Ayo Leftypol, basically a few of you might remember me talking a while ago about how I was starting a Leftist Politics Society in my school (British), so that Leftist ideas can reach a larger audience, and more importantly a young audience (who are fucked).
SO this is an improved list that a small amount of you might have seen me post a while ago, I'm just starting this thread so that people can critique the session plans and give suggestions for what I should add, tips for improvement or how to deliver stuff, ways of communicating ideas that I'm just doing my best to understand myself. Written vertically (if the picture is portrait) is a recommended reading list that I need mainly to get through myself, and suggestions are welcome for that too (i.e. stuff that you think is worth adding and aren't mentioned in the desc. of the session plans).
I'm a LibSoc, so naturally the sessions are biased in that way, but I'm gonna do my best to give Marxist Leninists, Maoists, Hoxhaists etc. a fair representation because free marketplace of ideas :^).
I don't really have any antagonism towards MarketSocs, LeftComs or DemSocs but advice how to deliver that is welcome too.
Also the sessions will be idpol friendly, partially because how fucking else will I get people to turn up but also because I kinda think being anti-idpol as a rule is kinda dumb… anyway.
The main reason for me doing this is because I just think the sessions would benefit from the advice of people who have read more theory and historical info than me. Thanks and everything is appreciated.
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Also I can explain what I meant with my obscurantist descriptions. I might need to go in a bit, but I'll do my best to respond to advice etc. later.
First, are you in high school? College? Are you an undergrad, a grad student, teacher, what?
Maybe throw in something about Pre-Capitalist societies? The Inca and their centrally planned economy is pretty interesting plus by covering "primitive communism" and why it's something bad just like Capitalism, you can discourage Anprims, Comprims, etc…
British Secondary Grammar School, I'm a Sixth Former. I guess to Americans thats like an Undergrad? idk
This is great, and I was actually interested in South American ancient society from reading something about it on this board. Is there any recommended reading you could link me about it? If not then dw I'll be able to look into it.
Also I just realised there should be like a whole session on the history of capitalism (like starting from Adam Smith, Cromwell and the brutality vagrancy laws, etc), maybe I could mix that with a session briefly outlining feudalism, slavery and mercantilism, they are relevant prerequisites to the nature of modern capitalism…
Thanks. Btw, do unironic AnPrims actually exist? And wtf is ComPrim?
Are you decently well-read in all of those subjects?
You mean the subjects in my OP? Er, idk, I think I'm too much of a seventeen year old mess to be decently well read in all of them. I listen to audiobooks on my commute when I can, and I've read a lot of articles and blogs etc. about most of those subjects so I think I could explain all of them to someone fairly well. I'm also gonna be reading over the coming months etc. and I'm gonna see what people I can get to help out with the Soc. Tbqf I learnt most of what I know from YouTube vids and talks, because I'm a lazy git and so on, but then BadMouse learnt most of what he knows in the same way I guess (I know he's disliked here but never acc found out why).
There was an user who went to my school who I found by accident in some shitposting thread one day, and they were like a year younger than me and much better read than me. So that gives me hope. A large part of this is just the praxis of starting the soc, as in I'm leaving school in like a year so its people younger than me who will have to take up the torch. It's something rather than nothing that I can do with my meaningless life.
Eh, there are a couple decent book on the subject but I don't have any as PDFs to share. Sorry.
There are, but I wih there weren't. And Comprims are the people who think that the best option is to return to "primitive communism" - they aren't very common.
Thanks anyways for the idea
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No one has anything else?
Oh well, I'll leave the thread to die after this bump
That looks really good! While it be filmed? Some suggestions if you want to add more sessions:
For the reading list, I don't think The Conquest of Bread is that good if you don't read Kropotkin's other major works so I'd remplace it by Berkman's What Is Anarchism?. I'd also add James C. Scott.
An impressive list, specially the "BAN FUN" bit.
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Well, see, one of my concerns is that the combination of lack of expertise in most of those subjects, and the amount of subjects you intent to cover, will result, even if you succeed, in a pool of understand of left-wing subjects that is wide but also really really shallow. I don't know what your sessions will look like, but assuming it's one or two encounters of a few hours each there is absolutely no way you're going to teach people enough most of those subjects decently.
I mean, sure, you can use the Youtuber approach of explaining, say, different schools of Socialism by removing them of the circumstances and the dialectics behind it, simply saying "Trotsky wanted more planning" or something like that, treating them as fixed abstractions, but you will all leave with very little. To give people enough time to understand a subject, to grasp the circumstances and debates within a movement, to actually understand the implications, method and goals of a theory, to make them meditate about them and reflect about those issues in their own time, that's way more important than throwing a wide web and attempting to cover as many issues as possible in one go.
Besides that, some of these books and subjects are like, probably too advanced? Unless you're a group of very prodigious teens there's absolutely no fucking reason you should even be attempting to understand Lacan, Foucault, Zizek (besides the jokes).
I have some experience with organizing study groups, I didn't do it alone but I was responsible for most of the History-related subjects, and in my experience people grow really detached, bored and confused if you throw too much at once. The most successful approach I had was having a few fixed points, like the first two Internationals, or maybe Marx and Lenin themselves, and covering the debates and theories as they developed historically and intersected with those organizations and individuals. And it worked, at least until a bunch of people got mad at us for bullshit reasons and my organization imploded.
Do you actually smoke?
My wi-fi has jumped ship, I'm basically living on my own and my family are financially kinda fucked so they can't afford to pay for the internet where I'm living anymore.
I'm only able to post through mobile data (phoneposting rn), which is precious and limited because it's my only way of contacting my family and friends, as well as info from school and any work I may do.
So sorry I won't be able to give in depth responses for like a week; when school starts again I'm gonna see if I can use a proxy to et Holla Forums in school and address the thread. I might, probably, hopefully, post weekly in this thread and discuss the topic I was going to present, plus tips and sources and vids to use, so the most use can be made of this thread and our collective intelligence. Many deep thanks for all of the contributions to this thread, this shit is materially going to be really important because my generation are gonna be in the thick of the collapse of capitalism and one of the greatest barriers to socialism I can attest to is widespread ignorance of its nature and the separation of propaganda from slightly less propagandery history. Thank you all.
See you, Space Cowboys
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