"I Was Drugged And Forced To Do Porn"

link: yourtango.com/2012129825/i-was-drugged-and-forced-do-porn-surviving-the-sex-trade

guys did she have agency. could she have practiced better self-protection.

its like the rape "pass the buck" game, maybe girls who dress slutty get more attention from men but they aren't also actively criminals.

it's hard to know when agency begins and ends. are you always a victim, even when you're a victim?

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I fucking love Los Angeles lmao

Fucking hell

Do you ever have agency when landlords force you to pay every month to stave off homelessness?

daily anxiety and beatings would do that to anyone's appearance

Hot

Sounds like coercion to me
None of us were there tho

unfortunately no, freedom ain't free, you must always be vigilant to protect your rights from those who would violate or take them away ::DDD

Why have them taken if she wasn't prepared to have those close to her see them? What a stupid thing to do.

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Poor girl. But please don't villify my porn.

i agree, i don't get it.
perhaps her desperation overtook her common sense.


unless you're watching erika lust i'll villify til my throat is sore. i hope you're not using that shit as Sex Tips In The Bedroom, no wonder i can't get laid right.

Is this a serious question?

What the fuck. What crime did she commit, its all on her captors.

I think she made the whole thing up
She's just a crazy bitch
It's not really as bad as you say it is
Look sweetie, class comes first. The rest is just divisive.

i won't disagree, but that doesn't mean we can throw our hands up in the air and say "everything is out of our hands".

just because she was stupid doesn't mean she wasn't pimped and vice versa.

Fucking hell. The screaming ancap from last night must have really rattled some of the retarded burger Holla Forumsyps brains back several months.
Threads like this are ideal containment zones, where bans should be handed out freely. OP is a candidate for a 10 week static ban like they had when I started coming here.

well this sure is related to leftism, not emotionally manipulative, and affects me personally

Holy shit. That's horrible, man.

They drugged her, abused her.

That's it. This invalidates any other questions of agency, she clearly lacked it.

I have some public ones. You're clearly still assblasted you were cucked into shouting FREEDOM ISN'T FREE last night and now you've brought back your fuckwitted logic for another thread. Either that or you're one of the other Misesbots.

How is this related to anything?

I know you are trying to be clever, but sex work is a class issue.
Honestly, the word 'work' is a dead give-away. Exploitation of labour, abuse of workers, slavery,
C L A S S I S S U E S

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It's a meme, ya dip.

If we had just enforced the obscenity laws on the books this wouldn't have had to happen. That and we all bear responsibility for consuming the porn that creates the demand for human tragedies like this.

'agency' is a liberal hot topic and isn't relevant to us until communism

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As fucked up as this sounds if anyone knows any movies she acted in or her nom de porn then it would be easier to hold the people who did this accountable.

Nobody has agency.
Free will is an illusion.
It isn't her "fault", but it isn't anyone else's "fault" either. The universe is shit and she should just escape from it.

What kind of retard pays for porn or visits porn sites without an ad-blocker?
Seriously. Anyone stupid enough to do that should be executed to preserve the gene pool.

Also this is only further evidence that 2D > 3D.

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These guys know whats up

This happens everyday in the UK by grooming gangs, thousands of victims who would do anything to have this level of exposure for their stories but they will never get it because of the UK governments iron grip on their media

Those industries provide us with resources and materials
Name one good thing the porn industry contributes to society other than deadening people's sexual appetites and idea of self worth so they are easier to turn into a living toilet if you so please

I want Man children to fucking kill themselves. Feminists are 100% right about rape and the attitudes that allow it to continue. A woman could go into a man's room naked, masturbate in front of him, and if he tries to have sex with her and she says "no, I don't want to have sex" and he does it anyway that's still rape. I don't understand what controversy MRAs have about this.

yeah but she sexually assaulted him first
so it's pretty much tit for tat my g

No it isn't because that's what she went there for, to say no and get off on the 'rape' in your daft scenario.

And whose side would the courts take when I report her for indecent exposure and sexual harassment?

