Why is it that:

Why is it that:
But we cannot even make the suggestion that:
How come 5 000 years of parallel evolution can result in lineages that are ten times more likely to hear voices on their heads, but it would be unacceptable to say that a 60 000 year gap might have resulted in different levels of intelligence?

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Why cant you say it? Equality doesnt mean that everyone is the same but everyone is treated the same. And the reasons are more enviromental than biological. We could keep you undernourished and observe that your Autism Level would be less than 70.

discrete "races" literally don't exist. different people have different genetics and there is genetic drifting. some people are more genetically similar to others

how come you're not allowed to say this? who is preventing you from saying it?

I don't know about races, but a few years gap between Holla Forums and Holla Forums has indeed obviously resulted in different levels of intelligence.

I would be interested in a study of whites raised in East Asia or, even better, adopted by East Asian parents to see how true this is.

Poverty Stresses The Brain So Much That It's Like Losing 13 Autism Level Points

The daily pressures and stresses of poverty take up so much mental energy that it reduces cognitive function.

According to a new study, sciencemag.org/content/341/6149/976 being preoccupied with money can cause low income people to suffer a drop in Autism Level of 13 points on average.

A few comparisons highlight how severe that is. That difference in Autism Level is about the same as the gap between a chronic alcoholic and a normal adult, citylab.com/life/2013/08/how-poverty-taxes-brain/6716/ It's comparable to the cognitive drop people see when they've just pulled an all-nighter.

businessinsider.com/poverty-effect-on-intelligence-2013-8?r=US&IR=T&IR=T

YOU CAN DRAW CONCLUSIONS WITHIN ANY CATEGORIES YOU DECIDE, BUT WHERE THE LINES ARE DRAWN IS ULTIMATELY ARBITRARY.

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This

If that's true, how come adoption does not in fact close the gap in intelligence between races?

How come China, which has a lot of poverty, has a score of 100, while certain latin american countries with a higher purchasing power had a lower score? Venezuela was far wealthier than China, how come people didn't turn out smarter there?

the black vs the white adopted parents looks like a pretty huge difference to me

Yes, children who are biologically black, have a sub 90 score even when adopted. But I think you interpreted the data wrong.

The Flynn Effect still applies to you depending on your biological birth mother.
obviously not all babies are born with the same intelligence. I'm sure there are genetics involved but if your mother is in poverty or starving, the baby tends to be less intelligent.
And even in Africa Autism Level has been continuously "rising", albeit at a much slower rate.

The one table I posted was the one adjusted for the Flynn Effect, and it actually made blacks look even worst.

Why are most racists so overwhelmingly pro-capitalist and socialists are so overwhelmingly anti-racist?

Why are there so few woke ass NazBols like me?

what is the end goal of this question? so blacks are "dumber" than other groups; what follows?

Eugenics and general social-Darwinism obviously.

Maybe how we procreate and the demographics we have actually matter? Maybe all irrelevant shiting and immigration has in fact long lasting consequences.

Parental care isn't the only thing that influences a child's intelligence. Also think about the class difference between adopting parents and biological parents who had to give up their child

what do you mean by adjusted?

Nobody stopped you from making this suggestion in the very OP.

Whatever your race, your personal level of intelligence ain't doing great.

Seems like you can just dodge and flee to whatever gap you find, and it would take really long to address everything here for you.

Let's cut to the chase like the very first post did.
You are either trying to :
or
Either way, your world view is incredibly foolish. Given what we know, assuming different races have different genes that forms brain mass differently would be the default position. In no other variable in human being we would ever assume that all races are identical and that all differences can only be environmental. Why would intelligence and brain mass be any different?

so violence really. potentially genocide

there is literally no way to stop miscegenation without extreme authoritarian measures and infringements on liberty. immigration laws based on race will never be acceptable in contemporary society or policy

That's right.

Because in ninety nine of a hundred cases it's just an excuse for racists to not like people that look different from them.
Fuck off btw

Well, you are very wrong. One way miscegenation can be greatly halted is if the population understood that race actually matters.

that's not going to happen

Why? Lots of people already do. Why would you want to trick your family members and friends into lowering their offspring intelligence? Why would you want your beloved ones to have a child who'll have zero chance of being an academic lead?

It's crazy how people are obsessed to maintain and believe in something that is so easily proven as wrong. Just think of this: there will be consequences, you can and will be hurt throughout your life if you hold your beliefs too tight.

