mowed down people with a car, when the discord was openly talking violence, isn't a conspiracy.

lol no

If anything the only "conspiratorial" element here, was clearly the right.

You're no better than the fucking natzees.

Anti-antifa "leftypol" types are on the same side as Nancy Pelosi and fucking shills on the daily show. hmm..

And that's always been the case. The right will always justify fascism, neoliberalism, and ally themselves with the police to defend private property and democratic norms.

They will engage in all methods of coercion to see this through, and then blame the protestors for being coercive.

It has been historic in America for decades. Really, far beyond America and far beyond a simple matter of decades.

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Well I'm glad to hear that it's getting better because honestly the photos I've seen from your protests are embarrassing.

You're on the same side as r/socialism and Tumblr

So being on the internet is more of an offense than being on the side of the government and multi million dollar television corporations like Viacom.

Id rather be on the side of reddit plebs and tumblrites who have some questionable positions but are actively trying to do some good then fucking Nancy Pelosi or The Daily Show. You gunna write in bernie in 2020 dude? lol

Reminder to filter tripfags.

It apparently is so for the fake legal left. Revolution and revolutionary violence has to be approved by porky first and his media.

It's a real litmus test to see who hasn't filtered me yet.

What the fuck lol

The most important thing is to please liberals. That's what communism is all about.

wtf I love black john stewart now

Nobody is appeasing liberals more than retards who have their mind so warped they're defending the Daily Show.

Not hard to understand. Some folks who bash Antifa think the revolution is going to go from a bunch of legalistic activities to one day a massive insurrection. This of course has never been the case historically.

I hope your trolling, we should not appease or tail liberals but actively challenge them on their politics.

Yeah, I have no idea how people plan to use non violence as an answer while praising Chomsky.

anti-materialists like like this idpol Hoochie retard think the world splits into "sides" that are decided by your beliefs and not your actions, so if she comes across two things statements she dislikes they must be on the same badguy side. meanwhile, it doesn't matter if her actual actions strengthen and fortify the very fascist superstructure she claims to despise because her beliefs are in check so it doesn't matter.

Hoochie doesn't want to win, she just wants to be right

Did this fucking idiot legitimately use the "Antifa are fascist" meme?
Holy shit centrists need to be purged more than fascists do.

Are you huffing paint?

What the fuck are you even on about. What "idpol" am I saying

spooky idpol accusation shit should be codeword for crypto-pol trying to stir us up.

If you don't know what fucking idpol is then go back to /r/socialism, faggot.

You're raping the term like a dead horse

So called communists who are against antifa are probably crypto-pol

Picture related, its the German Communist Party HQ. They openly used violence in street fights against Brown Shirts.

Your responding to a poltard, no serious revolutionary goes on about idpol/relativist ideologies like that.

holy

The ruling class will always find an excuse to stop any movement that threaten their interests. Antifa isn't to blame by a long stretch.

If you cannot take on the Alt Right physically and disavow violence against them now, and you probably never been in a fight in your life… We are supposed to accept that you would actually fight in the streets against a more, in your eyes, legitimate american brown shirt? Probably not.

Nobody is going on about it dumbshit, it's you fucks who come here and act like idpol has always been a part of Holla Forums. Go back to fucking reddit.

Go back to Holla Forums yo.

I've yet to see you tell me what I'm doing with idpol.

don't let tankies call you a faggot. you are doing good work user. we need more left solidarity. especially among those who don't read

inshallah. i would rather go out getting nuked by victims of imperialism making a last ditch effort to strike back then shot by reactionary right wing retards.

If so called tankies are shitting on the bloc and illegal activities it really shows how revisionist they are and are out of touch completely with the actually International Communist Movement. Almost all the anti-revisionist communist groups in the US in the 60-70s carried out some form of revolutionary violence to fascists, scabs, etc.

99% of these antifa kids don't even own a gun m8. When the alt-right come armed to the teeth with rifles then you'll have a point. Keep it up and that scenario will surely come.

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Then instead of shitting on the current form of Antifa, we need to be working on building an Antifa of a new type to reconstruct it from its weak current style.

Pic related, Its the Austin Red Guards who are working on this process currently.

Thanks comrade. yes, blasting Redditors on 8ch instead of hanging out in real life with socialists/anarchists is what our adversaries want. Even if the news blasts us. I don't protest or bash the fash because I want to be a media star or make the Harry Potter democrats cream their panties!