Pornography is disgusting, decadent commodification of the human body. It will be abolished under communism and pornographers sent to the gulags and or wall.
Stop watching that filth

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Baded generic red flag schools this petty borgue fags. If you want porn you get the gulag

I'm sure they'd be quick to act if you had got naked yourself and masturbated in front of her - doing exactly the same as she was doing to you.

Link related: 90.146.8.18/en/archives/festival_archive/festival_catalogs/festival_artikel.asp?iProjectID=8620

This is ancient, from like 1995, but very prescient.

Based Sniff Man talks about virtual sex and the deadening of pleasure. We pursue things not merely because we need them, but also because the fulfillment of the desired goal is a pleasurable thing by itself, even if only a little. The fact that porn is so easy to find and ubiquitous only compounds the problem of it inducing apathy among the people.

Sample:

This decentering is what robs us of our agency as social subjects, and the implantation of these desires by pornography binds our drives to them, and the more we repeat our pursuit of these desires, the more our psychological drives bind towards their reproduction through repeating the mental state we had when we encountered that desire. Porn is literally a facehugger that rapes your mind and hijacks your drives to reproduce the desire of a monstrous Other, a horrible Alien that goes on ti kill and eat others like you. Don't let it.

wtf i hate socialism now

Bro, do you even pic related? That's a heroin addicted prostitute from Hunts Point in The Bronx.

pic NOT related, the fuckin morons worrying about whether she's hot enough to get raped are fuckin morons

i figured it wasn't worth debating but i'm Low Energy like that.

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inb4 vinterflamma's tits

that's a shit philosophy

Why the fuck is this whole thread filled with MRAs and third-wave feminists?

This is the nature of porn threads.

This is what Holla Forums is now

It true, it's a gross symptom of alienation, and is itself alienating.
But realistically, we're doomed and our minds are already polluted.
Just do whatever.

The drinks preceded the topless photos.

I honestly have little empathy for women who try to take the easy way out of life by "modeling". Most models and aspiring models are almost universally the vapid, gold-digging parasitic type of women.


What about "simulated" pornography like hentai, SFM porn, and rule 34 illustrations?

Funny you would think that, since most mutualists are edgy, ill read, fucking mongs.

Comodification is what happens under capitalism. Some people will still be slutty under communism.

no they won't. all female skimpy outfits will be banned. women will dress like they did in the 1920's and men will return to have fetish for ankles.

*were still slutty

communism happened a few times

Yea, I bet she went over to bill Cosby's too. You know, for a totally above board, on the up and up consultation about young actresses trying to break into the business.

Oh the best part: This just shows how woman hateric out society is. Her internalized hatred of women lead her to victim blame. They called her a "trafficking victim." Yea slut, maybe you don't get fucking wasted and let dudes take a topless picture? "hey baby, don't worry. We are taking pictures for a calendar where you will wear special clothing to fit the theme, but we need to make sure you look okay naked first."

Well no shit. How many drinks did you have. How much did you eat that day. How much do you weigh. How commonly do you consume large amounts of alcohol. How often have you done rave drugs. Not to victim blame, but in other cultures they teach their women to act like they are eating and drinking in front of men. Okay that was a broad brush painting all other women in other cultures as geishas lol, but really, show me the non-western culture where women have such a high rate of alcoholism. and even beyond that, most people couldn't drink two absolute martinis back to back. They would be HAMMERED.

It is No Ones job to make sure you don't get taken advantage of, other than yourself. Whether it is buying a lemon of a car from disreputable dealer, drinking six shots at the bar, or moving to a new town and going to a "photo shoot" where you think it is appropriate to drink before you work. For the love of god internet, please find the porn and reveal it to be one of those incredibly shitty "backroom casting couch" things.

and you faggots with your fucking gulag talk. Yet you have the audacity to claim not only the moral but intellectual high ground as well. How about you go read a book. The Gulag Archipelago. Oh a little to fucking real for the communists? Even if I admit that the USSR wasn't real socialism or whatever stupid shit eating excuse you come up with for your backwards and dangerous ideology, those were real gulags. I hope you never have to go to federal pound you in the ass prison. I sincerely do. Despite the fact that it would be a pleasure cruise compared to the "gulags" you larp for you cock sock.