I agree why would you ever want to trick your family and friends into having a child with an orc. I mean it's just unnatural.

because people don't care. people are becoming less racist with each passing decade, not more so, and it's only going to continue
that's because people aren't rational. hence why people still support capitalism, states, leaders, and other blatant stupidities

They're becoming less racist because they're becoming more attached to beliefs that aren't true and this won't necessarily continue indefinitely.

demographics are changing too rapidly for a change in opinion to have any effect. it's irreversible at this point

The burden of proof is upon you. You have fanciful claims about the nature of genetics and intellegence with nothing to back you up but anecdotes that can be explained away be the scientifically likely reason that brains develop differently under different material circumstances. We also know for a fact that while nature takes it course not a whole lot of mutations takes place, especially in animals with really slow sexual maturity like humans.

Are you trying to suggest there's going to be one equally brown race by the end of the century or something?

So you should willfully let yourself bet euthanized by your Jewish overlords then?

Big time.

I am a Jewish supremacist.

the u.s. will soon no longer be a "white" majority. europe is catching up and it will only increase as capitalism, overpopulation and climate change continue to degrade the developing world's environment and living conditions and force its people to seek refuge in the developed world. monoethnic societies are not a feasibility in today's world

So are you Jewish?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_brain

not even mention of race, much less distinctions in the brain. they can't even find out different components in the brain.

I don't understand the race realists, what the hell are they trying to do? Look silly?

Except if you are a black society, or an asian society, or a pacific society, or a latin american society, or a jewish society.

But yeah, if you are white, you can't have a mono ethnic society. Open your borders.

I'm not entirely convinced the US is a white majority today.

You mean in today's western world. And I would agree. But having a diverse society does not mean racism can never make a comback - whites were a minority in South Africa and it was still racist as fuck. There was a time when whites were a minority (or at least very close to it) in America and it was racist as fuck.

You're also implying capitalism will survive for long enough for any of this to happen to such an extent racism is impossible. When I think it should be clear to everyone here that capitalism is basically fucked.

There's also the matter than even if it goes on for so long that whites are extinct there are still going to be many races left, as well as very very many mixed race people of various degrees. Who's to say there won't be Asian supremacy over brown people, or Mulatto supremacy over regular Africans?


Sadly not. I just can't deny the abundant evidence that Ashkenazi Jews are the real master-race.

So basically, the more politically correct things get, the more """factual""" political correctness becomes. To the point that claiming the genes you put on your son might matter is racist and oppressive.

Do you honestly think that people in the academia can actually discuss this freely?

Are you at least in on the covenant of circumcision?

Literally kill yourself.

Absolutely not, having a foreskin is one of the advantages of being a goy.

Facing massive amounts of critique and even just criticism is what happens to literally every scientist trying to make a claim for something that overturns currently held scientific canon. You're not being selectively oppressed, dumbass.

Intelligence isn't even a measurable statistic like those other things.

Woah, what a rebuttal.

Can you explain to me why Japan can remain 90% japonese and have a discriminatory immigration policy but white countries have to try to be bellow 50% white?

Justify their racism.

Fuck Japan, tbh.

But, but, why are white people the only white people who have to go through these things? You know what I'm saying?

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Yea sure use Japan, the country where people are so alienated that the population dying because people won't fuck each other, as the ideal society you want.

You are delusional if you think that mentioning race and intelligence would result in the same regular type of criticism as any other scientific theory. Your are going full wishful-thinking here.

If you try to make said discussion happen in the real world, chances are, you'll never be employed for the rest of your life. That's why the only ones that mention this bullshit it are 90yo scientists that already had their run in life. Doesn't sound like some healthy scientific skepticism of new theories to me.

nah

Stop talking to your crazy person strawman characters. The only person forcing whites anyhing is retarded whites like you that force shitty captialist immigration on us. If you want to save the white race start by killing yourself.

Fuck them. Why do they want a healthy country of people with the same culture and race with an average intelligence score of 101 instead of having an overcrowding island filled with negroes and muslims with an average intelligence of 90?

Do not get me wrong, Japan sucks. But this is one of the good things about it.

God's love for us is based on the surgical work we've had done on our penises, user. Have you ever read this book, user(pic related)?

wow you really care about people huh

What did xi mean by this?

Why would I believe in god when all the best Jews are atheists?

It's ok if everybody is so fucked up that they don't even want to fuck each other as long as they also don't want to fuck icky brown people

Ah yes I remember when Hungary tightened up immigration laws and was subsequently nuked.

Who says white countries have to be rendered non-white? Nothing stops their governments from restricting immigration if they so desire.

Well the bourgeoisie do for one thing.

yet you dont have a problem with the bourgeois

Yeah, that's why people in Japan kill themselves. Because there's not enough people there and because there's no black population with an 85 point intelligence to make them happy.

Fuck japan, and white countries. I'm so happy seeing Paris and other cities get completely conquered by blacks. Capitalist white countries are falling apart and whites become a tinier and tinier minority in the world.
youtube.com/watch?v=Z1Js8wntdk4

Just imagine, 1000 years of oppressive white capitalist tradition being destroyed, and fixing it will be almost impossible. I look forward to the future.

