Expat

Any Expats here? I'm trying to get the fuck out of the US in about two years, probably headed for Britain. If you could move, where would you go /lefty/?

I hear that a bunch of mutualist-fags have moved up to New Hamshire to make cooperatives, sounds nice IMO

Germany. Quality of life is high, and you'd be at the heart of the EU where left-wing agitation can be hugely influential.

kiss your hentai and privacy goodbye then

Can someone explain to me how mutualism with its labor vouchers is different from capitalism with its currency?

Do you mean emigrant, OP?

digital nomadism in the Balkans or SEA

REEEEEEEEEE how dare you try and divorce yourself from those dirty brown immigrants

Yeah, my bad.

but but what about all the mudslime rape gangs?

Idk. Do they accept latinos?

currency accumulates and is simply a monetary symbol for trade, as well as only having power because of a state. A labour voucher is proof that you did work, and once consumed is destroyed. They can't be traded or accumulated, so no "labour voucher lotteries" or anything of the sort.

Go somewhere with lax gun laws at least

Wouldn't you like to become religious? Think with me, is there any theocracy that's also a fiscal paradise?

I mean, I agree with you, but working for a cooperative >>>> working for any normal capitalist business.

Your best bet is Norway/Sweden if you want actual socialism. You could just lie, and say your Syrian, and speak a fringe dialect of Farsi, incase the want you to communicate your situation in Arabic, Just make shit up as you go, treat it like your in a Mike Myers movie. Walk into the airport, and claim your name is "Abdula Naz'Jir", and your father is a Syrian military commander they called "The Eagle of the desert". Just be loud, and boisterous as possible. Maybe you'll luck out, and some antifa cucks will let you stay rent free in thier apartment, give you an allowance, and even tuck you in at night.

Come on, you could at least put in a bit more effort next time.

out of the frying pan and into the fire
why the fuck would you move to 🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧britain🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧?

They probably have the best chance of surviving whatever shitshow is about to hit Europe and North America.

What? I just said lax gun laws.
Also, if user was to go to the middle east he should join Hezbollah

C'mon, not even the syrian commander thing is consistant with your perception of antifa.

That's like moving into Skid Row, and saying to yourself "heh this place can't get anymore shity, so when it all collapses it'll be fine!"

Where should I move then, user? At leasts the Succdems have a chance at a PM in Britain. I'm just sick and tired of living in America. It's dehumanizing.

First of all, what is it your looking for? Are you wanting to leave for financial reasons? Political reasons? Why?

Protip user
Everywhere in Capitalism is dehumanizing

I just want somewhere peaceful, quiet, and safe. I've also thoroughly lost all hope of America ever getting better, and Britain seems to at least have a chance.


Oh of course, but the amount of Pynchonian experiences I have on a near daily basis is incredible, and I really just can't take it anymore.

Come to New Zealand, it's basically 20 years behind the rest of the world when it comes to attitudes and technology. It's pretty comfy.

There are grades to that though, every time I read about American society and especially working culture and legislation it sounds like some kind of a dystopia compared to a European succdemland. 0 Legally mandated paid holidays? How is that in any way or form acceptable?

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People here are so classcucked that they don't care.

People from the us are even less welcome than africans. Pls stay home you fucking cocksucker. I'm tired of people like you guys using our continet.

How far can $10 get me outside in the US?

Buy something you can kill yourself with

Nigga I can do that for free off my Apartment building.

If you're near the Canadian border, 10$ will buy you a train ticket if you have a passport

I'm just trying to become a professor and live in peace man.

Still what the fuck? We don't want europe to became a new america. Stay home, no offence.

Are you a leaf? Do you know where is the best place to live over there?

Shut the fuck up with your tribalism you dumb fuck, it's not like hundreds of thousands Americans are going to move, just some Anons.

no and no

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I can't say I blame them.

Estonia. Technically europe but its still backwater balkans, literally no one gives a shit about it yet they still have a decent standard of living so it'd be perfect to just live a simple, minimalist lifestyle. Plus estonian would be fucking badass to speak.

Go away roosh

most people here, including (You), didn't still realize that money is not a commodity but an institution

This is why nobody wants to invite you guys over.

India, a strongly developing country with a English-friendly language landscape. Cheap, beautiful, and wonderfully dynamic from the personal perspective

yeah. just ignore the miserable poverty and disgraceful caste system

Australia tbh.

US → Japan here.

I honestly don't know how much longer I stay. The better I get at the language the more alienated I feel. It's fine when you're first learning and you have a whole bunch of friends you can connect to on a very superficial level, but then you get better and better and find they still really have nothing to say. It's really disappointing; if I woke up fluent tomorrow there's still nobody I'd actually want to talk to.

I'm thinking it might be better to try a different Anglo country next. Wondering how easy it is to get employed in Australia/New Zealand.