Unpopular opinion time. I like Gulag Archipelago and believe pornographers belong in the gulags.

The point wasn't that pornographers are degenerate. The point was that Gulags are degenerate. I am sure you love that book, for whatever twisted reason you do. I still hope you never go to just a rape prison, as opposed to a government run concentration camp. There is a difference that maybe one day you will mature into seeing.

You mean the book that was written by a nazis who got caught trying overthrow the government and whose whole basis for the book is his totally real and completely unbiased 'experience' in a soviet gulag?

Everyone I don't like is a Nazi.

fuck. I mean I hope you don't go to any prison, But if you want to usher in gulags then of course you know unless you are god damn stalin you aren't above them. and guess what faggot. You aren't stalin. you aren't half the brain dead, sociopath, serial rapists, mass murdering thug he was, regardless of how badass you want to act like you and your 13 year old cousin look in the mirror.

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cute. actually the whole basis for the book is a great many peoples experience in the gulags. over many decades. But hey, why would I expect Holla Forums to listen and believe. Its not like its their god damn dogma or anything.

No he literally was a Nazi who tried to organize a Nazi overthrow of the local government where he got caught so that it could be taken by Nazi Germany.

Go back to Holla Forums if you genuinely believe economics=leftism.

I believe that pornographers belong in prison. If we have gulags we should send them there. I'm not the biggest fan of gulags, but if we have them let's use them on shitty people.


He was imprisoned for coded letters though. If he really were a Nazi thanks for saying that a lot by the way then they likely would have killed him. Although he was an artillery captain leading the fight against Nazis in reality. Tough

okayyy so does
Gulag: A History of the Soviet Camps
by Anne Applebaum
Gulag Voices: Oral Histories of Soviet Detention and Exile
by J. Gheith, K. Jolluck
or
The Gulag Survivor: Beyond the Soviet System / Edition 1
by Nanci Adler
count as real books?

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his own wife admitted it was more fictitious than real.

Unless they say the gulags were good and that they deserved it no.

I'm not talking about porn like everyone else is but if you wanna hear me out, it's exploitation against women.

FIRST wife? interesting omission of words eh?

well this became fruitful. please excuse me for not talking to you anymore.

gonna guess you got that from the bibl- I mean wikipedia. so here ya go big boy. the rest of the three sentences from that part "However, it is likely that her memoirs were part of a KGB campaign, orchestrated by Yuri Andropov in 1974"

Proper liberal paradise

It's like you think gulags were bad or something

Yeah they did

course that is probably just porky propaganda right? those KGB agents were always pretty legit. That is why putin is so well respected amirite?

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It is hard to detect in the written word.

ok, now I do hope you go to federal pound me in the ass prison. Just for like 2 weeks. on a false charge they let you go over and you waste a large chunk of your life trying to sue for wrongful imprisonment. All of which are things that don't happen with gulags. But hey, why not have an abysmal black hole that you can throw political dissidents into whenever it suits your need. No way YOU will EVER end up being the dissident. right. right? right!

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just like I thought, No wherewithal. That is why you revololtionaries wont accomplish anything, and no one is scared of you. You get bored to easily, or write the people you are arguing with off as stupid. You will never form anything even approaching a governmental push and are lucky that the KGB had 150.000 agents in america at the height of the cold war. They won the part of the war focusing on your parents, who are now trying to teach 19 year olds (You will notice the push to get even younger kids into college. wonder what that's all about…) how to be good communists like you, except that while your mind was rotted from birth by your misanthropic parents, these children are getting better and better, from a younger and younger age, at clapping back at these old faggots trying to teach them to hate. Good luck with Generation Zyklon. You will need it. They aren't the limp-wristed mush mouthed babes you have been raised to be. It will be funny when your parents commit mass suicide in the face of the anti indoctrination generation THEY SIRED.