Okay. What makes you think that?

Where do you think all the powers come from. It's foreskin that's holding you back user. Unleash your full potential.

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That "good thing" being it is 99% Japanese.

why do you even care about this shit?

because it's negligible. not really noticeable, now gtfo.

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Reminder that even if there are inherent racial differences in intelligence, they're almost certainly not as large or significant as Nazis think they are.

bah fuck discussing about race Holla Forums, it always goes to "humans vs orcs" with you, thats the main point of Holla Forums ideology to transform individual's views into fuckin WarCraft. Dweebs.

wow a whole 4 point difference from being adopted vs non adopted
also if asians are so smart shouldnt the ones adopted by asians be at the top of the chart.

The thing about that study is that the conductors admit they didnt control for all the variables, especially since they only tested twice, they investigate the parenting styles or review the parents nor give them Autism Level tests

Psst:
A 90 point score is already low enough to the point where the only thing the individual is worth for is reading instructions and following them correctly.

But it gets better, because there's also the bell curve. What it means is, that as you demand higher intelligence in certain occupations, the likelihood of someone from a less intelligent race to be able to work there reduces exponentially. Academic leaders, top engineers, or anything that requires intelligence above 120 will have the gap between black and white being much,much greater.

Meaning, irrelevant shited kids, or black kids, are genetically incapable of assuming certain positions in our society. If you are 100 point person you are already bland and useless for many demanding jobs, a 85 person would never be special in his or her lifetime.

How does one here voices on their heads? This sounds like a marvelous genetic adaptation.

Bro, you sound kind of retarded.

their monoethnicity is what makes it such a shithole you retard. cultural hegemony is a cancer that leaches off the working class.

Alright yeah you got us, all Holla Forums wants is to import millions of black people to the west to dillute the noble white genes but trust me it's for a good reason. The white race is old news, savage and destructive. The only true path to save the world is to weaken the white race through their empathy for black people that way when europe falls the east asian master race can wipe out the remaning muts and colonize the world as the true master race. With jews, irish and east asians in unision the forces of humanity will be unstoppable, only a few blacks will be kept around for this for entertainment value as they're much better entertainers than whites, genetcially.

Measuring intelligence isn't scientific to begin with.

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journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0138412

If current trends continue, average US I.Q will be ~102 in 2060.

The horror.

Bro, I think you might be retarded.

But how on earth can any of them be academic leads if they all are?
you realize that most geniuses came from pretty mundane parents right?
you realize that this wont create a race of superhuman geniuses because as genetics will prove humans arent 1:1 copies of their parents. We arent fucking single cell organisms

Yes, the reason Japan sucks is because they don't have enough funny black people there. Nothing to do with the fact that it's possibly the most classcucked nation on the planet.

I do not think you understand what that phrase means. "Cultural hegemony" is not the cultural homogeny of a nation. It is the cultural domination of a society by a class, in this case the bourgeoisie over the proletariat. This happens in every capitalist society regardless of how diverse it is.

You sound like a creationist

But why haven't you self-euthanized for the glory of the Ashkenazi master race yet, whitegoy?

class-cuckoldry is more likely when you and your boss have the same cultural and ethnic background.
you want to turn every country into a shithole like Japan?

because dipshits that bring it up don't know fucking anything about what they're talking about and their feeble minds just latch on to things like Autism Level because even though they're dumb as shit they can at least see that their theoretical numbers (as though they themselves have ever been tested) are higher than blacks, therefore it's wrong that jamal gets to fuck stacy while they stay home masturbating to anime

selected proof of Nazbols being the worst flag

never go full retard

Not gonna happen. With a decrease with the white demographic as a percentage will come a decrease in the average Autism Level.

Yea japan's problem is they arent getting blacked enough
not that they work fucking 80 weeks
not that they have no time to raise children
not that their own culture disdains meeting strangers
nope its always blacks and dicks with you crypto-Holla Forumsyps

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Can you at least try to think for yourself?

Get that shit outta here

The study takes into account immigration trends.

That was the entire point of the study.

your point is scientists wanting to reserve judgment until they get enough data to conclusively say "yea that works out right" is not being selectively oppressive you mong

In all seriousness for a couple of reasons
1. I don't think extermination in that way is a good strategy for ethnic cleansing as it is a waste of a labourer. Instead we should opt for sterilization so that a person may continue to build on society with their labour while not polluting the gene-pool.
2. I think self-sacrificing for the sake of advancing society is a bad idea, even if it would work as the main goal of your life shouldn't be to improve society but to make things better for you personally. So while killing myself so the Ashkenazim are 1 goy closer to covering the planet would be better objectively speaking, it would be better for me to pollute their gene-pool so I get better Jew enhanced offspring. If I was black this same logic would apply to whites.