Good point


yup. The media / Democrats can't control Antifa, Antifa has blocked the media from filming and is generally uncooperative (hmm wonder why?), and Democrats are increasingly separating themselves from the real left.


p sure it's a troll mate

I'm surprised how obvious they are about their shenaningans but then I remember how it was during the Iraq war.
They know we know but they just don't care.

are these guys retarded or what?

Hey polintelpro

Solidarity comrade.

They're Maoists so they're retarded, but not for using the hammer and sickle.

Yeah that'll work /s

Reminder to filter all tripfags. Anyone who feels the need to stand out among anons goes against chan culture and thinks they're somehow more special than everyone else.

edgy larpers in early adult years, they'll became liberal when they grow up or find that reading Marx is too boring

No investigation no right to speak. You dont even know what the Red Guards are.

Selling newspapers and moaning about SJWs will work! Maybe porkys media will shine a good light on us if we are good boys.

No it's just that americans are mindless reactionary faggots and will only take that symbol the wrong way and think you're putins fucking jihadis

Nothing is going to work. It's too late.

Welp, looks like Antifags are now considered domestic terrorists by the Federal Govt.

The Red Guards Austin run many mass organizations within proletarian communities in Austin. They recruit from them, the masses in austin respect them. Again, no investigation no right to speak.

You should put on a trip so I don't have to see your reminder every time a trip posts.

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Because you know, revolutionary leftists would NEVER be considered anything but in a capitalist hellhole like the US. Are you implying their is a legal and safe way towards revolution in this country? Would love to hear.

Thanks faggot

Perhaps their cause is not just nor honest, or did you not get that far in your thought processes?

welp (maybe fake news)

I'm pretty sure most people in austin have never heard of them and the rest of the country care even less.
All they had to do was appear neutral (like antifa was in europe before they were undermined) call themselves something like a defence force instead of looking like a boyscouts paramilitary outfit.

No, you did. Not in so many words, but by saying that if it weren't for antifa, white supremacists wouldn't be a group of violent thugs, you're excusing them from what the praxis of their ideology demand of them. Your point is literally "they didn't do anything", forgetting, purposefully or otherwise, that the entire point of their belief hinges on aggression and violence

Are you schizophrenic or actual pollyp?

Because the state decides what's just and honest. Abolitionists were just domestic terrorists.

archive.is/R6oYt

who knows?

So I guess we can write off these guys for being on the side of Nancy Pelosi too right?

she's cute

Nancy Pelosi is always wrong. Even if she turns out right on this one it would be for the wrong reasons. I do think the tone around antifa has been a bit uncritical and kinda triumphant, because the fash shot themselves in the foot, the left didn't win. As if they're just going to go away and stop being fascists now because of a few beatdowns and not just come back stronger. No. If you want to engage with them on a violent level then you have to destroy them comprehensively, like a massacre they won't forget. Clearly that isn't going to happen so the best thing to do tactically is turn up, stand firm and let them attack you. Yet all that's happened since cville is that they have played into fashy's hands.
The only good that's come out of it will be some people noticing the rather sudden and seemingly unneccessary 180 by the media, but most people will just uncritically buy the line that's pushed.

Get ready to get called a Nazi apologist

You should write a book,

This.

Porky calls and the media forgets their ideological pretenses and march in lockstep. What's new?

I was confident something had changed after cville where even centrists would see the value in "direct action" but "antifa" fucked up (let's be honest they could be state actors, antifa in europe was compromised long ago) and it all went back to the establishment playbook very quickly.
I'm surprised at the lack of subtelty though, Hollywood's really losing it's touch.

this

Antifa didn't fuck up though. We've seen massive anti-fascist gatherings for every alt-right rally since. Also, you can't "compromise" antifa. It isn't an organization. Literally only the media has turned up the antifa hate, but that isn't exactly new and it isn't like young people actually care for mainstream media to begin with.

Antifa is globalist, not leftist.

Define globalist, infowars

The only shared coherent idea in antifa is anti-fascism.

Define fascism, then consider antifa's political views.


What do you think they fight for?

So you admit that they're not leftist …

What do you mean by globalists, infowars.

lol

You can compromise antifa. This is not hard. They were infiltrated in Europe and ring leaders were identified, infiltrators would agitate and escalate situations to bring antifa into disrepute. This tactic is as old as the hills.
It doesn't need to be an organisation, they just discredit the movement. You'll see.

Traditionally they've included people from the left to center-left, but even a liberal could arguably be antifa even though that has never really been true historically.