Happens all the time in America

Except 80% of people in gulags were there for ordinary crimes. Almost all people sent to gulags were released within 5 years too, in peace time a sentence above 5 years was almost unheard of. Your glorious Solzhenitsyn's life was saved from cancer in those evil gulags. That was in the early 1950s, how many prisons got hospitals and medical staff like that at such time?

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Can I get a source for this?
I'm kind of curious now

No it didn't.
Every single time they've tried, they only made it to a transitional stage.

unless you're talking about primitive communism, that is.

This image is lacking a lot.
It looks un complete.
do any of you have more pictures of right wingers you would like me to make a Template from them?
I'm one of the most important Travis posters.
see:
>>>/travis2k/764

You're taking the gulag way more seriously than almost everyone here.

For those few that do unironically try to defend them. They're tankies and have nothing of value to say. They are not the face of far leftism, and their ideas are antithetical to pretty much every far-left ideology in history besides their own branch.

What is your solution for criminals then, genius?

Holy shit, you are beyond delusional. Do you actually think SJW crap is because of KGB infiltration? Do you actually think our parents are all SJW communists who turned us in to what we are today? You people are the biggest political laughing stocks conceivable.

And by the way, the reason for the push for college is because a degree is pretty much required to make it to the top of capitalist society, and only very specific fields and sub-fields have the "leftist bias" you love to complain about. Not every degree revolves around sociology.

Depending on the crime, things like corporal punishment, prisons (I have specific ideas about how they should be operated differently from modern prison shitholes), and for very serious crimes like very violent crimes and corruption, execution.

I see. I don't want to derail this thread but if you support all that I don't see what's your problem with gulag camps then.

Because gulags are way more harsh than any of the punishments I listed, and people were disproportionately sentenced to the gulags for minor offences. You can deny it all you want but gulags were absolutely cruel and miserable places, especially under Stalin.

Don't even think of pointing out that gulag death decreased extensively after Stalin, that doesn't mean they were any less disproportionate and unpleasant places to be. Slave labor is wrong and antithetical to leftism even if you feel someone is asking for it.

The US prison system has more prisoners in it mostly for non-violent or straight up victimless crimes than the USSR ever had in its gulag. Also slavery is abolished in the US EXCEPT for as punishment for crimes.

seansrussiablog.org/2013/05/11/us-prison-industrial-complex-versus-the-stalinist-gulag/

content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2109777,00.html

what both of these fail to mention and what is conveniently at the bottom of the wikipedia page for it is a direct per capita comparison

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_United_States_incarceration_rate_with_other_countries

Drugging peoples fucked up yo.

I don't get it why didn't she just go to the DMV and get a new ID? Or just call her parents? I mean I can understand one time, but months?

It doesn't say she was kept locked up in a sex-dungeon or sent overseas to fuck random men.

I mean she's 24 and unless she was a total neet fuck up til then she should have money and a bank account.

This bullshit ought to be expunged en mass.

exile, voluntary probation, inpatient/outpatient care, branding/tattooing, labor as an alternative to the above

So the article makes it very clear that she was a very devout christian and an angelic being.Which coincidentally aligns with the faith-based organizations it promotes."Charities"

So basically a way to imply human slavery circumstances without making any allegations that could be traced to any actual crimes committed.A fabricated back-story that plays all the notes to cynically prop up their organizations.
Then she gets painted as some sort of hero good christian that ended up stripping and getting rescued by a your virtuous man, and envoy of one of the organizations represented. And how she could stop stripping with their "counseling".Not their money, remember, that's off message.

So It's more likely that they picked up some (ex)crackwhore that ended washed up in a strip club after running out of her parents money in the mistaken belief that all she needed to succeed at life was the same she needed thus far, her sex.The people she fucked for change got tired of her and she ended up stripping to feed her habit.Cleaned her up, gave her a purpose and a fake back-story and made a loyal puppet to parade as an example of their fight for "women".

Man, I wish I could get drugged and forced to do porn.