Work week

why are we sitting around fingering ourselves when it's quite clear there should be a mass movements to reduce the work week to 30, even 20 hours?

Isn't the UK already at 30 hours? probably won't make a difference.

no I don't think so

reducing the working week shares the work around at little to no cost to productivity, thereby redistributing wealth

thereby also reducing precarity

France is like 35 hours or something, and the UK is definitely more. Fucking NHS workers are on 60 hours+

What the fuck gave you that idea?

Yeah, the UK is at 30 hours for most jobs. Only a few are more than that. Some go as low as 20.

Those are called part time jobs.

The netherlands has 0 hours jobs.
They are called low-paying exploitative "flexible" part time jobs.

Burgerland should be fighting for 40 again.

because not going to work at all is the most effective form of protest

most Americans work more than 40 hours

My cool post in another thread:

Global capitalism means global labour market. Global labour market with the nation as the framework for labour regulation means each nation is one in many potential seller of a pool of labour, and the bourgeoisie can pick the best deal. You move towards 30 or 20 without changing the circumstances that make labor globally competitive, you risk becoming the Irrefutable Proof That Good Thing Doesn't Work that adorns every headline of every neoliberal shitrag in the world.

So although we should agitate for that, first (or at least concomitantly) we need to build the means of global labour strategic coordination and cohesion. The grassroots can agitate for shorter working hours, but it won't be enough.

The UK has zero hours too, ignore the students and their hot takes.

I would not talk to that hoe, especially if she has a "SEIZE THE MEANS OF PRODUCTION XDDD ☭☭☭" shows she knows nothing about Socialism other than shitty normalfag memes. I want out of 21st century Mainstream "Socialism" aka Idpol

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She looks British so she's probably from Momentum and doesn't want your fat imperialist jelly rolls anywhere near her.

I weigh 130 pounds lol

I agree. She is probably quite cringe IRL.

I mean the fact that she's bought into socialist-themed consumerism should tell you enough

Must be pretty short then.

But if she's thinking the same about you is it not a net loss for both of you?

lol is that you?

5'10

holy shit hit the gym you fucking giraffe.

Seizing the means of production jokes have become so common I wonder how many make them without knowing what that means

No I just understand that both of you are cringe inducing. But I'd rather take the t shrit girl because she probably has better taste.

ayylmao

This thread is more than a little pathetic, you're all letting your angry virgin side show.

you do realize labor-power requires cooperationto produce value by the very mature of our species right?

*nature

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Hoochie's posting style is really a throwback to web 1.0 when every forum had one female poster who'd try to act like a self-assured successful person in a sea of losers until a few jokes about their weight would drive them into a suicide attempt

Hit home so hard

Most of us live in the U.S. and its reactionary as fuck over here right now. We would get raped…

These things aren't mutually exclusive.

what?…

yes... that still adheres to the definition of status quo, pal

Can you shut the fuck up you dumb motherfucker?

A spook term, huh. Better stop using it.

Why have the concept of a "work week" to begin with? Would the week, as a concept be done away with in a Socialist society?

Cyclical production schedules are useful. It's the same basic reason for 5 year plans.

Bollocks does it. Standard full time is around 40 hours in the UK.

The gov also introduced a bastardised version of the living wage, which was just a rebranding of minimum wage without being close to raising wages to anything considered an actual living wage.

Try 8.40 an hour, 40 hours a week. It's fucking rediculous and barely pays the rent.

We'd do better as a country on a 4 or even 3 day work week. Our economy makes no sense anymore anyway. Shops are open 9-6 but you'll be working during that time anyway. With a 3 day work week there'd be far more people out actually spending money. This is the argument we need to use to win over the capitalists on this one.

Best to just completely ignore their wishes tbh.

How is it possible to do so in a global economy? Wouldn't immediatly most of our jobs be outsorced to other countries?

More in general: how the fuck does one stay ethical while being in the same playground with brutal dictatorships, sweatshops countries and slaveowners?

Nuke all your enemies until nothing but dust remains, then rebuild from the ruins.
There's nothing unethical about a quick death in a nuclear fireball. Only the suffering of a slow death or losing loved ones. After a certain point (roughly half the population being killed) dropping more nukes is more ethical, not less. You'll need a few thousand people to survive in order to rebuild.

Won't work in America. I'm sorry, but it ironically won't work. Americans are too stupid to do anything that benefits them as they don't want to be seen as needing help or being lazy.

Nuke America and then attempt to change the world.

bump to save from Holla Forums raid

You're all dumb, i'd hit it.

i will remind them