Typical. Play rhetorical games to avoid actually challenging your perceptions.

Don't mind me boys;)
Just passing through to check out your online community. If you're reading this Michael, it's time to go to bed.

I'm asking you to define a god damn term, fucking do it already

globalism is Jews if you're the right, or the 1% and capitalists if you're the left

I''m sorry stormfront was shut down

Antifa doesn't have leaders. It's an amorphous movement. You could infiltrate individual groupings and "false flag" at best. Even in the US cops have dressed up in black to "false flag" black bloc actions int he past.

Literally any protest against fascism is antifa. I'm afraid people here think it is some kind of organization or shit.

They were never Antifa's side to begin with. I actually listened to most of their liberal shit and they always said "counter-protesters" when referring to the protesters. I don't think I ever once heard them say Antifa until recently when Trump yelled it out of nowhere at a rally.

Apology accepted. That wasn't so hard now, was it?

Palestinians don't exist. Israel was founded on a desert.

RING leaders. It's not an organisation but at the street level there's always top boys.

yes user they're asking for people that don't exist to be genocided, you are very smart.

The people living in Gaza and the West Bank are Lebanese, Syrians, Edgyptians and Jordans.
Palestine was never a thing, and will never be a thing.

My intuition tells me it's gotta be both.

lollllllll

The Daily Show and to a much greater degree Samantha Bee's show are plain trash. They kind of had their moments at the start but instead of offering any sort of stern criticism of all sides when they actually deserve it they instead go to pandering to the same interests that bankroll their show.
Samantha Bee's demonizing of Bernie voters and Trevor Noah's "what,so when a black man takes money from corporate interest it's a sign of dubious integrity? You racists" speak volumes about these people.

thinking of joining mgtow now lads

At the end of the day, Liberals care about maintaining their dominant position, the alt-right took the brunt, but the neo-liberals sure as hell don't want actual leftists in a positive light,
Just watch the Jimmy Dore Show, you'll be better off for it

They are happy with this system, it allows them to succeed far beyond their talents; if it keeps the bad guys down then so what if some good guys get crushed too?

"Vegan ISIS" ;)

Everyone, because Touhou is one of those backwards fucking doujin games where the develop assumes everyone owns a fucking controller and wants to play with a fucking controller and consequently the keyboard layout, which cannot be altered, is a pile of hot garbage only there because it lets the lazy developer map directly to controller inputs with no effort.

I honestly would take the opinion of Glenn Greenwald more than most people here.

I kinda chuckled and raged at the same time when he started talking about anime.

also the ending was alright.
It's my first time watching this nigger's show though.

Nice. I'm sick of liberals thinking everything is always about them.

Fascists are very rarely working class. They are usually petty bourgeoisie like James Fields.

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wut

I had no idea this board was this fucking pozzed when it came to the supporting a group of idpol foot soldiers lmao

Nancy don't you have Haitian children to torture?

Which one is a cop?

late to the party because Holla Forums was shit and not letting me post yesterday.
But the reality is that antifa are not friends to liberals "liberals get the bullet too" is a fun saying they have.
These people are communists and anarchists and the democratic party and media being complacent with their violence makes them look bad, especially for 2018 elections.
The more antifa riot the more the republicans can point at the democrats as being shit and say only republicans are capable of restoring order

Nigga…

It's not like he gave a speech laden with lies, or half truths, calling for the end of antifa. News flash, he's a comedian, and he's just telling jokes. It's so infantile to freak the fuck out over a comedy bit, that's literally Holla Forums-tier. Learn to take a joke, faggots.

Every American breaks three laws per day due to how broad the law has grown.

The only real way it can be enforced is due to context, place, and time.

Arguing over the morality of American law is therefore forfeit.

LEFTISTS ON SUICIDE WATCH

American comedy is fucking strange, it's just BENIS :DDDD tier jokes and mocking. I've seen videos where the "comedian" does nothing but bully members of the audience and they love it. Imagine paying money to someone to get insulted.

This thread has me so confused. How is antifa acting in any idpol capacity by protesting nazis?

Because people fighting white idpol are the real idpolers.