Norway/Sweden
You're so incredibly wrong.
Been waiting to post this one.

As for the question:
Probably Norway. I live in Denmark and am half Norwegian (my mother is Norwegian). I also go camping and hiking a lot, so their laws regarding acces to land are very attractive to me (Freedom to roam).
Also, the language is easy for me.

Why would you come here?

mutualism doesnt have labor vouchers AFAIK

You can't buy a factory with labour vouchers.

You fucked entire world up, there is no safe haven for you anymore.

kek

An American would be a the top of the pyramid. Go forth and claim your empire of poo.

Rojava tbqfh fam

That's just us anons in here, because we're anti-americans. Normies will love you, they dress with the same clothes you have in USA, enjoy eating McDonald's and absolutely love Game of Thrones. You will fit just fine brah, our culture has been raped by yours.

Am I a bad commie if I unironically entertain myself with GoT, rickmorty and capeshit?

no…even i listen to rock n' roll and i have watched the simpsons. I also own nike clothing and my computer is Dell.

I try to..but it's hard to run away from american garbage

Brits love to trash Americans all the time

The weird thing about America is that it has simultaneously produced some of the best and objectively the worst culture and art known to man. I envy foreigners who get to look at us as an oddity, instead of having schizophrenia be the basis of any sort of cultural identity.

The south is not so miserable, Karnataka, Kerala and Telangana are est-European-tier rich maybe better, also, as an outcast, I do not see what would you need to worry about the caste system.

(not that, as a white single young male american, there would be no possibility to make it into a caste, but why?)

it's called solidarity and empathy

In my opinion, the castes can be idealized by strict paternalists rule system with many similarities to feudalism: on one hand people are overwhelmed by caste rules under the treath of exclusion or isolation, otoh castes offer memners some kind of community protection which goes beyond what can be expected from relatives in a capitalist society and for this reason they are still there; it is a complex topic which touch some delicate religious and family sentiments; it is also a rule of law which is meant to survive millennia under multiple rounds of invasion by populations of foreign Kshaitra.

Even a well organized socialist government, as India is at the federal level, would not get rid of this system with naive easyness. In fact the castes system has been (temporarily) incorpored into law under pression of the communists for the protection of the weakest communities.

How's Edinburgh? Probably gonna apply there for grad school.

Is it expensive? Im planing on getting the fuck out of my country and go to a uni abroad.
Will most likely end up in one of the Nordics, Canada, or UK, but ill go anywhere tbh

Bump

American here, going to sit on my ass watching this country fall to fascism.Hope it works out well for the rest of the world

Yanks FUCK OFF!

I wanna become a literature professor m8

Good: China, Argentina, Ecuador, Chile, Australia, New Zealand

Bad: Europe, North America, Africa, Middle East, SEA, Japan, Korea, India

based on geopolitical trends and the likelihood of you being able to plant a tree, watch it grow to maturity and harvest its fruit, without being displaced by wwiii or poverty

What about Britain?

Literally Europe is just as bad move to the middle east or Africa for better opportunities.

Majority of voters regret Brexit though

I'd love to move to Iceland.

Great internet, cheap energy, the pirate party sounds really radical and has a sixth of the seats in the Althing.

One downside though is that there's a housing crisis in Reykjavik, not sure about the other towns or what country living is like.

Any icelanders care to shed a light on the situation there?

kiwi btw

They still hold protests and it's frankly still shit.

Australia is a boring, backwards mini-America.

The only good prospects on the horizon is that Kim glasses us.

If you were a billionaire would you invest in Britain? A tiny island with no geological strategy no important ports no arable land, no mineral resources, no timber, no beaches, no resorts, a moderately educated populace that demands wasteful shit like healthcare and housing, etc etc.

or would you move to the South Pacific and manage your companies extraction of Africa while your kids go school in Sydney?

Britain was only ever an empire because they managed to control strategic points like the Suez Canal and Horn of Africa while people were still limited to sea travel. The global elite have completely abandoned it. I fully expect Europe to stagnate. France, Germany, Britain will start to look like ex soviet countries as the money flows out and infrastructure starts to degrade. The Scandinavian countries will stagnate with low populations as brain drain draws the most intelligent to asian countries and maybe brazil and india who will be making huge profits eating up everything the US leaves open in the middle east and africa with its decline.

Brazil, India, Phillipines, Indonesia, these places wont be great to live in but along with China are going to be big players in the next century.

Which is why I chose out-lier border buffer countries that have higher human rights and are geographically near growing super powers. Its like trying to pick the next Canada before the US became global hegemon. much better to be the leaders hat than to be the leader when he loses his head

Fair enough points. But it's still a strange idea that the cultural and academic centers of the world will become like the bloc counties.