Well that can't be true, because the USA is turbo class-cucked and also very diverse.

If you're trying to suggest immigrants are going to bring us class-consciousness you sound like a Holla Forums strawman of what they think Holla Forums is like.

So what exactly is your game plan? How is posting in support of this topic online going to make things better for you personally?

Posting on Holla Forums is an end in itself because it's fun.

There's no such things as scientific discussions about it because the persecution is far too great. The few genetic data that shows up purposely omits how genes are distributed through the population and you have to look really deep into it to see the correlation with races; and everyone who'll talk about said genes to do said things, will always avoid talking about race if it includes blacks.

The "Warrior" gene is a good example. A gene that was found to have a high link with stabbings, which is almost exclusively in african ancestry, but the people who talk about it almost never mention it.

Saving The White Race one funpost at a time I see. Well, carry on lad.

hmm

Assuming the premise is true, how would treating black people like shit contribute to effectively dealing with those genetic short comings?

Son, 1/20 chance of being highly more likely to murder is not "rare" when you understand the weight of the consequences. When you have a large black population, the result is much more violence and ZERO social trust.

again if you read the abstract

When did I say that treating black people like shit would somehow improve things? When did I even gave any proposal at all to dealing with this?

The only thing you can do is not irrelevant shit and be aware that the genes of the person you marry matters.

It says in the abstract that it's rare and no where does it state a hard number
if you have a source on that number from the study then post the study.
Other wise that number is coming from your ass

But people dont work like that you autistic mong
and besides wouldnt mixing white dna into black dna help deactivate that rare but not really rare allele?
or are white genes just to damn recessive despite being Superior?

It's literally the first thing it states, you fucking dunce.

This shows that you can't even consider it a possibility. The last think you want to do is look at this issue with a neutral eye and try to see if its true or not. That's how dogmatic anti-racists are.

That's not how genetics work, dummie. What would happen is that it would decrease from the point of view of a black person, but it would increase the problems from the point of view of a white DNA.
Why would you want to lower the quality of your own children so you clean the gene poll of others? Sounds really pathetic.

Quite the contrary, people work like that. The overwhelming majority only dates with their own race.

I see the graphic at the top
but thats not 1/20
that's 1/25
again I say that number correlates to the fact that only a fraction of blacks are gangbangers.
you still cant argue to toss the baby out with the bath water.
It's funny that you claim to be neutral when

you just posted this
yea why would you want to say eliminate degenerative diseases that attach it self to one subgroup?

If you have a genetic disease and 100% of your population has the genes that propagates it, then its quicker to get someone who does not have those genes among you.
However, if 1/25 of the population has this violent behavior, and they could be replaced anytime but are not replaced, that means that this "disease" is not a genetic dead end, and people with those genes reproduce well.
Mixing that way will not "eliminate a degenerative disease". It would spread their bad genes to your group.

Thats exactly how alleles work.

Argument 2: "The MAOA gene surely explains why much of Blacks are imprisoned"
This second argument is the only one I have heard that actually identifies a specific gene. It is true that Blacks are more likely to carry the MAOA gene that Whites. For the 3R allele, 59% of Black men carry it, while only 34% of White men carry it [2]. Perhaps this is the smoking gun that explains Black crime! Well…not really, 54% of Chinese men carry the 3R allele as well, and they are relatively non-violent. Okay, so it's not the 3R allele. Maybe it's the 2R allele? For this allele, it is true that both Asian and White males are unlikely to carry it compared to Black males. However, it is also extremely unlikely that Black males will carry it. It's estimated that only about about 5.5% of Black males will carry the 2R allele [2].
Let's make a pretty huge assumption for assumption 3: let's assume that every single person with the 2R allele MAOA gene will eventually be incarcerated. Again, I'm giving the genetic position the benefit of the doubt because of a lack of information. Even if we make this huge assumption, then the result is that only 5.5% of Black males will be imprisoned because of the MAOA gene. If genetics is supposed to play this massive role in Black imprisonment, then 5.5% seems pretty underwhelming. Just like with Autism Level, I heavily assumed in favor of the genetic position, and yet the genetic position seems very weak.

[1] Autism Level and Lifetime chances of Imprisonment - Go to 'Economic and social correlates of Autism Level' Table
[2] MOAO Gene distributions by race - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve
[3] Testosterone Levels by race en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monoamine_oxidase_A
[4] Lifetime chances of imprisonment bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/piusp01.pdf

I cant be assed to explain it to you but even with that gene and a 1/25 chance it still doesnt explain shit