The GOAT antisemites are Jews and mischlings:
Hitler's driver
Several of his generals
Sam Hyde
The guy who organised the Unite the Right rally
Bobby Fischer
Andrew 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧Auernheimer🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 (same last name as Herzl's nephew) (tbqh Herzl and the early Zionists could be pretty antisemitic, at least in the sense that they agreed with nationalist critiques of Jews)
Roy Cohn
Marx (kind of)
Tyler Bingham
David Cole
The Ideal German Soldier (admittedly, when it comes to the mischling soldiers, and generals, who fought for Hitler, they may not have been antisemitic)
Milo (sort of)
Gilad Atzmon (although he doesn't consider himself Jewish)
Otto Weininger
Molymeme

Bonus round: antisemites with Jewish family members
Mike 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧Enoch🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧 (invented the echo meme while living with his supportive half-Jewish wife)
Arguably Trump (mentored by a Jew, supports Israel, constantly German-shepherd whistles)

Sontag Juden?

LOL

So Jews are better at everything, even at anti-antisemitism?

Jews go hard and seem to have a genetic/cultural/social-position-generated urge towards extremism and entryism, combined with a fair amount of amorality, from a goyish point of view, a willingness to do anything, a flexibility and a general lack of concern for what's true in a goyish paradigm. So they rise and dominate in all fields including antisemitism. Talent + amorality + discourse skill + drive + originality = victory.

I have a theory. Jews are whatever Holla Forums projects out of themselves.

Literally who the fuck cares what liberals think? They and nazis swallow every bullshit, caring about their opinion would be lowering yourself to their level.

They don't cover actual leftists at all, I've never seen a word on Rojava or movements like that. They're more than happy to cover reactionary liberal pawns like Antifa.

There is no reason to be concerned about how the left is painted by the right, we should be aiming for complete compromitation of their views and opinions to the point when everyone shuts their ears off whenever a right-winger opens his mouth.

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I have never once laughed at this retard's awful sense of humor. It still blows my mind that anyone at Comedy Central thought he was an acceptable replacement for Jon Stewart.

This is why you'll never see the working class working togheter, because you fucking retards simply won't let us do it

good

go fuck yourselves

think that a conservative president is a fucking tyrant? you need your head imploded with something blunt. i can't even describe how i hate you for what you've made of western society

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Oh cool so you've given up trying to win people's hearts and minds so what now? You want to start a vanguard revolution against the most powerful army in history? Brilliant

boohoo

oh yeah "nazis" that's what they apparently fucking are

never heard of a nazi party in america since 1940 but you'll keep going like it's a real and consistant threat and no something people adopt to spite you because you're all preachy annoying cunts

If you're working with Viacom I seriously doubt your intentions with working with class

Shut the fuck up

well done i'll congratulate the next man in drag i see

well done

The Aryan Nation doesn't exist.

Clap in the mirror faggot

hard to think the threat to your impractical political ideology is imaginary? yeah i'll bet it is. maybe you'll remember this some day, someone called you a fucking retard and you realised you were right

gunfire in your mirror hopefully

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Great comeback

it's not even about this country why do you autistically persue self identity into the dirt until a person is actually fucking nothing

thanks i'm 90% of the posts on your shitty forum now

You're right, it's hard to beat Stormfront getting shut down

You are fucking nothing

did they? wouldn't fucking know didn't browse

What did you mean by this

unread smashies and dogmatic tankies are the worst.

Yeah they did, wouldn't doubt cloudflare will come here next.

mmmmm you see buddy we have a very serious problem here

see you and your whole family when this kicks off you'll be too busy crying to stop me

Anything I could, would not equal the amount of crying, bitching, and whining, you've done in the last 6 years of your shitty little life

well that made sense

tranny

we've gone the wrong way and you're a splinter in the side of the west. china makes fun, russia makes fun. of you specifically. you're so fucking worthless to a society. it'll all fall apart and it already is. because of you all. hope you didn't imagine a communist utopia afterwards because everything can only get worse. do i blame the rich? yeah i blame the baby boomers for the obvious evidence against them. but if you think you're fighting "nazis" you're fucking idiots

What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.

oh okay we're doing this lol

gg guys

Society is falling apart because of neoliberal capitalism

I agree with the rest tho

told you all the spectacle could smear antifa.
saw this coming a mile away

no shit


and i wouldn't totally disagree with you but we're getting nowhere with what any of us want

It's what you sound like you repetitive shit

Who's us faggot

Some of us think antifa suck too

ahh

well it's a plural and i meant to say if antifa was getting what it wanted it isn't and i included myself in this

so sorry hope you're not too offended

fucking hell cunt lol no wonder nobody likes any of you

Holla Forums is nobody, cloudflare is going to shut this website down soon probably.

Really grates the gray matter.

I use a fight stick, get at me